Popular Post keylime Posted October 8, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Carrello said: No DoD. We, Democrats and Liberals, are not the idiots. The Kurds have been our ally and seeing them slaughtered starting today is not something that is right, acceptable, or to be taken lightly. The only idiot I see "celebrating and cheering" is trump. The rest of the country and Republican Congress are appaulled and astounded. I agree with McConnell and Graham about this, and Romney and Cheney and all the rest. Personally, I am confounded why you would think any American would be cheering this surrender to Ergodan and the slaughter of our allies. I am sickened by it. First of all, we've been supporting them with our weaponry, training, and money. Lots of it. Not to mention our boys lives. It's time for the Middle East to pull up their big boy pants and do what we taught them to do. We can keep giving them fish forever or they can take what we taught them about fishing and let them feed themselves. It's time the Kurds and Iraqis and the rest of our so called partners in the Middle East defend what is theirs. And it's high time we start defending what is ours like our southern borders, our international trade, etc. Romney is a deep stater. A Trump hater. I have zero respect for his lame biased jealous opinion. And anyone that thinks we should continue after 12 years when we only supposed to have been there for a month(another lying bill of goods the American people were sold) is the problem. When Trump got in all the Democrats and Never Trumpers yelled he's unstable! He is going to start World War 3! Now that he is proven to be a man who seeks peace through tough negotiations and doesn't have his finger on the button like they so blatantly lied and defamed him about, they are the ones yelling "but we need to keep fighting! or it will lead to WW3!" I call BS on the whole lot of them. Trump has pulled out of every bad deal all these deep state, globalist lying sacks of dried up concrete politicians have ever gotten us into and he just keeps on making the right choices and winning, proving his wisdom far beyond the two faced dems and rinos. And they can't stand that he is right and that they can't get rid of him(although they spend their every waking minute banging their empty skulls against his behind scheming of ways to get him out of there) HA! Never happen cap'n! Their house of cards coups blow apart the minute the real truth is applied to it. The Americans who voted for him are going to put him back for another 4 years while the Leftist Socialists continue to do nothing for the American people but attack the man who they chose to be their leader. They are all pitiful, treasonous, snakes that are losing their power and soon money, and they are fighting tooth and nail to keep it. Our allies are not going to get slaughtered, we will continue to financially support them, and stock them with the latest weaponry. Trump just doesn't want our men to be on the front lines anymore in a tribal war that will never be resolved. Pulling the plug is the sanest thing we can do. Enough is enough. We are not abandoning them, we are letting them grow up. We have been there without a declaration of war. If the Congress and political talking heads want us in a war, then let them declare war, authorize the use of military force and start doing their job instead of whining and pointing fingers at the only man who does what he says he is going to do, the duly elected Commander and Chief. BTW, now that today has ended, how many Kurds were slaughtered today again? 3 6 17 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinarrock Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Awesome awesome awesome reply keylime that was very well said I agree with you 1000%!!! 2 3 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwg Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Awesome Keylime!!!! Nailed it!! 2 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dinarrock said: Awesome awesome awesome reply keylime that was very well said I agree with you 1000%!!! 4 minutes ago, kwg said: Awesome Keylime!!!! Nailed it!! Thank you! Just had to bring the other side of the coin. The one with the heads up! 1 3 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, keylime said: First of all, we've been supporting them with our weaponry, training, and money. Lots of it. Not to mention our boys lives. It's time for the Middle East to pull up their big boy pants and do what we taught them to do. We can keep giving them fish forever or they can take what we taught them about fishing and let them feed themselves. It's time the Kurds and Iraqis and the rest of our so called partners in the Middle East defend what is theirs. And it's high time we start defending what is ours like our southern