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  1. Define real proof of "something happening". Something is always happening in Iraq every single day that is not considered a holiday. It may not be to your liking or other people's liking but things are happening.
  2. They have something like that here in the United States its called the Social Security fund. United States Congress has been stealing from Social Security for a very, very, very, long time, for example Clinton's surplus that vanished when it was found out that the surplus came from the Social Security fund. Matter of fact, that news was breaking in late August as it was just beginning to make the rounds. Then something happened on September 11, 2001 that killed the story. So people think it was all Bush that killed the Surplus. This is not a sharing fund like what is described in the Iraqi Constitution. This is nothing more than a rainy day fund.
  3. Are you another name for a Birkenstock? Because you flip flop more than they do.
  4. Wax on, Wax off. Like I said the Saudi connection was already established. Bin Laden is from the House of Saud. He is blood to the royal family in the KSA.
  5. Wait I thought you said it was all CIA and now you are saying Saudi links? Earth to McFLy! Earth to McFly! That was already established long time ago.
  6. Your comment shows you exactly how uneducated you really are these matters. Your lack of knowledge goes beyond being ignorant in the matter. You see the world through the West and when you stop seeing the world through Western eyes, just maybe, you will understand the actual real threats that we face. You attribute 90% of all terrorist activities on the CIA and you claim they can't do that before the organization existed, yet terrorist acts were being committed. This shows the breadth of your knowledge of why terrorism exists and goes on today. Most of what is going on today dates much further back than before the CIA existed. And that is what you don't get. You only attribute it to the CIA because the CIA walked into the middle of it and that is all you see. The wars in the ME go back even before the United States was a glimmer in the eye of the Founding Fathers. It goes back further than the Ottoman Empire and the Crusades. When you have the tribes fight over who is what and who is truly whom, you create multi generational feuds that are never ending blood sheds. Especially when one group says the other group does not belong to the whole. The reason the Whabbis went around killing other muslims for committing shirk. This has a lot to do with the House of War and House of Peace and no land is truly the Hosue of Peace according to muslims. This has to to do with the Temple Mount and other things. But hey you keep thinking its all the CIA's fault. I don't subscribe to the theory that the US government did 9-11. I do understand we trained Bin Laden. The first time the WTC was bombed in the 90's the perpetrator was caught. There was an FBI agent in the helicopter escorting the captured terrorist to the place where he was being incarcerated. The terrorist remarked to the FBI agent that the first attempt failed but it wouldn't be the last attempt. Bin Laden was the number one terrorist long before 9-11. Oh Billy Boy dropped the ball on that one or the missile on the aspirin factory - oops! Yes, Bin Laden was on the terrorist watch list since before the OKC bombing in 1996. Have you ever read the fatwah that Bin Laden issued in the late 90s? Or did you not know that? Notice I called him a Sheik, because he was. He had strong animosity toward the West and when Afghanistan was fighting Russia, the CIA was over there training to fight Russians. When the USA sold Afghans surface to air weapons is when Russia lost. I guess you can talk to Daniel Pearl about 9-11 and Osama Bin Laden. Oh wait, his head was separated from his body by Al Qaeda. Guess you can't. When you get informed about what really went on then come see me, I will accept your heartfelt apology for being wrong. BTW I studied this and the ME for years. I spoke to the enemy without a gun to their head. I know what they are truly like for I have seen their true nature. Nothing in this world can convince me otherwise. You are talking about a peoples who still have issues and grudges for the Crusades. Think 20 years will mean anything to them? We will see something soon? They keep saying that nothing ever comes out of it, in regards to 9-11.
  7. Another ME Iman, this time in Washington D.C. who is trying to pin to the wall the narrative the Americans are the ones who did the bombing in Kabul. Washington D.C. Imam Abdul Alim Musa: The Zionists Run America, They Bombed Kabul Airport To Influence Biden's Iran Policy – Just Like They Orchestrated 9/11 #9067 | 07:15 Source: The Internet - "on As-Sabiqun DC on YouTube " Imam Abdul Alim Musa, Director of Masjid Al-Islam in Washington D.C. said that "the Zionists" carried out the August 2021 Kabul airport bombings, killing American troops, in order to influence President Biden's policy on Iran. He made his remarks in a Friday sermon that aired on As-Sabiqun DC on YouTube on August 27, 2021. He said that the Israeli delegation was supposed to meet with President Biden, whom he referred to as "whatever his name is," but was delayed because of the bombing in order to gauge Biden's stance on Iran. Musa also said that Islam's main enemy is the Zionists, and that the U.S. serves the Zionists. He said that this is similar to the 9/11 attacks, which he claimed were also carried out by the Zionists. Musa went on to say that the Zionists are telling President Biden what to do, but that Biden has the opportunity to save America from Zionism. He said that the Zionists control Congress, the Senate, and the U.S. economy, and that they "run America." For more about Imam Abdul Alim Musa, see MEMRI TV clips nos. 5869, 5762,and 2326. Abdul Alim Musa: "After a short period of being a Muslim, we had realized who our main enemy was, and we knew from jump street that our main enemy were Zionists. The main enemy of Islam were Zionists. So therefore, we not only had to go up against the Americans, who were servants of Zionism. [...] "The Zionists have been here since day before yesterday. They were supposed to meet, right? They were supposed to meet yesterday with the President, with old Biden. But they had the explosion of those people over there, and it was so traumatic that they had to put it all until today. [...] "America has been taken over by the Zionists, and yesterday, when they [were] getting ready to meet, right? With old... whatever his name is... this man [is] getting old already... 78 years old, good God... he ain't got too much older to get before he leave... "Then, they have the bombing. They want to go in and talk to him at that time, what do they want to say to him? 