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UN = Chapter 8 = HCL = RV     

here we are again with Old Timers getting off on a some Religious Rant and ruining a great info thread that could mean something.......I can see the Political Threads and the disagreement/personal lib

Agree with Boozer.!   Perfect timing to release Iraq from remaining UN sanctions.    

First meeting between the United States and Iran on the nuclear agreement at the United Nations

September 15, 2017 at the Media Center  on the first anticipated meeting between the United States and Iran on the UN nuclear agreement 

 

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US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is expected to meet next week at the United Nations for his first meeting on the nuclear deal with his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Jawad Zarif and other parties involved in the deal, diplomats said on Thursday.

The meeting next Wednesday with Iran and the six major powers - China, France, Germany, Russia and the United States - comes as US President Donald Trump is considering a possible withdrawal from the historic 2015 agreement.

EU Foreign Minister Federica Mugherini will chair the talks on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, diplomats said.

Iranian President Hassan Rowhani is expected to address the fate of the accord in his speech Wednesday at the United Nations, a day after Trump delivered his first address to the 193-nation assembly.

On Thursday, Washington announced new sanctions against Iran targeting 11 entities and individuals supporting the Revolutionary Guards or involved in information attacks on the US financial system.

Trump is scheduled to decide on October 15 whether Iran has broken the 2015 nuclear deal and its opponents fear it could abandon an agreement it believes is preventing Tehran from making a nuclear bomb.

Under the nuclear deal, Iran handed over a lot of enriched uranium, dismantled a reactor and opened nuclear facilities to UN inspectors in exchange for the United States and Europe lifting some of the sanctions imposed on it.

During a visit to Washington in July, Zarif complained that he had to re-discuss the agreement with Tilerson and that the administration was sending "contradictory signals" about the fate of the deal.

"There is no contact between me and Tilerson," Zarif said. "That does not mean there will be no contacts. The possibilities of meeting were always open. "

Al Quds Al Arabi - Agencies

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On 9/13/2017 at 10:04 AM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

1 Thessalonians 5:3

For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them

 

 

this was taken from the United Nations site.

 

The theme for 2017 is “Together for Peace: Respect, Safety and Dignity for All.”

http://www.un.org/en/events/peaceday/

 

 

WOW LGD....did not know that was the UN theme.....yet another sign of the lateness of the hour IMHO

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13 hours ago, yota691 said:

First meeting between the United States and Iran on the nuclear agreement at the United Nations

September 15, 2017 at the Media Center  on the first anticipated meeting between the United States and Iran on the UN nuclear agreement 

 

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US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is expected to meet next week at the United Nations for his first meeting on the nuclear deal with his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Jawad Zarif and other parties involved in the deal, diplomats said on Thursday.

The meeting next Wednesday with Iran and the six major powers - China, France, Germany, Russia and the United States - comes as US President Donald Trump is considering a possible withdrawal from the historic 2015 agreement.

EU Foreign Minister Federica Mugherini will chair the talks on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, diplomats said.

Iranian President Hassan Rowhani is expected to address the fate of the accord in his speech Wednesday at the United Nations, a day after Trump delivered his first address to the 193-nation assembly.

On Thursday, Washington announced new sanctions against Iran targeting 11 entities and individuals supporting the Revolutionary Guards or involved in information attacks on the US financial system.

Trump is scheduled to decide on October 15 whether Iran has broken the 2015 nuclear deal and its opponents fear it could abandon an agreement it believes is preventing Tehran from making a nuclear bomb.

Under the nuclear deal, Iran handed over a lot of enriched uranium, dismantled a reactor and opened nuclear facilities to UN inspectors in exchange for the United States and Europe lifting some of the sanctions imposed on it.

During a visit to Washington in July, Zarif complained that he had to re-discuss the agreement with Tilerson and that the administration was sending "contradictory signals" about the fate of the deal.

