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BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, DEC 12, 2020 - 11:00

Texas Republican Party Chairman Allen West is fuming after the Supreme Court denied the state's bid to challenge Joe Biden's wins in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Washington and Michigan - and has suggested what sounds a lot like seccession.

 

In a Friday night statement, West - a former Congressman and Iraq war veteran - said: "The Supreme Court, in tossing the Texas lawsuit that was joined by seventeen states and 106 US congressmen, have decreed that a state can take unconstitutional actions and violate its own election law. Resulting in damaging effects on other states that abide by the law, while the guilty state suffers no consequences. This decision establishes a precedent that says states can violate the US constitution and not be held accountable."

West then added: "This decision will have far reaching ramifications for the future of our constitutional republic. Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution."

In a further statement, West repeated his suggestion - writing "If we are living in Texas, and we were joined with, you know, some 20-some-odd other states, the 1065 different members of Congress that say, 'we do not want to stand by and allow four states to have unconstitutional practices,' and when we see states such as ourselves following the law, but yet the Supreme Court says that's perfectly fine, then maybe we should have a union of states that believe in the Constitution  and will abide by that rule of law, and let these other states go out on their own separate way and let them, not be supported by these other states such as ourselves."

 

 

 

More from @AllenWest tonight -- this time less 'we're outta here' and more 'actually, they're the ones who should secede.' "...let these other states go out their own separate way and let them not be supported by these other states such as ourselves."
 
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Friday's decision marked the second time Republicans were denied this week by the Supreme Court, and has largely been considered the 'end of the road' for overturning the results of the election.
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16 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

 

 

BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, DEC 12, 2020 - 11:00

Texas Republican Party Chairman Allen West is fuming after the Supreme Court denied the state's bid to challenge Joe Biden's wins in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Washington and Michigan - and has suggested what sounds a lot like seccession.

 

In a Friday night statement, West - a former Congressman and Iraq war veteran - said: "The Supreme Court, in tossing the Texas lawsuit that was joined by seventeen states and 106 US congressmen, have decreed that a state can take unconstitutional actions and violate its own election law. Resulting in damaging effects on other states that abide by the law, while the guilty state suffers no consequences. This decision establishes a precedent that says states can violate the US constitution and not be held accountable."

West then added: "This decision will have far reaching ramifications for the future of our constitutional republic. Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution."

 

In a further statement, West repeated his suggestion - writing "If we are living in Texas, and we were joined with, you know, some 20-some-odd other states, the 1065 different members of Congress that say, 'we do not want to stand by and allow four states to have unconstitutional practices,' and when we see states such as ourselves following the law, but yet the Supreme Court says that's perfectly fine, then maybe we should have a union of states that believe in the Constitution  and will abide by that rule of law, and let these other states go out on their own separate way and let them, not be supported by these other states such as ourselves."

 

 

 

More from @AllenWest tonight -- this time less 'we're outta here' and more 'actually, they're the ones who should secede.' "...let these other states go out their own separate way and let them not be supported by these other states such as ourselves."
 
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Friday's decision marked the second time Republicans were denied this week by the Supreme Court, and has largely been considered the 'end of the road' for overturning the results of the election.

If this were to happen I wonder how many republicans would move as fast as they can to Texas 

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5 hours ago, Sage449 said:

This morning's news was about Californians continuing to funnel out of the state - guess where moving to - Texas, yup Texas 1st choice. And Arizona and Nevada. But Tx grew the largest - so will Texas be californicated?

No because most people leaving this crappy state of Cali are Republicans so if anything it would make Texas and the conservative culture even stronger in my opinion! 

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2 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

People have to understand. There are a lot of patriotic Californians leaving a failed state. Not everyone going to Texas is a liberal.

And we will welcome those patriots leaving that socialist state. Once all of the good people are out, then the Pacific can have it. 
 