'Look, we don't want to, we told you we don't want you to do anything with Iran.' Just because you tell the world you're going to do this with Iran, do that with Iran... and we don't want you to do it. To show you how we feel about it, we gonna blow up a whole crew of your soldiers in front of everybody, and in front of the public. You can't do nothing about it. Why, they couldn't do nothing about 9/11 right? Don't they have history of people standing on buildings, cheering while 9/11 goes off? Who are those people? They are Zionists. [...] "And the Russians went running home, they went running home, they didn't look back. And then, the World Trade Center goes up in smoke. They blamed it on people there. They wish they hadn't done that. They wish they hadn't done that, because they have been stuck over there for 20 years. [...] "They are meeting down there today, and the Zionists are telling Biden, or whatever his name is, what to do. And he is trying to say 'Well...' By this evening or tomorrow, you will know whether he stood his ground. He has the opportunity to rescue America from Zionists. Do you know [that] the whole apparatus understands what is going on? "When the FBI comes by here, and they make a couple of hints of certain things, and then they're going back to their business, they said clearly, right by the door, 'you don't have to worry about us anymore, there's something else, and they're hinting at it... I say... I don't have to worry about y'all no more. "Every time I come from overseas, I sit a whole 4-5 hours. Before getting on the plane, I stand there for 2-3 hours, I got to get there really early, because I got to stand there, just wait, go to the... When I got there, coming from Oakland the other time, I went to the airport, showed them my ID, they said 'okay, go,' I was looking all around and I went through the place, and it just said 'stand there... go ahead'. I started to go back... wait just a minute now, what is going on here? I just walked right on through. That's what the FBI did. The FBI was here to tell me, but I am not letting them go away with it. We're under new dispensations, right now. "The Zionists are telling us what to do, the Zionists put the big tall guy... you know, what's his name... head of the FBI. They do what they want. Donald Trump's best friend is a Zionist, they are friends... [but] they are not his friends, right? Don't they manipulate, and they control him? 100%. What was Trump's job? We said it here, years before it happened. "First, we said his job is to destroy the Republican Party. Remember that? Then, we said Donald's job is to destroy America, to make it super weak. If America is super weak ideologically, and the Zionists are strong, that little old group of people can control him. Why? You see it everyday, why. What is it, Pegasus [spyware] this and that... They got something on the whole Congress, and there ain't no white man that lived a moral life in the United States. I mean, there's probably one or so... But them, right? Tell the truth! So, the Zionist got them all by their body parts, they got them all! They have to cooperate, let me try to explain that again. The Zionists control Congress, the Zionists control Senate, the Zionists control economy, the Zionists run America."
  8. All over the Middle East there are numerous individuals saying this: (As long as Biden remains in office) Turkey-Based Egyptian Political Analyst Islam Al-Ghamri: U.S. Withdrawal From Afghanistan Signals The Decline Of The "American Era," And Possibly Its Disintegration, Like The USSR #9055 | 01:31 Source: Channel 9/Qanat TV (Turkey) Egyptian political analyst Islam Al-Ghamri said that U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan is the "bugle call" signaling the end of the era of American influence. He made his remarks in an interview that aired on the Muslim Brotherhood affiliated Arabic language Turkish Channel 9 on August 20, 2021. Al-Ghamri said that it might take years or even decades, but the United States will not be the same after its withdrawal. He added that it might even disintegrate, like the USSR. Islam Al-Ghamri is a former senior official member at the Egyptian Islamist Building and Development Party. Islam Al-Ghamri: "America is in a period of decline and waning. I believe that American expansion and the American Era have come to an end, and a new era has arrived. This era is introduced by this horror film. What is happening now is a starting point, a bugle call signaling that a new era is taking shape, and that the U.S. will never be the same after its withdrawal from Afghanistan. This is a historic and pivotal point in time. "How long will the period of American decline takes? Years? Decades? It might take even more time, or maybe less, but the period of downfall, waning, and collapse has begun. Maybe we will witness the disintegration of the U.S. in the future. Maybe the U.S. will disintegrate, just like the Soviet Union did. This is a huge earthquake. When there is an earthquake, the land fractures, and collapses that were unimaginable in the past – suddenly happen. What happened is a huge earthquake that will strike Europe, the U.S., and the entire Western civilization."
  9. This Iman lives in Colorado. Yes the United States, Notice Women have rights tot he Hijab but this Iman denies it. Why? Because of where he is living now. But what does he have to say about Afghanistan? Colorado Imam Karim AbuZaid: Macron Denies Muslim Women's Right To Hijab – But The Taliban "Have The Right To Tell The [Afghan] People What To Wear" #9057 | 01:47 Source: The Internet - "Imam AbuZaid on YouTube" Colorado Imam Karim AbuZaid asked why it is acceptable for French President Macron to deny Muslim women in France the right to wear the hijab, while the Taliban is not allowed to force Afghan women to wear one. He made his remarks in a video streamed live on his YouTube channel on August 21, 2021. AbuZaid said that every Muslim should want to establish the shari'a by lawful means and that the Taliban are the conquering rulers of Afghanistan. The hijab is an element of the shari’a, he said. In October 2020, AbuZaid spoke about Macron's statement that Islam was "in danger" in a Friday sermon that was delivered at the Colorado Muslim Community Center in Aurora, Colorado. For more information, see MEMRI TV clip no 8368. Imam Karim AbuZaid: "Why is there so much hypocrisy in the world now? Why not accept the Taliban as conquering rulers? You know, why don’t you raise any flags when France’s [President] Macron decided to force Muslim women out of hijab? [...] "The hijab is an element of Islam, of the shari'a. Now, you should love for the law of Allah to be established, through the legal lawful channels, without violating the laws of the land. Now, the Taliban happen to be the ruling authority in Afghanistan. Don’t they have the right to at least, show their women the Islamic dress code, like France – Macron is the ruling force in France – they are giving the right to tell the people what to wear and what not to wear."
