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Subject: A solution... Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes I've heard in all this drama about the debt ceiling: "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told Becky Quick. "You just pass a law that says anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, no sitting member of Congress will be eligible for re-election."

[bondLady] Experts claim citizens of small currency and Central undertakes to replace damaged Date: Saturday 30-07-11 12: 20 pm Baghdad (News)/report/Hussein Faleh/... Economists called on citizens to deal with a small currency in support of the Iraqi dinar, in exchange of the citizen and the Bank accepts no responsibility for circulation in the market, while the Central Bank pledged to replace damaged currency. A number of experts speaking (News News Agency) today, few of these groups led to the fact that some vendors to increase the price of the article sold. Director of Rafidain Zia added in a statement to a reporter (News Agency news) Saturday: Iraqi banks full of small currency category (250, 500, 1000), but the absence of Sweeper by citizens and even staff led to accumulation, noting that State refuses to receive paid services, estimated at billions of small currency even proportion (5%) Of them. [bondLady] He added: the small coins in the Iraqi market is virtually missing but are available at banks and large. According to General Manager of Rafidain Bank when it comes to salaries (inlaid) with small currencies are us complaints by citizens and employees, therefore we are forced to spend large currency salaries only. From the Central Bank Adviser, said the appearance of Mohamed Saleh told reporter (News Agency for news) Saturday: this small currency from banks was not returned to the Central Bank until new currency noudaha, noting that banks receive large currency only because few quantities and costs counted and sorted the simplest, this is why we must restore Iraqi currency structure to delete three zeros from the currency. [bondLady] He Mohammed Saleh: we have set aside a day of the week lnstkobl of small currency banks damaged noudaha modern categories without any cost, noting that the Central Bank stands ready to provide the banks with any amount of small coins. We said if they have been compensated by small groups of banks, there was no need to print intermediate currencies with category (2000, 3000) dinars. He said if there were an average work, this does not mean that the Iraqi currency will strengthen but merely a means to facilitate the payment currency. The mineral groups if we are to make it easier to work with a lot of things that big old extends to more than 15 years. With the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Bank the economy need to Hussam Obeid returns coin as it was previously in place to strengthen Iraqi dinars. [bondLady] Added on: small currency acceptable to the Iraqi market, if the value is planning to make the dinar value against the dollar and this is through the printed coins to strengthen Iraqi currency. Said Mohammed Jabbar (retired): most banks conduct US currency salaries with small groups and contains a lot of damaged banknotes so that each can only be dealt with and rejected by the vendors. As explained by ' Ali (Abu Husam) that a few small groups in the local market that generates major embarrassment when you buy any material which leads to the fact that the seller to increase the price of article sold./finished/8 r. Eng. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ar&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Fnews_view_17340.html [bondLady] this is a great article [bondLady] and very telling to us imo [player46] BondLady ..Yessum..you read my mind.. [bondLady] let me pull some parts of it out for us [bondLady] Iraqi banks full of small currency category (250, 500, 1000), but the absence of Sweeper by citizens and even staff led to accumulation, noting that State refuses to receive paid services, estimated at billions of small currency even proportion (5%) Of them. He added: the small coins in the Iraqi market is virtually missing but are available at banks and large. According to General Manager of Rafidain Bank when it comes to salaries (inlaid) with small currencies are us complaints by citizens and employees, therefore we are forced to spend large currency salaries only. From the Central Bank Adviser, said the appearance of Mohamed Saleh told reporter (News Agency for news) Saturday: this small currency from banks was not returned to the Central Bank until new currency noudaha, noting that banks receive large currency only because few quantities and costs counted and sorted the simplest, this is why we must restore Iraqi currency structure to delete three zeros from the currency. [bondLady] see people are turning in these denoms but holding onto the big 000 notes imo [bondLady] so this is basically tellin us they have plenty of the 250 500 and 1000 notes in the banks [bondLady] said these denoms werent returned to the cbi to be destroyed [bondLady] and wouldnt be till the new currency comes out [bondLady] this small currency from banks was not returned to the Central Bank until new currency noudaha, noting that banks receive large currency only because few quantities and costs counted and sorted the simplest, this is why we must restore Iraqi currency structure to delete three zeros from the currency. [bondLady] this is why we must do the currency restructure [bondLady] to help in buissness transactions etc [bondLady] we have set aside a day of the week lnstkobl of small currency banks damaged noudaha modern categories without any cost, [bondLady] theve set aside a day of the week hmmmmmm [bondLady] wonder which day [bondLady] and is it a day of the week and not a weekend again hmmm [bondLady] to bring all ur currency in to be exchanged for the new? and to replace damaged currency [bondLady] as some places were charging the citizens for takeing there damaged or torn currency to trade it in for undamaged money [bondLady] the banks would trade it without a cost [bondLady] but the average iraqi is so clueless about some things [bondLady] it allows almost any 1 to take advantage of them [bondLady] so the cbi will set aside a day of the week to do these exchanges [bondLady] next part [bondLady] noting that the Central Bank stands ready to provide the banks with any amount of small coins. [bondLady] so they have the coins [bondLady] stands ready to provide [bondLady] Directors of the Bank the economy need to Hussam Obeid returns coin as it was previously in place to strengthen Iraqi dinars. [bondLady] to strengthen the iraqi dinars [bondLady] to make the dinar stronger? [bondLady] that would imo include the rate [bondLady] make a stronger exchange rate for the dinar by releasing the coins [bondLady] otherwise the coins would be of absolutley no good use at all [bondLady] bout like the 50 iqd as it stands today [bondLady] barely worrth a penny if that [bondLady] or maybe 5 cents [bondLady] so bringing the coins has to be a great telling piece of info as it would serve no purpose at all to release them an would imo only make the people mad who had to carry them [bondLady] as the rate right now of 1170 what good would it do other than to make change because of taxes basically [bondLady] small currency acceptable to the Iraqi market, if the value is planning to make the dinar value against the dollar and this is through the printed coins to strengthen Iraqi currency. [bondLady] see what im sayin [bondLady] if the value is planning to make the dinar value against the dollar and this is through the printed coins to strengthen Iraqi currency. [bondLady] most banks conduct US currency salaries with small groups and contains a lot of damaged banknotes so that each can only be dealt with and rejected by the vendors. As explained by ' Ali (Abu Husam) that a few small groups in the local market that generates major embarrassment when you buy any material which leads to the fact that the seller to increase the price of article sold. [bondLady] people are embarressed to use the 250 500 an 1000 as it stands [bondLady] as they have to carry pocket fulls just for small transactions [bondLady] when they release the lower denominations [bondLady] wonder what the embarrassment level would be then if there wasnt a new rate attached to the ld's [bondLady] and now we kinda know because there setting up a exchange day thru the week [bondLady] for people to come an exchange there torn or lower denom currency for the new lower denominations is such a good an telling move [bondLady] i trully believe we are so close to the release of the ld's and the coins as i do believe there all ready to go [bondLady] this was really a great article [bondLady] i have 2 more to bring real quick [bondLady] heres the next 1 [bondLady] Take three zeros and stay tuned for results Is the Monetary Authority in Iraq led by the Iraqi Central Bank to raise three zeros from the currency in circulation and the objective they say curbing inflation and reducing prices and disposal of large cash blocks. This action or the experience of several States, according to economists. Just launch permit this kind of news making citizen watching cautiously many stakeholders and owners of money questioned the impacts that may result from this action (delete the zeros). ALA has supposed dealer Haidar's supposed owner also 100 million dinars says ALA: How do I accept 100,000 dinars from Hyderabad if delete three zeros?.Click all or most of us recognize that our weak economic culture where never understood all that deleting zeros will not affect commercial transactions or journal of debts and other this will lead to the result to an escalating balance of litigation in the courts inevitably in time complaining about the many cases of the courts and delayed by the shortage of judges this little known fact, that's one of the effects that may result from deleting zeros. Therefore it requires a high-level awareness plan to address such conflicts and understand citizen previously non-damage by deleting zeros and this requires a programme of work and sufficient time for maturing the idea that it is the duty of the ECB definitely before the start of the deletion procedures. [bondLady] One expert stressed me responding to my question about the potential effects of delete zeros that Turkey has gone through this experience, allowing time to dealing and trading in currencies simultaneously and a long period of time until all segments of society, there is no harm in deleting zeros. find optimal experience in addressing social problems and RID courts of voluminous cases assumed this hand on the other hand, this procedure is gradually breaking price emerged that may try to Rise as a result of this procedure. A fact that must not be forgotten that a number of officials were firing randomly media statements without pre-planning or knowledge and expertise of the economic effects which may result from the national economy's harm Arafat or unknowingly therefore reiterate the case to the stakeholders to the need to develop a programme to curb the large displays for long periods of time before the announcement of a delete zeros in order to cope with all possibilities or effects that may result from deleting zeros for de-authorization officials without clarifying tell them enough required you optimistic rhetoric and obvious compassion With the economy recovering weasana that have benefited http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iraqdirectory.com%2FDisplayNewsAr.aspx%3Fid%3D16355 [bondLady] this is about raising the 000 off the currency [bondLady] to curb inflation [bondLady] to remove the big amounts of the 000 that are in the market places and in iraq as a whole [bondLady] they needed to remove the majority out of circulation an destroy them thru the cbi [bondLady] it doesnt matter the currency we hold [bondLady] the important part is getting the 000 notes out of the market places etc in iraq [bondLady] by doing this this also adds value to the iqd [bondLady] supply and demand [bondLady] as ive said before [bondLady] even if all the rest of the world held the new lower denominations it wouldnt matter at all [bondLady] the thing that does matter is when we see the lower denominations and coins in the hands of the iraqi people [bondLady] then and only then should we see a real and valid exchange rate imo [bondLady] weve always said except for the lopsters which im totally not into a lop [bondLady] that when we see the ld's we see a new rate also [bondLady] and in the last article [bondLady] they talk of a day of the week for exchanges [bondLady] awsome [bondLady] next article brb [bondLady] CBI begins assessment of private banks throughout the country 30/07/2011 13:21 Baghdad, July 30 (Rn) - Deputy Governor of Central Bank of Iraq, Saturday, the Bank began to assess the work of 27 private banks throughout the country. The appearance of Mohammed Saleh told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) that "the Iraqi Central Bank began to assess the performance of 27 private banks according to the CAMEL system, which depends on capital and Assets, deposit, liquidity and banking services provided by private banks." He added, "Field Inspection Section at the Directorate General for the banking and credit control will take on the responsibility for evaluation and follow up the performance of private banks, which get a grade 1, it means at the top levels of its ability to provide banking services." [bondLady] He pointed out that the "degree of 2 means the value of banking transactions and a very good degree and 2B and the degree of 2B1 just a very good score and grades 4A and 4C and 4C2 means alone and needs to review its performance." And the Iraqi Central Bank announced on July 6, 20 private banks began to work according to the electronic clearing system, stressing that there are efforts to introduce government banks in this system. The World Bank allocated 10 million restructuring Dolarlaadh Iraqi government banks and activate the electronic dealings. Announced earlier in the unit re-Hiklhalmassarv that Iraqi unit has been extended to banks for one year because of security concerns. Iraq had decided in early 2006 and the restructuring of banks in order to get rid of the heavy debt. The Ministry of Finance of Iraq for its efforts over the next year to develop an integrated plan to develop e-government banks and financial relations in the activation of this aspect. The Iraqi government is still limited in its financial transactions on the banks approved by the government by 85%. And called on the Ministry of Finance earlier in the Iraqi Central Bank to take firm action in granting licenses for the establishment of private banks. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aknews.com%2Far%2Faknews [bondLady] so this kinda fits with the other 2 articles huh [bondLady] the assessment of the private banks [bondLady] make sure there up to par [bondLady] to be able to handle what is about to happen to there new money there economy and there country [bondLady] all the new projects [bondLady] iraq is quickly turnin into the oil boom town and new places homes stores buissnesses all types of things are being built daily [bondLady] people and companys and big money are pouring into iraq from all over the world [bondLady] the new frontier [bondLady] kinda like when america began [bondLady] the new frontier where u can go and find sucess [bondLady] live the american dream so to speak [bondLady] but in iraq as the world flocks to try to make there fortunes in iraq an take part of there infrastucture and the rebuilding of there country [bondLady] the banks have to be ready to handle all of whats about to happen to iraq [bondLady] an the cbi is on it there ready past ready imo to bring on the ld's ready to change the lives of the iraqis ready to finally be able to be proud of there money [bondLady] so am i lol [bondLady] hope this all helped and hope ive been accurate [bondLady] ty all for letting me bring these articles to u and give u all my opinon [frtlnrblues] BondLady one question [bondLady] drops the mic an walks off [player46] We have been waiting on those coins!! WOOOHOOO!!! Thank you BL!!! [redwing] BondLady --Excellent!!!--you are Rockin!!! [bondLady] ok frt [bondLady] tyvm red [bullymomma] TY [bondLady] yqw player [dogznova] Great Chat BL.... [bondLady] yqw bmom gm too [shredd] very nice BondLady [bondLady] tyvm dn [bondLady] tyvm shredders [seashell1] BondLady gm and ty ty [frtlnrblues] BondLady is that one day.....just one day, or a certain day a week for a period of time? [bondLady] gm seas an yqw hun [redwing] frtlnrblues --wondered the same [frtlnrblues] BondLady GM by the way [bondLady] did u read the same article i did frt? lol [bondLady] gm to u frt [shredd] BLC: The tip of the spear of dinar news!!! [frtlnrblues] BondLady did get to it passed by to fast, when I just got on! [bondLady] i cant make stuff up on it lol i wished i knew the day of the week i dont iw ish i knew how long it was gonna take i dont [COSMO] BondLady good morning and blessings to u our Lady! tyu for all u do [dogznova] So through the week for them means... Sun throu Thurs ? [bondLady] all we know kinda is it said it would pick a day of the week didnt say weekend [irvman] good morning [cranster] BondLady thanks, you even cheered up my cantankerous self this morning [irvman] cranster what did i miss? give me the news! [bondLady] gm cos and tyvm hun [frtlnrblues] BondLady OK....just can't see them doing this in country in just one day and teach the people! [bondLady] yes dn [bondLady] fri an sat is weekend to them

