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Sent to me from a friend and I thought I should share: Married or not… you should read this. Marriage. “When I got home that night as my wife served dinner, I held her hand and said, I’ve got something to tell you. She sat down and ate quietly. Again I observed the hurt in her eyes. Suddenly I didn’t know how to open my mouth. But I had to let her know what I was thinking. I want a divorce. I raised the topic calmly. She didn’t seem to be annoyed by my words, instead she asked me softly, why? I avoided her question. This made her angry. She threw away the chopsticks and shouted at me, you are not a man! That night, we didn’t talk to each other. She was weeping. I knew she wanted to find out what had happened to our marriage. But I could hardly give her a satisfactory answer; she had lost my heart to Jane. I didn’t love her anymore. I just pitied her! With a deep sense of guilt, I drafted a divorce agreement which stated that she could own our house, our car, and 30% stake of my company. She glanced at it and then tore it into pieces. The woman who had spent ten years of her life with me had become a stranger. I felt sorry for her wasted time, resources and energy but I could not take back what I had said for I loved Jane so dearly. Finally she cried loudly in front of me, which was what I had expected to see. To me her cry was actually a kind of release. The idea of divorce which had obsessed me for several weeks seemed to be firmer and clearer now. The next day, I came back home very late and found her writing something at the table. I didn’t have supper but went straight to sleep and fell asleep very fast because I was tired after an eventful day with Jane. When I woke up, she was still there at the table writing. I just did not care so I turned over and was asleep again. In the morning she presented her divorce conditions: she didn’t want anything from me, but needed a month’s notice before the divorce. She requested that in that one month we both struggle to live as normal a life as possible. Her reasons were simple: our son had his exams in a month’s time and she didn’t want to disrupt him with our broken marriage. This was agreeable to me. But she had something more, she asked me to recall how I had carried her into out bridal room on our wedding day. She requested that every day for the month’s duration I carry her out of our bedroom to the front door ever morning. I thought she was going crazy. Just to make our last days together bearable I accepted her odd request. I told Jane about my wife’s divorce conditions. . She laughed loudly and thought it was absurd. No matter what tricks she applies, she has to face the divorce, she said scornfully. My wife and I hadn’t had any body contact since my divorce intention was explicitly expressed. So when I carried her out on the first day, we both appeared clumsy. Our son clapped behind us, daddy is holding mommy in his arms. His words brought me a sense of pain. From the bedroom to the sitting room, then to the door, I walked over ten meters with her in my arms. She closed her eyes and said softly; don’t tell our son about the divorce. I nodded, feeling somewhat upset. I put her down outside the door. She went to wait for the bus to work. I drove alone to the office. On the second day, both of us acted much more easily. She leaned on my chest. I could smell the fragrance of her blouse. I realized that I hadn’t looked at this woman carefully for a long time. I realized she was not young any more. There were fine wrinkles on her face, her hair was graying! Our marriage had taken its toll on her. For a minute I wondered what I had done to her. On the fourth day, when I lifted her up, I felt a sense of intimacy returning. This was the woman who had given ten years of her life to me. On the fifth and sixth day, I realized that our sense of intimacy was growing again. I didn’t tell Jane about this. It became easier to carry her as the month slipped by. Perhaps the everyday workout made me stronger. She was choosing what to wear one morning. She tried on quite a few dresses but could not find a suitable one. Then she sighed, all my dresses have grown bigger. I suddenly realized that she had grown so thin, that was the reason why I could carry her more easily. Suddenly it hit me… she had buried so much pain and bitterness in her heart. Subconsciously I reached out and touched her head. Our son came in at the moment and said, Dad, it’s time to carry mom out. To him, seeing his father carrying his mother out had become an essential part of his life. My wife gestured to our son to come closer and hugged him tightly. I turned my face away because I was afraid I might change my mind at this last minute. I then held her in my arms, walking from the bedroom, through the sitting room, to the hallway. Her hand surrounded my neck softly and naturally. I held her body tightly; it was just like our wedding day. But her much lighter weight made me sad. On the last day, when I held her in my arms I could hardly move a step. Our son had gone to school. I held her tightly and said, I hadn’t noticed that our life lacked intimacy. I drove to office…. jumped out of the car swiftly without locking the door. I was afraid any delay would make me change my mind…I walked upstairs. Jane opened the door and I said to her, Sorry, Jane, I do not want the divorce anymore. She looked at me, astonished, and then touched my forehead. Do you have a fever? She said. I moved her hand off my head. Sorry, Jane, I said, I won’t divorce. My marriage life was boring probably because she and I didn’t value the details of our lives, not because we didn’t love each other anymore. Now I realize that since I carried her into my home on our wedding day I am supposed to hold her until death do us apart. Jane seemed to suddenly wake up. She gave me a loud slap and then slammed the door and burst into tears. I walked downstairs and drove away. At the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet of flowers for my wife. The salesgirl asked me what to write on the card. I smiled and wrote, I’ll carry you out every morning until death do us apart. That evening I arrived home, flowers in my hands, a smile on my face, I run up stairs, only to find my wife in the bed - dead. My wife had been fighting CANCER for months and I was so busy with Jane to even notice. She knew that she would die soon and she wanted to save me from the whatever negative reaction from our son, in case we push through with the divorce.— At least, in the eyes of our son—- I’m a loving husband…. The small details of your lives are what really matter in a relationship. It is not the mansion, the car, property, the money in the bank. These create an environment conducive for happiness but cannot give happiness in themselves. So find time to be your spouse’s friend and do those little things for each other that build intimacy. Do have a real happy marriage! If you don’t share this, nothing will happen to you. If you do, you just might save a marriage. Many of life’s failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.”

