6ly410 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Iraq's Sistani Urges Government to Heed Demonstrators BasNews 04/10/2019 - 15:20 Published in Iraq http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/iraq/551018 ERBIL - Iraq's revered Shiite spiritual leader Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani has called on the government to heed protesters "before it's too late." Sistani's call was conveyed by a representative on the fourth day of protests in Iraq, on which, he said that the government "must do what it can to improve public services, find work for the unemployed, end clientelism, deal with the corruption issue and send those implicated in it to prison," as cited by Middle East Online. "The government must change its approach in dealing with the country's problems," the cleric said, also pointing out that the lawmakers also bear a heavy responsibility. He argued that a special committee should be formed to address the problems in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justchecking123 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 13 hours ago, Pitcher said: I agree LB. It’s my opinion that as long as Iran controls as many Iraqi politicians as it does you will not see an Ri/RV. Especially with Iran under US Sanctions. The auctions and US dollars are financing both Iran and Iraqi leadership. Corruption is out of control and a huge issue. Co-sign. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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umbertino Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Iraq protests: police open fire on demonstrators as death toll rises – video Security forces in Iraq opened fire on protesters in Baghdad despite the prime minister’s plea for calm and promise of reform. The protests, which have been fuelled by rage over poor living standards and alleged corruption.......... Fri 4 Oct 2019 16.29 BST https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2019/oct/04/iraq-protests-police-open-fire-demonstrators-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinarham Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Umbertino , please do not think that I am insencetive to the enormous suffering of the Iraqi people . Imagine having Saddam ,then all out war ,then Isis . Young adults have never known peace in .their entire lives . This is not about the rv ,this is about an entire nation rebuilding itself after decades of suffering . Just sayin' , look at the civil war the race riots .,the divisivness during Vietnam , the criminality of our past administration ,and the US is still here ,and we've gone through some sh+t as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, dinarham said: Umbertino , please do not think that I am insencetive to the enormous suffering of the Iraqi people . Imagine having Saddam ,then all out war ,then Isis . Young adults have never known peace in .their entire lives . This is not about the rv ,this is about an entire nation rebuilding itself after decades of suffering . Just sayin' , look at the civil war the race riots .,the divisivness during Vietnam , the criminality of our past administration ,and the US is still here ,and we've gone through some sh+t as well I never said that....I'm sure you're not (insensitive) Thanks for your explanation....Appreciated Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Corruption won't be solved by 'wishing it away', Iraqi government warned Iraq PM’s adviser claims violent protests can only be addressed by tackling corruption head-on Patrick Wintour Diplomatic editor Thu 3 Oct 2019 18.33 BST https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/03/corruption-wont-be-solved-by-wishing-it-away-iraqi-government-warned Corruption is like a cancer...Eating up everything and anything...I do know (unfortunately) because there's a lot of that in my Country ( and we're talking Europe with a fair level of general good, fair living)....The experience here shows that (sadly) many or most folks esp in Politics ( no matter how wealthy/rich they may already be) are corruptible....Very few are capable, have the nuts of saying "NO" So I really can't imagine the monstrous situation of a Country like IRAQ when it comes to that....... Takes a lot of courage, determination and goodwill in order to start a serious cleanup.....If ever.......We'll see.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochester Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 I don't support violence, but the British Monarch would not listen to the American Patriots either. It's sad that Iraqis have to go through this, it's sad the loss of life, but if better people were leading Iraq, this would not be necessary. Guess what? Better people are not leading Iraq....and everyone here knows it. What language do corrupt elites understand? Violence. The corruption of the elites in Iraq, the damage they do to their own people is a million times worse than the riots. There are no magical solutions here. But what there are, is non-magical solutions, like getting an oil law passed, making compromises with opponents, opening up to foreign investment and revaluing their currency. Other Arab countries in the region did a few simple reforms and now they are rich. You don't need magic to make Iraq rich. You just need to do a few obvious things, like the things on the list of demands of the protesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreis Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 One of the biggest problem with fighting corruption is having the ability to protect the families of the honest investigators, law enforcement and judicial personnel that tack on the job of putting these well financed thieves in jail or the gallows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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6ly410 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Sadr demands Iraqi government’s resignation, new elections 8 minutes ago | 52 Views Karwan Faidhi Dri https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/041020195 Iraqi protesters take cover during a demonstration against state corruption, failing public services, and unemployment, in the Iraqi capital Baghdad's central Khellani Square on October 4, 2019. Photo: Ahmad al-Rubaye/AFP ERBIL, Kurdistan – Influential Iraqi cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has called on Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi and his government to resign and make