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  1. This Posting is Classified as a Ruminion (I coined this word to mean a Rumor/Opinion Hybrid) It is based in part on the News Post by yota691: So... let's do some math... 1 USD = 1166 IQD CBI Fee is 13 IQD per 1 USD for Sale or Transfer So... 13 IQD / 1166 IQD = 0.01115 So the Fee per 1 USD = $0.01115 (1.115 Cents) Or 1.115% per transaction - OK! So when the CBI sells USD or other Reserve Currency it makes 1.115% on each transaction. But - when the rate was 1170 IQD = 1 USD the 13 IQD fee percentage was 1.1111% per transaction. Seems like they gave themselves a raise? Cool... Anyone want to venture a guess as to how many USD they have sold since 2003? The article above says that their average has been 199 Million USD / Day for at least a year That's 5 Days per Week of Auctions, right? So lets examine how this little fee has worked... 199 Million USD x 13 IQD = 2,587,000,000 IQD per Day 5 Days x 2,587,000,000 IQD = 12,935,000,000 IQD per Week 50 Weeks (allowing for Holidays) x 12,935,000,000 IQD = 646,750,000,000 IQD 8 Years (2003-2011) x 646,750,000,000 IQD = 5,174,000,000,000 IQD 5,174,000,000,000 IQD @ 1170 IQD per 1 USD = 4,422,222,222.22 USD (Profit @ Old Rate) 5,174,000,000,000 IQD @ 1166 IQD per 1 USD = 4,437,392,795.88 USD (Profit @ New Rate) So the CBI should have Profited $4,437,392,795.88 USD from their transaction fee AND by just making that little rate change of 4 IQD (0.343%), the CBI increased their NET Reserve Profit by $15,170,573.66 USD Not bad for a day's work - huh? Now if you thought that was cool - Let's look at the BIG NUMBERS - LOL (Understanding that there has been some variance since 2003) Let's say - if 1170 IQD = 1 USD, then For every 199 Million USD Going OUT there was 232.830 Billion IQD coming IN (PER DAY!) 5 Days x 232,830,000,000 IQD = 1,164,150,000,000 IQD per Week 50 Weeks (allowing for Holidays) x 1,164,150,000,000 IQD = 58,207,500,000,000 IQD 8 Years (2003-2011) x 58,207,500,000,000 IQD = 465,660,000,000,000 IQD ...it seems that the CBI should have collected up close to 465.660,000,000,000 IQD ...then add the profit from their transaction fee of 5,174,000,000,000 IQD So - at today's "new" exchange rate of 1166 IQD = 1 USD, the CBI (an Independent Private Central Bank just like the Federal Reserve!) Should have brought in apx 470,834,000,000,000 IQD = 403,802,744,425.39 USD That is 470.834 TRILLION IQD - Off the Street That is $403.803 BILLION USD Equivalent in their coffers <<< ! PRINCIPAL ONLY ! >>> THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY INTEREST THE CBI EARNED BY INVESTING THESE FUNDS! The CBI is not under sanction or Chapter 7 Heck - technically, the People of Iraq are not either... (Just like the stockholders/officers of a company are indemnified and not liable for the company's actions) The Iraq Government IS! The CBI operates under "trust" but remains a PRIVATE CENTRAL BANK - A CONTRACTOR/CARETAKER - if you understand that - CBI has the job to create and hold reserves of money for and on behalf of the Government of Iraq - Then loan it to them - FOR A FEE - In exchange for Government Bonds and Substance (Just like back here at home) - Do you realize that while the United States Government is apparently "Broke" - the Federal Reserve has Quadrillions of Dollars? This whole thing is about sucking the value out of the hands of governments and into the PRIVATE BANKERS so that they can control ALL the Governments of earth. When it comes to pumping wealth, Central Banks make Oil Wells look like Hypodermic Needles taking blood samples (OK - I'll get off that for now - but it helps you understand how the CBI can be incredibly healthy/wealthy even while Iraq is destitute.) Does anyone realize that the CBI has not been the funding source for Iraq's operations... but rather the special UN funds and oil-for-food sales set up to support them have been paying their bills ??? That money didn't even go through the Iraq Treasury or CBI It went through JP Morgan/Chase in NYC under supervision of the IMF/UN! OK - Somebody slap me and tell me to get to the point! LMAO! The CBI has all the reserves it needs to fund an RV! The Government of Iraq, when cleared of its UN imposed commercial obstacles, will be providing a huge value/cash stream into the CBI coffers to sustain it at these high levels of liquidity. If the CBI RVs prior to Iraq being free to fund the CBI, then the CBI would run dry pretty quick. I feel that just based on what we can calculate from observations and disclosures visible out here in the world, the CBI is totally "loaded" and ready to launch an RV go just as soon as they can hook the hose up from Government of Iraq their Input Port. I know I stayed up late to work on this - so I might have made a goof - if so sorry... please check my work - thanks! OK - I think I'm done... Ya' ll can come shoot hole in it now (or maybe help tweak it up so it runs better) GO RV! Best! Greg
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  2. So, as of lately I've been quite jaded with the whole RV investment, but I'm still going to stay strong in my belief that something good will come of it. I've told a few people at work that I had purchased some IQD, and these were coworkers that I trusted. Well... one of them kinda gossipped to another employee about it, but luckily that employee came to me and sparked up a conversation about it. They tried to remain very confidential and started speaking in a low voice in the break room when we got there. Her story is as follows: Her father owns real estate in the Southwest, like a lot of it, and anyway, he invests in different portfolios on the stock market and whatnot, and had also purchased several foreign country currencies, one of them being the Iraqi Dinar. He had done this recently, as of like 2009, not expecting a change for 3 to 5 years, as his sources and stock buddies discussed. Well, he got a substantial amount, somewhere in the range of 30,000 dollars worth of IQD. That may not seem like a lot, but $30 million is a lot when it revalues 1 to 1, so I figured that was a good faith purchase in this investment, as mine was very small in comparison. Anyway, basically this girl's dad heard from one of his stock market buddies that trades currencies and commodities here in the US and in Dubai, Baghdad, and a few other places... that they expect a huge swing on currency values and commodities both i the next few weeks to months, between now and or about a week from now and until around May or June. Oil is very likely one of those, as well as the IQD, Iran's currency, perhaps even Kuwait may undergo a slight change in exchange rate, probably down slightly to allow the IQD to edge up above it without overextending the CBI? maybe? That's just my speculation on that specific part of it, but the actual expected changes are coming straight from people. I have always posted joke predictions in the past, but this one struck home with an employee that I know fairly well at work talking to me about this. She didn't buy any herself, but she will get a portion of what her dad makes on the exchange. Kinda pepped me up in this rat race to get rich overnight. Started to get me excited again. My joke 21/02/2012 date and $1.17 rate may actually prove to be somewhat accurate according to that information, lol... we'll see what happens. Just though I'd share. Bash away if you don't believe me or think that I'm just feeding some flames. I dun curr.
    30 points
  3. http://www.ninanews....glish/index.asp http://www.ninanews.com/english/News_Details.asp?ar95_VQ=FKEEGJ
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  4. Randy Koonce Conference Call – 2-9-12 [Disclaimer: This transcription is not without error, typos, or misspelled words. Listen to the replay for an accurate account - TBA] RANDY: I want to give you everything in the first 5 minutes then open it up to Q & A. I hope everyone realizes it didn’t RV here or in another country. I don’t know how many phone calls and e-mails who said there was an in-country RV…guys, they can’t do it that way. Even the countries that have sanctions don’t do that. They can’t buy any more with it so please try not to fall for that! And don’t fall for the banks waiting for the numbers to drop in….the reason…USE YOUR HEAD…it’s not happening…go check CBI, it’ll change that first. We’ve been hearing this from the same guys for 6-8 – 10 months. Kinda back up and breathe. The last few times I sent an email out and then I had to discuss this and we just don’t have to …no reason to get everyone to watch the news and know what’s going on. National Conference…don’t have confirmation on that confirmation yet, I would have loved to find out the exact day – the newspaper said they changed the name…it’s the National Meeting now. So, with all the meetings they’ve been having, they just changed the name. We believe is an important meeting…basically our opinions and shortly after that we’ll see the ministers show up. There’s not going to be an RV until the ministers show up first. That’s a requirement for Shabibi and he’s been pretty adamant about that…he wants a complete government…the last the most important…security is controls. Question: What’s going to force them to do it? Nothing except the US…if you listened to McCain, Clinton, Obama….saying Iraq has to get their stuff together – we’re not going to wait much longer and we want you to finish this up with all the issues it’s causing in the middle east. Q: How long can this go? -- I think it has to be done at the Arab Summit…can’t do it there because they need money. Q: Budget? Can’t open the budget (2011) until it RV’s…they’ve opened it up in June…I still see them open the 2011-12 at the Arab Summit. The 2012 budget will be additional money to complete and finish it up. Everything is to reveal Iraq. Oil companies getting excited….if you don’t finish up, we’re getting out. You’re not paying us enough money to be hear…getting blown up. Arab Summit is at the end of March which means they have to have enough time bringing funds in before the AS….they’re not going to cancel it like they did yesterday because they didn’t have the RV…that’s a good indicator for how far it will go out…don’t think it’ll go past the AS at the end of March unless they postpone it. So I believe beginning of March to the 10th to be able to handle anybody. People aren’t going to luxurious Baghdad to have a vacation and they’re not putting major dignataries in an area to blow them up unless the people are happy – the army’s paid….have you noticed Maliki has basically bernt over saying that whatever you want me to do, I will. If you notice, Talabani is running this thing, not Maliki…that’s what we need to look at. If Maliki is going to be a dictator, Talabani wouldn’t be doing what he’s doing. There is NO RV IN-COUNTRY…I have no clue why these guys are saying that…it’s not right. Another thing…3-LETTER AGENCIES….that’s as good as winning a Nigerian lottery. You’re going to have to hear a bunch of stuff…because it’s been said over and over again….it doesn’t happen….flashes and it’s coming in…that’s most likely not the case. Q: Who actually pulls bigger? Shabibi…why hasn’t he? Because they’re hurting for money – he’s put the criteria and when M. tried to get a hold of the bank, they said, it’s not under your control. So, S. has the ultimate control…he doesn’t even know when because there’s no ministers. They said the meeting will start Sunday – the paper said it’s about Erbil….seems like Sunday during the last few days of coalition..once this thing is over, they’ll announce the ministers and it’s over. You can go to CBI and it will change….this talk about the new website…even if they did, you would be directed to the new one so don’t worry about that. Cashing in? Every major bank that deals with it is going to cash in. Taxes? 