going into my debate on sunday, 6pm central, debate forum with a very sharp jmw, i come to wonder 1 thing. if you truely believe that iraq will rd, and screw every country that helped them become a free nation, why are you even here? are you guys trying to be the guru police? are you just negative in general? is your life so bad you try to ruin others? i dont get it. you guys do know your almost as bad as the okies, tk's, franks, loooongfellow's, and the rest of the totally out-landish. right? (i have been wrong, but never pumped or tried to mislead) lets say your guys act made 1 person sell there dinar, and it hits at .10 and they miss out on lets say 50grand, is that any worse than what okie has done over the last year? (okie is an idiot, i am not sticking up for him) and from what i am seeing cbi hasnt done anything yet, and from what i have seen there has been many that have sold. no disrespect. why are you guys here? why are you guys so negative?

Ok Friends, Here ya go... I listen to Tony Breitlings audios regularly, as I like his logical train of thought, So, I learned that asking the right questions will get you the right answers.... and that regularly he states that when he cashes in, he's just going to go to BofA, and that regularly everyone says it so much cheaper to go to ALI or other places, that only charge a FLAT RATE for the exchange(Ali says $150 per Million IQD), instead of going directly to a local bank of my choice... everyone has heard this... Well Now here is my story... I have avoided getting involved in Rumors or BANK STORIES, on purpose, cause I hold my cards close to the chest in games like this... So today the Bank of America is open from 9am to 2pm on Saturdays, and I go in to cash a check, and use my debt card to avoid monthly account charges! So my friend is the Bank Manager in this branch, not a teller, not a greeter, THE MANAGER... and I'm thinking to myself, How can i get some good currency Info(Reliable Info), and not tip my hand to them, so i start the conversation asking about random currency exchange questions and policies, knowing that I do not want to explicitly ask about the IQD, i ask about currency exchanges in general... Questions like these... "What does the bank charge for a percentage on currency exchanges?", "How do they get the rate or updates on the rate?", "Who designates the rate of exchange?" and "How does the exchange occur...CASH?...ACCOUNT DEPOSIT?, HOW?" So here is what she answered me to the questions I asked... "What does the bank charge for a percentage on currency exchanges?" "She Said: that the bank does not charge a percentage to exchange currency, it is an even exchange for the rate!" "How do they get the rate or updates on the rate?" "She Said: Every Morning they get an update from the TREASURY!" "Who designates the rate of exchange?" "She Said the FED is the one that designates the RATE and it is updated daily, every morning!" "How does the exchange occur...CASH?...ACCOUNT DEPOSIT?...DAYS WAITING TO BE AUTHENTICATED... HOW?" "She Said: The exchange is made at the teller window, They have a big book listing all acceptible currencies, and unless it is done by a drop deposit transaction in the drop box, or by a private banker, which then the transaction is done privately in a confidentially stall, for the customers benefit, and that usually for larger transactions an appointment would be nice to schedule ahead of time, but the appointment is not needed if the customer would like to wait for their turn, in the banks waiting area!" SO, being myself, an inquiring mind... I went on to ask more questions, I still did not mention the IQD, as I did not want her to clam up and feel uncomfortable .. So I asked: "How does the bank make money on the transaction if they make no percentage on the transaction?" "She told me that the rate comes directly from the FED and they payout that specified rate, but that the rate they pay, does not mean that, the rate paid to customers is the same rate the FED pays the BANK for redemption of the currency!" We also talked about the spread between the BUY and SELL Prices, and "How to BUY CURRENCY the buyer pays the SELL RATE, and to SELL CURRENCY the seller pays the BUY RATE, and How confusing this process was to the average customer... SO, Seeing my chance to clarify this further I made an analogy to her... I said: "So it is kinda like Pop Bottles, the deposit rate that i receive from the bottle, is like the FED rate that banks pay directly to their customers for the transaction, and as such, the store who redeems the Pop Bottles is not doing this for free, they have employee labor involved and temporary storage, as well as liability while in storage, and so, the Distributor or Bottler whom buys the Pop Bottles back from the store, Provides them a greater rate than the pay-out transaction rate, that the customer receives from the store!" She Said: YES, Exactly, that she had never thought of it like that, as she never considered the comparison, but that this analogy I provided her was an excellent example of the process, that the BANK experiences!" SO, the moral of the story is: That the FED can set whatever rate they want to redeem foreign currency, and that the IMF sets guidelines to the rate, but that does not mean that the FED has to offer that rate, they could offer more or less, just like currency traders do, and just because standardized rates are stated by the FOREX or IMF or CENTRAL BANK, the FED can specify any rate it wants, and if you do not like the rate of exchange, you can exchange the currency to another exchange source, on the open market! Understandably, like any other thing in life, the value of anything is what it is worth to whom wants it... and the fact is, that BANKS can not exchange your money and then take it to a foreign country to trade it in, THEY MUST use the FED as the Middle Man for the transaction to get their money back, Simple as that... and the bank does make a profit on the transaction, outside of the stated rate of exchange when they redeem it to the FED... PLEASE UNDERSTAND, this is only BANK of AMERICA practices, or so I was directly told by the BANK MANAGER, other banks could and probably do have other practices internally, and other policies specific to that bank! BUT when the time comes, "Do Not Be Afraid to go to your bank and ask what the percentage is on the foreign currency transaction?" BEST WISHER, Hope this helps, Proteus