borders, our international trade, etc. Romney is a deep stater. A Trump hater. I have zero respect for his lame biased jealous opinion. And anyone that thinks we should continue after 12 years when we only supposed to have been there for a month(another lying bill of goods the American people were sold) is the problem. When Trump got in all the Democrats and Never Trumpers yelled he's unstable! He is going to start World War 3! Now that he is proven to be a man who seeks peace through tough negotiations and doesn't have his finger on the button like they so blatantly lied and defamed him about, they are the ones yelling "but we need to keep fighting! or it will lead to WW3!" I call BS on the whole lot of them. Trump has pulled out of every bad deal all these deep state, globalist lying sacks of dried up concrete politicians have ever gotten us into and he just keeps on making the right choices and winning, proving his wisdom far beyond the two faced dems and rinos. And they can't stand that he is right and that they can't get rid of him(although they spend their every waking minute banging their empty skulls against his behind scheming of ways to get him out of there) HA! Never happen cap'n! Their house of cards coups blow apart the minute the real truth is applied to it. The Americans who voted for him are going to put him back for another 4 years while the Leftist Socialists continue to do nothing for the American people but attack the man who they chose to be their leader. They are all pitiful, treasonous, snakes that are losing their power and soon money, and they are fighting tooth and nail to keep it. Our allies are not going to get slaughtered, we will continue to financially support system" rel="">support them, and stock them with the latest weaponry. Trump just doesn't want our men to be on the front lines anymore in a tribal war that will never be resolved. Pulling the plug is the sanest thing we can do. Enough is enough. We are not abandoning them, we are letting them grow up. We have been there without a declaration of war. If the Congress and political talking heads want us in a war, then let them declare war, authorize the use of military force and start doing their job instead of whining and pointing fingers at the only man who does what he says he is going to do, the duly elected Commander and Chief. BTW, now that today has ended, how many Kurds were slaughtered today again? Yep. What you said. 1 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg1 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 11 hours ago, jg1 said: If they allow it to happen there should be conveniences! If they cant handle the number of detainee's either hand them over to Iraq or speed up the trial/procecutions. End of story. Correction ..... If they allow it to happen there should be consequences! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwball Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Tired of being the gatekeeper.....time for neighbours to step.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 theintercept.com Fox News in Disarray as Hosts Struggle to Digest Trump’s Betrayal of the Syrian Kurds Robert Mackey October 7 2019, 4:27 p.m. DONALD TRUMP’S LATE-NIGHT decision to abandon the Syrian Kurds who helped the United States destroy the Islamic State caliphate in Syria prompted a rare outburst of dissent on Monday on the president’s favorite television program, “Fox and Friends.” The news of Trump’s complete reversal of his pledge in June to defend the Kurds from a threatened Turkish invasion of their enclave in northern Syria outraged one of the president’s most diehard boosters, the Fox host Brian Kilmeade. Bobby Lewis@revrrlewis Brian Kilmeade fights with his co-hosts over Trump throwing Syrian Kurds under the bus: "What kind of message is that to the next ally that wants to side with us? ... All we did is arm them, and they did all the work. And now we say 'good luck. Good luck surviving.' Disaster." “What a disaster, I mean, the president’s statement through Stephanie Grisham is, you know, ‘We defeated the caliphate, the caliphate’s destroyed.’ We would not have done that without the Kurds, who did all of our fighting,” Kilmeade said to his stunned co-hosts on the morning show. “Now we’re saying, ‘Okay Turks, go wipe them out, or force them out.’ What kind of message is that to the next ally that wants to side with us?” he asked. When another of the show’s hosts, Steve Doocy, tried to defend Trump, saying, “I think the president is doing exactly what he wants to, because he has made from the get-go very clear, campaign promises–” Kilmeade interrupted to ask sarcastically, “to release ISIS fighters?” Later in the morning, the show’s hosts looked deeply uncomfortable as Sen. Lindsey Graham, another regular Trump supporter, lambasted Trump’s decision as “impulsive Lindsey Graham calls in to Fox & Friends & calls Trump's decision to abandon the Kurds "impulsive." "I hope I'm making myself clear how shortsighted & irresponsible this decision is in my view," he says. "This to me is just unnerving to its core." 6,353 5:22 AM - Oct 7, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 3,689 people are talking about this “I hope I’m making myself clear, how shortsighted and irresponsible this decision is in my view,” Graham added. “This to me is just unnerving to its core. To say to the American people ISIS has been destroyed is not true.” Doocy once agains tried, without much force, to argue Trump’s corner, telling Graham, “Senator, there are a lot of military families who would like to see our personnel come home.” Later Monday morning, the hosts of “America’s Newsroom,” Bill Hemmer and Sandra Smith, looked taken aback when Fox Middle East correspondent Trey Yingst offered a clear and unstinting description of Trump’s about-face as a broken promise. “Bill, the Kurds had an agreement with the Americans: help the West battle ISIS in exchange for protection of their people. This was a promise made by President Trump, and a promise that today, according to the White House, will not be kept.” Yingst reported live from Jerusalem. Trey Yingst ✔@TreyYingst Promises were made by the Trump administration to the Kurds. Those promises, according to the White House, will not be kept. “Overnight the administration did confirm, following a phone call with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, that Turkey will soon attack Kurdish forces in Syria,” Yingst continued. “President Trump has signed off on the withdrawal of U.S. forces in the area that were meant to prevent such an attack.” “So what does this mean?” Yingst said at the end of his report. “This means that Turkey plans to annex parts of a sovereign country, Syria, with the support of President Trump.” When the camera switched back from Jerusalem to New York, Hemmer and Smith looked somewhat befuddled about how to process these facts. In a further indication that Fox’s dedicated pro-Trump opinion hosts might have their work cut out for them if they try to cast the president’s move in a positive light, “America’s Newsroom” also aired commentary from a retired general, Jack Keane, who railed against Trump’s decision to cut the Kurds loose. “There’s one word that describes this for me, betrayal,” Keane said. “I think it’s a strategic blunder that will have significant implications.” “We went into eastern Syria to defeat ISIS,” Keane added. “The Syrian Democratic Forces, which the Kurds were a part of, had 60,000 ground troops. We provided 2,000 to help them. It took us two years. We fought every single day to defeat ISIS. The Syrian Kurds, who we’re talking about here, lost over 11,000 in that fight…. How can we possibly walk away from them?” That sentiment was echoed on the Fox News website in an op-ed by Judith Miller, the disgraced former New York Times reporter, who noted that Trump’s decision, “delighted President Erdogan, who considers Kurdish forces in Syria as ‘terrorists’ and seeks to create a ‘safe zone’ inside this predominantly Kurdish area where it can resettle many of the estimated 3.5 million Syrian and other Sunni Muslim refugees who fled the Syrian civil war, many of whom now live in Turkey.” “America’s move undoubtedly now leaves the Kurds, who fear being outnumbered in what has been their traditional demographic stronghold, utterly at Turkey’s mercy,” Miller told readers of the Fox News website. Another Fox News show, “Outnumbered,” featured commentary from Lisa Kennedy Montgomery, a usually reliable pro-Trump voice, condemning the president’s treatment of the Kurds. “We’re completely abandoning them to die. I mean, they could absolutely be slaughtered, and this is unconscionable,” she said. “This is so unacceptable. 1:19 PM - Oct 7, 2019 See Outnumbered Overtime's other Tweets Later on Monday, Fox turned to the president’s main booster, himself, who tried to justify his decision to allow the Turks to attack the Kurds, offering the bizarre rationale that the two nationalities are “natural enemies.” 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 50 minutes ago, Carrello said: theintercept.com Fox News in Disarray as Hosts Struggle to Digest Trump’s Betrayal of the Syrian Kurds Robert Mackey October 7 2019, 4:27 p.m. DONALD TRUMP’S LATE-NIGHT decision to abandon the Syrian Kurds who helped the United States destroy the Islamic State caliphate in Syria prompted a rare outburst of dissent on Monday on the president’s favorite television program, “Fox and Friends.” The news of Trump’s complete reversal of his pledge in June to defend the Kurds from a threatened Turkish invasion of their enclave in northern Syria outraged one of the president’s most diehard boosters, the Fox host Brian Kilmeade. Bobby Lewis@revrrlewis Brian Kilmeade fights with his co-hosts over Trump throwing Syrian Kurds under the bus: "What kind of message is that to the next ally that wants to side with us? ... All we did is arm them, and they did all the work. And now we say 'good luck. Good luck surviving.' Disaster." “What a disaster, I mean, the president’s statement through Stephanie Grisham is, you know, ‘We defeated the caliphate, the caliphate’s destroyed.’ We would not have done that without the Kurds, who did all of our fighting,” Kilmeade said to his stunned co-hosts on the morning show. “Now we’re saying, ‘Okay Turks, go wipe them out, or force them out.’ What kind of message is that to the next ally that wants to side with us?” he asked. When another of the show’s hosts, Steve Doocy, tried to defend Trump, saying, “I think the president is doing exactly what he wants to, because he has made from the get-go very clear, campaign promises–” Kilmeade interrupted to ask sarcastically, “to release ISIS fighters?” Later in the morning, the show’s hosts looked deeply uncomfortable as Sen. Lindsey Graham, another regular Trump supporter, lambasted Trump’s decision as “impulsive Lindsey Graham calls in to Fox & Friends & calls Trump's decision to abandon the Kurds "impulsive." "I hope I'm making myself clear how shortsighted & irresponsible this decision is in my view," he says. "This to me is just unnerving to its core." 6,353 5:22 AM - Oct 7, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 3,689 people are talking about this “I hope I’m making myself clear, how shortsighted and irresponsible this decision is in my view,” Graham added. “This to me is just unnerving to its core. To say to the American people ISIS has been destroyed is not true.” Doocy once agains tried, without much force, to argue Trump’s corner, telling Graham, “Senator, there are a lot of military families who would like to see our personnel come home.” Later Monday morning, the hosts of “America’s Newsroom,” Bill Hemmer and Sandra Smith, looked taken aback when Fox Middle East correspondent Trey Yingst offered a clear and unstinting description of Trump’s about-face as a broken promise. “Bill, the Kurds had an agreement with the Americans: help the West battle ISIS in exchange for protection of their people. This was a promise made by President Trump, and a promise that today, according to the White House, will not be kept.” Yingst reported live from Jerusalem. Trey Yingst ✔@TreyYingst Promises were made by the Trump administration to the Kurds. Those promises, according to the White House, will not be kept. “Overnight the administration did confirm, following a phone call with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, that Turkey will soon attack Kurdish forces in Syria,” Yingst continued. “President Trump has signed off on the withdrawal of U.S. forces in the area that were meant to prevent such an attack.” “So what does this mean?” Yingst said at the end of his report. “This means that Turkey plans to annex parts of a sovereign country, Syria, with the support system" rel="">support of President Trump.” When the camera switched back from Jerusalem to New York, Hemmer and Smith looked somewhat befuddled about how to process these facts. In a further indication that Fox’s dedicated pro-Trump opinion hosts might have their work cut out for them if they try to cast the president’s move in a positive light, “America’s Newsroom” also aired commentary from a retired general, Jack Keane, who railed against Trump’s decision to cut the Kurds loose. “There’s one word that describes this for me, betrayal,” Keane said. “I think it’s a strategic blunder that will have significant implications.” “We went into eastern Syria to defeat ISIS,” Keane added. “The Syrian Democratic Forces, which the Kurds were a part of, had 60,000 ground troops. We provided 2,000 to help them. It took us two years. We fought every single day to defeat ISIS. The Syrian Kurds, who we’re talking about here, lost over 11,000 in that fight…. How can we possibly walk away from them?” That sentiment was echoed on the Fox News website in an op-ed by Judith Miller, the disgraced former New York Times reporter, who noted that Trump’s decision, “delighted President Erdogan, who considers Kurdish forces in Syria as ‘terrorists’ and seeks to create a ‘safe zone’ inside this predominantly Kurdish area where it can resettle many of the estimated 3.5 million Syrian and other Sunni Muslim refugees who fled the Syrian civil war, many of whom now live in Turkey.” “America’s move undoubtedly now leaves the Kurds, who fear being outnumbered in what has been their traditional demographic stronghold, utterly at Turkey’s mercy,” Miller told readers of the Fox News website. Another Fox News show, “Outnumbered,” featured commentary from Lisa Kennedy Montgomery, a usually reliable pro-Trump voice, condemning the president’s treatment of the Kurds. “We’re completely abandoning them to die. I mean, they could absolutely be slaughtered, and this is unconscionable,” she said. “This is so unacceptable. 