15% -- it’s an investment. The argument is it’s long or short term…There’s no receipts except from the brokers…but if you gave it to someone, there’s no receipt and that’s why it’s all long-term. It’s best to go in groups…it’s harder to pull the wool over a few people. Would I stay with the bigger banks, yes…if you want to leave the money…I won’t! If they’re just saying we can’t let you take all of it is different than them verifying the money – like 24 hours to give you credit. I need everyone to back up and breathe…and not worry. The reason…every time you hear the RV word, they think it’s RV’d. Did you not know there were 5 confirmations that there was an internal RV and it wasn’t true! It’s going to change on the CBI first….just know everything’s going to be okay. Q & A: Q: An article about a black out regarding a news media black out and news article…hear anything about that? A: The way you check that is to go to AK News…it depends what it’s about to have a blackout about. CBI Auction results…remember back around 9-10 months ago with Gene who was a currency trader…he said he didn’t think the dinar would be traded anyway, but 2-3 days ago the CBI finally said not auctioning off USDollars…they were auctioning off the dollars off the street. When the dollar is low, it constrains their currency and they need to release their new denom’s. That’s a very good sign. Q: You said the National Mtg could be held on Sunday and it would take 4 days, so everything we hoped with ministers and GOI is the 16th, right? A: Right! I don’t know this for a fact when they’ll announce, but I feel it would be 1-2 days of the National Conference. Q: Discussing the budget, seating, GOI or anymore? A: That’s it. Q: So we could see it and not be concerned about the Arab Summit? A: If everything goes like we feel it’s going to go, yes….I would be the richest man if I knew. After the conference, they announce, and we’re on within hours the CBI should change. Q: So we don’t have to worry about the Arab Summit. A: They will probably have to cancel it – they need money and the only way to have a summit is to have it RV to have money. You’re looking the 1st 10 days in March….I’m trying to tell you what to look for. 4 days ago they said they’re not moving the AS which means they’ll have the money. If they say they will have to move it, we know we have to wait a few more days. If the National Meeting starts on Sunday, next week is a very good week for us. Q: What about Parliament? A: No…they’re done…the only thing has to be made is the announcement...don’t have a clue who, and I really don’t’ care. I’m assuming it’s Talabani, Maliki, or Shabibi….I’m going to say T. who’s taken the bull by the horns so I’m going to say it will be him. They‘ll all want to take credit for it. Q: 2-4 days? More than the GOI – what about the HCL? Can’t see it taking that long. A: It took them this last week Sat and Sun and changed the name from Nat’l Conference to Nat’l Meeting…so you want to ask me that question…I don’t have a clue…it may be done in 2 days or 1 day…I don’t know that for a fact. We feel it will take that long…and the paper said it would take 3 days. I just want it to start….once it starts, I believe everyone can start counting…the conference is that thing saying we’re coming to the end of this ride. It’s pretty foremost on everybody’s mind…this is the meeting – I just want it over and I don’t care what they talk about. Q: An article on the dinar today was disturbing to me…I’ve blown out of the water of the 10 cents theory. A: There’s no argument with the budget – 10 cents won’t even give them the dinar for their annual budget in US dollars…the total revenue for Iraq is 26 billion dollars…they want to come out with 89.1 billion dollars (not dinar)…if they say we want our currency to be worth 10cents…that’s only 2.6 billion dinar….they don’t meet the budget. 1:1 – they’re still short….they’re 3 x short. The easiest way to see this – divide 26 billion into 89.1 = rate…that’s what they have to come out with! Have to! Are they going to charge us 25% from the CBI? A: NO! The CBI rate is what you’re going to get almost everybody because everyone’s going to be vying for your money and that’s why you want to cash in quickly – otherwise there’s a spread and the very beginning you ought to go to any major banks and get CBI rates. Q: I know you said the Exxon and ….were really putting a lot of Iraq, beside them and some of the obvious, is there any other reason they must do this other than they’re running low on money…can they keep postponing it? A: Can they? Sure…but keep in mind eventually they can’t pay the military and haven’t paid their government either and you have a total meltdown…the only one in the way is Maliki. If you look at him in the last few days…he’s saying whatever you want, I’m in. The only reason he’d say that is because they got him by the short hair…saying if you do this, you’re gone and in jail. See the paper…you don’t see him screaming anymore about the Strategic Council being unconstitutional….if that’s not bending over saying I’m done, I don’t know what is. Just get these guys together and announce the ministers…that’s all that’s left. The biggest pressure is they want to be the biggest and strongest currency – Iraq is going to be the biggest player and they have toilet paper for currency. Other than Exxon and those guys, they’re gone. They can’t afford for them to leave…these countries can’t go to Russia and China….they have to buy…..? They want money more than that. It’s all about money. Follow the money and when oil companies stand up and say we’re out of here, Maliki knows it too. Q: You’ve always said the rate would be between 3.41 or more? Any chance it would be more? A: 3.41 – that’s it. A managed float – they let it float to 1166 and that’s a good rate. They’ll let it float to where they want to float. Q: Are you still considering doing a bank? A: Yes, I am. When we go down to Austin, we’ll have one day to talk about it and everyone who needs to be a part of it, fine. I think we need to know about the Fed. Reserve and have a Christian bank. Q: We keep hearing the world needs this dinar to re-boot the world system…is that a concern? A: I’ll say this…for the most part, are people going to use this to re-boot the system? They might. The Paris Debt – they use the currency and they pay their debts when it goes up 3-4,000 x which would be no problem to do. All the countries that have it is money out of thin air that’s costing Iraq zero dollars…and those who started this is sharp to create money out of thin air. Other countries will do the same….I don’t believe in large global settlements. I have a contact in the government out of Dallas and not that they don’t have a clue, it’s not in their budget to be well-to-do. I don’t think that’s a major issue. Condeleza Rice said many countries will RV their currency – Vietnam, Saudi Arabia….but they don’t have to be the same time…I don’t believe the other boards are correct to say this. Q: This is for IQD, for Iraq, things they need to get done and the rest of the countries may benefit. A: I have enough connections to know that’s the truth – do people know this will be a world-wide event, yes. Is it the savior of the world, no. Q: I was in a chat room with serious bankers and was told this is key as a part of equity of world settlement and the IMF had the ability to force the RV. A: I know a lot of bankers too and none of them say that…most of the time they laugh when people say that. IMF sets the price of your eggs…if you say I want it to be $3…they say okay –they don’t force anything. Q: They said there is a team of players involved that amounts 2 prices – one to us and one for the 15% crowd of Obama’s, Bush’s, and China who have muscled their way into this. A: There’s only one currency …there’s 3 D’s that they can set the price through the treat for the prices of the dinar…there’s not going to be multiple layers of what the dinar’s going to bring…it’s what’s negotiated based upon buying and selling oil within the treaty . It’s either the country itself or the people and the buy/sell rate won’t be an issue …after that it will come into play. Q: Do you know the rates they’ll charge? A: CBI rates…leave over a million dollars in the bank which is no big deal for most of us…the fees will come into play about 6 months out because you won’t have many people striving for your money. Q: Can the banks pull taxes out? A: No…only the lottery because it’s a state tax or fund...this isn’t coming from the state. Q: What’s the tax? A: My guy says it’s 15% -- because you don’t track a $100 bill there’s no receipt and because of that they don’t track time and there’s no tracking. Q: 1,000 Toyota’s and Mobile shut down causing pressures/ A: I don’t know about the cars, but Exxon is shutting down if Iraq doesn’t pay them. The biggest thing about the Arab Summit is to show these guys they’re big enough… they’re arrogant enough. Exxon would have to pack up to show them but they think they need them. I don’t think they’ll have an Arab Summit if they don’t get this going. Next week ought to be a very hot week for us…this conference ha got to start…it’s all a matter of timing as to how fast they get out. Q: If we have money in a bank in Iraq and they RV, let’s say $1,000 dollars…would they move the decimal point to the right? A: Why would they have to? Q: If I build a house, I’d have to pay them back? A: How much is 50 dinar going to be after the RV….it doesn’t change. Maybe the thing isn’t worth 50,000 dollars anymore….but they all know that and the USD amount is high now. They’ll just change it pretty close to the dinar. The dinar is the dinar for them and they actually trade dinars. All these articles with the banking laws are two years old…they just change the date. Q: Once this changes, pull your money out because things could fall apart in Iraq. A: Nothing will happen in Iraq that fast…they’re not letting that currency move except up. Not letting it come down. Q: Is there a bank giving out CBI rates? A: The major banks will do the same…go to the private banking areas and if you go with a group, they’ll all work with you as long as you leave $1 million for the first 90 days – after that, $3-4 million. They can make money in their bank, but the further it goes out, you may have to leave more money in there because the fees will go up. It’s not going to take you long…talk to a tax attorney who knows this stuff and you should be done. Don’t make a move until you talk to a tax attorney – CPA. Q: Re: Strategic Framework? A: It was supposed to be done in March. Q: Re: Contractors from other countries – article said Korean companies are signing to do power plants. We know they have the artificial program rate…but offering contractors a rate…Is this the future rate of the RV? A: It’s probably true, but again, they can’t do that unless they have an RV because they don’t have the money. Even though they signed contracts, they can’t pay for them but some time they have to put up some money. Q: I was listening to Phoenix…I guess the Iraqi news said the World bank was trying to establish a window rate, one rate, then offer the contractors another rate to do what they had to do before the RV. Could you share some light on it? A: You can’t shed any light with a contractor because it’s done based individually with treaties of their country on the dinar and that has to be used on some of it, especially with oil….the US gets something different than the CBI rate. It depends on what treaties they signed – each country has a treaty with another country – they’re all different and would be based upon that. There’s no way to tell unless you read the treaty which won’t be available and they’re 20 years old…then the old one becomes history – no longer valid and so on. Q: So it’s classified info among the countries? A: Yes, exactly – when you’re doing import and export…they have what they call a trade deficit, leveling with a tax or no tax…each one can be different. There’s no use chasing that though either. Q: Can the lower denom’s have more value in the future? Better to keep the 1,000 down? A: It won’t matter …lower denom’s won’t bring in anything different. Q: Do you believe US banks are ready when this happens? A: Yep! Q: If it comes out at 3.41 and a managed float…will it be 90 days managed float at 2% A: Yes and I know it will come out at 3.41 – Shabibi was pretty adamant about the managed floatl. Q: Smart Cards? A: They have multiple purposes to use as an ATM…before they were using them by going to the vendor and give $100 worth of food, not like ours as an exchange. They don’t have that access…as far as infrastructure, it’s in terrible shape but not until the RV comes out. The government had Smart Cards and you just go to the vendor but the government went haywired….Now they’re trying to bring it out again because theyr’e going to have money again which should be in the next few weeks. Q: Do you believe the ministers have been picked and working, just not announced? And, the HCL will be announced at the same time? A: You have to have a Strategic Council – power sharing of Maliki, Shabibi, and ??? - -that will happen prior to the RV…I’ll just leave it like that, but it’ll be close. Q: You don’t think the Erbil will? A: What is the Erbil? It’s 18 points that the Strategic Council agreed upon and that’s what has to be implemented to announce the ministers…2 things on Erbil left…it’s an agreement, not a contract. The SC is a contract which the Kurds wanted Maliki to agree to. Q: Are the ministers working and have a working GOI? A: The guys are working, picked guys going in behind them, all there, but not announced….The actual function is going on and it’s working as a whole government. The security minister can’t do anything until put into place and announced, and they can change that…they could change the actual person in there. Until they announce the guy there, it’ll be up in the air and that’s what the conference is about…Maliki has been the contentious one…I don’t like that guy, I don’t like that guy….now, it’s whatever you want me to do. Q: A while back you talked about an opinion letter from the IRS…still think it’s going to be necessary? A: Yes, because this is a once in a lifetime event and I want to make sure I have my ducks in a row…I want to make sure I don’t have to look over my shoulder with the