Ok people, calm down and relax. A few truths about the dinar... 1) we can't make this investment mature ourselves. So enjoy life and let time be on our side. 2) no one (on earth) knows the hour in which the RV will happen. So forget the predictions brought up by gurus 3) no one knows the rate, just a bunch of educated guesses. So be happy, when it rv's and you make a profit. 4) to many people I talk to have let this investment run their lives. Your in control of your life don't let this take over! There's alot more feel free to add to the list if you have some truths. Bottom line no one knows (on earth) what the rate and date is. So calm down be patient and quit listening to the hype and watch policy, follow the money. God bless

Hello. This is my first post. I've been lurking for quite some time, and registered as a member earlier this year and was a VIP for a short while. I have generally chosen not to post in the past given the disrespect shown to many self-professed gurus, who, although getting it wrong much of the time, have offered truthful insight in a number of ways and on a number of occasions. Much of their commentary is beyond the comprehension of the masses given that the majority of the world's populace is not equipped with the true facts as to how finance, commerce, and the law actually work (I could go further to include the universe here but that's another discussion), given that schools, universities and modern text books all omit huge issues that when known change one's perception of what was previously considered a common truth or accepted fact. The same can be said for the gurus, who, whilst are equipped with more facts than the majority, their version of "the truth" is still not the full pictue either, hence their continued perceived failure to date. Anyway, I wanted to respond to this thread given this appears to be a common issue of confusion. I apologise now for the length of post, however many basic assumptions must be overturned if one is to understand this investment. It is a fallacy that fiat currencies are not backed by anything. They are backed by the faith that a country is able to pay off it's "promises to pay" (which is all that your notes are); it doesn't matter how, so this naturally includes assets. Some background is needed to understand how this actually works in practice, and how it is accomplished administratively is nothing short of amazing in one's honest opinion. The current economic system is actually a world-wide bankruptcy system whereby all countries operate as if they were in bankruptcy as far as law is concerned, the US included (for confirmation regarding the USA, look up comments made by Jim Traficant). This is the only way in law that fiat currencies can be implemented. Accordingly, the economic system is an entity that is wholly owned and controlled (and often manipulated) by those creditors holding the banktruptcy liens; property rights dictate that they can do what they want with their property. People will naturally cry that this is a conspiracy theory here, however if they were to do the research they would find that the facts are out there and fully documented. Hence the current perceived meltdown is a controlled demolition, but from the highest levels, so even those corporations people deem as having been pulling the strings are subject to their creators, and in turn those are subject to the creators of the system. Fortunately, the system's creator is sorting things out and pulling the plug on many of these guys (scapegoating!), hence this is why it appears that at one level there is a battle for control going on; the truth is that there is only going to be one winner and this is predetermined by contractual obligation. That winner is all of us - eventually. This is why people feel their rights have been stolen. What has actually occurred is that you have given your consent to exchange these natural rights for privileges determined by those in charge. The larger commerical system of law that the bankruptcy economy sits within is where transactions of actual substance take place, and where gold and other substances are the currency, and this is the system within which creditors play. At this level, statutes of law are irrelevant, since their jurisdiction is limited to the debtors, ie all those people who do not realise the part they play in the world. This is the reason why it so often appears as there being "one law for them and one for us"; it is because that is the case! However all are in the position they are in via their own consent, hence it feels unjust that some are prosecuted for an offence that others will not be, however it is all about jurisdiction and contractual obligation and one's current place in the world; we all have the ability to rise up beyond it, however it is a philosophical journey to some extent that many don't have the will to pursue. In fact, this is largely why this has remained undiscoverd by the masses; people police themselves and the rest of society using ridicule and assertions that something is a conspiracy theory or people are nut-jobs etc. People would do well to remember: condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance (Einstein). One must also remember the legal adage of "he who has the gold must pays the bills"; it is the creditors are responsible for a countries well-being, or not. Any person who is not aware that this is the case, is lawfully a debtor to these creditors, no matter how much "money" one thinks they have, since this "money" is actually only a promise to pay the creditor in energy, in the future. In law, all have given their consent for this to be the case, through their tacit acceptance and use of the system, hence their current legal status of being subject to statutes etc whether they deem them unfair or unlawful or not. (There are many films serving as metaphors for this concept: creditors are oftern