Pitcher Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 All good points Utah, if you are an Obama supporter. I voted for Obama the first time, I liked the hope and change message. When he and his fellow Democrats crammed the healthcare bill down America’s throat, I became an instant non supporter. How about the shovel ready work bill they crammed through Congress his first month. 980B shovel ready jobs, remember. Mmm. That was a slight of hand to put that in the budget and then he and his Dems never submitted a budget, for 8 years!! Once that money is in the budget it’s there unit it is taken out. No budget, it stays and it became a piggy bank for Dem causes and payback for his supporters. Reps do the same BS. The first thing I disagree with you is. “Obama is not the reason why we are in the situation we are in today”. When Obama moved our troops out of Iraq, Isis moved in. That is the reason Iran was allowed to enter Iraq, to help Iraq fight Isis. Nice Trojan Horse Utah. The Nuclear Deal was an appeasement and showed great weakness which Iran took advantage of. We have plenty of Allies, Saudi, Jordan, UAE, Kuwait, Israel, Egypt, and more. Obama all but abandoned our oldest ally, Israel. The Obama Administration stableized the economy with the help of QE, 1-4 and running up a 9 trillion dollar debt. His policies were anti business. His recovery could have been very good but they put burdensome taxes and ridiculous regulations on companies that made many many companies bolt for overseas locations. As a result he is the only President to not have a 3% growth for at least 1 quarter. Under Obama we hit the highest number of people on disability and unemployment. Housing starts were at 50 year lows, and could go on and on. I could care care less what books Obama read, he didn’t read his bible, and insulted Christians with his famous quote about us holding onto our guns and bibles. I appreciate your service, anyone who puts on a uniform and serves our country is ok in my book. I served as well. I don’t hate you, Obama, or anyone really. That’s bad mojo and I don’t have time for it. I respect your views and you coming on to tell me your thoughts. I think you take my dislike of Dems personally. Don’t, I don’t like most Reps either. I’ve worked in both Political Parties, especially Clinton’s in the 90’s. I call things the way I see em. Yes I’m full of it from time to time and I get a little nutty when it comes to politics, mostly because I know the inter workings of campaigns and I know the dirt. I’ll try to tone down my rants but I’m not going to stop disliking what the Dems are preaching, Socialism, sanctuary cities, illegals invading our country, etc. I’m not a huge fan of Trump, especially his tweets but the Dems are not giving me a choice the way I see it. Thats enough for now. We can continue later. Thanks for speaking up in a civil manner. 6 4 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcher Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Why the Reds. Just talk, debate, discuss your views. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChuckFinley Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Pitcher said: All good points Utah, if you are an Obama supporter. I voted for Obama the first time, I liked the hope and change message. When he and his fellow Democrats crammed the healthcare bill down America’s throat, I became an instant non supporter. How about the shovel ready work bill they crammed through Congress his first month. 980B shovel ready jobs, remember. Mmm. That was a slight of hand to put that in the budget and then he and his Dems never submitted a budget, for 8 years!! Once that money is in the budget it’s there unit it is taken out. No budget, it stays and it became a piggy bank for Dem causes and payback for his supporters. Reps do the same BS. The first thing I disagree with you is. “Obama is not the reason why we are in the situation we are in today”. When Obama moved our troops out of Iraq, Isis moved in. That is the reason Iran was allowed to enter Iraq, to help Iraq fight Isis. Nice Trojan Horse Utah. The Nuclear Deal was an appeasement and showed great weakness which Iran took advantage of. We have plenty of Allies, Saudi, Jordan, UAE, Kuwait, Israel, Egypt, and more. Obama all but abandoned our oldest ally, Israel. The Obama Administration stableized the economy with the help of QE, 1-4 and running up a 9 trillion dollar debt. His policies were anti business. His recovery could have been very good but they put burdensome taxes and ridiculous regulations on companies that made many many companies bolt for overseas locations. As a result he is the only President to not have a 3% growth for at least 1 quarter. Under Obama we hit the highest number of people on disability and unemployment. Housing starts were at 50 year lows, and could go on and on. I could care care less what books Obama read, he didn’t read his bible, and insulted Christians with his famous quote about us holding onto our guns and bibles. I appreciate your service, anyone who puts on a uniform and serves our country is ok in my book. I served