IRS to say I did it wrong and fight that battle. I think the letter will cost about $1,000 and it’s money well spent. I just want to be prudent with the money I got. Q: Should we contact the IRS individually? A: If enough people request it, it will be posted – I’ll post the letter and send it out on the email list. Q: I heard this from my contact—the GOI is done but not announced. A: Right Q: The announcement will probably be at the conference, right? A: After the conference. Q: Ministers are picked A: Exactly right. Q: I heard the IMF and Parliament gave Iraq recently – was very unhappy and pissed off with Obama because he’s trying to stop it and Iraq to present the RV….I was told that the IMF has been given the power by the G-20 that they will RI and then RV right after and make sure they can throw everyone in Iraq against the wall to make sure this. I was told this by very good sources and truly believe the IMF can…Iraq has taken forever, but that time is out right now…the world and everybody can’t afford that and Obama has cost countries millions of dollars – I have many scenarios. Contacts are at the IMF said they will act, if necessary – even if an RI but it won’t stand at that rate. I don’t want to say what I’ve heard on the rate because I think it has to be higher simply because the prices around us…..I used to believe it, but not with what’s going on here. There’s been downgraded countries, like Germany, so there’s so many moving parts and I don’t want to bring up Soros…have you heard that? A: I get what’s going on and I promise you IMF is not going to do anything…I know that. The source of the rate –is Soros going to make money, yes, a killing and he’s probably one of the ones with the Fed. Reserve….One issue about the government…it’s the “have’s and have nots”…if you’re into something they really don’t want you in it and will do anything to get you out of it. I know Senators and they know about it and they let the scam issues go on because they don’t’ want you to have it. Obama has to pump anything he can to be re-elected and at the same time, keep it under his thumb with the millionaires to pay – for those over a million – he wants to have a 30% tax rate, it wouldn’t be a capital gains, it would be on everything you made…but hey, it’s not me. I’m not so worried about that stuff, but the IMF three years ago was going to make this happen…. Q: I’ve heard it for 3 years, but Hillarious went over there and gave Parliament, Shabibi and everyone else …she had to go there and threatened them to go back to the table to do what they were supposed to do…they’ve come so far as we know within their government, and I understand it’s done, but not announced. A: I agree with the GOI basically done, but what they’ve been bickering over is done purposely over the 3 spots of ministers…and Obama backed out or asked them not to RV multiple times and then let it ride when the ministry squabbles were going on. Q: I can’t even get into it because it would blow everyone out of the water. A: I knkow a lot too, but I thought he was terrible him in the beginning, but I wouldn’t want him around my kids. Q: China has been on his back as well. A: I do know the countries have been on their backs…this is about over and I don know that the US knows it…we were given a dead date, and I’m not telling anybody that date…but just keep in mind the Arab Summit and I think we’re about out of this thing.. The IMF is the US and the only time they can stand up to do something – if anyone can do it, it has to be the US….like the U N….the US makes what’s going to take place. Q: I know the UN was going to put sanctions on them…5 billion a day if they didn’t get this done… …I guess they thought they were close enough. A: They’ve been kinda given when this has to be over…I do know that if you don’t see anything about the Arab Summit, we’re probably out of it. Q: So you give full credence for the meeting coming up on Sunday? A: They said 4 days…at the end of that we should have an announcement…does that say anything? Who knows….the resolution at the end is what we’re looking for and it’s looking very good. Q: I know we’re about done, that’s not the thing, but are we looking at the ministers coming out of this? A: It’ll be after the meeting.. Q: Then, no announcement before the conference or RV? A: You’re right…no ministers =no RV. Up to the time they announce they can change. I think we’re done with that. Q: Maliki will be gone after this RV…that’s what I heard. A: He basically is a non-factor because he’ll only have 1/3 of the power and that’s why he fought so hard and he probably finally figured out he’ll be put in jail….that’s why we’re where we are coming to the end and keep in mind when you see the ministers you’ll see the RV. Q: The Kurds have a thing in this…they threatened.. A: I think the Kurds have Maliki by the short-hair. Q: I have been told he will be replaced after the RV. A: I think Maliki is losing…I can’t go into it either, but we ought to be able to follow certain events and after this conference we should see the ministers. Q: I’m telling you what I’m hearing and it could possibly happen by tomorrow. A: NO…I know it for a fact - don’t worry about the ships are at sea and you will see an RV…It will be hours after the ministers are announced. Q: Do we have any reason why they’re having this meeting and pushing it off? A: All I know is we believe it’s this week…once it starts, I don’t’ care, we’re on the road and we can start doing some counting…until it starts, they have some legal room. Q: They have no time at all, in trouble big time. A: What are they going to do to them…hey, listen, all these countries need this to take placel….they can’t force Iraq to do anything because they’re a sovereign country. Our government is a mess and they’re not going to make anything happen. Q: I agree…our government can’t do crap. A: I do know it’s basically done…but until we actually see it, we have to breathe…. Moderator, Mr. Edwards, spoke about self-government online service used for this conference, he’s shared a tool called state-wide communications that puts people on a choker collar. It enables you and then empowers you to have the kind of society you want to have and the government you want. Let’s talk about millionaires….or multi-millionaires. When that happens, you’ll do different things with your money. I desperately encourage you to consider…go to: www.AmericansResotringAmerica.com This is the umbrella website under which there are 30 websites (with freedomsradio.com) without cost and begin networking with fellow Americans according to a topic or issue they have passion about – no need to agree or disagree, just to discuss with others. We have a Finish communications for you to quit complaining about what’s going on and doing something about it…..gives an example…600,000 people – if 1% = 6,000 people in one county, and ½ goes to a county meeting, what affect would they have? With this software it should easily land up being 100,000 …this is a tool more powerful than the 2nd Amendment….Contact me and work with me financially to take this across the nations to make Americans Restoring America a reality. Of 75 cases, we’ve won 75 cases…we can’t guarantee but we have the confidence in the world…we walk in with a cash bond and it’s prohibitably expensive. I’m looking for 100 people x $1 million share totally built like the banking industry – it’s a bond company. The attorney walks in the court – Your honor we’re here not to argue with the bank, we’re there to pay the debt and prove who owns the debt. 100% of the time in the hundreds and thousands of times we’ve looked the party who claims to force a foreclosure has never been the owner of that note. This is a commercial, not supported by anyone on this call. Randy: We always had an issue to bridge upon bridge, so we thought this would help to get a few more people on and Mike has been gracious enough to use his service. We don’t advocate anything he’s doing but to have an opinion. Q: If we do have to keep $1 million in one of the 4 major banks, I guess my worry economically if the banks went under. A: you can insure it many ways even if the banks don’t. I know Wells will issue money up to $450 million, but you can insure your money for any number above that. Even if the bank goes down, you don’t use your money. Just make sure you secure your money – don’t worry one iota about investments and don’t go crazy to invest in all the businesses you were going to do to make $1 million –Just breathe and get used to having the money and wait a few months. You’ll be talking to Private Bankers….they have all that set up and tell you who they use and most will be major insurance companies in case the banks go under. Q: I thought on Sunday they were having another preparatory meeting scheduled, without a date or place, but at the end of this month… A: One said that and another said Sunday – I wish I knew the exact date, but I don’t know that. I don’t think it’s been set quite yet, even though it’s in the paper for Sunday. Q: Kurdistan wasn’t sure they would accomplish what they wanted to? A: The Kurds have other issues…they’re in a little different deal…trying to get themselves broken off and they probably won’t get that take care of at this meeting. Q: They want to break off the autonomous …they would affect the RV, right? A: No. Q: A group of people from our church met with a financial planner, he said he wouldn’t need to cash in unless it’s registered? A: What would be registered? Q: The US government was trying to put in laws that it had to be registered? A: Does that make sense? Would it make sense to cash in the British Pound…It’s a currency, and once it goes live, it’s a currency – it’s not a bomb! My goodness…it’s like this is some super secret intel …it’s a currency but the government has done such a good job as a scan issue…they’re going to track that currency but it won’t matter to them and you’ll be okay. Q: No one has addressed the Israel conflict? A: Reason: It won’t affect the RV….if Iraq melts down, it won’t affect them—it doesn’t matter, they were promised this by the US and they’ll get it. Q: So, if Iran hits them, we still have an RV? A: Right… Q: Re: Obama…is that in your opinion the only reason it’s getting held up by our government. A: It’s a double-edge sword for Obama…he garnishes votes by telling you how much money he’s going to give you with the tax brakes…and then he tells how much he’s giving out with government ??? Have you watched Hardcore Pawn Shop? One of the things I want to bring out is the attitudes some people have…they had them a watch and say it’s worth $500…the guy said it’s only worth $50 and that’s all I’m going to give you. The guy says I want $500 – in their shop and they go out screaming. What is the government supposed to give us? THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS…and I just want my money…and that’s why the hold up. He needs it for the economy to change with economy and unemployment, but it’s better for him to give money to. Q: The country of sheep breeds a government of wolves. A: Agreed. Q: Meeting on Sunday? A: Not sure as a fact…whenever it starts is what we’re looking for. Media’s not been given the time. I think they know they have to put up or shut up – Iraq’s a little petrified and they have to be pushed out of the boat…they don’t know what it means to be subservient to the US and the US needs to step up and say it’s over. Q: Seems like the RV would stop so many problems there… A: Exactly – the money’s coming out so it won’t matter…don’t worry about it. Q: Forgive me if this sounds like a conspiracy theory,….what about the US dollar going down? A: That’s another reason why I want to have a bank…no it’s not coming like that. People are basing this off things that aren’t right…they’re talking about End Time scenarios and they’re not right that Babylon will become a great nation. How long is that going to take? 10-15 years? It’s going to take 5-6 years for the infrastructure to be built up. I think our timeline’s off….Do I think it will devalue, yeah…but not for 20 years. It would have to be some supernatural event to make Baghdad a great nation. It’s going to have to grow there. They’ll try to build the Tower of Babel….a tourist attraction and gardens…that will take some time. In your wildest imagination, do you think of travelling to Baghdad for an attraction? LOL Let’s be practical….do I see it coming? Yes, the money and democracy is a start. Is it prophesied, yes, but I just don’t see it happening this year. Q: What’s your take on the IRS form 8938? A: It doesn’t matter to you right now…only next year or when you cash in—it’s to track and it’s been out for two years, so why worry about it now? Try not to jump too quick with all the things on the internet….it’ll all work out in the wash…I know it’s sometimes tough to get through what you have to do and who’s cashing in, or they’re not going to let you do it because it’s not worth anything…or it’s going to be worth a penny…relax because those things don’t have any credibility. Stopped at 2 hours -- call continues.