"There is no contact between me and Tilerson," Zarif said. "That does not mean there will be no contacts. The possibilities of meeting were always open. "

Al Quds Al Arabi - Agencies

this is good meeting . everything can solve . See ya iran 2018 

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CNN. Broadcasting From The Trump Train Where Iran's About To Get Steamrolled !

 

 

 

Iran "not going to be in charge" in post-IS situation in Syria, Iraq - Haley

16/09/2017 | LOC00:21 21:21 GMT | Arab News

WASHINGTON, Sept 15 (KUNA) -- While US efforts in Syria and Iraq against the so-called Islamic State (IS) have been "remarkable," US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley on Friday predicted that Iran "is not going to be in charge" in a post-IS situation there. "To see how we have really bulldozed through ISIS in the way that we have shown how strong the US has been in partnership with them (US allies in Syria and Iraq)," Haley said, referring to IS. "But I think we're also looking at post-ISIS. What does that look like? And I can tell you, Iran is not going to be in charge, and Iran is not going to have any sort of leadership in that situation to where they can do more harm." Syria is "always going to be a topic," she said during a briefing at the White House to preview the US agenda at the UN General Assembly next week in New York City. "I think we continue to be strong in making sure there's no chemical weapons and making sure that we're looking at the humanitarian situation. But the US is a very strong partner in the resolution for Syria and will continue to be until we know that everything's stable." "I think we're not going to be satisfied until we see a solid and stable Syria, and that is not with Assad in place," she said, referring to Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. "But what we are going to do is continue to be very effective and be a part of that process so that we get to a resolution."

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On 9/13/2017 at 6:59 PM, skeetdog said:

Thanks Yota...After Iraq is released from Chapter VII by the UN...Chapter 8 in a nutshell is nothing more than basically the Policies and Procedures of the International guidelines on monetary etiquette....Iraq must sign and agree upon Chapter 8 to guarantee the international world that Iraq accepts the conditions of Chapter 8....

 

Isn't the real "8" we are looking for the IMF's Article "8" which would stipulate the international rules and agreements Iraq would adhere to in order the be accepted into the world's financial arena?  The UN deals in security, and the IMF deal with finances.

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Additional Comments By WalkingStick Below ...

 

 

 

Masoum cancels visit to New York

https://www.alghadpress.com/news/Iraq-News/118417/AlghadPress

Last Moments: Abadi is an alternative to infallibility by presiding over Iraq's delegation to New York at UN meetings

After reports of the possibility of sacking him, an informed source revealed Saturday that President Fuad Masum canceled his visit to New York and headed Haydar al-Abadi, the Iraqi delegation participating in the meetings of the United Nations General Assembly.

The source, who declined to be identified in Bayat, "SNG" copy of it, "The President of the Republic Fuad Masoum canceled at the last minute visit to New York to participate in the meetings of the General Assembly of the United Nations, against the background of the referendum crisis and demands to remove him from the presidency. The source did not elaborate further.

The source added that "Prime Minister Haider Abadi, who will lead the delegation instead of infallible."

This information comes after the publication of "sng" earlier in the day, reports indicate the determination of the Iraqi Council of Representatives to overthrow President Fuad Masum, and replace him with his deputy Iyad Allawi.

http://sngiq.net/wordpress/?p=83979

 

 

Awaiting more releases, will post as they come... 2 so far. I will say, according to their Constitution (which they seldom abide by) As part of his job description, President of the Republic .... includes the following. Considering what is taking place, he may find it necessary to abide to the Constitution ...