Love this quote! __________ Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes I've heard in all this drama about the debt ceiling: "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told Becky Quick. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election." http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx?post=b17560ae-fbd9-4447-8564-f73a8f254637

Just an FYI to all members here. I have been contacted via email by someone who claims to be an attorney and also claims to represent some of the people mentioned in this thread. This "so called" attorney requested that I remove this thread and also any mention of the people discussed in this thread from the site due to the defamatory nature of the content. (I say "so called" because the attorney emailed from a yahoo address and the request is completely unenforceable, and therefore somewhat humorous.) come on, guys - really?! "Remove any mention of these people"?!?! That's a bit silly, in my opinion... DD is not Fight Club, and this isn't a cult. It's an open forum where the members are allowed to state their opinions. However, please note the following: 1. I am a strong believer in freedom of speech - so long as you keep your comments respectful, you are all allowed to express your opinions here (unlike so many other sites). 2. The people being discussed in this thread put themselves in the spotlight, and made public figures of themselves. Anyone who willingly becomes a public figure should expect to be discussed. 3. So long as nothing illegal is happening here, I will defend the members (YOU) and your right to share information. With those points made, I want to make it very clear that: 1. Defamation and libel will not be tolerated on DinarVets.com nor any other site I own or manage. 2. Public information may be shared, but you may not share information that was obtained illegally. 3. So long as the law is followed, I will defend your rights to share information. The definition of "defamation" is as follows: Anybody found to be intentionally posting false information with the intent to harm in any way will be immediately banned for life. If something is a rumor or your opinion, do not state it as fact - make sure it is apparent that you are stating your opinion. Carry on.

Well honestly speaking DD was a great place to get news about the Dinar until I found Dinar Vets. Since I joined Dinar Vets though there is little need for other sites.

* DD Site… VERY IMPORTANT!!! July 29th, 2011 09:17 am · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info), TIDBITS (another site Info) All, I am posting this as an announcement to something that was decided upon recently between myself and Treasury Vault. In the advent of their recent name change, and due to their desire to expand their company into additional markets beyond currencies, and specifically beyond the Dinar, they have given me an offer to be part of their team and I have chosen to accept this new challenge that will take me away from thinking about the Dinar 24×7. I am excited to be part of their team and growth. They have assembled an all-star team of attorneys who are ensuring they are in compliance in every possible way with every jurisdiction, business professionals who know what they are doing, and quality employees who do their best to add value anyway they know how. This has been a difficult decision for me, but I’ve chosen to accept this opportunity. Working for a currency dealer who happens to also sell Dinar would be uncomfortable for me because I allow “Rumors” and “Doozies” on my “HUB” of Dinar information that could give some the impression I am “pumping” dinar sales. Although it is my understanding through my team of attorneys that there is no actual or potential legal conflict of interest, I wish to avoid even the perception of a conflict of interest between what I’m choosing to do in my employment and what I have done for so long as another site here on another site’s Tidbits, another site’s Chat, The Weekly Tidbit, and Tidbits Radio. So, you’ll notice I no longer have those links or sections up on “Tidbits“. Should you choose to expose yourself to that information going forward through reading the “Rumors” and “Doozies”, feel free to use the links within my “Resources” section of my site to take you to other sites that share such content. Anyone who has followed me for any extended period of time knows I am VERY CAREFUL and one of the most conservative among those who own sites. I hold the position with which I’ve found myself very seriously, and have always been honest in my dealings with all of you in every way, probably to the point of prostrating myself when I haven’t needed to to ensure your trust of me. I have pulled away in the past 3-4 months because I’ve been very disappointed in the information I’ve been receiving and because of some personal issues I’ve been making my priority. I’ve also had absolutely nothing to share I felt was legitimate, so I’ve remained quiet. I have learned through sad experience that counting on something to come to fruition is never the way to go. I am choosing to do all I can now to ensure I provide for my family, and Treasury Vault has given me an opportunity with them that I am very excited about. I know some will not like this change, and some may even choose to blast me and place themselves in a situation where they will be accountable to me for libel. Due to my change, I will NOT take it sitting down, and will act quickly and decisively should I find information out there that is blatantly false, misleading, accusatory, and falls within what would be considered libel by law. In fact, some already have placed them in this situation through their vicious and false claims about me in the past and recently and will be dealt with quickly. I’ve been blasted for 2 years now by so many people that it’s reached the point to where I am numb. It’s amazing how hurtful people can be through their words and lies. All I can say is don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I feel I’ve shown the Dinar community I am honest and transparent. “By their works ye shall know them….” I would hope you feel that what I have done and continue to do for all of you is proof of who I am to you. If not, I won’t try to change an opinion, but will continue on with my plans as another site, as an employee of Treasury Vault who will be expanding their markets. I will continue to sell them advertising space on my sites and radio show, and will occasionally allow them to post an announcement here and there. Either way, I will be involved in one capacity or another, and as such I give my word to ensure everyone who chooses to work with them will be dealt with honestly, fairly, and protectively by me. Bottom line, another site will have your back should you choose to work with Treasury Vault in choosing to exchange your money for the currencies, products, and other services they offer now and in the future. There’s just too much at stake for them as a company, and for me personally, to provide anything other than excellence in working with you. I know you have experienced that here with me. 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I hope the majority will see this as a tremendous opportunity to work with me even closer, as I have far more to lose than gain by including my name with that of Treasury Vault. Again, I will remain as another site. I am still in the process of rolling out Investor Tidbits my investment information reference site. That project is getting closer to completion every day. I’m also still working on my iPhone App. As far as my efforts with Treasury Vault, I will simply have additional responsibilities, most of which will have nothing to do with Dinar. My efforts for them will deal with several other products, markets, and services beyond the Dinar that many of you have inquired about that you wish to gain access to. I love that I will be working with a company who has the desire to expand their offering to meet your demand and I look forward to being your voice to them going forward on any additional products and services. 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I'm just sick of everything.......RV already so I can go on with my life. Amen.

Now I am really confused. Who am I supposed to be angry with? The iraqi Government who does nothing for its people - they just threaten and shout, wave their arms and run about.... or... the U.S. Government who does nothing for its people - they just threaten and shout, wave their arms and run about? Oooooohhhh Yeahhhhh, now I remember, We wanted them to have a government just like us. Wellllll...We won! (I think)

Just a quick word to end this "Scam crap". No one sold you something that is worthless. You didn't buy the deed to the Statue of Liberty or a beach condo in Arizona. Stop all that "poor-me" whining about people being scammed. Are you not able to take responsibility in your acts as a sovereign human being in this economical reality? As you buy yoghurt, you decided to buy dinars. No one forced you. You could have done your homework. Google "Iraqi dinars" and you'll see the pro and con information. Dinar traders use advertising and try to sell their product. Today I bought a tub of ice-cream which said "Made with fresh milk!". As apposed to what? Milk that's off?? Are the other ice cream brands scamming me? I hate those victims, with their poor me mentality. You should take responsibility for your actions. The dinars you bought are real. They represent the currency of Iraq. It might Lop ( you might make 300% profit) or it might RV or it might be worthless. And then you lost money. Big deal. No one will amputate your arm, or take your ovaries or rape your dog. In general, it's important to resonate positive feelings and confidence about what you do. Affirm your strategy. Believe in what you've done. Radiate positive energy. The Universe will respond to that. If you radiate "poor me", the universe will give you experiences in that field, as you it simpy gives you what you ask for. But make sure you're specific. Remember the guy who saved the little fairy in the woods. She said: I will grant your wish! He said: I want my shlong to reach the ground!! Next thing: she amputated his legs! GREETINGS

Stay grounded, stay upbeat, and be happy in this thread! Let the Official "Pink Piggy" "Baconator" countdown begin!

it, to me looks like we are going to get our rv, they have the coins and will release them first til all the paper is returned. i wish the translation was better. "small currency acceptable to the Iraqi market, if the value is planning to make the dinar value against the dollar and this is through the printed coins to strengthen Iraqi currency" it looks like they want the dinar to be worth the dollar, it would make the most sense, all oil is paid in usd .........now our dollar isnt really worth a dollar though, i believe its worth more like .70 some cents. He Mohammed Saleh:" we have set aside a day of the week lnstkobl of small currency banks damaged noudaha modern categories without any cost, noting that the Central Bank stands ready to provide the banks with any amount of small coins" granted saleh talks out of both sides of his mouth, but if he is correct, it looks like they want to pick a day real soon to do this. how can they have small coins at 1170, goods dont cost less, they would have no other option but to raise the value, if the coins are 25 dinar-50 dinar-100 dinar coins they would have to be close to the us dollar to avoid confusion. it would be good to know the denoms of the coins, then we could better speculate on the rate. p.s dalite happy b-day tomm.