  10. You don't think the allies of Iran are emboldened? Here is a television interview (translated) where the guest is praising Sadam Hussein. Tell me they don't have animosity for the West. Iraqi Intellectual Hassan Al-'Alawi: Saddam Hussein Was An Honest, Decent, Patriotic Dictator Who Loved The Poor; He Was Hanged, But The Traitors Who Rule Iraq Are the Ones Who Deserve To Be Hanged #9065 | 02:08 Source: Altaghier TV (Iraq) Iraqi intellectual Hassan Al-'Alawi said that Saddam Hussein was an honest, decent, patriotic leader, who was kind to the poor but also a dictator. He made these remarks in an interview that aired on Altaghier TV (Iraq) on August 6, 2021. Al-'Alawi said that Arab countries prospered under dictatorship and democracy only got them into trouble. He added that if Saddam was executed, the "traitors" who "stole Iraq and are still doing so" should also be executed. For more information about Al-'Alawi, see MEMRI TV clips nos. 8321 and 5957. Interviewer: "When you entered Iraq, when you returned to Iraq, and found Iraq without Saddam Hussein, how did you feel?" Hassan Al-'Alawi: "I wished that Saddam would still be there, because Saddam gave a lot to the Iraqi people, despite his cruelty." Interviewer: "But you did not find him there? How did you feel about that?" Al-'Alawi: "What?" Interviewer: "You returned to Iraq and did not find Saddam. He wasn't there. How did you feel when you entered Iraq and found a new Iraq, different from the Iraq you knew when you left." Al-'Alawi: "Saddam Hussein was executed? The traitors who stole Iraq and are still doing so should be executed. Saddam Hussein was executed? Saddam was honest, pan-Arabist, patriotic, a loyal son of the [Arab] nation. Saddam Hussein loved the poor people. Saddam Hussein could not see a [poor] woman on the side of the road without getting out of his car, putting his hands on her head, and kissing it. [...] "Is it bravery to wait for your political rival to die in order to curse him? Saddam was hanged? The traitors should be hanged! The traitors who rule Iraq should be hanged! Saddam was not a traitor. Saddam was a patriot and one of the architects of the pan-Arab enterprise in Iraq. Saddam was decent, he loved the poor, but he was a dictator. But who was not a dictator? Wasn't the Caliph a dictator? Could someone say no to the Caliph? Was there ever a deputy to the Caliph? Our Arab regimes were all dictatorships. We prospered only thanks to these dictatorships, and got into trouble only because of democracy."
  11. CIA responsible for all of this, in the last week of August alone? I can come with hundreds of instances not even taking place in Afghanistan, - On August 27, 2021, the Islamic State West Africa Province (ISWAP) claimed responsibility for an August 25 attack on Nigerian military barracks. - On August 31, 2021, the Islamic State West Africa Province (ISWAP) released a photo report showing ISWAP operatives in Nigeria distributing "da'wah [preaching] leaflets to the common Muslims explaining the severity of cooperating with the apostates or joining them." = On August 25, 2021, the Islamic State West Africa Province (ISWAP) released a photoset depicting "an aspect of the agricultural activity of the subjects of the Islamic State in Nigeria." - On August 30, 2021, a pro-Islamic State (ISIS) English-language Telegram channel posted a message in the name of a U.S.-based ISIS supporter who expressed his surprise at the reaction of what he called "the enemies of Allah," including Russia, China, and the United States, at the Taliban's takeover of Afghanistan and their failure to immediately form a coalition to remove the Afghan group. - Following the statement released by the Islamic State (ISIS) in which it claimed responsibility for the Kabul attack, ISIS supporters and pro-ISIS media outlets published dozens of posts glorifying the attacker, rejoicing that he managed to kill U.S. forces, and urging fellow supporters to disseminate the ISIS's statement across social media platforms, including Facebook and YouTube. - Following the August 26, 2021 suicide bombing at the Kabul international airport – which killed 13 U.S. servicemen and more than 100 Afghans and wounded hundreds more, including 18 U.S. military personnel and several members of the Afghan Taliban – the Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISKP) claimed the attack, reporting the number of victims as "more than 160," including "more than 20 members of the American forces." - On August 30, 2021, pro-Islamic State (ISIS) media outlets continued to celebrate the group's August 26 suicide attack on Kabul Airport, which killed 13 U.S. servicemen. - On August 30, 2021, a pro-Islamic State (ISIS) Telegram channel commented on a CNN interview conducted with an alleged senior commander of the group's branch Khorasan, known as ISIS-K. - On August 31, 2021, pro-Islamic State (ISIS) media outlets released content celebrating the August 26 suicide bombing and August 30 rocket attack targeting Kabul airport, for which ISIS claimed responsibility. - Following media reports that at least two explosions took place near Kabul's Hamid Karzai International Airport amid the chaotic evacuation by the United States and other Western countries of their citizens and Afghans at risk from the Taliban, a pro-Islamic State (ISIS) Telegram channel celebrated the attacks, which reportedly killed U.S. soldiers and citizens. It also mocked the Taliban's pledge not to allow Afghanistan to be used as a base for attacks against the West. - On August 11, 2021, pro-Islamic State (ISIS) media groups launched what appears to be a coordinated media campaign against Rwanda. - English-speaking Islamic State (ISIS) supporters and Taliban supporters have been discussing their points of view on the ISIS-K (ISIS in Khorasan, i.e., Afghanistan) attack on the Kabul airport that targeted U.S. servicemen and Afghans. ISIS supporters celebrated the killing, while Taliban supporters criticized ISIS-K for killing Muslims. Some Taliban supporters also asserted that ISIS was working with Ashraf Ghani's regime. - Pro-Taliban Western jihadi Twitter user praises the group's takeover of Afghanistan and defends their actions. - In an