The President of the Republic is the Head of the State and a symbol of the unity of the country and represents the sovereignty of the country. He shall guarantee the commitment to the Constitution and the preservation of Iraq'sindependence, sovereignty, unity, and the safety of its territories, in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution

https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Iraq_2005.pdf?lang=en

 

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  • yota691 changed the title to Deputy: Abadi will present important files in New York from the door of power and the victorious leader
 
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Alsumaria News / Baghdad 
revealed to the Foreign Relations Committee , member of the parliamentary Abbas al - Bayati, Sunday, for files that will present Prime Minister Haider al - Abadi during his visit to New York, noting that al - Abadi will be more than thirty a meeting during the visit, in what was considered that the Abadi will speak of the power door and Commander The victor. Al-Bayati said in an interview for Alsumaria News that "Abadi will be put during his visit to New York and individual meetings that may exceed thirty meeting three important files," noting that the most prominent of these files are "my files of victories that got the preacher and the referendum of the region."

 

 


Al-Bayati said that during these meetings, Abadi will discuss "the reconstruction of liberated areas and the role of countries in supporting Iraq in the reconstruction process, after he fought on behalf of the countries of the world." 

He said al-Bayati that the Prime Minister will be carrying files to speak in terms of strength and the leader victorious over the worst and worst terrorist force known to modern history, "stressing that" the visit will be successful and strong and positive dimensions of Iraq. " 

President of the Republic Fuad Masum, 2017), the cancellation of his scheduled visit to New York and the assignment of Prime Minister Haider Abadi to address Iraq at the meetings of the General Assembly of the United Nations.

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20 hours ago, Carrello said:

 

Isn't the real "8" we are looking for the IMF's Article "8" which would stipulate the international rules and agreements Iraq would adhere to in order the be accepted into the world's financial arena?  The UN deals in security, and the IMF deal with finances.

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1 hour ago, Boozer said:

I might be wrong but it is the UN that put them in section 7  law and they need to put them in section 8 . I hope this will take place next week :praying:

 

Here are the definitions of IMF Article 8 and UN Chapter 8:

Articles of Agreement of the International Monetary Fund

April 2016

Details of Article at:

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/aa/

Article VIII: General Obligations of Members
1. Introduction
2. Avoidance of restrictions on currency payments
3. Avoidance of discriminatory currency practices
4. Convertibility of foreign-held balances
5. Furnishing of information
6. Consultation between members regarding existing international agreements
7. Obligation to collaborate regarding policies on reserve assets

 

United Nations Chapter VIII

CHAPTER VIII: REGIONAL ARRANGEMENTS

Article 52

  1. Nothing in the present Charter precludes the existence of regional arrangements or agencies for dealing with such matters relating to the maintenance of international peace and security as are appropriate for regional action provided that such arrangements or agencies and their activities are consistent with the Purposes and Principles of the United Nations.
  2. The Members of the United Nations entering into such arrangements or constituting such agencies shall make every effort to achieve pacific settlement of local disputes through such regional arrangements or by such regional agencies before referring them to the Security Council.
  3. The Security Council shall encourage the development of pacific settlement of local disputes through such regional arrangements or by such regional agencies either on the initiative of the states concerned or by reference from the Security Council.
  4. This Article in no way impairs the application of Articles 34 and 35.

Article 53

  1. The Security Council shall, where appropriate, utilize such regional arrangements or agencies for enforcement action under its authority. But no enforcement action shall be taken under regional arrangements or by regional agencies without the authorization of the Security Council, with the exception of measures against any enemy state, as defined in paragraph 2 of this Article, provided for pursuant to Article 107 or in regional arrangements directed against renewal of aggressive policy on the part of any such state, until such time as the Organization may, on request of the Governments concerned, be charged with the responsibility for preventing further aggression by such a state.
  2. The term enemy state as used in paragraph 1 of this Article applies to any state which during the Second World War has been an enemy of any signatory of the present Charter.

Article 54

The Security Council shall at all times be kept fully informed of activities undertaken or in contemplation under regional arrangements or by regional agencies for the maintenance of international peace and security.

 

http://www.un.org/en/sections/un-charter/chapter-viii/index.html

 

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This was key for me.