The first 15-20 minutes of the movie 2012 is one of my favorites. I get to watch kalifornia sink! :lmao:

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12 hours ago, Sage449 said:

This morning's news was about Californians continuing to funnel out of the state - guess where moving to - Texas, yup Texas 1st choice. And Arizona and Nevada. But Tx grew the largest - so will Texas be californicated?

 

You have a very valid concern....over 5 million have left Cali.....mostly headed to AZ...NV & TX....and, the Blue voting numbers have been on the

increase in those states.....

 

The reality is you can't fix stupid.... many are leaving because of the politics....cost of living and taxes......and bringing those same ideals to their new home state......box of rocks stupid IMO...     CL

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3 hours ago, caddieman said:

Good wine though!🍷

Yeppers, liberals do wine better than a new born baby 😪😪😪😪😪😪

 

 

4 hours ago, yota691 said:

I had saying back in the day. One good thing about Calif, one bad thing about Calif. The good thing it sinking, the bad thing  ____ floats

Oh no you didn't :lmao:

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6 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Mr West did all he could do to take back his comments as a secession idea this morning....he knows what the law says about such actions.  He merely wants a sewing circle of like minded states to come together in a union to share their gripes, aches and pains.  Or so it seems.

 

GO RV, then BV 

You miss the point. 

He could easily walk back his comments without damage to the original idea. Once that cat is out of the bag good luck putting it back in. 

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Remember the talk from California as recent as September? I do. This talk isn't unconventional, as was pointed out in another article, for states to be discussing this as Texas is. Here is a reminder:

 

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One of the most well-known groups pushing for California to secede from the rest of the country got the OK from state officials last week to collect signatures for a secession question on a future ballot.

The news of the approval came on the heels of California's 170th “birthday,” or anniversary marking the day it became the 31st state in the union. If the signature collection by pro-independence group Yes California is successful, residents would, in an undetermined future election, decide whether to cast a “no confidence” vote in the United States and create a commission to evaluate the Golden State’s ability to govern itself.

Yes California is one of several small, but vocal, organizations pushing for state independence. Its leaders are now working to secure 623,212 registered voter signatures in the next 180 days to qualify for the ballot, according to Alex Padilla, California’s secretary of state.

It’s not the first time the group has collected signatures to push California to break up with the rest of the United States, taking its wealthy tech titans and 40 million residents with it.

The effort has become an evergreen conversation that seems to have only ramped up in recent years. A few of California’s rich and powerful, including venture capitalist Shervin Pishevar, have put their weight behind the idea, particularly after President Donald Trump’s 2016 election win.

“We can re-enter the union after California becomes a nation,” Pishevar told CNBC in 2016 as a direct response to Trump's election. “As the sixth largest economy in the world, the economic engine of the nation and provider of a large percentage of the federal budget, California carries a lot of weight.”

But little, if anything, has come of those efforts to date.

Most experts and pundits seem to agree it’s unlikely that secession is in California’s future, but others argue that if any state is going to do it, California could be a good bet, particularly as political divisions widen.

In fact, the debate on whether the state should stay or go has been around long enough that there’s no shortage of published thought experiments on the topic. The History Channel last week even reminded everyone of the 25 days in 1846 that California was, indeed, its own nation.

If Yes California is successful in its effort to put a no confidence vote on the ballot and it passes, the state would need to come up with about $1 million to form the commission to analyze California’s ability to govern itself, according to an analysis by the state’s legislative analyst and director of finance.

But that’s a bridge California will cross when—or if—it gets there.

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19 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

You miss the point. 

He could easily walk back his comments without damage to the original idea. Once that cat is out of the bag good luck putting it back in. 

 

The way you describe it....it sounds like Mr. West was counting on convincing impressionable minds to do something illegal without him actually giving the directive, thus saving him from prosecution.

 

GO RV, then BV

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9 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

The way you describe it....it sounds like Mr. West was counting on convincing impressionable minds to do something illegal without him actually giving the directive, thus saving him from prosecution.

 

GO RV, then BV

What’s that new catch phrase ?? 
oh yeah , plausible deniability 

 

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