Urdu-language statement issued by its media wing, Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS) congratulated the Afghan Taliban leaders on their victory in Afghanistan. - On August 27, 2021, the media office of the Al-Qaeda affiliate in Somalia, Harakat Al-Shabab Al-Mujahideen (aka Al-Shabab or HSM), released, via the Al-Qaeda media outlet an English communique about an August 24, 2021 raid in Somalia. - Following the suicide attack claimed by the Islamic State (ISIS) on August 26, 2021, Al-Qaeda supporters cautiously cheered for the attack that killed American soldiers and citizens, while casting doubt on the ISIS narrative that the attack was carried out with an explosive belt. - On August 28, 2021, a pro-Al-Qaeda media group released a poster on Telegram to mark the upcoming 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. - On August 27, 2021, a pro-Al-Qaeda outlet published a report praising recent "bloody attacks" by the mujahideen of Al-Qaeda affiliates in three African countries, Mali, Somalia, and Kenya. - Issue 21 of a pro-Al-Qaeda women's magazine focuses on the Afghan Taliban's takeover of Afghanistan, which the editorial describes as a "great defeat of the West." - On August 31, 2021, the Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham (HTS)-linked General Security Service released photos of 4 alleged members of an Islamic State (ISIS) cell who were apprehended in Idlib. - On August 31, 2021, a Syria-based Egyptian jihadi preacher published a lengthy post on Telegram in which he paid a tribute to Egyptians who migrated to Syria to join the ranks of jihad. - On September 1, 2021, the Uyghur jihadi group the Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP) reported on its website that its operatives carried out artillery attacks on Syrian regime bases. = On August 31, 2021, an Iranian-supported Shi'ite group in Iraq claimed responsibility for two attacks against American convoys in Iraq. Right now the world is abuzz with Afghanistan but look in that list above and you will see some disturbing things like Women's Rights, and other locations.
  12. So tell me where was the CIA when we were fighting the Barbary Pirates? Don't think the CIA existed back then and definitely don't think they, the CIA, was responsible for terrorism before the organization existed. Your 90% root cause theory is not without its merits but when it comes to the ME, its totally poppycock bullcrap. Where was the CIA when the Wahabis went around the Arabian Pennisula during the time of the Ottoman Empire and before World War I, terrorizing other muslims saying they committed Shirk (worse than apostacy) and had the mantra of "pushing the Jews into the Sea"? Where was the CIA when The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem met with Adolf Hitler to convince him to get rid of the Jews by genocide? 90% root cause theory - poppycock, bullcrap. They don't need the CIA to instill terrorism as it is written in their books. If you don't believe me all you have to do is start with the verseof Jihad: 2:216 where fighting is prescribed by their Allah, whether they like it or not. And their scholar Yusuf Ali concurs and explain this. Or you can point to their book because Sheik Osama Bin Laden used verse 9:5 to bring down the World Trade Center. Bin Laden only used the CIA to be trained, the ideology was already there - hatred for all things in the House of War. And in your infinite wisdom, you should know the United States is part of the House of War because the kafirs, mushriken and non-believers live on the land. Ask Egypt who destroyed, lit on fire, the Great Library of Alexandria. Ask the Coptics, Christians, how that "90% of terrorism was the responsibility of the CIA"? Ask the orphans in Egypt who have had their orphanages razed to the ground by bull dozers who is responsible for that? Ask the Coptic women in Egypt who have had acid thrown in their face if the CIA was responsible? Ask the Coptic priests if the CIA is responsible for not being able to repair their churches. Ask the Coptic women who have had their daughters kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam whether or not the CIA is responsible. 90% responsible, bull crap! They, the CIA, aren't even responsible for 10%. No Islam has that one all to themselves. And if you say Islam was hijacked, you are a good sheeple and have completed your brain washing sessions. The word Islamaphobia didn't exist until well after 9-11 as they were trying to find a word like "racism" since the OKC bombing. the reason "racism" didn't work was because Islam is not a race, just like Christianity is not a race. Next time try with someone who knows a little less. I have spoken with these cretins and I have been the proverbial fly on the wall when they were behind closed doors. Something most never get to witness. I will never forget that discussion to this day. CIA my derrière!
  13. If you think this will result in peace, you are sadly mistaken given the history of the Middle East. If the USA leaves Iraq at the behest of Iranian backed militia leader, this not only emboldens Iran to further its nefarious and terrorist activities but they will soon be landing on our shores telling us to leave the US, convert or die. And if you think I am exaggerating here, remember CAIR's co-founder once stated that they weren't here to be just another religion, they were here to make the Quran the Constitution and make the US a muslim nation. Until that happens, like it or not, Islam is at war with any land they deem that is not the House of Peace. FYI, in ISlam this has a very significant meaning in which no non-believer resides in the land, the land is purely Islamic and sharia is the highest law in the land. Unicorn's will fart rainbows before there will be a modicum of peace while the Taliban rule Afghanistan and Iran is emboldened to carry on (especially for Israel). Only a western mindset would think this all leads to peace, while they strategize and plot the west's downfall. And believe me, they are salivating at the gums right now that Biden and not Trump is POTUS. Many have already predicted we will be going back to Afghanistan and the UK has already pondered bombing them.