depicted as vampires... they suck your blood, or rather your life force, ie your energy). Democracy, has two faces. On one side and at face value, it is allowing the people control of their destiny. On the other, it is a tool to make people believe they have a say when really they do not. It is mob rule where the majority wins, however the majority can be manipulated as you see today with the press and its consolidated ownership by a few. The rule of law, and constitutions etc, were put in place to prevent this manipulation and safe guarding basic rights so one cannot be persecuted as a minortiy via new laws (really just rules you have agreed to)... (there is no protection today - some minorities are protected but others are not). However, these constitutions do not apply to debtors within the system since they have given up that right by their own consent! The next stage is either to remove this layer of illusory control via commerce and go back to the consitution etc, or raise the understanding of all so that full use can be made of the systems that have been invented for the benefit of all. This choice is not clear in the public eye therefore a return to constitutional rule is the common solution put forth due to people being ignorant that there are other solutions, however this will result in a situation of scarcity, and an uprising of people who are going without. All of it is only possible because neither side of the argument understands the facts of the matter. So, back to the point,. the faith in being able to repay, is a reflection of the assets that a country has, which whilst in many cases will include substances such as gold and oil etc which have themselves been monetised within the bankruptcy system through the creation of legal title against an entity (person) who themselves are assets of the country, the majority of a currency's value is backed by the assets known as... the people, and their propensity to work (to labour and create motion) and pay taxes. The people, via the process of birth registration (check your birth certificate, it is bank note paper) are technically the assets or chattels of the country (again, techincally this is on a temporary basis however because people don't realise or choose not to reject this it is effectively permanent), and therefore a country can secure loans etc against their collateral, ie people (hence there is no political will to reduce immigration - more people equals more collateral). Currencies work the same way, and assuming everyone realised this is what backs fiat currencies, said currencies would always have value as long as there are people prepared to work and can do, since currencies are a reflection of energy, and are a tool to control and direct the flow of energy (and largely here I mean labour), or even save it for a later date. This is why security, infrastructure and industry are so important and such a big focus before the revaluing of the Iraqi currency, since during the war years there has been no ability for people to effectively work and therefore be taxed (and consequently the currency had little or no value). The revaluing will effectively correspond to the monetisation of the people by creating conditions to allow them to operate in the same manner as other countries, thereby backing the currency by their energy for the most par. People themselves have a value to a country, and these values are calculated based on all manner of criteria including birth-weight, gender etc using an internationally agreed (or rather centrally set) algorithm within admiralty laws ; this enables countries to quantify the energy that it's populace can contribute to the economy for use in determining currency values etc.One must remember that oil is valuable because it is energy; but the people are also a form of energy, given that without them corporations would be worthless since nothing can happen without a pair of hands to do it, and in fact people have a greater value given that said energy is largely unlimited. This, coupled with their vast natural resources, is why Iraq's currency could be very strong. Largely their population is very young which is another bonus, as therefore they have considerable energy, many years of work ahead of them, and the older population that would rely on consuming the energy of others, is largely irrelevant due to their low numbers following the wars. Extra. All those who feel corporations should be taxed more fail to understand that corporations cannot be taxed since it is only the workers that put anything in; accordingly it is the workers who are actually being taxed. The word corporation is derived from cooperation. The idea of a corporation was to pool energy for the collective benefit, however they system has been perverted for the benefit of the handul at the top, and today we take this as standard despite it not being how things were meant to be. Some will say this was a necessity due to the lack of understanding by the majority, however I would argue that a better approach would have been to raise people's understanding instead so all work together for the benefit of all. The truth is, there is no need for tax at all. What it occurring is the division and conquering of the people so that you will submit to the forthcoming solution of a centralised top down led dictatorship; one side wants benefits etc for everyone and high tax on high earners, the other sees this as unfair that they are working hard and paying for others and therefore they want reduced taxes and less benefits. The truth is that we can have the best of both worlds.... and a centralised system would offer great advantages, but only if achieved with the masses having full understanding and consciously consenting. There is no need to give up sovereignty, boundaries or any of these other illusory things, provided everyone has full awareness - something the interent is