Wow 4 negatives?? LOL i agree EZ I feel like he has left for other opportunities that have only come up because of the dinar investment..it really makes me respect Adam even more, I cant IMAGINE the carrot's that have been dangled in front of him to leave, or change up the DV site for more profit...seems more and more Adam is the constant in this crazy dinar investment, and for that i salute him...thanks again Adam!!

A lot of truth in this one! make sure you read to the end Wal-Mart vs. The Morons 1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day. 2.This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St.. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco + K- Mart combined.. 5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English. 6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the U S A of which 2,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago.. 11.This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at Wal-Mart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a Wal-Mart. 13. Wal-Mart has gross sales that total more than the total revenue of all the countries in the world, except 6 nations. You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run Wal-Mart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, What ever party, E V E R Y O N E !! To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature, both parties. It is now official - you are ALL corrupt morons: A The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke. B Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke. C Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke. D War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. E Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke. F Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke. G The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is powerless to accomplish its mission. H The Department of Education was created in 1980 to “promote student achievement and preparation for global competitiveness by fostering educational excellence and ensuring equal access.” It has about 5,000 employees (it is hard to tell since all of these educated people can’t count or add or multiply, let alone do higher math accurately) with a budget in excess of $71 billion a year and HS graduation rates are plummeting while ACT/SAT scores are dropping through the basement. You had 29 years to get it right and it is an abject failure – an “F” for you in academia who cannot read. I !!!You have FAILED – You MORONS !!! in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.... THE BANKING SYSTEM????? WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS... WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? Maybe it will end up in the e-mails of some of our "duly elected' (they never read anything) and their staff will clue them in on how Americans feel. if their staff can read! "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out."

The people looking for a government figure to reassure you of the RV is a joke. Look this is an investment period, like all investments you should base wether you get in or not on the researched information. If you get out of this investment is based on researched information. Most people are looking for there daily kool-aid to make them fell warm and fuzzy about this rving. My personal belief and fundemental reason i know this will RV is that Iraq has the most resources in the world and there currency is way under vauled. To me it's simple math.

From Dinar speculation: per Adam Montana The three major elements to a Revaulation of the Iraqi dinar are the HCL, the GOI, and Chapter 7. GOI (Government of Iraq)This one should be a no-brainer, but I’ll break it down. 8 years ago the value of the Iraqi Dinar plummeted and the country was thrown into darkness almost overnight. Since then, the country of Iraq has worked it’s way back from that devastation and they now have a pretty efficient democratic process in place! There could NEVER have been a revaluation of the now devalued Iraqi Dinar without a reasonably sufficient government to back it up. In my opinion, we now have a government that is sufficiently capable of handling a more valuable currency. GOI – CHECK!!!!!Unfortunately… this is only one of three necessary items. Here are the other two items: Chapter 7 restrictionsChapter 7 lifted – NOT YET. HCL (Hydro Carbon Law)HCL resolved – NOT YET Agreements are pending on BOTH of these items! I am hearing rumors that there is a push to get both of these items forced through at almost the same time. If this happens before Ramadan, I believe we could be seeing movement on the Dinar VERY soon! Ok--- looks like we still have 2 out of the three unresolved. July 30, 31 are the two remaining days before the beginning of Ramadan. Sunday being the first day of their business week ....... could be a target day for some big announcement. I am hopeful at least.

Mini Maliki, Fire the RV "Laser" !

ME TO!! Son of a bi*** i need the 12 step program!! On a sidenote these shots are going down quite nicely!! lol

i'am getting the impression that alot of people think that iraq is going to shut down during Ramadan which is furthest from the truth, it is a time of fast and refraining during sunrise to sunset. Nothing else will stop, everything will go on as "normal"

I was going to refrain from further comment until seeing and analyzing the answers to all questions submitted, but I have to say that I'm really disappointed in Sonny's post, and agree with Jim1Cor13's perspective. I think those who have expressed opinions regarding the RD/RV scenario have already made their reasoning abundantly clear, and yet many people STILL insist on using the "LOP" word with the obvious intent of fanning the flames of disention. Dalite, Drox, and JMW, have answered the "Why Are We Here" question about as well as it can be, and I would have to agree that I've seen none of those who have spoken intelligently about the likelihood of a RD/RV encourage anyone to sell their Dinars. In fact, I don't recall any even warning people not to buy more. The RD/RV scenario suggests that the Dinar will re-denominate, requiring the issuance of a new currency, with a value "greater" than its current value, whether that be roughly "equivalent" to the U.S. Dollar, or some unspecified higher amount. None of those "increases" can in any way be construed as the LOP which the gurus and pumpers have railed against for many years now as they have convinced so many people that each $1,000 invested was most assuredly going to turn into "MILLIONS" overnight. I think that virtually every one of us is painfully aware of the indisputable fact that the pumpers/liars have been wrong 100% of the time over the past 8 years, and that EVERY RV prediction to date has also been wrong. I look forward to the answers to the questions submitted, and would be absolutely thrilled if Sonny can present a valid argument for a straight RV to the amount he has been stating for several years now. Unfortunately, I have yet to see that explanation. Those who have stated that ultimately we all want the same thing are absolutely correct.

If I believed it was going to be a LOP, I and many other forex traders would not waste our time holding IQD. Why would we hold a worthless currency that would moderately increase when we could just keep our focus trading other currencies that are active and traded NOW? I definitely don't think it will be a lop but that is just my opinion.

THEY CAN NOT AND WILL NOT LOP, DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY LOP THEY WILL BE WORSE OFF THEN THEY ARE NOW, IF THEY LOP THERE CURRENCY STILL WANT BE RECOGNIZED, SO WHY WOULD THEY LOP.....

Why does rtrusty need to get a life? Surely this is a very important issue. Obama didn't get to be President all on his own. Maybe we might start to see the faces of the secret and corrupt cabal that put him there and pulls his strings to suit their agenda.

Now that our ten day window has passed and Iraq taking the month off---we should at least pass the time with some big, fat Juicy Rumors brought to us all in one post---- by none other than our fastest, most reliable and trustworthy-----EASYRIDER! What'dya say Easy? Where you been? Why'd you quit posting all the daily rumors? If people don't want to read them, they don't have to---forget the bashers, do what you do---Bring it, entertain us again. Could be a long boring month otherwise. Thanks!

This is a very interesting article. The article came from the Iraqi Gazette. Saleh is calling for the RV and stating that the coins are part of the RV but willl enter circulation after the paper currency (lower denominations) are put into circulation. He attributed the reasons for changing the Iraqi currency was the result of inflation happening in Iraq Is it just me or does this last line have an indication that this may have already happened?? Economic adviser: Draft feminine change currency cash in line with economic growth 27/07/2011 BAGHDAD - Iraq's future Expressed surprise appearance of the central bank adviser Mohammed Saleh decided to delay a project to change the coin by the executive and legislative branches, saying that the project contributes to come out of economic problems and conflicts in Iraq. BAGHDAD - Iraq's future Surprised at the appearance of the central bank adviser Mohammed Saleh, a project to change the delay to decide the currency by the executive and legislative branches, saying that the project contributes to the out of economic problems and conflicts in Iraq. He attributed the reasons for changing the Iraqi currency was the result of inflation happening in Iraq as well as improve the value of the Iraqi currency, called on the government to speed up the feminine in the Iraqi currency and re-structure to facilitate cash transactions and projects. He stressed the need for feminine Iraqi currency because Iraq has today (30) trillion Iraqi dinars, indicating that with the growth of the economy will grow this money, and thus is enriched these figures on the property itself, while will be numbers Mrhqh, and commensurate with the facility or create a system reforms cash soft and easy to . And put on the timing of the coin, and whether it will precede the process of deleting the zeros? Between the benefit that the coin will be within the structure of currency and within the existing project and will be the currency after the deletion of zeros from the currency paper. He explained that the purpose of the coin is to cover the transaction currency, considering the small groups of fast trading, especially as the age of the coin longer than cash, as well as that coin will be the proof of the strength of the Iraqi currency. Saleh called on to encourage and support this step as a positive impact on the Iraqi economy. The central bank decided to introduce coins as part of his plan to restructure the currency, which requires government approval and the Council of Representatives for a strategic plan that it will contribute in supporting the Iraqi dinar's value in financial trading. http://translate.goo...ir=auto|en&rurl= translate.google.com&tbb=1&u=http://www.almustakbalpaper.net/ArticleShow.aspx%3FID%3D6357&usg=ALkJrhg98ueYI2csB xEnr4tYqpSFDGljMQ