Section 3.  Avoidance of discriminatory currency practices

No member shall engage in, or permit any of its fiscal agencies referred to in Article V, Section 1 to engage in, any discriminatory currency arrangements or multiple currency practices, whether within or outside margins under Article IV or prescribed by or under Schedule C, except as authorized under this Agreement or approved by the Fund. If such arrangements and practices are engaged in at the date when this Agreement enters into force, the member concerned shall consult with the Fund as to their progressive removal unless they are maintained or imposed under Article XIV, Section 2, in which case the provisions of Section 3 of that Article shall apply.

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On 17/09/2017 at 12:12 AM, Carrello said:

 

Isn't the real "8" we are looking for the IMF's Article "8" which would stipulate the international rules and agreements Iraq would adhere to in order the be accepted into the world's financial arena?  The UN deals in security, and the IMF deal with finances.

 

You are right Carello, they are 2 diff things.

 

What we are looking for is for iraq to accept obligations under IMF article 8. Currently iraq is under IMF article 14.

 

But at the same time, Iraq need to be out of UN Chapter 7, completely, by 'settling' the remaining compensation file to kuwait ( amounting to about 5 billions dollar).

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Referendum and reconstruction in the bag Abadi to Washington

 Journal  September 17, 2017

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"Al-Abbadi's visit to the United States comes within the regular session of the UN General Assembly and the prime minister will head a delegation representing the Iraqi government," said Khalid al-Asadi, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee.

Al-Asadi said in a statement to «Journal News», that "Iraq's participation in the work of the General Assembly aims to demonstrate the basic positions and strategy of the government towards the local or regional and international files," stressing that "the Prime Minister will know the world sacrifices and great efforts made by Iraq in its war against Calling on the terrorist and eliminating it. "

He pointed out that "the file of the referendum will be present at the table of meetings and the position of the national government and not to allow the separation of any part of the homeland," noting that "Prime Minister Haider Abadi will demand the international community to have a decisive position towards the Kurdish referendum and to encourage the idea of separation from him and weaken the unity Iraq ".

"Abadi will also discuss the reconstruction of the liberated areas," said a member of the Foreign Relations Committee.

Al-Asadi denied the existence of bases for US forces on Iraqi soil after a stage of intimidation, stressing that Iraq and the United States are committed to the security agreement between the two parties, which allows the presence of some elements of the American advisory to train the Iraqi security forces, stressing that the presence of US bases needs to vote from the Iraqi parliament and its ratification A new agreement, and such agreements can not be discussed in isolation from parliament.

 

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Deputy: Abadi will present important files in New York from the door of power and the victorious leader

 

A member of the Foreign Relations Committee MP Abbas al-Bayati on Sunday revealed the files to be presented by Prime Minister Haider Abadi during his visit to New York, adding that Abadi will hold more than thirty meetings during that visit. Al-Bayati said in an interview for Alsumaria News that "Abadi will be put during his visit to New York and individual meetings that may exceed thirty meeting three important files," noting that the most prominent of these files are "my files of victories that got the preacher and the referendum of the region."

Al-Bayati said that during these meetings, Abadi will discuss "the reconstruction of liberated areas and the role of countries in supporting Iraq in the reconstruction process, after he fought on behalf of the countries of the world." 

He said al-Bayati that the Prime Minister will be carrying files to speak in terms of strength and the leader victorious over the worst and worst terrorist force known to modern history, "stressing that" the visit will be successful and strong and positive dimensions of Iraq, " 

President of the Republic Fuad Masum, 2017), the cancellation of his scheduled visit to New York and the assignment of Prime Minister Haider Abadi to address Iraq at the meetings of the General Assembly of the United Nations.

http://www.alsumaria.tv/news/2.....2%D9%88/ar

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Close to Abadi reveals an Iraqi-Turkish-Iranian summit in America on the referendum