    9 points
  5. In 1991 - 1993 I studied Alternative Medicine and Biological Nutrition on my own. I became very sick. Conventional Medicine could not tell what the heck was wrong with me so I started doing some research on my own, devouring anything I could on Alternative methods for health and wellness. The stuff that was written about cures for things like the common flu (no conventional cure-you just have to "ride it out") to cancer, lupus, leukemia, brain tumors, etc was amazing! That's why when I find stuff like this on the Internet-it is not hard at all to believe. Dr. Tullio Simoncini is a specialist in Oncology. Please read what he has to say. He is also on Youtube. CANCER IS A FUNGUS ... ... AND IT IS CURABLE By xxx The figures are fantastic. Some eight million people die every year from cancer worldwide, more than half a million in the United States alone. The global number is predicted to rise to twelve million by 2030. Cancer is the biggest cause of death for people under 85 and in the US one in four people die from cancer - one in four. We have our freedoms removed by the day to 'protect the public from terrorism' when all these people are suffering and dying every year from a disease that the bloodline families and their pharmaceutical cartel systematically refuse to cure. Together we can, yes, but not if the drug companies are involved. Immense amounts of money are raised through charities every year to fund the search for a 'cure' that the establishment has no intention of finding. I highlighted in a newsletter on August 9th how a man called Dr Richard Day, the head of the Rockefeller-controlled eugenics organisation, Planned Parenthood, had addressed a meeting of doctors in Pittsburgh in 1969 about the coming transformation of global society. He asked the doctors to turn off recording equipment and not to take notes before he detailed a long list of changes that were planned. One doctor did take notes, however, and later talked publicly about what was said. Now, 40 years later, we can see how extraordinarily accurate Day was and you can read that August newsletter in the archive on the website. The reason I mention him again here is that he told those doctors in 1969: 'We can cure almost every cancer right now. Information is on file in the Rockefeller Institute, if it's ever decided that it should be released.' Day said that letting people die of cancer would slow down population growth - 'You may as well die of cancer as something else'. These people no soul and that's why they do what they do. Big Pharma has no desire to cure cancer when it is making vast fortunes from treating the symptoms with devastating drugs and cell-killing, people-killing poisons like chemotherapy. But it is not primarily even about money. The bloodline families want people to suffer and die earlier than necessary as a way of culling the population. This is why when anyone outside the Big Pharma cabal discovers an effective way of treating cancer they are immediately targeted by the medical establishment and government agencies. One such case is the Italian doctor, Tullio Simoncini, a brilliant and courageous man who has refused to bow to the enormous pressure he has faced, and continues to face, after he realised what cancer is and how it can be dealt with. Simoncini's 'crime' has been to discover that cancer is a fungus caused by Candida, a yeast-like organism that lives in the body in small amounts even in healthy people. The immune system keeps it under control normally, but when the Candida morphs into a powerful fungus some serious health problems can follow - including cancer. My friend, Mike Lambert, at the Shen Clinic near my home on the Isle of Wight, says of Candida: 'Fungus, and Candida in particular, thrive by eating the body of its host (yours) by dissolving it. It also needs your body to breed, as it can't do this on its own. No wonder in Chronic Fatigue conditions, which can in many cases be attributed to Candida colonisation, the sufferer feels so bad both physically and psychologically.' Tullio Simoncini says that cancer is this Candida fungal infection and that the conventional medical explanation of cancer as a cellular malfunction is plain wrong. Candida Simoncini is a specialist in oncology (treatment of tumors), diabetes and metabolic disorders, but he is more than that. He is a real doctor who seeks to uncover the truth for the benefit of his patients and refuses to parrot the official version of what doctors should do and think. He challenges the dogma of 'intellectual conformity' with all its unproven assumptions, lies, manipulation and falsehoods and he has been extremely critical of the medical establishment as it continues to pursue 'treatments' that are useless in curing the global epidemic of cancer. From the time he entered medicine he realised that something was seriously wrong with the way cancer was treated: 'I see terrible sufferings. I was in a paediatric oncological ward - all the children died. I was suffering when I was looking at the poor, poor children dying with chemo, with radiation.' His frustration and sorrow at what he was seeing led him to go in search of new ways to understand, and therefore treat, this devastating disease. He began his journey with an open mind and a blank sheet of paper unsullied by any rigid assumptions pedalled and indoctrinated by mainstream 'medicine' and 'science'. How many more have to suffer before people stop seeing doctors as all-knowing 'gods' and realise the stupendous scale of ignorance involved? Simoncini realised that all cancers acted the same way no matter where they were in the body or what form they took. There had to be a common denominator. He also observed that the cancer 'lumps' were always white. What else is white? Candida. Simoncini realised that what mainstream medicine believed to be cell growth going wild - 'cancerous growth' - is actually the immune system producing cells to defend the body from Candida attack. He says the sequence goes like this: Candida is normally kept under control by the immune system, but when that becomes undermined and weakened the Candida can expand and build a 'colony'. The Candida eventually penetrates an organ and the immune system has to respond to the threat in another way. This 'way' is to build a defensive barrier with its own cells and this growth is what we call cancer. It is said that the spreading of cancer to other parts of the body is caused by 'malignant' cells escaping from their origin. Simoncini, however, says this is not the case at all. The spread of cancer is triggered by the real cause of cancer, the Candia fungus, escaping from the original source. What allows cancer to manifest, as I have been saying in my books for years, is a weakened immune system. When that is working efficiently it deals with the problem before it gets out of hand. In this case, it keeps the Candida under control. But look at what has been happening as cancer numbers worldwide have soared and soared. There has been a calculated war on the human immune system that has got more vociferous with every decade. The immune system is weakened and attacked by food and drink additives, chemical farming, vaccinations, electromagnetic and microwave technology and frequencies, pharmaceutical drugs, the stress of modern 'life', and so much more. What defences are today's children going to have when they are given 25 vaccinations and combinations of them, before the age of two - while their immune system is still forming for goodness sake? This is how the Illuminati families are seeking to instigate a mass cull of the population. By dismantling the body's natural defence to disease. Now, here's the real shocker. What destroys the immune system quicker than anything else? CHEMOTHERAPY You can add radiation to that as well. Chemotherapy is a poison designed to kill cells. Er, that's it. The 'cutting-edge' of mainstream cancer 'treatment' is to poison the victim and hope that you kill the cancer cells before you have killed enough healthy cells to kill the patient. But wait. This chemotherapy poison also kills the cells of the immune system and leaves it shot to pieces. And the Candida is still there. This devastated immune system cannot respond effectively to the Candida and it takes over other parts of the body to start the process again, so causing the cancer to spread. Even those who appear to have recovered after surgery and chemotherapy and been given 'the all-clear' are just a ticking clock. Their immune system is now shattered and it is only a matter of time before the Candida triggers a relapse. In other words: Chemotherapy is killing the people it is supposed to be curing. Of course, it can never 'cure' anyone of anything, except life. It is a poison destroying the very system that we need to be healthy and strong if we are to be cured. When Simoncini realised that cancer is a fungal infection, or infestation, he went in search of something that would kill the fungus and so remove the cancer. He realised that anti-fungal drugs don't work because the fungus quickly mutates to defend itself and then even starts to feed off the drugs that are prescribed to kill it. Instead, Simoncini found something much, much simpler - sodium bicarbonate. Yes, the main ingredient in good old baking soda (but I stress not the same as baking soda, which has other ingredients). He used this because it is a powerful destroyer of fungus and, unlike the drugs, the Candida cannot 'adapt' to it. The patient is given sodium bicarbonate orally and through internal means like an endoscope, a long thin tube that doctors use to see inside the body without surgery. This allows the sodium bicarbonate to be placed directly on the cancer - the fungus. The ancient Egyptians knew about the healing properties of anti-fungal substances and Indian books going back a thousand years actually recommend 'alkaline of strong potency' for treating cancer. In 1983, Simoncini treated an Italian man, Gennaro Sangermano, who had been given months to live with lung cancer. A few months later he wasn't dead, he was back to health and the cancer was gone. More success followed and Simoncini presented his findings to the Italian Department of Health in the hope that they would begin scientifically-approved trials to show that it worked. But he was to learn the true scale of medical manipulation and deceit. The authorities not only ignored his documentation, he was disbarred from the Italian Medical Order for prescribing cures that had not been approved. Yep, I really said that - for prescribing cures that had not been approved. He was subjected to a vicious campaign of ridicule and condemnation by the pathetic media and then jailed for three years for causing 'wrongful death' to patients he had treated. From all angles the word was out - get Simoncini. The medical establishment said that his claims about sodium bicarbonate were 'crazy' and 'dangerous'. One 'leading doctor' even ludicrously referred to sodium bicarbonate as a 'drug'. All the time millions of people were dying from cancers that could have been treated effectively. These people don't give a ****. Tullio Simoncini is, thankfully, no quitter and he has continued to circulate his work on the Internet and in public talks. I heard of him through Mike Lambert at the Shen Clinic and Simoncini spoke there while I was away in the United States. I know that he is having remarkable success in dramatically reducing and removing altogether even some real late stage cancers using sodium bicarbonate. This can take months in some cases, but in others, like breast cancer where the tumour is easily accessible, it can be days before it is no more. People are also curing themselves under Simoncini's guidance and at the end of this article I have linked to some videos in which you can hear people talk about their experiences and cures. I wrote a newsletter last April about the fact that cancer is a fungus in an article about the findings of two British scientists and researchers, Professor Gerry Potter of the Cancer Drug Discovery Group and Professor Dan Burke. Their combined findings reveal the following ... Cancer cells have a unique 'biomarker' that normal cells do not, an enzyme called CYP1B1 (pronounced sip-one-bee-one). Enzymes are proteins that 'catalyse' (increase the rate of) chemical reactions. The CYP1B1 alters the chemical structure of something called salvestrols that are found naturally in many fruit and vegetables. This chemical change turns the salvestrols into an agent that kills cancer cells, but does no harm to healthy cells. The synchronicity is perfect. The CYP1B1 enzyme appears only in cancer cells and it reacts with salvestrols in fruit and vegetables to create a chemical substance that kills only cancer cells. But here's the point with regard to cancer being a fungus. Salvestrols are the natural defence system in fruit and vegetables against fungal attacks and that's why you only find them in those species subject to fungus damage, like strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, grapes, blackcurrants, redcurrants, blackberries, cranberries, apples, pears, green vegetables (especially broccoli and the cabbage family), artichokes, red and yellow peppers, avocados, watercress, asparagus and aubergines. What's more, the Big Pharma/Big Biotech cartels know all this and they have done two major things to undermine this natural defence from the fungal attack that is cancer. The chemical fungicide sprays used in modern farming kill fungus artificially and this means the plants and crops do not have to trigger their own defence - salvestrols. You only find them in any amount today in organically grown food. The most widely-used fungicides are very powerful blockers of CYP1B1 and so if you eat enough chemically-produced food it wouldn't matter how many salvestrols you consumed they would not be activated into the cancer-destroying agent they are designed to be. This is not by accident, but by calculated design, as were, and are, the attempts by the establishment to destroy Tullio Simoncini. The families want people to die of cancer, not be cured of it. They are mentally and emotionally as sick as you can imagine and see humans as sheep and cattle. They don't care how much distress, suffering and death their manipulation and suppression will cause - the more the better from their insane perspective. And that is what these people are ... insane. But Simoncini refuses to buckle and continues to campaign for what has seen is an effective treatment for cancer, while, in the 'real' world, the number of cancer deaths goes on rising incessantly because of treatments that don't work based on assumptions that aren't true. It is indeed a crazy, crazy society, but then, from the perspective of the bloodline families, it's meant to be. Thank goodness for courageous and committed people like Tullio Simoncini. We need more like him - and quick. What a stark contrast he is to those who serve the medical establishment. When Simoncini spoke at the Shen Clinic a few weeks ago some local doctors dismissed him before he arrived and ridiculed his views. They were invited along to his talk, which would have been of enormous potential benefit to their patients. Chairs were reserved for them to hear what Simoncini was saying first hand and give them the chance to ask any questions. What happened? They never came. Tullio Simoncini on video and accounts of those who have experienced his treatments Tullio Simoncini Website http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/ Click here for the Shen Clinic Website ...http://www.theshenclinic.comn Simple Test To See Your Candida Levels Take a glass of water to bed and leave it on the bedside cabinet. When you awaken, spit into the water. Do NOT try to gather spit from the inside of your mouth, just spit whatever you have, however little, into the water. Allow to stand for 15 minutes, then gently swill the contents round in the glass. Hold glass up to the light. If the spit remains on top of the water, or dissolves, you are OK. If it turns the water cloudy, you have a Positive Indicator. "Hold glass up to the light. If water turns cloudy, or legs appear descending down through the water you may have a Candida imbalance. In such cases you might like to consider contacting us for advice or alternatively you might like to consider going to www.naturopharma.com. for product suggestions." (Always be responsible regarding your health and seek advice from a medical practitioner where you have any health concerns.) <br style="clear: both;">
    9 points
  6. Hey guys I am on my I phone and I just saw on the NINA News web site where the are talking about addressing the Erbil agreement this Sunday. If some one could post the link. This could be great. Don't know how to copy and paste from my phone. Go RV.