helping to deliver. If a country authorises a centralised power to act on its behalf, it can withdraw that consent and authorisation at any time, provided it is represented by persons of honesty, integrity, and full awareness to the facts. The same holds true on an individual level - it is simply a case of understanding the correct administrative methods to adjust one's legal status. If you don't like something, step out of the jurisdiction - and this does not mean you actually have to move! The invention of double entry bookkeeping, together with the system of birth registration and therefore value quantifying of individuals could be used to provide all services we currently have without the need for taxation to pay for it. The money is already there, just held in trust because the people are unaware so they will not take it back. Far better would be for people to know, but still leave it there for the benefit of all - services could then be paid for using these trusts and money never needs to be repaid to anyone because it is only yourself that you would owe. Currently banks seemingly create money - what is actually occurring is that they are monetising a loan application, where people are promising to pay back $x via their labour (energy). This can work the same for benefits - money can be created for someone's unemployment cheque by the authorising the access of their personal trust (based on your birth certificate) and creation of money against their name, however as above, there is no need to repay yourself! The current push by many parties to return to substance backed currencies, ie precious metals etc, is a deception. It may however occur for a short while, effectively between banktruptcy terms. This is the end of the 70 years banktruptcy term within which countries find themselves, and therefore this is a major opportunity. Understandably many parties who have discovered they are being used as collateral are unhappy with this and are trying to break free, ie the conspiracy theory movement. What they fail to understand is that fiat currencies are an invention, an idea, to be used for the benefit of mankind. They have taken us a long way in developing the world, and although leverage is a dirty word, the progress that has been made would not have been without fiat currencies and leverage etc. The problem has been that the trustees of the national bankruptcy states have colluded to benefit themselves at the expense of the people (from one perspective - although from their own they are doing it for your benefit, to teach you). The current time is a time where these trustees can be changed due to the end of the term, and the system can be used for the benefit of all rather than just a few, if only everyone had full awareness of the issues. So the major piece still required to finish this puzzle, is for people to actually realise all this. The debts do not need to be repaid. Yes the debts have acted as a yoke round people's necks, however in the language of law, this has been via our own consent. Now is the time to wake up! There is never anyone to blame but one's self. All debts can be paid off instantly via the correct administrative process by a person with the correct status in law, and this is all going to occur anyway despite people not realising what the problem actually is (and therefore it being impossible for them to see a solution). Many people believe that they need to be freed from the current system. It should be considered that freedom comes in many forms. I would argue that people would be freer if thay understood and could use the system correctly and therefore remain in this effective bankruptcy situation but via choice and awareness rather than deception, as opposed to withdrawing from the system altogether and therefore not receiving any of the great benefits as a substance backed system would deliver. Because said substances are finite, this type of system creates a scenario of scarcity and fear (of not having enough!) and therefore hoarding, self-centred focus, and consequently war (often this feels out of duty to protect one's neighbour, however it is an illusion!). Fiat systems allow abundance due to the energy being unlimited and help reduce said fear, provided there is conscious consent and awareness of the true system mechanism. Freedom is having choice. Currently people think they have choice, but they largely do not - they are forced either via peer pressure, "laws" of society, and most importantly deceptive tactics of subliminial conditioning to make them think that a thought is there own, when it has simply been suggested to them. To touch on the universal level, it is fear that maintains the world's problems. Remove it, and the world would be a much happier place. All this can only be achieved via education as to the true mechanisms of the current systems. A good start would be the removal of tax! (Taxes go to the creditors, not on benefits for the debtors - these benefits are paid for using the exact method I suggest ie double entry book-keeping and trust accounts via your application for said benefits, however the deception is that you are told that your taxes pay for these benefits hence dividing you from your neighbour who is receiving the benefits of what you perceive to be your labour but in reality it is his own money, you're just both being conned). This may not make any sense to most, but I hope for some, it may strike a chord. I wrote this out quickly in one go so if it reads as disjointed I apologise... just offering a perspective. I happily accept criticism and abuse given I have chosen to post this with my eyes open. It is a difficult subject to write about given there are just so many angles and so many assumptions that must be broked and replaced with new ones. Have a good day guys. Please keep this in Rumours as it will not get read in Perspectives. And treat it as entertainment