You know i started to dig a little deeper and found the consequences of an RD to be almost catstrophic. People that believe in the method of them Rding that is fine i think otherwise. They believe we have one tracked minds and only believe in a BIG RV. Let me ask you this why do you dance around the fact redenominations have major consequences for countries trying to get foreign investors to invest and countries that are in major developments. There are definitely pros and cons to everything and YES even an RD.... If they were def. going to RD why havent they DONE it yet and why are they still in talks about it??? Costs and Risks of Currency Redenomination 1.Cost of printing new notes and minting new coins. In the long-run this cost may be offset by the reduced number of notes that will be printed in future due to the reduction in the amount of notes for transactions. 2.The cost of disposing of the old notes and coins. This is likely to be small but there is a risk that some of the old notes may be re-circulated or round-tripped. It has been reported in some countries that officials who were charged the responsibility of destroying the exchanged (old) notes and coins secretly “smuggle” then back into circulation to be re-exchanged into the new currency. This could result in multiple “round-tripping” of the old currency which can fuel inflation. Therefore, the banking authorities must ensure that notes and coins withdrawn do not find their way into circulation. 3.The cost of public education and advertising the change to citizens. This could be substantial. 4.The cost of exchanging the old currency for the new currency in terms of man-hours lost in waiting in banking halls, changing records and dual accounting in both old and new currencies during the “interim” period. 5.Risk of massive disruption in the pricing mechanism in the economy and short-term inflationary pressure arising from the “announcement effect”. No matter the assurances from the CBN, a major economic policy like currency change is bound to trigger inflationary pressure due to the uncertainty such changes generate. However, the inflationary impact may be curtailed with effective public education and anti-inflationary policies, e.g. ensuring abundant supply of petroleum products and stable prices of petroleum products and government-provided services. In a country with a low level of financial literacy like Nigeria, determining new prices for goods and services could be a challenge for many traders, farmers and operators in the informal sector. 6. It took the European Union about five years from the decision to introduce the Euro currency to its full implementation, i.e. from 1998 to 2002.[v] 7.The uncertainty and instability that is inherent in major changes in economic policies in most developing countries could lead to increased speculation, capital flights, drop in foreign remittances, increased risk aversion, adoption of “wait-and-see” attitude by investors and increased sharp practices. 8.Likely short-term increase in the rate of armed robbery because robbers will flood banking halls and trail those who have exchanged large sums of old money for new ones. There is also a likely increase in other fraudulent activities and financial “scams”. For instance, since the announcement of the redenomination and the introduction into circulation of the new notes and coins in July 2007, several cases fake new Ghanaian cedis have been reported under spectacular headlines in their newspapers ”. You can trust that Nigerian fraudsters are already at work perfecting their strategies to take advantage of the proposed redenomination of the naira.

I have read posts in the past saying we should all just ignore the pumpers and not go out and by more dinar based on their "intel". That is easier said than done when you are a "newbie" and just reading the guru posts for the 1st time. Admittedly I did not do the due diligence that was necessary prior to purchasing my dinar from Ali at dinar trade. I was told about this by a very close friend, went on the internet and read the dinar scam posts but then read more on the dinar websites and felt there was some legitimacy to the possible pending rv claims. 3 of my close friends and I decided to dive in and buy some dinar. Based on some of the pumper intel we rushed to our banks and wired funds or purchased cashiers checks. We were so nervous it might rv prior to receiving our dinar. I am sorry to say we fell for more pumper "intel" the next week also and rushed to the bank once again. In our group of 4 is an accountant, a tax lawyer, a Wells Fargo VP and a corporate CEO. While we all should have known better we were hyped up from the false intel and figured we would kick ourselves if this happened and we neglected to take advantage of this opportunity. WE WERE ALL SUCKED INTO THE PUMPER VORTEX AND PURCHASED MORE DINAR BASED ON THEIR INTEL. Of coarse after a few weeks of realizing their imminent rv predictions were false, we stopped any additional dinar purchases. There are always more newbies buying dinar and I felt it was necessary to try and identify and expose these people and bring them out into the light. Wherever there is a significant amount of money to be made unscrupulous people will crawl out from under their rocks to prey on others. How frightening is it that many of these pumpers are changing their strategy to sell trusts and other investments? What makes them qualified to do so? I will continue to follow the news and visit DV on a daily basis until this ride ends. If nothing else I am definitely now pretty much of an expert on Iraq. Coolbeans and my other investigative dv members, keep up the good work. Thank you Adam for allowing this platform for many of us to try and EXPOSE these pumpers for what they are. As always GO RV. By the way, if you were curious Sorry, didn't finish my post above. I meant to say if you were curious, my Wells Fargo friend was never able to confirm any of the ridiculos WF bank stories. Excuse any typo's. It's difficult to type and edit errors on my ipad... Meant to type ridiculous.....