    8 points
  7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BLiSp_O5NY
    8 points
  8. My friend is an author. He and I were chatting about this venture. I responded to him that I thought it would be a while before we saw any "real" movement on the IQD... here is his response: I don’t think so, Alex. While researching my book, I developed a few relationships with some financial people who were anti-Goldman, anti-Fed like John Allison, Eric Rodin, Peter Luiks, Robert Fay, Ric Edelman and some others. The London-Bern-Rothschild contingent has overplayed their hand and China is looking at their investments going down the drain due to this massive central bank counterfeit operation. They were waiting to see if anyone was going to be prosecuted, but Obama isn’t going to do that. He’s owned by them, same as Bush. It’s Punch & Judy on a global scale. The Grand Scheme was for the RV to occur before the election, giving Obama the funds to pay off the national debt and be swept into office as The Second Coming of George Washington; but, the EU has started to unravel due to Greece and Iraq is getting anxious about Iran and Syria. The London cartel has had to speed up the timeline; but, to hedge their bets, they put the NDAA into place which would allow them to enlist private armies to protect “critical assets,” i.e. banks and make mass arrests of angry protestors – in effect, declare martial law and turn the US into a police state. The Chinese need a free market, capitalistic society to which to sell their wares and they are watching these greedy globalists paving the way for a Soylent Green-type society. They’ve had enough. Time to flush the toilet. They are going to call in their note right after the RV. This will bankrupt the Federal Reserve, crush the dollar and totally sink the EU and the BIS in Bern. It is going to make 2008 look like a picnic in the park; but those who have IQDs are going to be holding good money that is backed by real assets, not fiat currency. I heard this directly from an executive-level investment banker who sits on the board of a large, multi-national bank. He said that there are huge amounts of cash being moved around the system in an effort to fortify the weak spots in the system, but it is basically too little, too late. Bernanke and Draghi have printed so much currency to keep inflation at bay and keep the system flowing that there is no way to support it. It’s like the derivatives schemes; there’s more debts based on IOUs than there is assets in the whole world and now there’s more dollars and Euros than all of the assets in the US and the Euro zone. Xxxx's advice was to form a corporation in Wyoming, Alaska, South Dakota, Florida or Texas because they have the strongest privacy firewalls. Have the corporation open an off-shore bank account; he actually recommended chartering a bank in the Philippines because of it’s non-aligned status. He also suggested converting your post-RV IQD to Canadian, Australian or South African Rands and use it to fund your corporation. Then your corporation hires you as an officer and pays you a salary, provides benefits and whatever else you need to perform your duties. It can all be set up by a good Private Banker with international experience. (BTW, I have a one I can recommend if you need one.) Jim also stressed that we get a “Letter of Opinion” from the IRS. This should be done as soon as possible AFTER the RV and handled by a competent tax attorney; this protects you from the IRS ever coming back later and trying to collect more taxes from you. Nobody knows exactly when, but I was told to expect the RV in the next 7 to 10 days. Call me if you have any questions. Love to Mo and the critters, Xxxxxx
    7 points
  9. Abtan: Everyone is pushing for adoption of the budget of Finance for the current year and no one wants to impede the approval Ali Aldhargam - 10/02/2012 AD - 11:40 AM | Hits: 25 A member of the parliamentary Economic Committee on the mass of 'Abdul-Hussein Abtan said, "Everyone is pushing for adoption of the budget of Finance for the current year and no one wants to impede the approval." He Abtan told all of Iraq [where] the day that the "pass the financial budget has nothing to do open some files, saying that" some want to pass the budget for the current year in Parliament quickly on the grounds that "there are a lot of things on budget both financial staff salaries and services as well as all sectors, while the majority of the members of Parliament believe that Henk lot of observations about the financial budget First, oil prices and secondly: the final accounts which have not up until now to parliament and thirdly: the weakness of the budget to achieve positive results for the slides that need support. " He pointed out that "there are two goals of the budget First, it must achieve a decent living for the Iraqi people and the fight against poverty and Second: You must achieve a quantum leap in the field of services." The Presidency of the Council of Representatives decided last Monday to postpone the parliamentary session eighteen normal to the fourteenth of this month for lack of quorum for the session, which was dedicated to discuss the budget for fiscal year 2012. The government had approved in early December last budget in 2012 a total amount of [100] billion dollars, which is the largest budget in the history of Iraq. and distributed the financial budget for Iraq by [68] percent of the operational projects, with gold [32] for the investment budget. http://www.burathanews.com/news_article_148302.html
    7 points
  10. My girlfriend is Turkish.Her sister lives in Turkey still.Her sister's best friend is an engineer with a contracting firm in Iraq.That is all I am going to tell you so please don't ask me to get anymore personal or ask for a link!!!Today we were told that there is alot of talk in Iraq about the Erbil Agreement,that the people are aware of it and it's implications.......but most importantly they are talking about it!!!!....This is the first news I have had that has made me somewhat excited about this roller coaster ride possibly ending soon. If anyone has ever read my posts you know I think the Erbil Agreement is the single most important factor in the future of the dinar.Hell,the future of Iraq...period!IMO this agreement seriously limits the chances of another dictator coming to power in Iraq.....and it is what we and the rest of the world have been waiting for.We should see everything else fall into place quite quickly if the Erbil Agreement is in fact about to be completed.JMO folks. Cheers, Sparky
    7 points
  11. Hey guys... just thought I'd share some great news... I am playing Tim Allen's neighbor on his show LAST MAN STANDING.... start filming tomorrow... Good stuff. My character's name is Frank Milbauer.... just letting ya know Oh... and GO RV!!!!!
    6 points
  12. Have you read any of the 751 pages in the post about the crazy side of Dinar Vets? I'd say that is across the line in several areas. I still haven't figured why it continues running. I guess we are setting a new record for pages or is this really how DV is?
    6 points
  13. How amazing and creative is this? We take something so simple as windows and sunlight for granted - a luxury in a third world country. click here for an incredible video http://www.wimp.com/lightenup/
    6 points
  14. CNN. Broadcasting While Hiding Behind The Curtains At This Weekends Iraqi National Conference ! drpatton says to (05:28:08): I cant make heads or tails out of all this where are we on our investment Med says to (05:29:08): drpatton GM YOU CANT HAVE YOU BEEN AWAY CUZ IT REALLY ISNT THAT DIFFICULT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW I HAVE TIME JUST ASK I WILL TRY TO HELP YOU OUT IF I CAN drpatton says to (05:31:41): IM real yes vIET NAM UR UNIT YES BACK EAST I NO WERE IN THE SECOND PHASE BUT WHATS THAST Med says to (05:32:15): OK DR SIT BACK OK I USE THE KISS PRINCIPLE drpatton says to (05:32:28): OK Med says to (05:32:41): AND I WILL EXPLAIN SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND I MAY LAY SOME GROUND WORK OK SO BE PATIENT IS THAT OK BUT I AM NOT GOING BACK FAR ... drpatton says to (05:33:22): I NO WHAT KISS IS BUT IM NOT STUPID Med says to (05:33:37): NEVER SAID YOU WERE STUPID DID I BUT I ALWAYS USE THE SAME PRINCIPLE SO IT IS ALWAYS IN LAYMANS TERMS I AM ONLY GOING BY YOUR STATEMENT OF NOT KNOWING WHERE WE ARE SO DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE drpatton says to (05:36:06): I READ THE FORUMS BUT I CANNOT MAKE HEADS OR TAILS Med says to (05:36:24): OK SIT BACK drpatton says to (05:36:31): YES PLEASE Med says to (05:36:42): FIRST NONE OF US REALIZED JUST HOW MUCH WAS INVOLVED SINCE CBI SAID LONG AGO THEY WERE READY WELL APPARENTLY NOT YES CBI CAN CHANGE THE RATE AT WILL WITH NO PERMISSION BY THE GOI OR PARLIAMENT BUT TO CHANGE THE CURRENCY THEY HAVE TO SO CBI HAD TO SEND A DRAFT OR BILL LIKE IN OUR CONGRESS TO THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS WHICH IS A GROUP OF MPS WHO REVIEW IT IF THEY APPROVE OF THE DRAFT THEN THEY SEND IT TO PARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT MUST READ A DRAFT TWICE WITHOUT CHANGES THEN THEY MUST WAIT 4 DAYS TO VOTE ON SAID DRAFT TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL THE DRAFT BY CBI HAS BEEN READ TWICE LAST ONE JUST BEFORE WINTER BREAK NOW THEN FOR SOME REASON IT WENT TO THE PARLIAMENTARY FINANCE COMMITTEE AND IT WAS REVIEWED FOR QUITE AWHILE IT WAS THEN APPROVED AND SENT BACK TO PARLIAMENT FOR FINAL VOTE drpatton says to (05:40:01): I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT YOU EXPLAINED ALL THAT A COUPLE TEARS AGO AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR BTIMES Med says to (05:40:22): LIKE I SAID I WAS GOING TO LAY THE GROUND WORK SO SIT BACK AND CAN YOU GO TO SMALL LETTERS drpatton says to (05:40:59): OK THANKS Med says to (05:41:16): OK SO I WILL SKIP WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW drpatton says to (05:41:50): Where we are as of today Med says to (05:41:58): WAITING FOR THE VOTE WAITING FOR THE BUDGET TO PASS THEN WAITING FOR CBI TO CHANGE THE RATE THAT IS IT drpatton says to (05:42:53): Ok su im not that far off in my thoughts Med says to (05:43:20): NO YOU ARE NOT IF THAT IS HOW YOU UNDERSTOOD IT IT IS DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY
    5 points
  15. CNN. Broadcasting While Licking A Chalkboard. We Couldn't Find An Eraser ! 2-10-2012 Guru Doc Several have suggested that the proposed 2012 budget currently being debated does in fact hint to a RV rate in the upper $3+ range. This is assumed by taking the budget of 115 trillion dinar and dividing it by the assumed total dinar of around 30 trillion. Unfortunately this is not how budget or RV value works. The budget is simply an accounting of the expenses of the GOI to operate the country. 2-10-2012 Guru Doc The revenues coming in to pay for these expenses is from oil and the budget assumes 2.6 million barrels/day at $85. Doing the math we calculate revenue to be $81 billion. Now we apply an exchange rate of 1170 dinar/$ and revenues are about 95 trillion dinar or about 20 trillion less than expenses. However in the budget they stated there was around a 20 trillion shortfall and it would be made up from reserves. Simply put the budget being debate right now assumes a 1170 exchange rate. The question is do they have a second budget ready to present post RV? We would be shocked if they did not. 2-9-2012 Guru Randy Koonce I hope everyone realizes it didn’t RV here or in another country...guys, they can’t do it that way...And don’t fall for the banks waiting for the numbers to drop in...it’s not happening…go check CBI, it’ll change that first. National Conference...the newspaper said they changed the name…it’s the National Meeting now. We believe is an important meeting…basically our opinions and shortly after that we’ll see the ministers show up. There’s not going to be an RV until the ministers show up first. That’s a requirement for Shabibi…he wants a complete government...no ministers = no RV. 2-10-2012 Guru Randy Koonce There’s no argument with the budget – 10 cents won’t even give them the dinar for their annual budget in US dollars…the total revenue for Iraq is 26 billion dollars…they want to come out with 89.1 billion dollars (not dinar)…if they say we want our currency to be worth 10cents…that’s only 2.6 billion dinar….they don’t meet the budget. 1:1 – they’re still short…they’re 3 x short. The easiest way to see this – divide 26 billion into 89.1 = rate...3.41 – that’s it. A managed float...that’s what they have to come out with! Have to! 2-9-2012 Guru 8Ball Iraq is a new economy which can prop up countries which need an injection of capital. Iraq is kind of the center of the currency RV’s, one feeding the other...We are definitely headed to a major event...the RV will feed the system...The news seems to lead 15th.