For all of the Christians on DV........... how about we join in unison and all pray on a designated day and time? You know prayer in unison can be mightly powerful. Our prayer would not be for the RV, but for proetection and guidance on each of our lives and our famililes lives no matter what may happen here. Protection for America and the other countries of the world to live in Peace. And protection for the citizens of Iraq who have worked to make a new life for themselves. And lastly to all the people of DV who have high inspirations for financial security and that whatever happens we pray for Gods presence in each of their lives. Since it seems many of us are on this site everyday or two, we are a family........... a Dinar Vets family. As a family we can pray together can rejoice together and let God know he is still number 1 in our lives. Whether the RV happens or not, I am still a Christian and always will be because our true rewards await us in heaven. Please indicate your desire to be part of a of this DV prayer.

I'm not one for long goodbye's so I'll keep this short. I wont be about on DV anymore, just taken on another project it's a big one and hugely complicated it's gonna take up all my spare time and well I just wont have the space in my schedule anymore to post anything apart from the odd post late at night. I hope someone else takes over posting the Auction results (thats directed towards you Billiebot lol ), and I wish you all the best in everything you do, so it's with a sad heart I must sign off. I'll miss you all and hope to see you all at the post RV party. The Machine

hello my friend. firstly the usd is what is termed FIAT currency. it is valued by DECREE and not by SUBSTANCE. a dollar is a dollar and has the value of a dollar because it has been decreed to have the value of a dollar by those who created it. 1933 and FDR (Roosevelt) and the federal reserve began the change of monetary policy into what is observed today. FIAT, money by decree. FIAT money dominates the global monetary policy. i strongly suggest you watch the video "money as debt". it will literally change your world view after 45 minutes of audience and 3x watching it until it finally sinks in. 5 years ago i my brother introduced it to me and i can truly attest to how it began me down a road of complete transformation in how i view the world. next i suggest reading up on the petro dollar. it is the measure of control by the united states and its military industrial complex to control its interest in the global economy by denominating global oil reserves in united states fiat currency. this too will change your world view. i suggest ordering "Petrodollar Warfare: Oil, Iraq and the Future of the Dollar". the IMF, World Bank, WTO, Bank of International Settlements et al. work in the realm of fiat currency and has established a system of money for the world around these guidelines. it is a system that is removed from substance money and essentially common law courts (substance courts) into a world of "colorful" courts or commercial courts ruled by non-substance and governed or regulated by bills, notes and bonds (insurances). this is a study in and of itself. if you ever get a chance, read up or google the uniform commercial code. this IS the new law of lands over which the world banking system now rules. i think i have given you enough to begin your educational digging. be blessed my friend.