1:19 PM - Oct 7, 2019 See Outnumbered Overtime's other Tweets Later on Monday, Fox turned to the president’s main booster, himself, who tried to justify his decision to allow the Turks to attack the Kurds, offering the bizarre rationale that the two nationalities are “natural enemies.” Fear is the irrational emotion that paralyzes a person to react to something that hasn't happened or may not happen. It takes courage to do what you believe is right especially in the face of criticism and anger. I love that Trump is a man of conviction, not a wishy-washy President who can't tie his own shoes because somebody might disapprove. After the decision to pull out is proven the right thing to do, just as moving the American embassy to Jerusalem and declaring it Israel's Capital did not start world war 3 as all the cowardly Left and rinos cried it would with more fear mongering, and pulling out of the Tehran debacle Obama jumped in head first to please his Muslim brotherhood with, and now after screaming for two years it would again start world war 3, all of those liberal led nation's are admitting Trump was right, this too will prove the naysayers wrong AGAIN. Trump is a praying man who has surrounded himself with men of God who have personal relationships with Jesus. The Bible says seek wise counsel. That is what Trump does everyday. And it goes against the fear mongering counsel of those who don't hear from God because they don't talk with God and have no relationship with The Almighty, nor His Son Jesus, nor His Holy Spirit. My trust is not in Trump but it is in knowing that God is guiding him and Trump is seeking His wisdom in what to do. Thus, this too will be another win for Trump, and especially our country. 3 1 1 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, keylime said: Fear is the irrational emotion that paralyzes a person to react to something that hasn't happened or may not happen. Fear Is a Liar 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carrello Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 No, Kurds were not slaughtered during the night. Why? The US troops have not moved out as of yet. Why? Mass confusion as to their mission. 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcfrag Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) When Trump refers to us as “Policing the region”, seems that is exactly what he means. We moved in and assisted in the quelling of ISIS in the region. Now here we are policing an ISIS prison, a bunch of scallywags so sinister, they are apparently going nowhere. Countries and their own courts are turning their backs to taking back their own citizens to be tried. Why isn’t Iraq trying any of these war criminals. Who is supposed to try all of these bastid children nobody wants? Is America supposed to just keep this prison of deadly foes forever? Trump even said let Turkey police the prison for a change. Turkey doesn’t want them anymore then Europe. So let Turkey have Syria, as well as the prison. It would be the same as putting thousands of Hannibles in prison here in America, but never ever trying them. The police can only apprehend them and hold them. That is pretty good reason for Trump to say WTF? Here’s the jail keys, all yours Erdogan! Maybe he can convince the other countries to try them, or just bury the whole prison in the desert somewhere. We are not going to do that..... Edited October 8, 2019 by jcfrag 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, yota691 said: Fear Is a Liar .............while the Liberals' Pants and Hair is on FIRE!!! FACTS in THIS matter: The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump has stated THAT IF THEE Twerks do inappropriate things to the Syrian Turds, er, Kurds, The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump will DESTROY THEE Twerkish Economy. Better to "grab" "'em" BY THEE "pocket" "book" THAN TO PUT The United States Of America Service Persons' lives at risk WITH "boots" ON THEE "ground". The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump has stated ISIS WILL BE BLASTED IF AN ISIS REINSURGENCE IS FORMING. THEE Turds, er, Kurds are "big" "boys" AND "big" "girls" AND "can" "handle" "themselves". The United States Of America Service Person's presence in Turdish, er, Kurdish Syria WAS MINIMAL TO DATE IN COMPARISON TO Turdish, er, Kurdish forces. The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump campaigned on getting The United States Of America OUT OF ENDLESS WARS OF NO DIRECT BENEFIT TO The United States Of America AND