    5 points
  16. Wangdang Transcript – 2-9-12 [Disclaimer: This transcript is not without error, omissions, or typo’s.] Maliki tried to stop Erbil saying it was unconstitutional but ti came back saying it was legal and constitutional. It wasn’t hocus pocus. The ministers have already been decided, they’re s itting there in the wings waiting to get sworn in. The security minister is the one that was given to Allawi. They put it back on the table….Talabani took it from Maliki and put it back with the 3 ministers with the SP where it belongs. We should see a name for a security ministers in 24 -48 hours. Once we see all three ministers, we will be cooking! When Maliki feels it’s complete, he will make an announcement and Shabibi will be behind him. If he doesn’t, Allawi will have the authority to do this because he will have seated the 3 ministers. There is NO WAY…and I’m taking all questions when I got a call last night….when this conference or meeting is over, we will have Erbil and the 3 ministers seated. These are things that are being said in private and we know them for a fact. So whether the RV is coming out of the conference or an RV afterwards, we will see it soon. I don’t want to discuss anybody’s thoughts or opinions…we’re not weeks away. We need to not take the propaganda…they do that with the truth and then they slide back. When the conference meeting has adjourned and all the smoke has settled, we’ll have an RV or be at the door. The CBI is in control…these are things we knew happened 2 years ago BEFORE we could get to an RV. They moved from 1170 to show their control and the banks had to show the true numbers….they no longer can be proxy for any other activity – showing the need for anything they’re buying or anything of that nature. Inflation is going to soar, so even if we don’t come out of the conference with it settled, Shabibi is going to raise their currency – and it will float to 7 but never allow the inflation to get to double digits…he said he wouldn’t tolerate that. Who cares? With the rate and the banks find out, inflation will get out of control. S. isn’t going to tolerate double-digit inflation. This is the avenue – Erbil…Allawi takes his seat…and that’s an RV. The Kurds are going to open that budget if they don’t. That’s Talabani’s 2 pet peeves…Erbil and RV and the Kurds will open the budget and I love to say this…the budget has provided in the Constitution at .86-1.13. I know a bunch of brains are looking it up – just like it was given to me. I do know the HCL opens the budget it will be that rate. Q & A – Let’s get fired up with some questions: Q: There’s a lot of discrepancy about when the conference starts…I’ve heard a couple things about 10 cents and 26 cents…I can make cases for it as I’ve been around it for a long time and can regergetate it, and I’m not going to worry about it. They’re not going to give us a timeline…they have excuse after excuse, but I’d like to think the noose is tightening around Maliki’s neck…what’s happening that we don’t know…we think they have a pattern, heard people say even the auctions aren’t accurate. Maliki started to do things a year ago and it seems like the Iraqis are completely subdued and you don’t hear about that. A: Conference in March – last year I told people I was new at speaking on a couple of calls, something I know to be true. Maliki will not host this summit without having his money. They cancelled it last year and if it doesn’t happen, we won’t see it next year. Having said that, please please know that the bank now is legit with the numbers and that’s why we’ll see our RV because before they were phoney – and it was all made up to make us happy. It’s that they’re not ready to RV. Q: I respect the fact that you and Fresh haven’t said one bad word, but I listened to one call today and there’s a lot of back tracking going on with people trying to suppor t these higher rates. I’m fine with .86-1 but I’ve heard a lot of people say that they need the money and it doesn’t make sense…any thoughts? A: Check this out – when you have people who have theories they don’t have anything that supports their theory. We have 2 theories…if it’s forced open, it’s .86-1.00. Secondly, the IMF made an agreement with Iraq …all in writing…that when they RI or RV, they’re going to come back at 3.21 + 20% inflation and they can’t go above Kuwait by 25 cents. So all these hocus pocus things they’re coming up with are not true. The only thing that Iraq has given the world are the two things I just expressed. That’s it! Shabibi never said we’re going to come back with a 10 cents and be the top country. He said we’re going to be the most powerful currency in our region. Q. If they come out below a dollar…and they change the rate with a time limit – don’t think they can do that…they barely can get $18 out of a $25K note, there’s very little dinar in the country and then come out with a quarter or dime with currency they’ve never seen before, and compared to the dollar, they’re not going to give it up. A: It cost $14 for each note…about 4 years ago Congress told what each bill that was made cost…25,000 - $14, $10,000 was $10+ -- for this currency to come back less than $3.21 is absurd…it’s not going to happen. And people who are in the know English speaking people, say it’s going to happen and it’s going to RV. If they wanted to do it on a dime, they could drop the 000’s and change the rate to 10 cents…it’s absurd…If people who are saying this stuff really had people in that country, they wouldn’t be saying that stuff. And if these people keep the dollar in the system after the GOI is fully formed, the IMF is going to slaughter them…just like Vietnam…they were ready to go 3-8 cents and the next day the IMF slammed dunked them for not dollarizing their currency. Iraq isn’t dumb…they know the penalty…stay inside ourselves….I don’t see smoke when the picture is clear to me. And more people are coming in line with what I’ve been saying for the last 2 years…this currency is going to RV and the budget may be opened .86-1.13 if forced opened, and if Maliki announces his government with the 3 ministers in place, this currency is going to RI or RV…3.21 + 20% and no higher than 25 cents above Kuwait. Q: If it’s forced out, is it still going to be a managed float? A: That’s a great question…when that .86 forces the budget opened, the IMF is going to call them and get into motion dealing with Iraqi’s as to how fast to let it go with the world’s largest oil resources. Iraq is #1 …so the IMF has to be the rule keeper and law enforcer with currencies so what the IMF is going to do is swing this thing as fast as they can to get them up with speed and re-doing their country. So, 86 cents is just the beginning, and I don’t know if we see it, but by the time we see it it could be up to $2-3…they’re going to move it. Q: Once the RV takes place, do you think there will be a set amount of time to cash in or immediately overnight. A: Let’s say the bank opens and Iraq opens right now….you can’t get up and go to the bank because they don’t’ know what to do with you – until the NY Stock Exchange opens and every country in the world says that the Iraqi dinar is available, and it’s at this rate…they’ll le-mail every branch which won’t take that long…the first one is NY Stock Exchange, then Tokyo, London, Bejiing, whatever is the stock exchange in that country for international trading. No one can change anything about that. That’s why we shoot down that algorism stuff….they will send it to the bank and this is what it’s worth. Q: As far as the information from guru’s, is it because they’re getting compensated for dinar sales? Are there any you could say you could respect. A: I’m not going to say – because there’s a lot of good ones, and there are more good than bad. Some people don’t care if and will do anything they can to buy dinars and a lot of them don’t care if it ever RV’s…the ones who care are the ones who give you rules….this is what happens and this is how we’ll get the RV. They’re like you – waiting on their investment like you and waiting for the blessing to materialize. Q: The important national meeting??? A: Talabani, Maliki, Shabibi…everyone runs the country…they will all be represente4d by their leaders. The agenda in addition to the ministers – I heard there’s something besides the seating of the ministers. Absolutely – the HCL is Talabani’s baby – and electricity for the people and what they want to make this work…a bunch of trade going on…that’s the way we taught them and that’s the way democracy is. Q: So, if it goes as we hope that the ministers will be approved, does it have to go to Parliament? A: Yes, I think it’ll happen right then and there…swear them in and he’s not going to let Maliki do anything …they’re going to make him do what they want….they’re not going to come out of the meetings like he did with Erbil….leave, start garbage and strip Erbil with his teeth. Q: Now Shabibi is satisfied with the power sharing and he pulls the trigger…is the US Treasury involved? A: Always, but nothing to do with the RV…it will go to every major stock exchange in the world and controlled by the IMF and World bank…they’ll shoot it out to everyone. Q: No more delays with the other 100 countries we were told were involved with the IMf…? A: None…when they have the ministers, it will be done in hours. Q: The national conference and the Arab Summit are different things? A: National conference in my book and people in the ground said it started 2 Sunday’s ago…this is what’s good. Monica said something that I’ve been keeping on my chest for a while…She said what if (named all the top leaders) are meeting and hammering things out? Well, we have proof that Talabani already signed something and ……………………..and they changed the name of the conference. When they changed the status, they’re getting ready to horse trade…but I believe when the top of the executive branch is there, they’re going to trade with one another on things they need. These things have been occurring that these things have been happening for 9-10 days with my military mind….It will be abrupt…people are going to say..I didn’t know we were in that phase…They’ll say, okay, we finished, it’s done. The ministers are here…the prime minister has an announcement, and they will hold Maliki to it. Q: We can really expect it at any time. When did they hold the summit? A: That’s in March 12 or 14th…last year it was supposed to be May but they didn’t have the money and they’re too vain…they’re not going to be penniless and show their neighbors so they postponed it …they have a bunch of pretty buildings but their culture doesn’t think that way – you have to feed people, show a great amount of hospitality and if you’re not in control with the currency, they’re going to see you as weak. Q: I saw Maliki and everyone having a meeting and they were all happy – that tells me things are progressing. Can you name the 3 phases that the RV will take to RV. A: The only phase I’m interested in is the RV…I’m not in tune with that…we just have to look for the Kurds to open the budget, security ministers, Erbil, and Allawi seated. I’m not concerned with phases…I think a lot of that stuff is garbage. The phase is this…get the RV. We’re not far away. Q: A: Iraq is famous for giving you a little news and then 3-4 days they take the truth back…that’s the way they do business. They change their minds thinking they have a deal…they don’t do business like we do in the western world, so the things we think and hold to be true, they don’t care about. Q: This may last 3-4 weeks. A: No, anything’s possible, but I think it’s going to be 3-4 days that Talabani wants this thing done. Q: I can’t understand how they say they care for their people and Maliki keep s dragging this out when it should have been done last June? How can they let him get by with this? And the people suffering? A: Look, imagine this….just think if you’ve been abused for 20 years and then a liberator came and set you free, how far do you think you would wonder at first the person who was afflicting the abusiveness upon you? Most people don’t – sadly to say. When M. is pulling shananigans, it’s par for the course. Then you have Talabani and Allawi – they say the old way is done with a democracy. But Maliki used the Constitution to beat his side of his head…he starts fighting at the most inopportune moment when they want to feed people and get out the Smart Cards. Maliki gets people killed. My hope and belief along with intel…what this man has done, they’re going to get him when he’s no longer Prime Minister. He’s gone. Maliki is a bad boy and that’s all I want to say about him because I’ll start overdoing it. The people won’t know better until a man like Allawi becomes a Prime Minister and build hospitals ---the man is a brain surgeon. They keep trying to force it, but this guy is difficult to deal with and they don’t want to throw their country into civil war..and Maliki knows it, he’s a bully. Q: I don’t think it’s all Iraq – I think it’s with other countries. A: Well, I can’t call you wrong, but if the IMF finds out, everybody will have to annie up – Q: We thought they were seated a year ago and here we go again…I don’t understand their way of doing things. A: Maliki threw everybody a curve ball..using the word FORMED the government, but later we found out that this isn’t working…M. kept the 3 most important ministers out of the government and kept it for himself….If he would have allowed it to go the way it was said to go, these guys were elected and ready for office, but Maliki said it’s “my job” and I have the right to appoint this and stopped the process. He said I’m going to sit at the head until I find someone professional and competent (those were his words). Q: Am I wrong that the US wouldn’t release Ch. 7? A: Yes, not until he announces he has a completed government and the ministers are seated. Q: Are we looking for an RV between now and the 15th? A: Anytime, but I don’t know the date. They want to surprise us and they will. Q: Is it possible to do this before the conference because Obama has a meeting on the 13th…he may ask for an extension. A: I’m not going to speculate and I don’t see why because the president has made sure that Iraq’s hand is no longer in our pocket and we don’t give them a crumb. If his counterpart knew he was funneling money, they’d crucify him. So, I don’t know why since we’re no longer there…except for those who are there and they pay us…we don’t pay them any longer. I don’t know why that would be tied together. Q: The US reserves with dinar may help our economy. A: Yeah, but he can’t force Shabibi…I can guarantee you … I have an incredible amount of respect for Shabibi….Alan Greenspan have been on trips together….we just have to wait. Q: This meeting after the conference is this Sunday, right? A: It’s the same thing, just rolling over…Maliki just said to change the name from national conference to national meeting…now the regular representatives out of Parliament are going to be involve…and this is what we came up with. How does it affect your region of the country? What would you like to see? How would you like it? It was all executive committee with the conference. Q: Thanks…with knowledge comes freedom -- from the Constituion, it’s all working. A: The truth is better than fiction...when you start looking at when a man tells you x,y,z, I don’t go any further than that and I feel comfortable in my skin….too many people are making up stuff, fabricating, and it’s hurting a lot of innocent people that’s being materialized. I’m going to say my prayers and be sure to give only that what I know and God is good when we treat people like that. The next call is Saturday – but if the news comes out sooner, we’ll send you an e-mail. Thanks to all!