The law of the First Amendment of the Law of the customs tariff number (22) for the year 2010 الخميس 24 تشرين الثاني 2011 Thursday November 24, 2011 بإسم الشعب Name of the people رئاسة الجمهورية Presidency بناء على ما أقره مجلس النواب استنادا إلى أحكام البند ( أولا ) من المادة ( 61 ) واستنادا إلى احكام البند ( ثالثا ) من المادة ( 73 ) من الدستور ، قرر رئيس الجمهورية Based on what passed the House on the basis of the provisions of item (I) of Article (61) and based on the provisions of item (iii) of Article (73) of the Constitution, the President of the Republic إصدار القانون الآتي: Issued the following law: رقم ( ) لسنة 2011 No. () for the year 2011 قانون Law التعديل الاول لقانون التعرفة الكمركية رقم ( 22 ) لسنة 2010 The First Amendment of the Law of the customs tariff number (22) for the year 2010 المادة – 1 – Article 1 - - يلغى نص المادة ( 11 ) من قانون التعرفة الكمركية رقم ( 22 ) لسنة 2010 ويحل محله ما يأتي: The text of Article (11) of the Law on customs tariff number (22) for the year 2010 and replaced by the following: المادة – 11 – Article - 11 - يحدد تاريخ نفاذ هذا القانون ببيان يصدر من مجلس الوزراء. Determines the effective date of this Act a statement issued by the Council of Ministers. المادة – 2 – Article - 2 - ينفذ هذا القانون اعتبارا من 30/6/2011. This law as of 30/6/2011. الاسباب الموجبة The reasons لغرض تاجيل تطبيق قانون التعرفة الكمركية في الوقت الحاضر والسماح لمجلس الوزراء بتحديد الوقت الملائم لتطبيقه وفقاً لمتطلبات الوضع الاقتصادي. For the purpose of postponing the implementation of the law of customs tariff at the present time and to allow the Council of Ministers determine the appropriate time to apply to and in accordance with the requirements of the economic situation. شرع هذا القانون. Initiated this law. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.parliament.iq/&ei=Af3PTr2dDMaviQK8lfywBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://parliament.iq/%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1182%26bih%3D877%26prmd%3Dimvns

I must admit that I think Squirelly Jonny is full of crap but I was talking to my brother just saying happy T Day and all that and he mentioned that a close friend of his wifes family was indeed in Lockdown until yesterday afternoon as an employee of the US Treasury. My brother does not surf these forums and has been very reluctant to spend a single dollar on the dinar so I trust what he told me. Here's to hoping S

If you think about Iraq in a global sense, we would be arrogant to believe that we control too much as far as the RV. Many countries and governments are involved. Oil and natural gas dependent countries like China, Germany, and Japan. Make all the deals you can Iraq and then try to dictate terms on the level of Iran and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Maliki as a puppet of Iran. Good luck with that. Better fall in line and become self sufficient or we and others WILL put your house in order. No the military is not leaving your country and as a matter of fact we and others are narrowing the boarders of Iran. Believe all the press you want too, However; we will still be there. We put too much blood in the game and too much is at stake to be able to straighten their country out just to give them free reign again to screw it up again. We still have a presence in Cuba after how long? 70 years, Good luck with the total troop withdraws by End of Dec. Just reflecting. And Mahmoud Ahmadinejad you little pip squeak... Your not kidding anyone.

No need to listen to the whole thing but he basically says, just relax and enjoy your time with family. This thing is a lock. http://breitlingcurrency.blogspot.com/2011_11_24_archive.html

TrinityeXchange, thank you for your informative and polite response to this question. I have not seen the video, but will spend some time watching it today. Like many people here, I spend a lot of time researching but unfortunately, I don't have a background in banking, finance, Middle Eastern politics, etc. There is so much information out there. It really helps when the more informed members can point us in the right direction. You and many others do this often and quite patiently, so plus one to you. My background is automotive products liability defense. Totally useless here. But I can tell you exactly what happens when a seatbelt fails or an airbag doesn't deploy in an accident sequence. just FYI, everyone should have a blunt object like a hammer in the driver door of their car to break themselves out of the window (doors often overheat and "melt" shut in an accident) as well as a pair of scissors taped to the driver door (to cut yourself out of your seatbelt in the event the belt fails, happens often, or to rescue a child trapped in a car seat). That's my utterly useless 2 cents for the day. Just want to keep you DV members safe pre and post RV! Everyone have a great day and go RV!