RIGHTFULLY SO. The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump DREW DOWN The United States Of America Service Persons AND STATED THE IMMINENT REMOVAL OF ALL The United States Of America Service Persons from Syrian Turdish, er, Kurdish controlled areas months ago. THEE Yerapeein' Nations MUST TAKE BACK THEIR ISIS RELATED CITIZENS AND IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF The United States Of America. THEE Turds, er, Kurds WILL HAVE TO STEP UP AND MAKE SURE THE CAPTIVE ISIS COMBATANTS ARE RETURNED TO THEIR RESPECTIVE Yerapeein' Nations OF ORIGIN FOR PROSECUTION. NO amount of The United States Of America Service Persons' presence in Syrian Turdish, er, Kurdish held areas WILL QUELL THE HISTORIC AND UNDERLYING TRIBAL RIVALRIES AND CONFLICTS. WHEN, prayed AND told, looking at ACTUAL FACTS in THIS matter, The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump HAS NOT ABANDONED THEE Syrian Turds, er, Kurds TO SLAUGHTER BUT IS USING OTHER MORE AND EFFECTIVE TOOLS WITH LOWER RISK AND GREATER BENEFIT TO ALL INVOLVED. THEE Liberals ALL NEED TO "extricate" THEIR "cognitions" FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE "safe" "spaces", STAND UP STRAIGHT LIKIE True The United States Of America Patriots, AND BREATHE THE CLEAN, FRESH, AND INVIGORATING AIR OF PEACEABLE LIBERTY AND FREEDOM!!! THEE "sky" IS NOT "falling" AS THEE Liberal pants AND hair is on fire "posters" AND "hypesters" DEMAND ALL TO BELIEVE SO THEY CAN HAVE "control" AND DO INCREDIBLY STUPID THINGS!!! Go Moola Nova! 2 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 40 minutes ago, Carrello said: No, Kurds were not slaughtered during the night. Why? The US troops have not moved out as of yet. Why? Mass confusion as to their mission. Oh just asking because that's what you said in your rant and I quote lest you already forgot "The Kurds have been our ally and seeing them slaughtered starting today is not something that is right,..." You can't fear monger and then act as if you have never said it. That is intellectually dishonest 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 jcfrag, I hear you. But one detail from your comments: The US troops are not monitoring the ISIS prison. The SDF, Kurds, are. There is a big part of the problem here. The SDF are going to leave the prison because they will be called to defend their people, leaving ISIS free to dispurse, all 11,000 of them. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, keylime said: Oh just asking because that's what you said in your rant and I quote lest you already forgot "The Kurds have been our ally and seeing them slaughtered starting today is not something that is right,..." I don't forget much there friend. One bit of advice: Stop rowing that dingy only with a right oar. You only go in circles. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Carrello said: jcfrag, I hear you. But one detail from your comments: The US troops are not monitoring the ISIS prison. The SDF, Kurds, are. There is a big part of the problem here. The SDF are going to leave the prison because they will be called to defend their people, leaving ISIS free to dispurse, all 11,000 of them. I'm so glad you can see into the future how about just telling us when this whole thing is going to RV and what it will RV at and we can go ahead and prepare. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Carrello said: I don't forget much there friend. One bit of advice: Stop rowing that dingy only with a right oar. You only go in circles. Keep the advice to yourself you haven't been right yet. So you deny saying that the Kurds would be slaughtered today and that was yesterday. hmmmm. Besides it is much easier to circle with the truth than zigzag with lies. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Synopsis, can you write your comments in any other format than a comic book style? It is really hard to get your point when co-mingled with snide remarks and vitriol. It's too much work to pull out your "facts" out of the posts and comment. I breathe fresh air every minute of the day. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, keylime said: I'm so glad you can see into the future how about just telling us when this whole thing is going to RV and what it will RV at and we can go ahead and prepare. 