8Ball Chat 7/29/2011 ul 29 5:43 PM [8ball] Iraqi Navy and Kuwaiti implemented first-ever joint military --- Friday, July 29, 2011 Jul 29 5:43 PM [KingWm] 8ball to your knowledge, was chapter 7 lifted yesterday like the rumors say? Jul 29 5:45 PM [8ball] Well if the Iraqi Navy is excercising with the Kuwaiti Navy Jul 29 5:45 PM [8ball] I believe it is Jul 29 5:46 PM [KingWm] hmmm...well, there was an okie rumor stating they had seen the minutes of the meeting and that it had been discussed and voted on yesterday Jul 29 5:46 PM [8ball] Interior is about to sign an agreement with the U.S. Department of Justice to train Iraqi forces | شارك | Share بتوقيت: 29/07/2011 18:45 GMT: --- Jul 29 5:48 PM [8ball] Maliki in parliament session Saturday to discuss the government program | شارك | Share 29/07/2011 18:12 --- Jul 29 5:51 PM [8ball] In the development of a rare, shipments of Iraqi oil from Basra heading to Europe | شارك | Share Oil tanker to a port of Basra بتوقيت: --- Jul 29 5:55 PM [ericsmillions] sorry, seen the minutes on what KingWm???????? Jul 29 5:56 PM [KingWm] that UN meeting yesterday...that is what the rumor said Jul 29 5:56 PM [8ball] $1Billion in Iraqi Reparations Released to Kuwait VOA - [7/29/2011] --- Jul 29 5:56 PM [ericsmillions] oh ok...........thanks Jul 29 5:57 PM [smurf] 2.2 mil in oil to china and now to europ is iraq paying debt Jul 29 5:58 PM [smurf] barrels Jul 29 6:02 PM [8ball] Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi said he was in talks with the prime minister, Noor al-Maliki, on how to go ahead with the bid to issue dinars with lower denomination and higher appreciation. --- Shabibi said Iraqis were now relying a lot on the U.S. dollar, particularly in settling cash transactions that required a lot of money. --- Jul 29 6:03 PM [AMG55] Just FYI, I called my Rep and two Senators this morning.... Left messages to "get this debt thing done." Jul 29 6:03 PM [AMG55] Well, 8ball that sounds like great news! Jul 29 6:03 PM [KingWm] 8ball sounds good...SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jul 29 6:03 PM [AMG55] Maybe our money is over there!!!! Jul 29 6:03 PM [8ball] Awesome ...did you tell him to peg the value of gold and silver Jul 29 6:04 PM [AMG55] No... But, I can call again! Jul 29 6:04 PM [AMG55] I sure they will get to know me "soon" Jul 29 6:04 PM [8ball] thats probably what they are doing Jul 29 6:05 PM [AMG55] I don't have a very high regard for my Representative... I have lived here 20 years and he and I have only agreed on one issue the whole time.... Jul 29 6:06 PM [8ball] Shabibi --- The new arrangement, once carried out, will make transactions simpler and easier, the Central Bank governor said. Jul 29 6:06 PM [8ball] I like simplier and easier..... Jul 29 6:06 PM [kelsguy1113] my transactions will be easier as well!! Jul 29 6:07 PM [8ball] same here Jul 29 6:07 PM [8ball] Jul 29 6:08 PM [8ball] Shabibi --- Calculating and paying with the current currency makes trade deals rather “awkward and difficult” for a small country like Iraq, Shabibi said. Jul 29 6:10 PM [8ball] He added that "the draft coins in 2004 was not successful because it has not been as comprehensive reforms to support the financial value of the Iraqi dinar in the global market." Topic: Question with Boldness - Hold to the Truth - Speak without Fear - Be Respectful and Considerate of All 6:11 PM [kelsguy1113] This is all pretty revealing... 6:11 PM [8ball] The Central Bank of Iraq decided to restructure the local currency in order to develop the payment system in the country last June 22nd. 6:11 PM [8ball] that was jine 22nd 2011 6:11 PM [kelsguy1113] Shabs has been getting more and more bold with his statements 6:11 PM [8ball] june 6:12 PM [kelsguy1113] Do you think he has been trying to force the deal? 6:12 PM [8ball] yes 6:12 PM [kelsguy1113] well, hopefully hos meetings with M wil bring this to a swift end 6:12 PM [8ball] He expressed the IMF last August to support the Iraqi economy in the event of having a number of economic measures including the privatization of banks and raise three zeroes from the local currency and to meet debt and compensation is the responsibility of Iraq. 6:13 PM [8ball] what he said id that the IMF will support the Iraqi economy in August 6:13 PM [8ball] is 6:15 PM [kelsguy1113] so we are looking at September then? 6:15 PM [8ball] Hard to tell..... 6:16 PM [8ball] If they don't getr done this weekend they will most likely slip through Ramadam 6:16 PM [8ball] Which would probably be what the US would want 6:17 PM [AMG55] Just curious, 8ball, why would the US want this later rather than sooner? 6:17 PM [kelsguy1113] good ?? 6:17 PM [8ball] closing the door on possible taxes 6:18 PM [8ball] where the more time we have with the money we can defer taxes 6:19 PM [AMG55] You mean new legislation to increase our taxes as investors or do you mean past the window of the debt ceiling? 6:19 PM [8ball] US would like to see the whole piece of pie 6:19 PM [8ball] no debt ceiling is another issue 6:19 PM [8ball] timing of the RV 6:19 PM [8ball] and how much tax they will pull in 6:21 PM [AMG55] OK, sorry, still not exactly on same page... Won't that depend on whether we as investors are in "short term" or "long term" status? Wouldn't the sooner the RV the better for them? 6:21 PM [8ball] thats another issue in how it is taxed 6:21 PM [8ball] just winding down 2011 6:21 PM [8ball] removing aby way if defering taxes 6:22 PM [8ball] any 6:22 PM [AMG55] Personally I am mostly all long term now unless they change how this is taxed... For instance... and again -- just me -- the longer they wait, the more I have that will be "long term"??? 6:22 PM [AMG55] Oh, you mean changing the "loopholes" for deferring? 6:22 PM [AMG55] I think I got it... 6:23 PM [8ball] not chnaging just running your time out 6:25 PM [AMG55] Well, I don't think I have "deferred" much! Ha... So, if that is their "calculus" -- surprise, surprise.... Trying to think how one would have "deferred" unless they had capital gain in real estate or a trust or 401K? Guess I still don't get the dinar connection, sorry... 6:26 PM [8ball] well if you cashed in tommorow you would have until Oct 31st to declare your tax right off's or defering taxes 6:26 PM [8ball] that time is running out 6:27 PM [8ball] abd they would want you as close to that date as possible 6:27 PM [sFCDiaz] House passes Boehner’s debt ceiling plan 6:28 PM [AMG55] Ok, I guess if you are paying quartlerly... got it now... 6:32 PM [8ball] the point is that they would want to see as much tax as they could get 6:32 PM [8ball] out of the RV 6:32 PM [8ball] and they would want you as late in 2011 as possible 6:32 PM [8ball] Iraq though will have a say 6:32 PM [8ball] and it looks like August 6:33 PM [AMG55] We all hope you are correct 8ball! 6:33 PM [8ball] well its the articles which the Iraqi's are saying tha tthey will get IMF support in August 6:34 PM [AMG55] Are/were these articles before or after Kahn's removal? 6:35 PM [AMG55] Or do you remember... don't mean to put you on the spot... Sorry. 6:36 PM [8ball] they were after 6:37 PM [AMG55] Ok, thanks... 6:37 PM [8ball] Khan must of did something or said something to the wrong people 6:34 PM [AMG55] Are/were these articles before or after Kahn's removal? 6:35 PM [AMG55] Or do you remember... don't mean to put you on the spot... Sorry. 6:36 PM [8ball] they were after 6:37 PM [AMG55] Ok, thanks... 6:37 PM [8ball] Khan must of did something or said something to the wrong people 6:39 PM [kelsguy1113] Isn't the RV a requirement for the IMF support? 6:39 PM [Clay] 8ball August is good 6:40 PM [8ball] kelsguy1113 --- yes 6:40 PM [kelsguy1113] or atleast the requirements that would force andRV 6:40 PM [Clay] is o about this in YO or not 6:40 PM [8ball] Banks are all connected 6:40 PM [Clay] 8ball 6:40 PM [8ball] electronically 6:40 PM [8ball] that held things up 6:41 PM [8ball] until end of June

I just want the Dinar to RV so I can go and post on the Dong board.

WOW WHAT A POST THANKS

mmmmmm. I don't think that anyone is losing faith in the RV here. I think our fellows who pretended to be neutral, attending to the dinar holders best interests and appeared to bring information forward that was of the utmost integrity and intelligence are actually the very circle of fast cons that nobody wanted to be involved with in the first place. I believed DD when he said he was neutral and invested in the Dinar community. Appears I was wrong and he IS a liar and an opportunist. It's a shame really. I had, for more than 6 months, put my faith in him and believed that he was bringing forth the very best information and was neutral even in his tidbits, posts etc. NOT SO. So is this it? Everybody sells out if the price is right??? To mislead so many and if this FBI event wouldn't have taken place at another site, who knows how long DD would have kept his dirty little secret. Just for the record, I don't have a problem with entreprenuers creating a great business and creating abundance for themselves and helping others to prosper as well, in fact it lights my fire to hear of these things. I just don't like people (let's just call them dirtbags for lack of a better term) saying one thing while intentionally doing another. And just so that we are clear hear Roger has been secretly building and promoting his own dinar sales while all the while saying he wasn't involved in any such activity. And hosting regularly the very persons who pumped additionally the sales of the dinar on his website. NOTE TO ROGER (as I know he reads this forum under an assumed name) I am appalled and disappointed in your incredible lack of integrity and honesty. It sort of makes everyone and everything associated with your website and your dealings.....well.....dirty. Namaste.

Hi sonny1 Just one more thing to try to have this balanced. I took the time to review many of your past posts my friend. I truly think that a few of the things I read you state over the last year, especially this last February 28th in which you made the following statement...and I quote from your own chat: Sonny1 Chat: Dinar Vets 2/18/11 3pm February 18, 2011 [sonny1] kcw everything is good [ajob] sonny1 what was Adam talking about yesterday concerning what you told him? [sonny1] ajob what do you mean? [ajob] did you read adams chat [sonny1] ajob no, i dont read anyones chat, i think i know more than everyone else. j/k [sonny1] but no i didnt read it [ajob] Ok [sonny1] ajob why? What did it say? [ajob] Adam said that he spoke to sonny and he had shared some info but he would not tell us what it was [sonny1] i am excited, this ride should be over before the 25th [sonny1] FINALY [ajob] do you have some spicific info that makes you feel that way other than the pressure that is coming form the uprising going on [sonny1] i realy dont want to go into it, i am not holding back, it has to do with the talk i had with my m.e bud, who is the only one in the history of the internet dinar thingy who has ever been right [kcw] sonny1 how are your peeps in Dubi? Is Dubi hit with protests yet? [sonny1] kcw not yet, that is who gave me some good info [cws] i will take it as good news [sonny1] cws very good [sonny1] if iraq doesnt do it by next friday…..there wont be an iraq anymore [scooby Doo] doin great … heard you were excited [sonny1] Scooby Doo i am the most excited i have ever been about this thing [scooby Doo] that’s what I want to hear [sonny1] if the budget passes on sunday, it will rv next week [scooby Doo] das whut I’m talkin bout! sonny1] if they let this 800,000-1mil man protest take place next week, iraq will fall, and our investment will crumble [sonny1] but the u.s wont let that happen [Circlewood] do you think they can get the budget done by sunday? [sonny1] see all the projects that the people need done, need a tradeable currency to achieve, if they dont do something by next friday iraq will be no-more [kcw] sonny1 are you sure our current admin has the backbone to protect Iraq? [sonny1] Circlewood I DO [sonny1] kcw it doesnt matter, if iraq does the right thing in the next week, iraq will be fine [scooby Doo] sonny1 without revealing too much can you tell us if there is an urgency outside of Iraq too to get this done? [sonny1] Scooby Doo oh ya, everyone knows if it goes to major protest on the 25th, 20-30000 people will die, and it will set iraq back [sonny1] iraq is at the fork in the road, do the right thing and everything will be fine, if they dont there wont be an iraq [sonny1] people dont get how huge an iraqi protest like this is, thousands of deaths, there savage with alot of rage, and have no regard for human lives, and the leaders know this…..everything will get done [scooby Doo] but will an RV be enough to stop the rioting? [dinarrv9911] sonny1 As we all know, this is Iraq. So, it’s possible that they won’t do the right thing??? [sonny1] egypt’s protest will look like your at disneyworld compared to iraqs [sonny1] Scooby Doo yes, and alot of promises [sonny1] dinarrv9911 they could do anything, if it goes to this major protest, and the protest HAPPENS…..IM selling [Circlewood] I was reading Med’s chat,,,, and I agree we might not see the rv but rather a free market increase in the rate [sonny1] Circlewood free market economy will result in the rv [dinarrv9911] sonny1 So, I guess it’s “do or die” time….. [Circlewood] yeah that’s what I’m thinking too [sonny1] dinarrv9911 yep, finaly [scooby Doo] Is a free market the same thing as a free float? [Circlewood] Scooby Doo can be.. [sonny1] my dubai connection said he felt it wass 99% possible it rv’s next week. [Circlewood] market driven [sonny1] Scooby Doo kinda, you have to have a tradeable currency to have a free market economy [ajob] Circlewood I would have to disagree with Med’s assesment. Shabibi’s MO has been to control the rate. He will have a managed rate at whatever exchange he sets it at [sonny1] ajob ther are about 10 or so articles stating though that they are going to the free market economy Chat link --- Now I can say I totally understand why you would make that statement, but let me ask you something that you accused or implied against others that i find completely over the top...I ask you your OWN question: WHAT IF lets say your SELLING comment made 1 person sell there dinar, and it hits at .10 and they miss out on lets say 50grand, is that any worse than what okie has done over the last year? (okie is an idiot, i am not sticking up for him) and from what i am seeing cbi hasnt done anything yet, and from what i have seen there has been many that have sold. no disrespect. It works both ways my friend, and you make accusations that are unfair and are divisive. Then you accuse others as being "negative" and ask why are you here? Just trying to keep this balanced and fair which seems to be a difficult thing lately... but you DID start this sad thread. I'm perplexed my friend All my best! Jim ---