Thanks captain obvious. That smell is a guru fart.

We seem to have no problem waiting for Christ' return, using these very rules. If only we anticipated Christ's return with the same fervor! Now that would make the world a better place!!!

Iraq to sign final Shell gas deal Sunday BASRA, Iraq | Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:12am EST Nov 25 (Reuters) - Iraq on Sunday will sign the final $17-billion deal with Royal Dutch Shell and Mitsubishi to capture flared gas despite a legal challenge from local officials, head of state-run South Gas Company said on Friday. The 25-year venture is expected to help Iraq make use of more than 700 million cubic feet per day of gas that is now being burned and help generate much-needed electric power. "There were some legal issues but these have been resolved," Director General Ali Khudhier told Reuters on the sidelines of an oil and gas conference in Basra. "It is the final contract, there were no changes," he said. The contract had been scheduled to be signed on Nov. 24 and will go ahead on Sunday even though some members of the Basra Provincial Council say they plan to present a lawsuit because the council was not included in talks on the agreement. "We are getting ready to present a legal case against the oil ministry," said provincial council member Farid Khalid. Khudhier said the council members were not opposing the Shell deal itself, but wanted to have a larger participation in decisions on the agreement. The Shell deal is one of the largest agreements signed with a foreign energy company by Iraq as the OPEC member works to rebuild its oil industry after years of sanctions and war following the 2003 invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/25/iraq-shell-idUSL5E7MP1LP20111125

Let's All Write A Letter to Shabbi-Claus ! :D

Hopefully They Quietly Passed the HCL Yesterday + There Won't be a Need for Questions Next Week! B)

unfortunatly your WRONG, the dollar is back by debt. oh and just so you know "the federal reserve " is not federal. it is a private entity.

Kurdistan: Agreement with the central government on crude 24/11/2011 Confirmed the conclusion of understanding on oil and gas law Baghdad morning Minister of Natural Resources in the Kurdistan regional government drastically to reach an agreement with the central government in Baghdad over oil and gas contracts and the size of revenues from exports, while the price of gas has seen a rise in Arbil was pretty weak since the beginning of this week. The news agency quoted the "Nina" for Hawrami as saying in a press statement yesterday, "it was agreed between Baghdad and Erbil to increase the rate of export of the province of oil during the next year to 175 thousand barrels per day," saying the two sides agreed to send a draft law of oil and gas to the Parliament end of the year this. According to Hawrami, the central government approved the Shell contract for the collection of associated gas worth $ 17 billion, which will be formally signed on Sunday. and is a current controversy between Arbil and Baghdad on a deal Kurdistan with Exxon Mobil, which led to a threat the Oil Ministry to include the company on its blacklist, and prevent them from working in Iraq. In the meantime, saw the price of gas cylinder liquid province of Arbil, a rise is a natural since the beginning of this week to up to twice the official price set him six thousand dinars. attributed the Director of the bottling plant bottles of liquid gas in Arbil, Bakhtiar Abdullah God Bashdra rise to "lack of production of the plant due to stop federal authorities in Baghdad to send shipments of liquefied gas loaded in the tanks, especially to the Kurdistan region," he said. He guessed Bashdra "low price bottles of liquid gas in the next week, if there's supplies needed it." He pointed out that "the gas bottles to Ataatmta appropriate safety specifications http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.mof.gov.iq/ar/%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&u=http://www.alsabaah.com/ArticleShow.aspx%3FID%3D17458&usg=ALkJrhhuts7_738MpGpTHp5ENgr3diiG-w

Articles no different than our media spewing their spin on things. Sometimes you just have to have faith. Go RV