  14. FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE AUG. 20, 2021 The Science of Masking Kids at School Remains Uncertain By David Zweig Photo: Allen J. Schaben/Los Angeles Times via Getty Imag At the end of May, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published a notable, yet mostly ignored, large-scale study of COVID transmission in American schools. A few major news outlets covered its release by briefly reiterating the study’s summary: that masking then-unvaccinated teachers and improving ventilation with more fresh air were associated with a lower incidence of the virus in schools. Those are common-sense measures, and the fact that they seem to work is reassuring but not surprising. Other findings of equal importance in the study, however, were absent from the summary and not widely reported. These findings cast doubt on the impact of many of the most common mitigation measures in American schools. Distancing, hybrid models, classroom barriers, HEPA filters, and, most notably, requiring student masking were each found to not have a statistically significant benefit. In other words, these measures could not be said to be effective. In the realm of science and public-health policy outside the U.S., the implications of these particular findings are not exactly controversial. Many of America’s peer nations around the world — including the U.K., Ireland, all of Scandinavia, France, the Netherlands, Switzerland, and Italy — have exempted kids, with varying age cutoffs, from wearing masks in classrooms. Conspicuously, there’s no evidence of more outbreaks in schools in those countries relative to schools in the U.S., where the solid majority of kids wore masks for an entire academic year and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. These countries, along with the World Health Organization, whose child-masking guidance differs substantially from the CDC’s recommendations, have explicitly recognized that the decision to mask students carries with it potential academic and social harms for children and may lack a clear benefit. To date, the highly transmissible Delta variant has not led them to change this calculus. (Many experts I spoke with told me that while the Delta variant represents a major and concerning new development in the Covid pandemic, it probably shouldn’t change our thinking on a mask requirement for schools.) Here in the United States, the message looks different. On July 9, a little more than a month after the study was published, the CDC released updated guidance for schools, including the recommendation that masks should be worn indoors by all individuals (age 2 and older) who are not fully vaccinated. Ten days later, the American Academy of Pediatrics took the guidance a step further and said that everyone in school over age 2 should wear masks, regardless of vaccination status. (The CDC later matched the AAP’s guidance.) The extreme political heat around the issue of masks in schools is making it hard to have a coherent conversation about the science. At the risk of generalizing, much of blue-state America is strongly in favor of masks in schools, while much of red-state America is opposed. In Florida, Tennessee, and elsewhere, local school-board meetings are verging on violence as parents and officials fight over the question. But with tens of millions of American kids headed back to school in the fall, their parents and political leaders owe it to them to have a clear-sighted, scientifically rigorous discussion about which anti-COVID measures actually work and which might put an extra burden on vulnerable young people without meaningfully or demonstrably slowing the spread of the virus. In that context, the best practices for mask use in schools — elementary schools in particular — are much less obvious than CDC guidance and news headlines about keeping schools safe might have you believe. The study published by the CDC was both ambitious and groundbreaking. It covered more than 90,000 elementary-school students in 169 Georgia schools from November 16 to December 11 and was, according to the CDC, the first of its kind to compare COVID-19 incidence in schools with certain mitigation measures in place to other schools without those measures. Scientists I spoke with believe that the decision not to include the null effects of a student masking requirement (and distancing, hybrid models, etc.) in the summary amounted to “file drawering” these findings, a term researchers use for the practice of burying studies that don’t produce statistically significant results. “That a masking requirement of students failed to show independent benefit is a finding of consequence and great interest,” says Vinay Prasad, an associate professor in University of California, San Francisco’s Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics. “It should have been included in the summary.” “The summary gives the impression that only masking of staff was studied,” says Tracy Hoeg, an epidemiologist and the senior author of a separate CDC study on COVID-19 transmission in schools, “when in reality there was this additional important detection about a student-masking requirement not having a statistical impact.” After the CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics issued their student-mask guidance last month, I contacted both organizations asking for the evidence or underlying data upon which they had based their recommendations. The AAP did not respond to multiple requests. The CDC press office replied that since children under 12 cannot be vaccinated, the agency “recommends schools do universal masking” and included links to unrelated materials on vaccines and a recent outbreak among adults. Over the course of several weeks, I also corresponded with many experts — epidemiologists, infectious-disease specialists, an immunologist, pediatricians, and a physician publicly active in matters relating to COVID — asking for the best evidence they were aware of that mask requirements on students were effective. Nobody was able to find a data set as robust as the Georgia results — that is, a large cohort study directly looking at the effects of a mask requirement. (The closest is a study published in Science, based on a Facebook survey, that was suggestive but not conclusive of a marginal benefit of student masking.One doctor, who is on TV regularly and has around 100,000 Twitter followers, sent me two studies where masks were required of all students so there was no way to determine the effect; the authors of one of the studies explicitly noted, “we were not able to examine the impact of universal masking owing to nearly 100 percent adoption of this intervention,” and authors of the other study wrote, “it was not possible to determine the specific roles that mask-wearing played in the low rate of disease spread.” ) “A year ago, I said, ‘Masks are not the end of the world; why not just wear a mask?’” Elissa Schechter-Perkins, the director of Emergency Medicine Infectious Disease Management at Boston Medical Center, told me. “But the world has changed, there are real downsides to masking children for this long, with no known end date, and without any clear upside.” She