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BAGHDAD (Reuters 

) - An Iraqi-Turkish-Iranian summit in New York City will be held at the level of leaders of these countries to bring out a unified response to Kurdish separatism, a deputy close to Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Monday. "The participation of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, President of the Republic of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan and President of the Islamic Republic of Iran Hassan Rowhani at the UN General Assembly in New York is the most important opportunity to hold a trilateral summit between these parties," Jaafar said in a statement. He added that "Abadi will meet with leaders of those countries concerned with the Kurdish issue to discuss the appropriate response to the separatist trend of the Kurdistan region ahead of the referendum." Jafar pointed out that "

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Date of release: 2017/9/17 18:31 • 668 times read
Abadi heads to New York this evening
[Ayna-Baghdad] 
Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi heads to New York City on Sunday evening to attend the UN General Assembly.
A source close to the agency told the whole Iraq [where] that "Abadi will travel this evening from Baghdad International Airport to New York, accompanied by a ministerial delegation and a number of officials." Abadi announced last Tuesday that he would go to New York to attend UN meetings and deliver a speech on behalf of President Fuad Masum, who announced yesterday his cancellation of travel there. He pointed out that this emergency decision came for the immediate purpose of initiating a dialogue between leaders of political forces. Facing the country. The President also referred to the assignment of Abadi to call Iraq to the meetings of the international organization. Abadi will meet several leaders and leaders of the world, headed by US President Donald Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to discuss the developments of the war on the preacher and the crisis of the referendum in the Kurdistan region.
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Abadi postponed his trip to New York tomorrow to receive the Kurdish delegation

September18, 2017

.....Abadi postpones travel to New York tomorrow to receive Kurdish delegation ...

http://www.knoozmedia.com/2578.....D8%B3/  

 

Source: Abadi postpones his travel to New York .. for this reason

A source close to Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said Monday that the latter had postponed .his trip to New York, citing the reason for the delay The source said the "Baghdad today," that "Prime Minister Haider Abadi, he traveled to New York tomorrow, in order to receive the Kurdish delegation, which is visiting the capital Baghdad on Tuesday to discuss the issue of the referendum, especially after recent ".developments on it Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has decided this week to go to the United States to attend the UN General Assembly. "The visit to New York will be held at the United Nations headquarters in two or three days, with about 30 international leaders to discuss some issues, such as total stability after the liberation of Iraq from economic problems,"

Abbadi said in an interview with the Associated Press. "We need support not only for liberated areas, but for Iraq as a whole."
"We fought the terrorists and liberated our regions. We want the region and the world to know that Iraq will be better after eliminating terrorism, so one of the main reasons for ".visiting New York is to keep the focus on Iraq only I have shown the leaders of the region that this success and stability is for all of us, and we" will lose all if our governments are weak and worn out, if we disagree in opinions, the world will not help us and our consensus will support us the world." As for the second objective of
the visit, Abadi said: "Iraq will enter a new phase. We are moving forward on the reconstruction mission. We want to make cooperative agreements between the Iraqi and international intelligence systems. Abadi visited Washington in March at an official invitation from US President Donald Trump to discuss the war on terrorism and Iraq's need for more.

http://baghdadtoday.news/news/.....8%A8%D8%A8

 

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International draft resolution condemning «calling»

   
 

 
 


18/9/2017 12:17 AM 

 BAGHDAD / Al-Sabah  
In response to the request of Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the UN Security Council is preparing in the coming days to vote on an Iraqi draft resolution to collect evidence condemning the organization "da'ash" for terrorist crimes, allowing the United Nations to assist the Iraqi government through the establishment of an international team to collect evidence against terrorists And pursue them internationally. 
"The current draft resolution authorizes UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterich to establish an investigation team to help the Baghdad government find evidence to convict the organization's members of crimes amounting to war crimes and crimes," the Associated Press quoted a diplomatic source familiar with the draft resolution as saying. Against humanity and mass murder, "and the diplomatic source suggested that the vote on the draft resolution next Thursday  

Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari sent a letter to the United Nations last month requesting international assistance. "Britain and Iraq are working on a draft resolution to be presented to the council to ensure accountability for the crimes of the terrorist organization in  
his country," he said.
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