1 minute ago, keylime said: Keep the advice to yourself you haven't been right yet. So you deny saying that the Kurds would be slaughtered today and that was yesterday. hmmmm. My stinkiin' purple trophy AND emerald counter is topped out so, for NOW, please accept +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ THEE "fear" "mongering" IS ALL THEE Liberals have AS THEY ARE SUCKED DOWN THEE "self" "generated" VORTEX OF CONFUSION AND INSANITY. Just now, Carrello said: Synopsis, can you write your comments in any other format than a comic book style? It is really hard to get your point when co-mingled with snide remarks and vitriol. It's too much work to pull out your "facts" out of the posts and comment. I breathe fresh air every minute of the day. Nah, my animated posts are a softening of my laser precision and annihilation of idiocy SOME "believe" WILL "violate" THEIR "sensitive" "feelings". The format of YOUR comments HERE is ACTUALLY comic book style, Carrello, being ABSENT of ACTUAL FACTS in THIS matter. However, YOUR comic book style, Carrello, IS NO LAUGHING MATTER. So, Please, OH, Please demonstrate THEE "non" "comic" "book" "format", Carrello!!! To clarify, Please, OH, Please breathe fresh air every minute of the day IN THE DIMENSION OF REALITY OF ACTUAL Peaceable Liberty AND Freedom NOT THE DIMENSION YOU ARE ENSLAVED IN. Go Moola Nova! 1 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreis Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Iraq youth want and need jobs, sounds to me a military career would be very much appreciated at this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinarrock Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Carrello said: theintercept.com Fox News in Disarray as Hosts Struggle to Digest Trump’s Betrayal of the Syrian Kurds Robert Mackey October 7 2019, 4:27 p.m. DONALD TRUMP’S LATE-NIGHT decision to abandon the Syrian Kurds who helped the United States destroy the Islamic State caliphate in Syria prompted a rare outburst of dissent on Monday on the president’s favorite television program, “Fox and Friends.” The news of Trump’s complete reversal of his pledge in June to defend the Kurds from a threatened Turkish invasion of their enclave in northern Syria outraged one of the president’s most diehard boosters, the Fox host Brian Kilmeade. Bobby Lewis@revrrlewis Brian Kilmeade fights with his co-hosts over Trump throwing Syrian Kurds under the bus: "What kind of message is that to the next ally that wants to side with us? ... All we did is arm them, and they did all the work. And now we say 'good luck. Good luck surviving.' Disaster." “What a disaster, I mean, the president’s statement through Stephanie Grisham is, you know, ‘We defeated the caliphate, the caliphate’s destroyed.’ We would not have done that without the Kurds, who did all of our fighting,” Kilmeade said to his stunned co-hosts on the morning show. “Now we’re saying, ‘Okay Turks, go wipe them out, or force them out.’ What kind of message is that to the next ally that wants to side with us?” he asked. When another of the show’s hosts, Steve Doocy, tried to defend Trump, saying, “I think the president is doing exactly what he wants to, because he has made from the get-go very clear, campaign promises–” Kilmeade interrupted to ask sarcastically, “to release ISIS fighters?” Later in the morning, the show’s hosts looked deeply uncomfortable as Sen. Lindsey Graham, another regular Trump supporter, lambasted Trump’s decision as “impulsive Lindsey Graham calls in to Fox & Friends & calls Trump's decision to abandon the Kurds "impulsive." "I hope I'm making myself clear how shortsighted & irresponsible this decision is in my view," he says. "This to me is just unnerving to its core." 6,353 5:22 AM - Oct 7, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 3,689 people are talking about this “I hope I’m making myself clear, how shortsighted and irresponsible this decision is in my view,” Graham added. “This to me is just unnerving to its core. To say to the American people ISIS has been destroyed is not true.” Doocy once agains tried, without much force, to argue Trump’s corner, telling Graham, “Senator, there are a lot of military families who would like to see our personnel come home.” Later Monday morning, the hosts of “America’s Newsroom,” Bill Hemmer and Sandra Smith, looked taken aback when Fox Middle East correspondent Trey Yingst offered a clear and unstinting description of Trump’s about-face as a broken promise. “Bill, the Kurds had an agreement with the Americans: help the West battle ISIS in exchange for protection of their people. This was a promise made by President Trump, and a promise that today, according to the White House, will not be kept.” Yingst reported live from Jerusalem. Trey Yingst ✔@TreyYingst Promises were made by the Trump administration to the Kurds. Those promises, according to the White House, will not be kept. “Overnight the administration did confirm, following a phone call with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, that Turkey will soon attack Kurdish forces in Syria,” Yingst continued. “President Trump has signed off on the withdrawal of U.S. forces in the area that were meant to prevent such an attack.” “So what does this mean?” Yingst said at the end of his report. “This means that Turkey plans to annex parts of a