continued, “I’m not aware of any studies that show conclusively that kids wearing masks in schools has any effect on their own morbidity or mortality or on the hospitalization or death rate in the community around them.” Schechter-Perkins is just one of a number of top experts calling for this type of discussion — and raising questions about the CDC’s recent recommendations and what has become accepted conventional knowledge. “We lack credible evidence for benefits of masking kids aged 2 to 5, despite what the American Academy of Pediatrics says,” Jeffrey Flier, former dean of Harvard Medical School, wrote recently. While there are models, and simulations on mannequins with masks, “mechanistic studies are incapable of anticipating and tallying the effects that emerge when real people are asked to do real things in the real world,” Vinay Prasad of UCSF wrote in a critique of the CDC’s child masking recommendation. “The CDC cannot ‘follow the science’ because there is no relevant science.” This question of “relevant science” is what makes the Georgia study worth careful consideration. Over and over, studies and reports on children in schools with low transmission rates claim in their summaries that masking students helped keep transmission down. But looking at the underlying data in these studies, masks were always required or widely worn, and implemented in concert with a variety of other interventions, such as increased ventilation. Without a comparison group that didn’t require student masking, it’s difficult or impossible to isolate the effect of masks. (This is the error made by Duke University researchers who wrote a report about North Carolina schools, later summarized in a New York Times opinion piece.) I reviewed 17 different studies cited by the CDC in its K-12 guidance as evidence that masks on students are effective, and not one study looked at student mask use in isolation from other mitigation measures, or against a control. Some even demonstrated that no student masking correlated with low transmission.In a number of the studies cited by the agency there was universal masking combined with other measures, such as ventilation, so, as noted, there was no way to know whether a mask mandate contributed to mitigating case rates or not. One study cited was of child-care centers with limited secondary transmission, yet children were not required to wear masks. Another was of a hair salon. One study, in Switzerland, was of schools with low transmission rates where young children were not required to wear masks. Finally, one study was of an Israeli school outbreak where the students weren’t wearing masks. Except students all over that country were exempt from masks at the same time, yet this was the only noted outbreak. If anything, that could seem to suggest a lack of benefit of masking students. Moreover, the windows were closed and it was only grades 7-12. Children are less likely to have severe disease from SARS-CoV-2, and when infected less likely to be symptomatic, which correlates with lower contagiousness. Those facts alone may account for part of the reason why the Georgia study found no clear benefit for a masking requirement for kids in schools. Though the CDC says that layered mitigation in schools is effective, without studying each of the layers individually, it cannot know which of those measures work, and to what degree, and which don’t. For example, several experts told me, it’s entirely possible that open windows or fresh-air ventilation accounts for nearly all the mitigation benefit in a classroom and other “layered” interventions may contribute only a marginal benefit or none at all. While masks offer some protection for adults in many environments, as the adage in pediatrics goes, children are not little adults. Medicine is littered with examples of adult interventions that don’t translate to children. For many years, kids were given certain migraine medications based on adult studies. It wasn’t until 2017, when a trial with a control group found that kids on this medication did no better than placebo, that the practice was stopped. A difference between the effectiveness of requiring masks on children in schools and adults in other environments would not be a surprising finding. This may, in part, explain why the CDC’s study did not find a statistically significant benefit in elementary-age kids but did see a benefit in unvaccinated teachers, said Prasad of UCSF. It’s also important to underline that just because the Georgia study did not find a statistically significant benefit doesn’t mean that a larger, more statistically powerful study might not find one, said Hoeg, the epidemiologist. But since this study had 90,000 students, then the question becomes: If you need 500,000 or 1 million people to find a benefit, how marginal is that benefit? Many people may surmise that even if there’s not conclusive evidence, it’s still likely that masking kids in schools helps. But not all masks are created equal. A list of public-health notables, including Michael Osterholm, an epidemiologist and former COVID-19 adviser to Joe Biden, and Scott Gottlieb, the former commissioner of the FDA, have publicly noted the limited effectiveness of cloth masks. Celine Gounder, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at NYU, who also advised Biden’s transition team on COVID-19 policy, recently tweeted a chart that showed when cloth masks are worn by both the source and receiver they provide just an estimated 27 minutes of protection from an infectious dose of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Higher-grade N95s, or KN95s, the Chinese equivalent, offer more protection, but are also much harder to tolerate over extended periods of time. Three physicians I talked with considered the idea of children wearing them all day at school — suggested recently by an aerosol scientist in the Times — “laughable,” “cruel,” and “unrealistic, because most adults can barely handle an N95 for even short durations,” since they are so uncomfortable. While the protective value of a mask mandate for children in school seems, at best, uncertain, experts have concerns about the potential downsides of them in a learning environment. “Mask-wearing among children is generally considered a low-risk mitigation strategy; however, the negatives are not zero, especially for young children,” said Lloyd Fisher, the president of the Massachusetts chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics. “It is important for children to see facial expressions of their peers and the adults around them in order to learn social cues and understand how to read emotions.” Some children with special needs, for example those with articulation delays, may be most affected, he suggested. Fisher stressed his opinions are not to be perceived as contradicting AAP’s stance for universal masking of students but said he wanted to discuss some of the potential harms and the importance of using evidence and data to drive decisions on when to eliminate mask usage. “There are very good reasons that the World Health Organization has repeatedly affirmed their guidance for children under 6 to not wear masks,” said a pediatrician who has both