    5 points
  17. It's been quite some time since I have anything in the way of a legitimate post, so let me say from the get go here that I am a devout believer in the dinar revalue. I have been into this investment since '05 as a civilian contractor in Iraq. I spent 5 years there and have followed the investment and forums daily since then. Because of that I have acquired the mindset of feeling like we have to question anything the so called "gurus" have to say. For the most part they spout only gibberish. Credit where it is due however, once in awhile a gem in genuine info and advice is given. What we all need to remember is very simple...the opinions and predictions presented, while supposedly based on fact, are only opinion and guesswork...nothing more. Even the most educated guesses are just that...guesswork. There is no way that a Western mind will ever understand truly the Middle Eastern mentality or reasoning. We base everything on OUR way of thinking, and that is the fundamental mistake. While the GOI must act within certain perameters as set forth by certain World authorities, they are still their own country. What they do and how they do it may not agree with us as Westerners, but they still have the right to do pretty much as they wish regardless of our objections. Their motivations are, have been and always will be not subject to our approval. I am certain Iraq is grateful for U.S. intervention in ridding them of of a dictator and tyrant, but at the same time I can understand their reluctance to "kowtow" to anyone's directions in their future. Everyone asks "why"...why has the R/V not occurred yet, why doesn't Shabbs do this, or Maliki do that. The answer is simple: they don't HAVE to tell us why. When the goat is staked to the tree as bait for the tiger, is he told in advance what will happen? Of course not. Dignity and self respect are as big an issue in Iraq, maybe even more so, than anywhere else in the world, so their refusal to be dictated to by anyone becomes even more apparent. Right or wrong, efficient or inefficient, they still have a right to their own sovereignty and the process to their independence will be on their terms and their pace. For the most part, people's aggravation regarding the delayed r/v stems from impatience. I am as guilty of that as anyone else. It also stems from lack of investigation on the part of each of us. It's kind of human nature anymore to expend as little energy as possible. Far easier to just listen and follow the words of some self proclaimed "guru", than spend the time and energy into investigating the facts ourselves. Therein lies the fundamental danger and is one of the reasons cults exist in the world today...it is easier to just follow than take the initiative and lead. Read. Study. Make up your OWN mind, before someone else makes it up for you and leads you someplace you do not want to be. We all have a responsibility in the world...to educate and elevate ourselves. To use the brain God has given us.
    5 points
  18. My head is spinning... I feel really... Uh... Not smart right about now... KK
    5 points
  19. Greg you are spot on .....and anybody with the most humble of education can read the numbers ....i too have done the equations ....several times over the years ......striate from the sells .....and the numbers are staggering .......something is just not right with the world man ....when this can go on .....and the average people dont see it ..........your numbers only differ from mine by a few trillion dinar .....hahahahaha but when your talking 400 trillion whats a few between friends
    5 points
  20. 2/9/12 8:33 PM [Historian] Just popping in to make a quick comment. 8:34 PM [Historian] Re: Okie’s post just above — an interesting clue to the RV: “on a daily basis the us treasury posts their transfers to the central banks of the fed res here in the USA. As uncommon as it is–today and the last few days there has been no transfers issued….” Could it be that the Fed Reserve is preparing to halt operations? We would have an RV at the same time as that, because that would change large portions of the global monetary system. 8:36 PM [Historian] michigander0131 Could be they simply haven’t transferred for other reasons and will soon resume, or it could signify that it is halting operations. 8:54 PM [Historian] lantzalots NP. I can tell you my own logic on the dinar. IMO, it is illogical for the currency to be low given the country’s asset wealth in resources. As well, there is a history that shows the IQD traded at rates similar to the KWD, and then was artificially devalued. Following that, the currency was replaced. 8:56 PM [Historian] lantzalots Now that tells me that the folks doing all this wanted to cut someone else out — other folks who had the old dinar now had $0 value for it. And that tells me that the folks doing that would also then revalue the currency so as to profit from it. 8:57 PM [Historian] lantzalots The pattern of activity is exactly the same as what I have seen in the stock market when it is manipulated. Folks devalue a stock, then they and their friends buy it up for cheap, then after a while they revalue it high and make a lot of profit. That is how I see this IQD play. We are playing the players. 8:59 PM [Historian] lantzalots Now this IQD RV has been a bit more complicated than that. And most important, the strategy CHANGED over time. 8:37 PM [Historian] happytrails Possibly. But his use of language is consistent with Okie. How he uses apostrophes, prefixes and other little details. 9:00 PM [Historian] lantzalots From being the RV of one currency, it grew into the RV of many currencies. Plus, I think the folks running the show or influencing how it goes also changed over the last 8 years. And when that happens, what they implement changes and the timeline changes. 9:01 PM [lantzalots] Historian I understand what you are saying but it so hard to believe that we the general public can make anything on this deal. 9:02 PM [lantzalots] Historian we are just peons 9:03 PM [Historian] lantzalots The changed strategy expanded to include changes to banking systems worldwide, the RV of other currencies, perhaps a change to parts of the global monetary system. It took a few years to prepare for all of that. That is the reason for the delay, and the reason why sometimes over the years you heard that it was about to happen, and then it didn’t. Strategy changed. New stuff had to be implemented. 9:04 PM [michigander0131] lantzalots you have to remember in the beginning we were not supposed to know about this 9:04 PM [Historian] lantzalots Do not think of this as an investment. Think that you are hitching a ride on the coat-tails of a lot of rich and powerful folk. You have managed to sneak a peek of something they are doing that you were not intended to see, and as a result you have been able to get a tiny little piece of it. Now just hang on until they do what they want to do. They cannot RV and profit themselves without profiting you. 9:02 PM [lantzalots] Historian we are just peons 9:03 PM [Historian] lantzalots The changed strategy expanded to include changes to banking systems worldwide, the RV of other currencies, perhaps a change to parts of the global monetary system. It took a few years to prepare for all of that. That is the reason for the delay, and the reason why sometimes over the years you heard that it was about to happen, and then it didn’t. Strategy changed. New stuff had to be implemented. 9:04 PM [michigander0131] lantzalots you have to remember in the biginning we were not supposed to know about this 9:04 PM [Historian] lantzalots Do not think of this as an investment. Think that you are hitching a ride on the coat-tails of a lot of rich and powerful folk. You have managed to sneak a peek of something they are doing that you were not intended to see, and as a result you have been able to get a tiny little piece of it. Now just hang on until they do what they want to do. They cannot RV and profit themselves without profiting you. 9:10 PM [michigander0131] Historian that is so true 9:11 PM [Historian] lantzalots You are already at the bottom of the market for the dinar. There is no rush to sell it. If you don’t need the money, it doesn’t hurt you to hang on. A lot of smart folks are hanging onto theirs, so even if you don’t quite understand the whole thing, pay attention to the fact they do, and they are not selling. 9:12 PM [Historian] lantzalots IMO, there is “0″ chance of that. 9:14 PM [Historian] lantzalots This is a real currency in the real world. It is used for real world activity. Based on real world economics, it is grossly undervalued. We know it was artificially devalued, so we can surmise that those who devalued it likely have a plan to revalue it when it suits them. And the longer it takes, the closer we get.
    4 points
  21. It is my firm belief by watching and listening that the agenda of Obama is already been decided. With the many meetings with Isreal about what and how to deal with Iran it is common place thinking to say that the US has reassurred Isreal that we have their backs in a conflict with Iran once it is time. Now Isreal has wanted to stop them by preemptive strikes several times and yet both President and Vice President of the US has presueded them to wait. First Isreal said that they will have to act before their winter sets in if they are to be successful, then another meeting was help between the US and them now they say by summer because Iran is growing increasingly closer to a nuclear threat that cannot be turned back once they have it. It is my firm belief that they will be told one more time to wait until the end of summer before taking any action..........It is my prediction that Obama has set a timeline for this to correspond with the election 2012. If the United States of America is engaged in a war at the time of an election the sitting president will stay in office until?. I firmly believe this is his strategy just incase he was to be losing in the polls. While it is justified to stop a rogue country like Iran who has threatened to wipe another off the face of the earth to feed their hatred, it is not justified to use such a destructive event to stay in office. Many will disagree with this but wisdom has its place. Two more appointees (Muslims) to head up our agencys in govt. He is softly and swiftly bringing in a new era to this nation and it is one we will not like. If you can't help get this man out of our presidency then maybe you will like the beatings and the hangings allowed under their laws.....Just my opinion Heavyduty053
    4 points
  22. Hey truthful, I think that them not setting a date could be the best thing that could have done because every time they set a date they screw it up. This leads me to believe that this time they want it done, finished and agreed upon before they announce the date of the National Meeting that will enable them to announce to the world that they are in full agreement on how to run their country....hence..removal of Chapter VII.. I agree 100% that this could be history in the making but I'm not talking about our possibility of making money, I'm talking about the first time Iraq has been a real free democracy in history,..........no dictators or royal family control...its going to be nice when we all make money off our investments...but to change the way others view them is big.... in my opinion anyway... There's people that say...we've heard this before...there's no way...they been fighting for 4000 thousand years.....their not going to change......and I say lets give them a chance to prove us all wrong.... ps...your right very interesting indeed, I don't care what other people say this is the most exciting time to watch this...I don't want to miss any of it unfold...JMO....no disrespect to you Adam at all by the way...that's this me..
    4 points
  23. I personally want to say thankyou to Markinsa, altho a few folks have brought many cute, inspirational and funny jokes and poems there have been a few that just were not acceptable to the "narrow Minded" as you guys call us. I have been in the crazy side once and left in less than 5 seconds as I knew immediately, I did not want to read that kind of material. I'm not condemning but I think Markinsa hit the nail on the head when he said keep your jokes in there...That thread. I appreciate you Markinsa
    4 points
  24. This will be my last remark about this so I genuinely hope it doesn't offend you. But from the scripture you've used on your page I'm guessing you are a Christian and realize the implications of sowing and reaping. That being said, I go back to my original question about the post concerning the crazy side of DV. If you take the rules you just layed out to Delta and try to make that post fit inside them there is no way it works. Just out of curiosity what kind of "special circumstances" allows that to run for 751 pages when it is totally full of innuendos, insinuations, descriptive terminology, and other phallic humor. I'm not perfect by any means but what kind of "special circumstances" allows about a dozen people to go on and on with this when there are many others who get their chain yanked within 5 minutes. If its teenage boys or old folks wanting to act young, its all the same. Oh well, you did leave us an out...if we don't like it we are welcome to go play somewhere else. The "mature" folks might get offended if we posted one that said "Christian content"...if you are an atheist, agnostic, spiritist, occultist, witch, warlord, universalist, or some other "ist" don't read! From now on Delta put a disclaimer on it or at least a warning label.