Hi sonny1 Well, my friend, clever tactic to try to increase division within this site. I find it regrettable that you would even start this kind of nonsense, then say "no disrespect". I have yet to see this kind of negative division from any so called "lopsters" or whatever other label is convenient as a defense. Are we ALL not in this for the same reason? Should we just ignore the fact of 7 years worth of rumors that has been the main support to this speculation? Is it wrong to understand ALL aspects of this speculation in order to be prepared for an eventual outcome whatever that may be? Amazing to say the least. Clever, but divisive to this forum. It is unfortunate to see this kind of game being played. There are NO sides...we ALL want the same thing but some of us refuse to drink from the same fountain that has caused so much damage over the years to those who have hung on every word of hype. Accusations such as this only reveal a pre-emptive attempt to take sides when there is only one motive by most on this forum...and that is we ALL would like to see this work out, but we cannot continue playing the mind games. All my best! Jim ---

Q: How do you starve an Obama supporter? A: Hide his food stamps under his work boots

"Who is on the otherside of the keyboard?" I ask myself that question numerous times each day, as well as most of you do to. I write this as a warning of sorts, being in chat alot I see people talking, asking questions, and having fun the longer your in chat the more comfortable you become with a name thinking you know them. But truth be told, you don't know them. I personally have made some friends here, but each one was approached very cautiously The question still remains do I really know these people, If I answered this question honestly the answer would be NO. Two things: You need to remember in chat, because of the type of investment this is and the return could be great there are those that will want to take advantage of people before and after. As a martial Arts Instructor I train women to be on the look out for men who wish them harm, Keep this in mind when chatting with others For the most part I believe that the majority of those in chat are as friendly as they say they are, so don't think everyone out there wants to get you, but PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT give out personal emails, and other information to strangers. As I tell my karate for kids, and tiny tigers remember these words " Stranger Danger" Hope all is well, and soon this ride will be over, GO RV DK

great read bondlady keep em coming..+1 for you..

Can you imagine how many coins it would take to buy a small cup of hummus? They'd need a dump truck full of them.... so if they're putting coins into circulation, they'll be raising the rate too.

Thankyou Smitty, for the post ... Love a good Saturday morning chat by BL GG good morning... Great to see you back !!!!!!

DITORIAL: Obama’s economic collapse July 29 2011 Rosy scenarios defeated by grim reality Smack in the middle of the debt-ceiling crisis comes word that the economic situation is worse than everyone thought. New Commerce Department figures show the gross domestic product (GDP) growing at an anemic 1.3 percent rate in the second quarter of 2011. Even more alarming, the initial first-quarter 1.9 percent figure was sharply downgraded to a scant 0.4 percent. If the second-quarter rate is later reduced that much, it would signal that the country is in a recession. Most Americans suffering during this historic downturn wouldn’t be surprised. The weak GDP numbers raise serious questions about the economic assumptions on which the various budget projections and debt-ceiling plans are based. Revenue projections assume an unrealistic growth rate of nearly 3 percent through 2020. The claimed savings in the plans - whether they are from the House, the Senate or the purported “secret” White House plan - are only cuts against projected spending. They are the equivalent of someone claiming to be frugal for not going on a planned unsustainable spending binge but instead just splurging on a moderately pricey shopping spree. While spending levels are hard numbers, the revenue side of the equation is soft; it is based on the amount of money the economy is expected to generate. When GDP drops, future revenue declines and deficits go up. Thus, even the Senate debt-ceiling plan, which seeks to take the issue off the table for the 2012 election, may no longer give President Obama and the Democrats the necessary margin of safety. The new numbers also show the widening gap between Mr. Obama’s promised economic performance and what he has delivered. His first budget was ironically titled “A New Era of Responsibility,” but the country saw the opposite. With comfortable Democratic margins in both houses of Congress, the government sought against common sense to spend the country into a robust recovery. But that’s not how markets work. The era of big government returned with a vengeance, and America has continued to teeter on the brink of collapse throughout the entire Obama term. The results of this reckless approach are clear. The first Obama budget promised GDP growth of 4.0 percent in 2011. Instead, the current annual rate is 1.3 percent, and year-to-date growth annualizes to less than 1 percent. The promised unemployment rate for 2011 was 7.1 percent, to drop to 6 percent in 2012. Actual June unemployment was 9.2 percent, up from 8.8 percent in March and showing no signs of declining. The projected 2011 federal deficit was $912 billion, which was supposed to be almost halved by 2012, to $581 billion. Unfortunately, the nation’s finances have gone in the other direction. The Congressional Budget Office now projects the 2011 deficit at $1.5 trillion. For purposes of comparison, the actual budget deficit for all of 2007 was $160 billion. Perhaps the United States needs to return to the old era of responsibility. Comparing economic reality to the promises of two years ago illustrates the shaky ground on which the war over the debt ceiling is being waged. All the plans, from every side of the spectrum, are exercises in prognostication that are certain to be wrong. The intense passions being generated over which plans “save” however many trillions of dollars over the next decade are a waste of energy. These plans are fictions based on unrealistically rosy scenarios. The only numbers that really matter are those on the bottom line. The real battle will come this autumn when Congress grapples with the coming fiscal year’s federal budget. That battle will truly separate those who want to do what it takes to save America from insolvency from the tax-and-spenders who pretend there is no crisis. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...omic-collapse/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IVMkIY7O7A4

I believe that in Iraq Saleh is the face of the CBI , He has , in an ongoing campaign caused the average Iraqi take preference with the USD over the IQD . The articles from him that we see are in country propaganda directed to collect as many 000s as possible pre RV. Once they have achieved the desired collection of the 000s it will happen. (this should be soon ) And then when the average Iraqi realizes the should have kept there Dinars , They will be able to blame the United States! again....LOL. Although I do also believe that in this interim the USD and the IQD will be 1-1 for a time period market dictates.

If what Roger stated a few months ago about losing his house is true, then I for one can't blame him for accepting the position. Many of us have felt the pain of the in the tank economy and for that reason I congraduate him. Now I wonder how much DD will suffer. As for news there's no site better than DV. IMO DD had the best entertainment sections (Rumors & Doozies) that was always up to date. Made it easy to read all the Guru entertainment without having to hit many different sites. I guess his relationship with Ali will not be the same and I would guess he won't be running the Salt Lake cash in site for DT. Has anyone else noticed that many of the other sites seem to be fading away? Sure says a lot for Adam, his staff,the mods and all the great people here. Good luck Roger on your new venture. Stay grounded, calm and be happy Go RV/RI.