state and national leadership roles in the AAP but who wished to remain anonymous because they did not want to jeopardize their roles in the organization. “Reading faces is critical for social emotional learning. And all children are actively learning language the first five years of life, for which seeing faces is foundational,” the pediatrician said. One troubling aspect of the CDC and AAP’s guidance for masking children in school, nearly every expert I interviewed said, is that it has no endpoint or specific metrics. When asked when kids can remove masks in school, CDC director Rochelle Walensky said, “If our children are vaccinated, we have full vaccination in schools, we have full vaccination in teachers, we have disease rates that are low — I think then we can start thinking about how we can loosen up.” In practical terms, this seems to translate to the distant future. Likely a percentage of teachers will not get vaccinated. And estimates are that the vaccine for kids ages 5 to 11 may not be approved for emergency use until the winter or later. When an EUA does come, a significant percentage of parents won’t vaccinate their kids. By Walensky’s criteria, children may be in masks for years at school. Several doctors I spoke with pointed out that the best way to shield children from COVID-19 exposure is through adult vaccination. “Our most effective way of protecting everyone, students and school staff alike, is by vaccinating the adults around them,” said Westyn Branch-Elliman, an infectious-diseases specialist at Harvard Medical School. Ashish Jha, the dean of Brown University School of Public Health, posted a thread on Twitter explaining that the vaccination rate among children under 12 is the same across the country, which is zero, of course. Yet pediatric infection rates right now vary wildly, correlating with how many adults in their area are vaccinated. And evidence suggests that staff-to-staff transmission is more common than transmission from students to staff, staff to student, or student to student. COVID, of course, is also a disease that tends to have much milder effects on children. “We know that the risk to kids from COVID is vanishingly low. Yes, we’re seeing it, but it’s rare,” said Schecter-Perkins, the emergency-medicine infectious-diseases expert. Out of more than 600,000 American deaths attributed to COVID-19, 361 were for kids and adolescents under age 18. In the much-shorter 2018-2019 flu season, there were 477 pediatric deaths. “We didn’t have mask mandates then,” Schecter-Perkins noted. And “now we’re in a post-vaxx world where adults have had the opportunity to protect themselves, and vaccines prevent severe COVID.” While concerns about pediatric long COVID are real, evidence from studies that have a control group is reassuring. A large British study found “almost all children had symptom resolution by eight weeks,” and of the small number of children with longer-term symptoms, most were vague and common, such as fatigue and headaches, which were also found in the group of children who tested negative for COVID. A study in Germany, now in pre-print, of 1,560 adolescents, found “no statistical difference comparing the reported symptoms between seropositive students and seronegative students.” A common argument right now is that the emergence of the Delta variant changes everything. Currently, some regions of the U.S. are seeing a surge of infections and hospitalizations among young people. But the numbers coming out of Britain continue to suggest that Delta is not more virulent — that is, it does not cause more severe illness on an individual basis to unvaccinated people — despite being more contagious. A pediatric immunologist at a major university hospital who was not authorized to speak publicly said, “It is not biologically plausible that the same variant somehow is more dangerous for kids in the U.S. than it is in the U.K.” More broadly, Schecter-Perkins said, “I don’t think that Delta changes the calculus because it still seems clear that it doesn’t cause more severe disease, so it still doesn’t change the fundamental question of ‘What are we trying to achieve by masking kids when they are still extremely unlikely to suffer from severe illness or death if infected?’ And the adults in their lives have the opportunity to be vaccinated and also protected so we don’t need to worry about transmission.” The pediatric immunologist said, “Even with a new variant, the onus is on those who recommend masking kids to robustly demonstrate a meaningful benefit, especially when the pre-Delta study of the Georgia schools did not find one, and when there are obvious socio-emotional and educational harms from masking children for this unprecedented duration of time.” Several of the experts I spoke with said that given the lack of evidence of a substantial benefit from a student-masking requirement, it’s not at all clear this measure will be effective against a more transmissible variant. One of the costs of an intervention that lacks clear benefit, said the immunologist, is distraction from the tools that we know protect people — in the case of schools, vaccination and ventilation. NOTES: The COVID Virus has a contagion rate of R07 (R knot seven). This means that for every 1 person infected there is a possibility of 7 people that can be infected. The DELTA variant has an R013. Tuberculosis has an R015 and the mumps has an R018 infection rating. A 3mm gap in a mask reduces its effectiveness of preventing the COVID virus to 3%. Cloth masks with the designs on them have an effectiveness rating of only 7%. You have a 93% chance of being infected with this mask on. The blue masks you buy at the store has an effectiveness rating of 10%. You have a 90% chance of being infected. The N95 masks have an effectiveness rating of a whole whopping 42%. You have a 58% chance of being infected. Circulating the air in a room twice per hour has the same effective rate as the cloth masks. You have a 93% chance of being infected. This was a study done quite recently showing the data of how effective masks are during the pandemic. The study showed you were more likely to win on a scratch off ticket than to prevent being infected with the COVID or its variant (if it exists). Masks are ineffective they need to be removed from our kids at school and schools need to get back to educating (not indoctrinating) our children with reading writing and arithmetic. Masks are and have always been ineffective, stop pushing the mantra they are there to protect anyone. They are nothing more than a placebo effect to make you feel good or control your neighbor and you.
  15. Neanderthals, at the earliest, were 35,000 years ago. Are you sure we are dealing with 7th century and not 35K years ago culture?
  16. The worst kind of money to trade or invest with …. is your own. Think about it.
  17. Biden sees your 500K and throws in 2 million on Vietnam. HANOI, July 10 (Reuters) - Vietnam has received 2 million doses of the Moderna (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine donated by the U.S. government, the American embassy in Hanoi said on Saturday, as the Southeast Asian country battles its worst outbreak of the pandemic.