as well. I don’t hate you, Obama, or anyone really. That’s bad mojo and I don’t have time for it. I respect your views and you coming on to tell me your thoughts. I think you take my dislike of Dems personally. Don’t, I don’t like most Reps either. I’ve worked in both Political Parties, especially Clinton’s in the 90’s. I call things the way I see em. Yes I’m full of it from time to time and I get a little nutty when it comes to politics, mostly because I know the inter workings of campaigns and I know the dirt. I’ll try to tone down my rants but I’m not going to stop disliking what the Dems are preaching, Socialism, sanctuary cities, illegals invading our country, etc. I’m not a huge fan of Trump, especially his tweets but the Dems are not giving me a choice the way I see it. Thats enough for now. We can continue later. Thanks for speaking up in a civil manner. Well, spot on there Pitcher. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckFinley Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Pitcher said: Why the Reds. Just talk, debate, discuss your views. Easier to push the button. I have often asked the same thing. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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davis411 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, 6ly410 said: The US president noted that his country will not leave Iraq without being paid back for its military investments over the years. Well i have a idea how to pay back quickly then troops go home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md11fr8dawg Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Utah, thanks for your service. I am sure you are a nice guy and have good intentions, but your reasoning about Obama is delusional. You are sugar coating his 8 years or seeing it through rose colored glasses. Pitcher covered most of the flaws of your reasoning so I will not repeat, except to say I could add to his list by double. Sorry, but you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shiite!!! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 06-01-2020 02:44 PM Sheikh Ali: The Iraqi Penal Code is ready for Trump to sign Baghdad - news Deputy parliamentarian Faik Sheikh Ali, Monday, confirmed that the US sanctions on Iraq are ready before US President Donald Trump. Sheikh Ali said in a tweet on "Twitter": "Honorable Iraqis: I regret to inform you that the decision to impose US sanctions on Iraq was written by the specialized committee while he is at President Trump's table for his signature." And he added: "O Shiite politicians from the transgressions, whom America bored you from the streets and greeted you with the rule: Trump is waiting for you from one vile act, so that the earth will be lost to you!" http://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=206404 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 06-01-2020 02:36 PM Political analyst: The end of the American presence in the country warns of great risks on the Iraqi issue Baghdad / news Political analyst Wael Al-Rikabi believes that ending the US presence, if wisdom abides by it, threatens great dangers for Iraq. He said in a statement, “If the government adheres to this decision and endeavors to end the American presence in the country, this portends great dangers on the Iraqi issue. , Or keep it for its own use. " Al-Rikabi added, "The Iraqi situation is currently not eligible for such a fateful decision, in addition to the foreign presence is to support and train Iraqi forces, and there are joint programs between Iraq and the United States for long-term, such as training on F-16 aircraft, which makes all these partnerships exposed." To collapse. " http://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=206402 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 20 hours ago, Butifldrm said: Al-Sadr: We call on the resistance factions to meet immediately to announce the formation of the international resistance 17:24 - 01/05/2020 0 https://www.almaalomah.com/2020/01/05/447929/ Close to the chest issued an explanation on the formation of "international resistance" 10:21 - 06/01/2020 0 The information / Baghdad .. The account of Saleh Muhammad al-Iraqi, close to the leader of the Sadrist movement , Muqtada al-Sadr , was published on Monday regarding Sadr’s latest call to form international regiments to deter American attacks. And the Iraqi said in his post on Facebook and saw him (the information), that "yesterday a tweet was posted for his permission and here I would like to show some important things about it: not to start military action until we have exhausted all political and parliamentary methods ... and until then you have to be patient and ready", stressing that " The Peace Brigades are not included in the meeting of the Iraqi factions and others. He added that "everyone who commences military action now does not represent us ... and they must spare civilians the danger, otherwise it is forbidden but rather forbidden", noting that "the call for the faction meeting should not be sectarian, just as the Iraqi factions are not entitled to work