    4 points
  25. YES this is not prefect but close enough to make a VERY interesting point to those who KEEP saying they dont have the funds. You did a great job here. So now it is a matter of how this will go thru and when? The reserve is there though. I agree 100%. I look forward to the responses. Have a great night and week.
    4 points
  26. You have FAR too much time on your hands ... maybe a hobby? ... something other than arithmetic? You lost me part way through, but that's not surprising. I have a very short attention span when it comes to numbers. I do enjoy reading bottom lines and yours are intriguing to say the least. Have fun ... and when the RV happens you can play those number games with your own dollars ... smee2
    4 points
  27. For the retards that voted for change, I hope your happy.....
    4 points
  28. Hello DV family, I don't know how many of you out there have recently considered your thoughts and beliefs around money. Currently, there have been a lot of events going on in my life that have brought me to the point that I have recently began to study this subject for myself. I had begun studying it several years ago, and did not carry it through. I am SO THANKFUL that while talking to a friend this week, (we are involved in an online biz together) we decided to work together, study, train, ect. all for the end result of being SUCCESSFUL in our new venture. Mind you, I have been part of multiple MLM's, I do believe that they can be a great vehicle for prosperity, but I HAVE NEVER TRULY SUCCEEDED. That brings me to today, having discovered the ROOT ERROR in my thinking...OMG...I am so thankful that I am AWARE OF MY FINANCIAL BLUEPRINT, before the RV....I DO NOT WANT to be in the HUGE group of people that never receive FINANCIAL FREEDOM!!! Or in the group that only has it for a very short time (like the majority of big lottery winners). Yes, the first step is that I HAVE BECOME AWARE that I have a lot of learning to do, and am diligently persuing A NEW SET OF FINANCIAL beliefs and actions...I am writing this today because I suspect that there are MANY,MANY fellow Dinarians here that may be in the same, or similar place in their THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS. I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW GRATEFUL I AM THAT I HAVE RECOGNIZED THE NEED I HAVE...What if the RV had already happened, given my very recent MONEY BLUEPRINT, I VERY LIKELY would have had a great amount of wealth for a very short time!!! Well, that's NOT IN MY CURRENT PLAN!! The point here is, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT YOUR FINANCIAL HISTORY, ARE YOU LIKE ME OR IS YOUR THERMOSTAT ALREADY SET FOR THE WEALTH YOU ARE GOING TO REAP? No doubt there are many here also that have their FINANCIAL THERMOSTAT SET HIGH! GOD BLESS YOU! Fantastic... For the rest of us...PLEASE CONSIDER the above. I am speaking from the teachings of a very well known best selling author...I am not sure if it is allowed for me to specifically say who he is here. I would be more than happy to share it if it is o.k., maybe a mod will see this and let me know. In closing, and thank you in advance to those that will read this and perhaps respond. TAKE THE TIME WE HAVE PRE RV to DEEPLY CONSIDER where you are in the category of MONEY, the relationship you have with it...It is not to late to change your thinking if that is what is needed! My heart here is to bring awareness to those that may not have considered these matters, as well as to hear from those that have already MASTERED THIS SUBJECT. Regards, Wealthhound
    3 points
  29. Forgive me if this has been posted already. I scrolled but didn't see it yet. United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon intended to attend the Arab League (AL) summit scheduled to be held in Baghdad late in March, an Iraqi official newspaper reported Thursday. "United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, high-level officials of international organizations and foreign ambassadors intended to attend the opening session of the Baghdad Arab summit on March 29," the state-run newspaper al-Sabah quoted unnamed Arab sources as saying. Iraqi Minister of Foreign Affairs Hoshyar Zebari met Wednesday with ambassadors of Arab countries to Baghdad and explained to them Baghdad's logistic and security preparations for the summit which will be preceded by a meeting for Arab economy ministers on March 27, while the foreign ministers will meet on March 28. Zebari also confirmed that "Iraq is intending to send envoys on the level of ministers to submit official invitation letters to the Arab kings and presidents to attend the summit." Earlier, Iraqi deputy foreign minister Labid Abbawi told local media that "all the (Arab) countries confirmed their participation on highest levels in the summit." However, Abbawi said that "there might be exception from some countries for reasons of their own, but we have received promises that if the heads of the countries would not attend the summit they will be represented by highest level officials." Iraqi authorities also announced that the day of the summit will be an official holiday and security measures will be tightened in the capital to avoid any possible security deterioration. Early in February, AL Deputy Secretary General Ahmed bin Helli announced during his visit to Iraq that Baghdad will host the Arab summit on March 29. The Arab summit was initially scheduled to be held in Baghdad in 2011, but was postponed to March 2012 due to the unrest in the region. Link
    3 points
  30. Caution folks. There is already a master registry that has all the serial numbers of all the notes and it's called the CBI. I am not encouraging any decisions here for we are all grown folks and make our own decisions but ask yourself why? Why would you want to register a serial number with a database that can be used for the purpose that it is inteded or worse, for ulterior motives? IMMHO and I think is a bad idea. I would not do it. Thank you for your post and the great find. GLTA and Go RV.
    3 points
  31. For some reason I think these should be taken together.
    3 points
  32. Yes, He Is CNN's Notorious Water Balloon Assassin ! Coincidentally Elixirbaby Will Mixing Us Drinks At The Post RV Party In Vegas Called "Mind Erasers" - But I Can't Remember Whats In Them ! :D
    3 points
  33. I would say, I have been here long enough to know who's who among OFF TOPIC posters. When I first log on in the morning, I do a quick search for relevant dinar news and then it's a bee line for off topics. I quickly scan the topics, then head to the bottom of the page to see who's ready to go round and round. brandon, TPS, scrum, 40 and all the rest (you all know who you are). You all know I don't bring documented info to this site. I tend to rely on you all for info and links....just plain lazy I guess. I just wanted to say I really appreciate everybody here and enjoy reading and debating the different topics. My eyes have been opened, even if I am still referred to as a sheep, by some. Not real sure why I started this topic. I just felt like saying "Hey". GO RV, then BV
    3 points
  34. It is unfortunate to see the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) morph into an External Agency looking to capitalize on monies not due them for they were not made in the US, just the misfortune of being in the cross-hairs of governmental greed and only applied to American Citizens. This is only the beginning, for those account holders who have a substantial amount of undeclared monies. Once that is over, mark my words, they will go after the little guy. Thank you for your post. GLTA and Go RV.
    3 points
  35. Like I said, "give me a RATIONAL explination." I haven't heard one yet. What you have just told me is incoherent. So..., what you are saying is that RP supporters would rather blow up the whole process for the rest of us and accelerate the demise of this country because RP will not be elected. Whaooo!! Can you imagine if we all had that kind of mentality? Just give up and go down with the BOMB only because someone is throwing a temper tantrum! There are many of us who still have faith and trust in a system we can still control and fix and all you guys want to do is throw your hands up in the air because you didn't get your way! SAD....Whaooo!!!! Like I said before you folks are just as complicite as obama in destroying this country if this is the way RP supporters think. Anyone else want to give me/us another explination?
    3 points
  36. When that rate moved those four little "PIPs" I thought I was gonna have a stroke. One divided by 1170 equals 0.000854. And one divided by 1166 equals $0.000857. If they "remove the three zeroes" from the exchange rate, $0.000857 becomes 86 cents. And I remember Delta saying even last April that his CBI relative/contact told him the rate would originate at 86 cents per one dinar and rise from there. Everyone called him crazy, but it looks like he might have be on to something
    3 points
  37. Who knew we had the guys from Big Bang Theory on here??? LOL...seriously loved this whole thread even though my befogged brain shut down very quickly during the first set of numbers....
    3 points
  38. The thing that I can tell people till I'm BLUE IN THE FACE and just get dumb stares or even outright attacks is....... THERE IS NO MONEY or YOU ARE MONEY Even though I can explain it in 5 minutes and even show folks the proof... they just can't wrap their heads around it. The day will come soon when everyone will stop believeing that there IS money (well, the stuff we all call money today) and ya know what will happen - it will dissappear (technically - lose value and become worthless) I hope folks have a plan - have trades they can use - have reserves of true valuables - and have lots of non GMO Food seeds... Greg
    3 points
  39. Thanks for the Humor! +1 BTW - Astronomers only know the number of stars that "have existed" Not how many exist! As you say, as time goes on and observations continue, more stars will be found A N D that Old, Old light from more and more stars will finally reveal that they actually went supernova or collapsed 1-3 Billion Years ago and were not even there during the first observation! What is worse, is that the speed of light was predicted to be slower than the rate of expansion of the universe. If that is true, then if we ARE in an oscillating universe (Instead of an expanding one or one in stasis) and it IS going to collapse, that same speed differential will be true on the back-side and the light from the old stars will block from view the approaching wave of violet shifted light caused by the oncoming collapse until it is all too late! I wrote a paper on that and even did a power-point animation to demonstrate! Best! Greg
    3 points
  40. Greg I gave your post some serious thought while reading it and deciffering it in my head. I have been reading the same thing on here for about 3 years and I think you may have hit the nail just about on the head. My next question is Greg....When the Hell is this RV to happen?
    3 points
  41. This is supposed to be a FAMILY FRIENDLY for ALL AGES website. I realize you are overseas, perhaps you have forgotten how to act in public. If you don't like the censorship, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST SOMEWHERE ELSE! YOU have already been warned and counseled about this before. PLEASE FOLLOW FORUM RULES! -
    3 points
  42. Thanks Crossfire, I had no idea who this person was. It is good to see Maliki has a female advisor. However when you think about it, it is typical of our own presidents and his hired PR people. They essentially ward off criticisms of the president or his decisions or what he ate for lunch. "Sir the people are complaining they have no food!" President or someone like him, "I'm busy can't you see that? Send the PR team out!" Bob(in a suit), "You would have food but the Republicans don't like broccoli....and so that's why you have no food. Blame it on the elephants!"
    3 points
  43. She's just an advisor to the PM...(an adviser to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki)...proper name is Maryam al-Rayes, Zig, but I'd sure love to start seeing less news quotes coming from people who are NOT official spokes persons. I know it'd help us research the facts and not waste time trying to distinguish the legitimate quotes from the fodder. That's essentially what I see this article stating, anyway.Reads almost like a retraction of previous comments and affimation of others.
    3 points
  44. Where did you get Cisole's baby pic ?
    3 points
  45. First off... necessity is the mother of all inventions... this one is brilliant! Never underestimate the power of the creative mind... no matter what income level it comes from. Thanks for the post travillin man! You may be right krome... but one thought... the lid isn't sealed, just screwed shut...right? Couldn't they just unscrew the lid and add more chlorine? Or worst case... suction out the water and replace it, or break the seal on the sealant and redo it. Yeah, some minimal maintenance for sure... but think of the economical advantages, and improved quality of life. I think if you really get creative without some big greedy company standing in the way you could come up with all kinds of innovative economical ways to save energy and improve life... end of story!
    3 points
  46. Please do not get offended but a write in vote for Ron Paul will be a vote for Obama.
    3 points


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