  18. If I were to ask you if Black were classified as a color. The answer would be yes. I didn't ask you to define the color black as we all know black is the absence of other colors. Yet it is classified as a color just like red, white (all of the colors) and blue. Atheism is the absence of God or the belief there is no magical sky fairy. It is a belief nonetheless. And it is always brought in religious discussions. Atheism is guilty of being a religion. Now any form of worship done by a group of people where their belief is the same can be considered an organized religion. Religion is just a group of people with the same beliefs. If I replace God with another entity like for say the Easter Bunny and people believed in the Easter Bunny as their creator and worshipped the Easter Bunny then that would be considered an organized religion. The Altar of Government is the proverbial pedestal a governmental leader stands upon. Some will call this a mandate. The leader can claim his mandate comes from a divinity or the Easter Bunny or even himself. If the people agree and believe in him (or her) then they begin to worship the Government if they lose their faith in their own personal Creator, who ever it may be, Gaia, Zeus, Thor, the nose hair of a camel that has magical mucus healing powers, etc. It can even go so far as replacing addiction with the belief in something else - which is how Alcoholics Anonymous started. Hi Iam Theseus, and I am NOT an Alcoholic. This later transferred over to overcome drugs but not as successfully. Communism as written by Marx said Religion is the opiate of the people. At the time Marx lived there were opiod dens that were exported from the Far East to put the quote into context. So Marx proposed to replace religion with Government. Just like AA. Instead of worshipping the magical sky fairy, you were to worship the all masterful leader put on a proverbial pedestal and he was given the mandate not by the people but by whatever the leader claimed. Communism existed before Marx and will exist long after we all have turned to dust. Communism is just another religion whether you want to call t that or not. Most people nowadays put their faith and hope into that magical sky fairy. With Communism it is the Government even though individuals may still believe in the magical sky fairy. Now I can hear your brain already clacking away and your llips pursing up as you read the words "magical sky fairy". I am using this to illustrate as the US Declaration of Independence states ".... your Creator...". In Atheism, there are people who believe that mommy and daddy are your creator and the Government is their savior. Your Creator in the Declaration of Independence was purposefully chosen to include even the Atheist because even if you do not believe in the magical sky fairy you believe something or someones (plural) created you. (I know you said you were not an Atheist). Communism devoid of the belief in God was not Communism's downfall and it never has been. The downfall comes from the replacement or substitution of one religion for another. Government, as bleak as it is, becomes the religion of the people. It oppresses people does not allow class movement upwards, except in rare cases, and turns neighbor against neighbor. Marx had it right, religion, even when that religion is the government, is the opiate of the people. There is no other God worshipping religion that has latched onto this concept better than Islam has done. Islam was around before the Father of Communism was born. And their so-called prophet didn't even invent it. Communism has always been in the heart of men (and women) since man walked upon this Earth. Just as religion in one form has also been in the hearts of men (and women) since man has walked upon this Earth. Christianity comes from a long line of religions before it and Judaism isn't even the oldest religion from which Christianity was born from. Atheism is a religion just as black is considered a color. In Communism, the government replaces the addiction of the magical sky fairy with the magical fairies who think they have the right to rule/Lord over you. Just like AA, Communism seeks to replace one thing for another. And the ousting of religion in the Soviet Union was the least of the issues Stalin and Lennin had to deal with. It's hard to change and ideology but it's good to be the King (Ruler/President etc.)!
  19. Van Tharp teaches people how to trade. Whether that be swing trading, day trading, with commodities, the exchanges or other wise. The first year of his training is all psychological learning about yourself in different situations over the course of a year (or longer) before he even begins to take you into the market. Knowing that aspect of yourself and your beliefs, and I mean a real honest to god truth about yourself and your beliefs, actually makes that aspect of separating your emotions from your trading or investment a whole lot easier. You cannot even move beyond this phase of his training until you have completed the psychological assignments to his satisfaction. He has been training people, and he is very picky who he trains, how to successfully trade the markets and investments for a very long time. I am not advocating you take his training nor am I affiliated with him or his business. To get into his program you have to have some serious cash to trade. Like I said knowing yourself is 95% of how to make that "easier said than done" get done. The other 5 is the research and pulling the trigger on the investment or trade. He holds in person seminars in Cary, NC (Raleigh) at least he did before COVID.
  20. Okay so no more talking about the GOI, legislation being passed or what the CBI is doing. Since they are made up of politicians who are using politics in their country to prevent the RV from happening. Gotcha! Like Sands through the desert so are the days of Iraqi politics.
  21. Let me clarify: He didn't mention the year because contextually his conversation included the year he was speaking in. Again reading comprehension. And again, overthinking is sometimes worse than the actual dialogue. If he was talking about any other year, he is a big boy with big boy britches and would have come out and said the exact year he was talking about if it were not the year he was speaking in. I have six words that you need to remember: Over analysis leads to emotional bias. Remove the emotional bias by not over analyzing. Van Tharp said that you trade the market based on your beliefs. Those beliefs rule your emotions and thus rule your investment mindset. Detatch from the emotion of investing by not over analyzing into your beliefs. Right now your belief is that you believe the RV will happen. Your emotion is to HOPE it will RV yesterday. By changing this to the belief the RV will happen and you are sure (notice I did not say hope as hope is a feeling) it will, and not go any further will stop you from over analyzing and getting your emotions in the way of your decisions. It all starts with reading comprehension though. How to read and retain the information then to make an inference of what was said is just as important. Right now your emotion of hoping it will RV yesterday (and we all want that) is interfering with your thought process of inferring what is being said in the context of what is being said. This is not putting words into someone's mouth this is deriving what is actually being said. You inferred he meant some other year when in the same paragraph of the conversation he clearly said "at the beginning of the" meaning he was still talking about the current year he speaking in. He even went so far to say it could revalue tonight, again the current year he was speaking in. More to the point he is defining the current year for September 1 by stating tonight or even at the beginning of the year. Reading comprehension without biased emotion does wonders to where you see this investment as it is a long term buy and hold investment. Please by all that is Holy, don't do long term investments again (aka swing trading). You will lose money or leave money on the table.
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