Here is a rumor post with Okie's name on it...... Ladies and gentlemen.... Please google Okie Oil Man ..... you will find a common thread over the last year at least..... a little backgound... Okie has moved from two blog boards in the last few months to the point he needed his own website so his sheep could follow him.... Wednesday hype begins.... Thursday... hype becomes pressure for your last chance to buy dinar....Friday is the last day to buy dinar before it is a "Done Deal" .... Saturday all positive... Sunday is a day that it is all done and we get the rate ... Monday is cash in day..... " Nuff Said" I have enjoyed the ride..... but the BS is so unbelieveable and now it has turned to theats..... That goes for Blaino, Tony on TnT, Longfellow, Bluwolf, Atena and the rest of the guru pumpers..... you have no intel and if you think you do.... they are lying to you so stop listening to the Disneyland characters that you claim are feeding you the Gospel truth.... Listen to what you professed over the last four months and tell me why you now hide behind the phrase ... "Don't shoot me, I am only the messenger".... Time to say I DO NOT KNOW but IMO it will happen..... Prime example is that Iraq is out of Chapter VII today announced by the UNSC...... nothing was said about lifting the sanctions only the UNAMI was extended for a year... Is that good or bad.... I don't know what is in the master plan and neither does any othe Intel BS.... Do the reasearch and not be afraid to call BS on the gurus that have the only purpose to wind up the people that have put the money in the pot hoping to make a profit. I am not being negative... someday it will happen when and what rate.... it is a SWAG... that I will not make... As far as bringing the religious faction, that this is a Dinvine plan and we need to pray for it to happen, please give us a break that are running on logic not the scripture... I guess that is why the US Government is based on the separation of Church and State.... I have my beliefs and not need yours pushed on Me.... I seek factual things not what you think it should be. Provide the link, radio/tv braodcast and I will feel more comfortable in what you have to say,,,,, As what was said on a call the other day " I don't give a darn what you hear from who you think is in a 3 letter part of Gov, who is in any Gov position and what the banker you talked to.... not going to happen till the HCL and Chapter VII issues are settled" I tolerate the BS but will not tolerate threats by anyone that has a major ego posting problem against anyone in the same boat. I have posted in the past and I have never received a response. I stated I would wager a 25 k note to anyone that says, DONE DEAL and cash in on Monday and when that turns into an event that does not happen, pay up and take it like a man.... I have heard that so many times, I would have become rich cause my slogan would have been " Double Down and Let it ride"...... I am sorry that I felt the need to post this.... but the guy betting on it happening every weekend since NOV and bought more dinar with money they did not have, has been duped by the gurus.......... If this has been posted from someone other than OKIE, then I will make amens to OKIE directly. I doubt that will be necessary on my part.... * just posted by Okie: Dinar Recaps 7/28/11 July 28th, 2011 05:51 pm · Posted in RUMORS (Dinar Revaluation) 5:47 pm [OKIE OIL MAN] OK JUST ON HERE FOR A SHORT WHILE—–WHAT’S THIS ABOUT LONGFELLOW BEING BANNED??—I BETTER NOT FIND OUT WHO DID THIS OR WHO KICKED ME THE OTHER DAY OR THEY WILL BE HELL TO PAY. LONGFELLOW IS A VERY RARE ASSET IN THIS GAME AND SHOULD BE HONORED AND NOT BANNED. AND YES—THEY WERE CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS TODAY THAT YOU DON’T NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. THEY WERE ALL ON OUR BEFALF AND YES MALIKI IS IN D.C. SIGNING PAPERS NECESSARY FOR YOU AND I—UNDERSTAND?? I CAN’T MAKE THINGS ANY SIMPLER THAN THAT. AND YES CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU SEEK AND CAN NOT FIND ON THE INTERNET NOT ALL INFORMATION IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. YES CHAPTER 7 WAS LIFTED. TIME WILL PROVE THAT STATEMENT. YOU ARE WASTEING YOUR TIME TRYING TO PROVE EVERYTHING BY DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE THE CONTENTS OF SOME AGREEMENTS BETWEEN GOVERMENTS ARE STRICTLY PRIVATE. Enjoy the ride, books will be written, stories will be told, and if and when the rv happens, may it be used for good and not selfish ways Do me a favor.... If you answer this post ..pick the guru that you think should be banned from ever posting again..... I am sure I might get some votes.... But let's control the " DR> FEELGOOD BS POSTS"

For those of you not aware of my post yesterday, here is my response. For those of you who don't care one way or the other, please don't waste your time reading further. Mods, go ahead and do your stuff. Bashers, don't trample each other taking your pot shots. There's plenty of time while we wait for the RV. Here goes: Posted Today, 12:50 PM no left angles, on 28 July 2011 - 01:33 PM, said: what is the point and purpose of this article.....second...if this isnt your opinion then why post this.....or is it that you agree with this article.... FYI. this is question for the original poster.... im lost..... and another thing...i know these are question...and dont really care about punctuations. lol. , AND, THIS NOW BEGINS MY RESPONSE TO THE QUESTIONS PUT FORTH BY "NO LEFT ANGLES" For those of you that really care to know what I think or feel about, and why I even posted this opinion piece written by someone else, I shall avail you: I am an Iraqi Dinar investor. I come to this site and these forums exclusively for factual information that will help me prepare for the eventual revaluation of my investment. I do not come here to read anything about anyone's faith, religion, football team, favorite Guru, or anything else for that matter. I most certainly do not come here to read about anyone's political leanings, or favorite President. Instead, what mostly happens here is all of the above topics that have absolutely nothing at all to do with my investment, other than when someone speculates as to whether this or that has any significance to the IQD. In the past I would post responses to such stuff in hopes of putting it to rest, but such a bold accomplishment is left for people far greater, smarter, and more patient than me. Likewise, I have appealed to Adam Montana, and his Moderators, to at least provide separate and distinct specific forums for such topics of interest, and to diligently police all of the forums to make sure that they are not infiltrated with stuff unrelated to the IQD. His response was to provide the Opinions & My 2-cents Worth Forum, which is fine, but still does not address the real issue here. When I originally posted this yesterday, it was not long at all before it was moved to this section from the Rumor section. Yet, if you will go to the Rumor section right now, you will find a multitude of postings on all sorts of stuff that has nothing to do with an IQD. My intent in posting this was to provoke discussion firstly, and to see how long it would last in the Rumors section. I DO NOT either like or support the current President, although I foolishly voted for him. I am neither liberal nor conservative, Republican or Democrat. I also own and occasionally carry a handgun too, and will use it if provoked. I do not like the posturing of either of the politicians in Washington D.C., especially when it comes to the violations of the US Constitution, and my individual rights as provided by it. I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN BORN HERE, WITH 4 OF MY SEVEN CHILDREN CURRENT OR FORMER MILITARY PERSONNEL, OF WHICH ONE SHED BLOOD ON THE SANDS OF IRAQ, AND LIVED TO TELL ABOUT IT. I ALSO HAPPEN TO DEPEND ON SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS EACH MONTH FOR MY SUPPORT, FOR WHICH I HAVE WORKED MY WHOLE LIFE TO EARN, AND DO NOT APPRECIATE ANYONE THREATENING TO EITHER REDUCE OR STOP THEM FROM COMING. For those of you who care to know the truth of who is responsible for all of the debt this country now has, I provide a short article for download. It may surprise you, or it may not. I don't gives a rat's A$$ about the Tea Party, or any other political party. In my 62 years I have not had any political party serve my needs and purposes ever. What I have illustrated with the posting of the article was just how biased this website is, and many of the folks who come here daily. It is no different than this country as a whole. IT IS NOT THE MELTING POT IT CLAIMS TO BE, BUT A QUILT OF COMPETING FACTIONS ALL HOPING TO BE THE ONES WITH THE LARGEST STASH OF STUFF (MONEY, PROPERTY, POWER, ETC.) IN THE END. For those I have offended, and who hope I rot in hell to quote one of you, I express my sorrow at your true lack of understanding. I also hope for all our sakes that this RV occurs sooner than later so that you may proceed to complete your intended task of either building up, or tearing down this once great country. It is not a nation, never was, and probably never will be, for a nation is comprised of different peoples who share a common goal, rather than a geographic location necessarily. EVEN SO, I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR FURTHER COMMENTS IF YOU CHOOSE TO SHARE THEM. I AM NEITHER OFFENDED OR AFRAID TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY. AND, IF YOU WOULD RATHER A FACE-TO-FACE EXCHANGE, YOU MAY FIND MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS IN MY PROFILE. CONTACT ME, AND WE CAN CONTINUE THIS IN OTHER MORE SATISFYING WAYS. Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/77220-a-us-default-is-un-constitutional/#ixzz1TXFrQPZ9

So only those of us who invested in Dinar and still believe that we will be overnight millionares should be on this forum? Sounds like Sheeples Dinar to me. Hear there are many view points. Just because we believe a RD is likely doesnt mean that a profit isn't possible. Maybe a low RV too. But make no mistake, a RD IS A POSSIBILITY. Those who cant deal with that maybe are the ones who dont belong on this site. Plenty of sites out there that would welcome you with open arms. At those sites the only possibility is a RV to some rediculous number. Why even have an opinion forum where everyone has the same opinion? Sounds boring to me. Bottom line, we put up with the constant nonsense from the Go RVers so the Go RVers should be able to respect others opinions whether they like them or not. No one wants a RD but that doesn't mean it's not their plan or that it will not occur. Deal with it.

That is why I like this guy. No nonsense. Who cares if he likes a certain currency dealer? He is a good guy. That meeting that happened a while back was just a meeting. Some people will let their minds go all over the place. It is pretty funny. Keep in mind that these guys need to make a living just like us. JMHO! Having said that, the ones that claim it is happening every day, need to go away. Just like B stated in his audio. There are crazy people in this investment. NO DOUBT!

ive honestly stopped following Roger for many months now it just seemd he doesnt care anymore about the dinar and keeping up with it.

GOI is sitting pretty now so thats super news for us. Adam never said RV this week, just big news and he was right. Baby steps grasshopper...baby steps.

Completing the formation of their government is "Big News" in my opinion. It only took a year to do it... So I think we chalk one up on the board for Montana. Take care.