outside Iraq, nor are the factions other than Iraqi work inside Iraq . ” He continued, "We thank the response of some factions to the invitation to their meeting, but His Eminence did not mean that he is a leader on them ... Rather, unite your command and unite the decision and do not separate", pointing out that "boycotting American products does not include what can be used in favor of Iraq from the necessary technological matters other than agricultural and industrial products. ” https://www.almaalomah.com/2020/01/06/448006/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Follow-up Monday, January 06, 2020 1:59 PM Harb: The parliament’s decision to bring out foreign forces is like a farce to absorb anger FacebookTwitterEmailWhatsApp Legal expert Tariq Harb emphasized that the parliament’s decision to remove foreign forces from the country has no legal effect because it did not restrict its implementation in time and left the matter to the government, which is more like a farce in order to absorb anger. He added, "Harb" in press statements, that "the speaker did not clarify the number of voters, the number of those who said yes and the number of those who said no, and that a law should have been issued and not a decision." https://www.thebaghdadpost.com/ar/Story/186286/حرب-قرار-البرلمان-بإخراج-القوات-الأجنبية-أشبه-بمسرحية-هزلية-لامتصاص-الغضب 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 06-01-2020 04:16 PM Parliamentary Finance: Removing the American forces will not lead to any economic deterioration in Iraq Baghdad - news The Parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed, on Monday, that the removal of American forces from Iraq will not affect the economic situation, noting that it will not lead to any deterioration. The Chairman of the Committee, Haitham Al-Jubouri, said in a statement received by "Al-Akhbariya", that "the strategic framework agreement (Iraqi - American) that was approved in 2008 is still valid and we are committed to it and are not affected by the decision issued by Parliament yesterday, as it focused on ending the presence The foreign military only and with a timetable prepared by the Iraqi government according to the readiness of our armed forces and the estimates of the General Command and in coordination with those countries, which does not affect the nature of our relations with them, especially that the mission of the presence of these forces has ended after the elimination of the state of ISIS. Al-Jubouri added: "Therefore, there is no concern about any deterioration in the economic situation, and we are in contact with all relevant authorities on this issue and are keen to maintain economic relations with all countries, including the United States, and in a way that serves the interests of our country in terms of security and economic, especially that There are major investment contracts between the two countries in important and strategic sectors that affect the economy and the daily life of the Iraqi citizen. " 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Monday January 6 2020 04:09 pm | Views: 52 Jubouri: The Strategic Framework Agreement with America is in effect and is not affected by the parliament’s decision Baghdad / .. The head of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, Haitham Al-Jubouri, confirmed today, Monday, that the strategic framework agreement approved in 2008 is still in effect, while he indicated that it is not affected by the parliament’s decision yesterday. Al-Jubouri said in a statement, "The Strategic Framework Agreement (Iraq - America) that was approved in 2008 is still valid and we are committed to it," noting that it "is not affected by the decision issued by Parliament yesterday, as it focused on ending the foreign military presence only and with a timetable that it prepares." The Iraqi government is in accordance with the readiness of our armed forces and the estimates of the General Command in coordination with those countries, which does not affect the nature of our relations with them in particular. " He added, "The mission of the presence of these forces has ended after the elimination of the state of the ISIS myth," calling for "not to be concerned about any deterioration in the economic situation." The deputy pointed out, "We are in contact with all the relevant authorities on this issue and are keen to maintain economic relations with all countries, including the United States, and in a way that serves the interests of our country in terms of security and economic, especially since there are large investment contracts between the two countries in important and strategic sectors affecting the economy and life." Everyday for the Iraqi citizen. " 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 06-01-2020 04:14 PM Deputy: Parliament will legislate a law that abolishes the security agreement with the United States and will not be satisfied with yesterday's decision Baghdad - news A deputy in the House of Representatives confirmed today, Monday, that Parliament intends to legislate a law that abolishes the security agreement with the United States, noting that it will not be satisfied with the decision to withdraw the request for assistance that the government committed at its session yesterday. Haneen Qaddo, a member of the Al-Fateh Alliance, told Al-Akhbaria that after the parliament’s vote, we will work to follow up the implementation of these important decisions by the relevant government agencies. He added: "The political forces are determined to cancel the security agreement with the United States, and work to legislate a law that quickly abolishes it. We will not be satisfied with these decisions only," noting that "there is a parliamentary parliamentary agreement to end the foreign presence in Iraq." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 06-01-2020 01:49 PM Deputy: The government did not put an end to the armed breaches in order for the American forces to leave Iraq Baghdad / news The MP, Salim Hamza, confirmed on Monday that the government did not put an end to armed violations in order for the American forces to leave Iraq. Hamza said in a statement to "Al-Ikhbaria", that "there are no guarantees for the removal of American forces from Iraq in light of the spread of dozens of armed groups loyal to Iran absolutely." He explained that "the government was unable to put an end to terrorist or armed violations of these groups in order for the American forces to leave." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 06-01-2020 12:26 PM Al-Hashemi: The removal of the American forces needs the decision of the government, not parliament Baghdad / news The head of the Iraqi Group for Strategic Policy, Wathiq al-Hashemi, noted that the removal of US forces needs the decision of the government, not parliament. He said in a press statement, "The decision to remove the foreign forces present in Iraq needed a government decision and not a decision by Parliament." He added: "Since Adel Abdul-Mahdi is resigned and head of the caretaker government, he may have thought that he should refer the ball to Parliament." Analysts point out that the source of the confusion in the parliament’s decision is that the American forces came at the invitation of the Iraqi government that allowed the international coalition since 2014 to fight on Iraqi soil to eliminate the terrorist organization ISIS, as well as that there is a strategic framework agreement that was signed in 2008 Between US President George W. Bush and former Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, and was activated in 2011 after the withdrawal of all American forces in 2011. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Parliamentary Finance: The Strategic Framework Agreement is in effect and is not affected by the Parliament's decision Policy 2020-01-06 | 08:11 Source: Alsumaria news 13,426 views The Parliamentary Finance Committee announced, on Monday, that the strategic framework agreement approved in the year 2008 is still in force, while he indicated that it is not affected by the parliament’s decision yesterday. The committee said in a statement received by Alsumaria News, a copy of it that "the strategic framework agreement (Iraqi - American) that was approved in the year 2008 is still valid and we are committed to it," noting that "it is not affected by the decision issued by parliament yesterday, as it focused on ending the presence The foreign military only and with a timetable prepared by the Iraqi government according to the readiness of our armed forces and the estimates of the General Command in coordination with those countries, which does not affect the nature of our relations with them in particular. She added, "The mission of the presence of these forces has ended after the elimination of the state of the ISIS myth," calling for "not to be concerned about any deterioration in the economic situation." She stressed, "We are in contact with all relevant authorities on this issue and are keen to maintain economic relations with all countries, including the United States, and in a manner that serves the interest of our country in terms of security and economic, especially since there are large investment contracts between the two countries in important and strategic sectors that affect the economy and the daily life of the citizen." Iraqi. " The House of Representatives approved the government’s mandate to end the presence of foreign forces on the country’s territory, in response to the assassination of Soleimani, commander of the Qods Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and deputy chief of the PMF Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DoD Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Butifldrm said: Close to the chest issued an explanation on the formation of "international resistance" 10:21 - 06/01/2020 0 al-Sadr, do you sleep well at night now days? Remember that fire from the sky can hit you at anytime an anywhere... After seeing the remains of that convoy at Baghdad International Airport I wouldn’t stray very far from Tehran an your fellow terriorist... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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