sovereign country, Syria, with the support system" rel="">support of President Trump.” When the camera switched back from Jerusalem to New York, Hemmer and Smith looked somewhat befuddled about how to process these facts. In a further indication that Fox’s dedicated pro-Trump opinion hosts might have their work cut out for them if they try to cast the president’s move in a positive light, “America’s Newsroom” also aired commentary from a retired general, Jack Keane, who railed against Trump’s decision to cut the Kurds loose. “There’s one word that describes this for me, betrayal,” Keane said. “I think it’s a strategic blunder that will have significant implications.” “We went into eastern Syria to defeat ISIS,” Keane added. “The Syrian Democratic Forces, which the Kurds were a part of, had 60,000 ground troops. We provided 2,000 to help them. It took us two years. We fought every single day to defeat ISIS. The Syrian Kurds, who we’re talking about here, lost over 11,000 in that fight…. How can we possibly walk away from them?” That sentiment was echoed on the Fox News website in an op-ed by Judith Miller, the disgraced former New York Times reporter, who noted that Trump’s decision, “delighted President Erdogan, who considers Kurdish forces in Syria as ‘terrorists’ and seeks to create a ‘safe zone’ inside this predominantly Kurdish area where it can resettle many of the estimated 3.5 million Syrian and other Sunni Muslim refugees who fled the Syrian civil war, many of whom now live in Turkey.” “America’s move undoubtedly now leaves the Kurds, who fear being outnumbered in what has been their traditional demographic stronghold, utterly at Turkey’s mercy,” Miller told readers of the Fox News website. Another Fox News show, “Outnumbered,” featured commentary from Lisa Kennedy Montgomery, a usually reliable pro-Trump voice, condemning the president’s treatment of the Kurds. “We’re completely abandoning them to die. I mean, they could absolutely be slaughtered, and this is unconscionable,” she said. “This is so unacceptable. 1:19 PM - Oct 7, 2019 See Outnumbered Overtime's other Tweets Later on Monday, Fox turned to the president’s main booster, himself, who tried to justify his decision to allow the Turks to attack the Kurds, offering the bizarre rationale that the two nationalities are “natural enemies.” Trump: We have not abandoned the Kurds in any way October 8, 2019 Walter 2019/10/08 08:10:13 A- A A + US President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he had not given up the Kurds in Syria “in any way.” Trump wrote in a series of tweets on his Twitter account: “We may be about to leave Syria, but we have in no way abandoned the Kurds, and they are special people and wonderful fighters.” The US president reiterated his threat to Ankara, saying “any unnecessary fighting by Turkey would be devastating for their economy and their very fragile currency. We are helping the Kurds financially / with weapons!” Turkey’s defense ministry said Tuesday it was “completing” preparations for a military operation in northern Syria, amid conflicting signals from the United States over whether Trump would allow the attack. The US president ordered US soldiers to withdraw from the border area between Turkey and Syria after a telephone conversation with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Opponents saw Trump’s move abandoning the Kurdish forces, which were a key ally of Washington in its battle against ISIS. The Turkish president has repeatedly threatened an attack on Kurdish fighters in northern Syria because of their relationship with separatists in his country. But Trump also adjusted his stance on Monday, under pressure from international condemnation and criticism inside his Republican camp. Ankara is demanding a “safe area” on the border with northern Syria, separating Kurdish rebel-held areas from the Turkish border and allowing the return of nearly two million Syrian refugees. Ankara has in the past carried out two operations in Syria, the first against ISIS in 2016 and the second against the YPG in 2018, supported by armed factions affiliated with the Syrian opposition. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Synopsis said: .............while the Liberals' Pants and Hair is on FIRE!!! FACTS in THIS matter: Brian Kilmeade of FOX News is a Liberal? Wow! Who knew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 "My stinkiin' purple trophy AND emerald counter is topped out so, for NOW, please accept +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++" THEE "fear" "mongering" IS ALL THEE Liberals have AS THEY ARE SUCKED DOWN THEE "self" "generated" VORTEX OF CONFUSION AND INSANITY. I graciously accept brother Synopsis. And back to you! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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