yota691 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Written by : Hamza Mustafa on : Friday, 3 Oct, 2014 Iraq: Stalemate continues over finalizing government formationConfusion remains over two key ministerial positions Haider Al-Abadi attends the parliament session to submit his government at the parliament headquarters in Baghdad, Iraq, on September 8, 2014. (Reuters/Thaier Al-Sudani) Baghdad, Asharq Al-Awsat—Iraq’s main political camps remain unable to agree on candidates for two key ministerial positions, dashing hopes that government line-up could be finalized ahead of Eid Al-Adha. Iraqi parliamentary rapporteur Niyazi Uglu said on Thursday that the parliament will not be able to convene to name candidates for the interior and defense ministries, without explaining why. Earlier this week, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi announced he would discuss with the Speaker of the Parliament Salim Al-Jubouri the possibility of holding a parliamentary session before Eid Al-Adha to vote on candidates for the remaining ministerial portfolios. The Shi’ite-majority National Alliance debated on Thursday a special mechanism for choosing a candidate for the defense ministry, a source who spoke on the condition of anonymity told Asharq Al-Awsat. He said: “The content of the mechanism suggests that Abadi puts forward a group of candidates to the National Alliance to vote on and the one with the most votes becomes the alliance’s candidate for the ministry.” Meanwhile, there were contradicting reports about whether former Iraqi Minister of Finance Rafie Al-Issawi will stand as the Sunni-majority Iraqi Forces Alliance’s candidate for the interior ministry. Issawi served as the country’s finance minister under former Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki between 2010 and 2013 before he was sacked over corruption and terror charges. Speaking exclusively to Asharq Al-Awsat senior Iraqi Forces Alliance MP Mohamed Al-Khalidi denied the reports, maintaining that his alliance remains torn between Khaled Al-Obaidi and Jaber Al-Jabri for the interior portfolio. “Fabricated remarks about nominating Issawi were falsely attributed to Muttahidoun Bloc leader Osama Nujaifi [who] asked me to inform the media about his denial,” he said. However, another Iraqi Forces Alliance MP Raad Al-Dahlaki told Asharq Al-Awsat Issawi remains “one of the most prominent names put forward,” maintaining that all charges against him will be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrparrot Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 This isn't rocket science. I can have their government done in a day. All I need is a roulette wheel, strips of paper the size of fortune cookie fortunes, and lots of brown paper bags. On the wheel is written all the blocs. On strips of paper are written the ministerial positions, and placed in a bag.. Each bloc is given a brown paper bag and enough strips of paper to write down each members name. Do you see where I'm going with this...? Al-Abadi spins the wheel and when it stops on a bloc, he reaches into his bag and pulls out a strip of paper with a ministerial position written on it.. That bloc then reaches into their bag and pulls out a name. Ministerial position one is filled. Repeat until Al-Abadi's bag is empty... It just doesn't get any fairer or random than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 The Iraq Way... SOON ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheresmyRV? Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 With Malakis cronies being in parliament Abadi is a lame duck. They want him to nominate Malakis buddies for the last two spots but Abadi says no. Its starting to look like this struggle will probably go into next year the way it is looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 YEARS LATER Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Lock & chain the doors. No food, only tea and water. They don't get out until the deal is done . . . and there will NOT be a supply of Depends either ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrparrot Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Lock & chain the doors. No food, only tea and water. They don't get out until the deal is done . . . and there will NOT be a supply of Depends either ! You're too nice. Let them have food. Del Taco, with lots of Del Scorcho Sauce. That stuff gives me the Del Squirto's... Beer. Lots of beer. THEN lock and chain the doors... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcfrag Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Unholy She~ite! What is the deal with the Interior and Defense Ministers? No one ever wants to fill these 2 positions. What is so difficult about the Defense and Interior spots???? Edited October 4, 2014 by jcfrag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 YEARS LATER Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 You're too nice. Let them have food. Del Taco, with lots of Del Scorcho Sauce. That stuff gives me the Del Squirto's... Beer. Lots of beer. THEN lock and chain the doors... . . . and that's all she wrote. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what else would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryMary Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 mrparrot hahahaha and ha! I like how you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Unholy She~ite! What is the deal with the Interior and Defense Ministers? No one ever wants to fill these 2 positions. What is so difficult about the Defense and Interior spots???? Not so! These are two HOT positions with big budgets and political power. Defense controls the military and interior controls the police force ... The wrong person in ether position could mount a coup and take over. if Maliki gets one of his boys in he might try. I think that is what is making a selection difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calkid11 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Thank you 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanders2340 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 With Malakis cronies being in parliament Abadi is a lame duck. They want him to nominate Malakis buddies for the last two spots but Abadi says no. Its starting to look like this struggle will probably go into next year the way it is looking. This is why the Kurds votes are so important. They are not playing unless they get all of thier demands met. I think they have about 40 votes. Votes that need a simple majority, will pass once the Kurds are on board. When the Kurds come back to the government, it don't matter what Maliki goons do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperwaits Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Rockfl9 and sanders2340.....thank you for explaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeetdog Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Thanks Yota....Hell, if these two positions are so powerful. Instead of having a single person occupy the slot...evolve both positions where a member of each party sets on a panel to represent the parties view on the responsibly that are required. This would allow any actions taken in either position to have complete acknowledgement of any operation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvlr787 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Thanks Yota....Hell, if these two positions are so powerful. Instead of having a single person occupy the slot...evolve both positions where a member of each party sets on a panel to represent the parties view on the responsibly that are required. This would allow any actions taken in either position to have complete acknowledgement of any operation.... No disrespect but this IS Iraq. If you got that many people trying to make a decision they would give a whole new meaning to the word "soon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Thanks Yota....Hell, if these two positions are so powerful. Instead of having a single person occupy the slot...evolve both positions where a member of each party sets on a panel to represent the parties view on the responsibly that are required. This would allow any actions taken in either position to have complete acknowledgement of any operation.... The constitution requires one person in charge and when that election is made ther may be no recall. the trigger is pulled ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeetdog Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 ''Thanks for the insight...No disrespect taken''.. .... I've had good ideas and not so good ideas... ... This aint one of them...... ..........Keep the Faith..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcfrag Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 So I could understand Maliki's hesitation. I just can't understand the new PM's dilemma.... Not so! These are two HOT positions with big budgets and political power. Defense controls the military and interior controls the police force ... The wrong person in ether position could mount a coup and take over. if Maliki gets one of his boys in he might try. I think that is what is making a selection difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectron Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Thanks for the post yota. Why am I not surprised!!! I can make bets on these guys putting things off and winning every time.., easier than the horse (Camel) races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calijim Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Maybe they should give defense to the Kurds since they are the army kikin a$$ on ISIS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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