way for new elections in order to meet the demands of protesters after four days of demonstrations across central and southern Iraq that have left at least 43 people dead. An analyst, however, says that returning to the ballot box just a year into Abdul-Mahdi’s term will not deliver the structural reforms that protesters in the streets are demanding. "I call on the government to hand over their resignation immediately,” Sadr declared in a statement Friday evening. “I also call for an early and fair election, monitored by the international community. We cannot remain silent with all these martyrs and bloodshed." Spontaneous protests broke out on Tuesday in Baghdad and quickly spread throughout multiple provinces. Demonstrators are demanding action tackling high youth unemployment, poverty, poor services, and corruption. Security forces have met the protests with force, using live ammunition, tear gas, and water cannons. According to the latest figures from the Iraqi High Commission for Human Rights (IHCHR), 43 people have died and 2,029 have been wounded, including both protesters and security personnel. Some 481 protesters have been detained, with 314 of them released. Among the dead are four – two civilians and two security personnel – shot by “unidentified snipers” in Baghdad, according to the Security Media Cell. Parliament Speaker Mohammed al-Halbousi condemned the violence in a press conference on Friday evening, calling for a “swift investigation to hold responsible those who attacked the protesters.” Numerous factions with the parliament have announced they are suspending their participation in the legislature as a pressure tactic to force the government to develop a plan to address the protesters’ demands. "In support of the popular movement that rejects corruption and the violation of people's rights, the National Axis Alliance announces the suspension of its lawmakers in the Iraqi parliament until reaching a serious position with the rest of political blocs,” the group of Sunni parties said in a statement issued not long after Sadr’s Sayirun bloc made a similar announcement. "We call on the prime minister to have an applicable agenda for his government, which includes economic reforms and prioritizes the needs of people,” Hassan al-Aquli, head of the Sayirun bloc, said in press conference in Baghdad. If the prime minister submits an agenda to parliament that meets the demands of protesters, then they will return to the legislature, he added. MP Sarkawt Shams called for the government to draw up a 12-month strategy for “radical change,” tweeting, “There is no purpose to Parliament’s sessions if it is not to meet the demand of the demonstrators.” Speaker Halbousi described the protests as a "lesson" for all political parties that the demands of the protesters have not been met in the past and will not be met in the future, "unless there is a real procedural revolution." "We need a real revolution to fight corruption the same way our security, civilian, religious, and political powers stood against [the Islamic State, ISIS],” he said. "The danger of corruption is no less than the danger of terrorism." The international community has called on the Iraqi government to open a dialogue in order to get at the root problems that drive people into the streets to protest. “This is an opportunity for dialogue,” Stephan Dujarric, spokesperson for UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, told Rudaw. “The grievances that the people are demonstrating about need to be addressed. And again this should be used as an opportunity for dialogue to find a political solution to the problems.” Amnesty International tweeted: “Instead of facing the protesters with excessive force, the Iraqi government must address the grievances of the protesters and the root cause of the unrest in a sustainable way.” Those root causes are a “systemic failure,” Bilal Wahab, Iraqi analyst and Wagner Fellow at The Washington Institute for Near East Policy, told Rudaw English. “It’s a failure of the political and economic system in providing services and jobs, which are the two main demands of the protesters.” Since the first elections post-Saddam Hussein in 2005, the same political parties have stayed in power using “corruption and patronage,” including hiring people, controlling the media, and arming militias, he explained. Holding a vote won’t change that. “Elections change faces without really changing the system. The system can provide jobs and perks to a few, but cannot create services and economic prosperity,” said Wahab. “The government is literally running out of jobs that they can offer people. Population growth is high and the government cannot catch up. So this system has basically reached its end and it cannot function anymore.” “Salvaging this situation requires some bold short term acts, prosecute those who shot the protestors, act on the corruption court cases, and start reconstruction projects to put people to work,” he explained. And in the long term, “the government needs to present a credible roadmap for reforming the election system and the economy, and tough acts against corruption – all with time frames and milestones.” “The Iraqi government knows what needs to be done — they have best of local and international advisors. But reform goes against the entrenched political interests of those in power.” The powerful are fortified in this system that is failing to meet the expectations of the public, especially the youth, Wahab noted. “Iraq’s youth, who don’t know Saddam Hussein, are post-sectarian, they see that their country is wealthy but they are poor – they’re upset, they’re angry, they’re disappointed, and they’re willing to go to the streets to shout, die or resort to violence if pushed harder.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ly410 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Sadr Calls for Government's Resignation as Protests Intensified BasNews 05/10/2019 - 00:01 Published in Iraq http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/iraq/551082 ERBIL - Iraqi powerful Shia cleric and leader of Sairoon Alliance, Muqtada al-Sadr, called on Friday for the government to resign as protests across the country have intensified against corruption and lack of services. He also called for an early election to be held in Iraq as over 40 people have been killed and nearly 2,000 were injured in the past four days during clashes between the protesters and the security forces. The Radio Free Europe cited a statement by Sadr as saying that the "government should resign and early elections should be held under UN supervision" so as to avoid further violence. Sadr earlier the day, called on MPs of his Sairoon Alliance to suspend their activities at the Parliament until the government introduces a new agenda that would serve all Iraqis. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, alreis said: One of the biggest problem with fighting corruption is having the ability to protect the families of the honest investigators, law enforcement and judicial personnel that tack on the job of putting these well financed thieves in jail or the gallows. Yes....Probably some of the tough ones in trying to achieve the corruption cleanup (law enforcement and magistrates) will be killed.....Hopefully not all of them...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eighty227 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Al-Tamimi (Tigris): An emergency government will be formed for one year in order to conduct business Hastily - 05-10-2019 12:15 AM - Readings: 361 http://www.dijlah.tv/index.php?page=article&id=241722 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dijlah.tv%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3Darticle%26id%3D241722 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eighty227 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Tamimi (Tigris): President of the Republic will replace Abdul Mahdi in addition to his position Hastily - 05-10-2019 12:22 AM - Readings: 485 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dijlah.tv%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3Darticle%26id%3D241726 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnytex Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 I will need to see this in 3 more articles before I bite 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaygo Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, Gunnytex said: I will need to see this in 3 more articles before I bite Yep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg1 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Please, put shabibi in his place. lol. Then have him throw malarky in prison. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg1 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Where are they going to find government official replacements that aren't corrupt in Iraq? 🤔🙄😣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepguy Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, jg1 said: Please, put shabibi in his place. lol. Then have him throw malarky in prison. 2nd that vote! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ly410 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Abdul Mahdi commented on Sistani's speech and made a number of pledge 2019/10/04 10:51:01 https://www.shafaaq.com/ar/سیاسة/عبد-المهدي-يعلق-على-خطبة-السيستاني-وي-صدر-جملة-تعهدات/ Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi announced on Friday his commitment to the initiative of the supreme authority in Najaf to carry out reforms, and to consult with the committees formed by them. Abdul Mahdi said in a statement today that "the government with all its institutions commits itself before God Almighty and the supreme religious authority and the authentic Iraqi people to carry out their duties and provide practical programs and do everything possible to alleviate the suffering of citizens and improve public services and provide job opportunities for the unemployed and away from favoritism in government appointments Complement the files of the defendants to manipulate and acquire public funds in preparation for bringing them to justice. "The government is committed to the highest degree of transparency and wide consultation to submit the names of the committee, as proposed by the Office of the Supreme Religious Authority on August 7, 2015. The definition of the means of operation in line with the sermon." "The government calls on the legislative and judicial authorities to work together, cooperate and coordinate in their respective competencies and powers to implement the curricula and plans required by all within a clear timetable in order to achieve the required reforms," he said. The Prime Minister called on the government "the major political forces in the country to cooperate with each other, and therefore with the government, to provide the conditions of reform and all its requirements to move forward according to the approach proposed by the Supreme Religious Authority, which I have long stated, which we have all adhered to." The office of the religious authority Ali al-Sistani called for the formation of a special committee to determine steps to combat corruption and reform. The representative of the Marjaiya Ahmad Al-Safi read the statement of Sistani's office in the Friday sermon in Karbala. From outside the power of those who hold credibility and know high efficiency and complete integrity. " "This committee is tasked with identifying steps to combat corruption and achieve the desired reform, provided that its members are allowed to be informed of the current situation and to meet with influential actors in the country, especially the representatives of demonstrations in the rest of the provinces to listen to their demands and views," he said. "If the committee completes its work and determines the required legislative, executive or judicial steps, they will be activated through its legal field, even with the help of popular and reference support," he said. "This proposal has not been adopted at the time and its adoption at this time may be an appropriate approach to overcome the current ordeal. We hope that reason and logic and the interest of the country will prevail for those in positions of responsibility and decision-making to get things done before it is too late, and we hope that everyone is aware of the serious repercussions." In the use of violence and counter-violence in the ongoing protest movement. " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg1 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 6ly410 said: Abdul Mahdi commented on Sistani's speech and made a number of pledge 2019/10/04 10:51:01 https://www.shafaaq.com/ar/سیاسة/عبد-المهدي-يعلق-على-خطبة-السيستاني-وي-صدر-جملة-تعهدات/ Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi announced on Friday his commitment to the initiative of the supreme authority in Najaf to carry out reforms, and to consult with the committees formed by them. Abdul Mahdi said in a statement today that "the government with all its institutions commits itself before God Almighty and the supreme religious authority and the authentic Iraqi people to carry out their duties and provide practical programs and do everything possible to alleviate the suffering of citizens and improve public services and provide job opportunities for the unemployed and away from favoritism in government appointments Complement the files of the defendants to manipulate and acquire public funds in preparation for bringing them to justice. "The government is committed to the highest degree of transparency and wide consultation to submit the names of the committee, as proposed by the Office of the Supreme Religious Authority on August 7, 2015. The definition of the means of operation in line with the sermon." "The government calls on the legislative and judicial authorities to work together, cooperate and coordinate in their respective competencies and powers to implement the curricula and plans required by all within a clear timetable in order to achieve the required reforms," he said. The Prime Minister called on the government "the major political forces in the country to cooperate with each other, and therefore with the government, to provide the conditions of reform and all its requirements to move forward according to the approach proposed by the Supreme Religious Authority, which I have long stated, which we have all adhered to." The office of the religious authority Ali al-Sistani called for the formation of a special committee to determine steps to combat corruption and reform. The representative of the Marjaiya Ahmad Al-Safi read the statement of Sistani's office in the Friday sermon in Karbala. From outside the power of those who hold credibility and know high efficiency and complete integrity. " "This committee is tasked with identifying steps to combat corruption and achieve the desired reform, provided that its members are allowed to be informed of the current situation and to meet with influential actors in the country, especially the representatives of demonstrations in the rest of the provinces to listen to their demands and views," he said. "If the committee completes its work and determines the required legislative, executive or judicial steps, they will be activated through its legal field, even with the help of popular and reference support system">support," he said. "This proposal has not been adopted at the time and its adoption at this time may be an appropriate approach to overcome the current ordeal. We hope that reason and logic and the interest of the country will prevail for those in positions of responsibility and decision-making to get things done before it is too late, and we hope that everyone is aware of the serious repercussions." In the use of violence and counter-violence in the ongoing protest movement. " Put up or shut up! Either sign some stuff now or, burn the biatch down! If it takes having an emergency session to do it or not taking that extra week off you better do it. Or how about starting with hanging malaki in the Town square. Edited October 5, 2019 by jg1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnytex Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Word is Saleh is the new man .we will see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Agency: the death toll of demonstrations in Iraq to 38 dead Iraq - archive image 04 Oct 2019 09:35 PM Direct: The Iraqi human rights organization said that the victims of the escalating demonstrations in the Arab country to 38 dead, according to Anatolia News Agency. It is noteworthy that, Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi, hinted on 11 resolutions to calm the escalating demonstrations in his country. The Iraqi city of Baghdad is witnessing several provinces demonstrations, demanding better services and employment opportunities and the elimination of corruption. The Iraqi Prime Minister, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, issued a decision to ban full roaming of wheels and personnel in Baghdad from 5 am on Thursday, until further notice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Iraqi Prime Minister issued 11 resolutions to calm the escalating demonstrations عادل عبد المهدي Free Membership 04 Oct 2019 09:27 PM Direct: Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi, 11 resolutions in his address to the Iraqi people, in conjunction with the continuing demonstrations in a number of cities and provinces against the deterioration of the economic level . Adel Abdul Mahdi said that there would be a project to give a salary to each family does not have enough income, to provide a minimum income to ensure for each Iraqi family, according to the Iraqi news agency "conscious ". Abdul-Mahdi hinted at the removal of a thousand government employees who have been brought to court accused of corruption and waste of public money, and prevent them from taking up any government job in the future . The Iraqi Prime Minister said that housing alternatives will be provided before removing the transgressors . He pointed to the continuation of the plan to distribute the served land free of charge to the segments of the Iraqi people from the eligible classes within the National Housing Initiative . He pointed out that economic, political, service and social reforms related to various projects are based on our agreements to create jobs and fight poverty . He stressed, working to release detainees who did not commit criminal crimes in agreement with the Council of the Judiciary . He stressed that the victims are demonstrators and security services are martyrs covered by applicable rights . He continued: "Absorb the workforce and competencies and graduates and holders of higher degrees and give them privileges of a new system ." He said that a proposal will be submitted to the House of Representatives to reform the electoral system so as to enhance its credibility and prevent monopoly or quotas . The proposal to put funds in the upcoming provincial elections to make constitutional amendments voted by the House of Representatives . The formation of committees to investigate the events that accompanied the demonstrations, and identify phone numbers to receive communications from those responsible for the demonstrations to respond to their demands . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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