I have gotten so fed up with these guru's. They upset me to no end and I am just taking this time to vent a little bit. They come up with all of this INTEL and it proves false EVERY time. Consider this: if you were a high ranking government official with a top secret clearance whereby you swore to retain knowledge even to the grave, why would you risk you life, career, and the livelihood of your family by continually disclosing top secret data to people who are going to run and post everything you tell them on the Internet?! I MEAN LIKE REALLY?! and yet these Goo-Roo's continually pump the community with all of this rumtel that continually proves false. Every drop dead date has come and gone but they never own up to their prognostication. Nope, it is always this plausible deniability spelled out in the typical response, "i am only giving you what they gave me.....this thing should have happened by now; no idea what is holding it up." WELL I HAVE AN IDEA WHAT IS HOLDING IT UP AND IT HAS BEEN SPELLED OUT NUMEROUS TIMES BY SHABIBI! The RV will not happen until the troops are completely withdrawn from Iraq. They have continually told us that after the troop withdrawal there will be a time of peace and prosperity. They have told us that a defense ministry will NOT be resolved until after the withdrawal. It has been spelled out so plainly. The troop withdrawal is the trigger and yet these Goo-Roo's point to everything from bank screens to swift code foul ups to green eggs and hams; everything but what they told us is the trigger. I thank God I got delivered from their pumping madness. It bothers me so much because they injure people by creating anxiety. If it wasn't for these pumpers, people would be more patient and watch the news and watch the politics and watch the money. People would be more conservative and more at peace while they watch this thing slow cook in a conventional oven. These pumpers sell people microwave ovens and get people so stirred up that they can't sleep at night. It is wrong on every level. The RV IS COMING and it is coming SOON. We know this simply by watching the flood of information coming out of Iraq with the amount of radical change taking place in their international relationships. We don't need a date! We just need to rest in God's peace and know that in due time "we shall reap if we don't faint." That other mess is not good for the heart neither is it good for maintaining a sound mind. "Be anxious for nothing" the Bible tells us and for good reason. Don't let these pumpers toy with your emotions. Be patient and know that this thing is coming soon. Iraq will rise again as one of the strongest mid-east nations. The support they have gathered from the International Community has been immense. Now even Kuwait, a long standing final opposition to Iraq chapter 7 liberation, is now entering into trade agreement with Iraq. The writing is on the wall. If you find yourself becoming agitated and anxious because of what the Goo-Roo's are planting in your heart, CUT THEM OFF. They are offensive to you and the good Lord told us, "If your right hand offends you, cut it off." That is the only way to deal with that addictive garbage. Take a hiatus from it and replace it by hanging out in places where they discuss sound news not rum-tel. Be blessed my friends. This post was written in sincere care for those caught up in a web of confusion. And we know that "God is not the author of confusion." Avoid that mess for your own edification.

Passed on to me from a friend: The Birth Certificate This just will not go away……And for good reasons,,,, “Very Interesting Bit Of Detective Work” ... 1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time? 2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya, East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". 3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978? Resources: http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx POST-COLONIAL HISTORY (from Wikipedia): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya And Fox, CNN and the rest of the state run media continue to ignore this .....See More— in Nairobi, Kenya.

Thursday, November 24, 2011 Saturday ~ Iraqi Parliament ~ House of Representatives to raise its next Saturday ... November 24, 2011 House of Representatives to raise its next Saturday Lifting of the House of Representatives hearing on Thursday to Saturday next after the vote on a number of draft laws. A source from within the parliament, the House raised its regular day that Astanfea on Saturday after he read and voted on a number of draft laws. The House of Representatives held its third ordinary of the second legislative term of the year the second legislative and read where a number of draft laws, including the vote on the continuing work of the High Criminal Court for the courts of the former regime and vote on the draft Law on the Ministry of Commerce and the Ministry of Industry submitted by the Committee of Economy and Investment parliamentary and other of bills. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://ar.radionawa.com/(X(1)A(q7XFnSAyzAEkAAAAOGU2NjZiOTMtMWRlNi00NzY1LWJjOTgtYzc5YzExODhkNjhhQRRdRU6Ug9zbE-lbVpOoteOW5JA1))/Detail.aspx%3Fid%3D3087%26Link

guys i know this for Fact they MUST adjust the exchange rate according to their 2012 budget its coming dont worry about it we are close they cannot do the same crap they did laast year to try to manage a budget in the middle of the year they have to implement the new budget in the beginning of the year that means the exchange rate wil be adjusted accordingly.

UN to mediate talks between Iraq and Kuwait regarding the end of CH VII sanctions November 24th, 2011 05:01 pm · After the announcement of the United Nations for its willingness to mediate in the reconstruction of relations between Iraq and Kuwait to normal, and directed the first item under penalty of seven different views of the political blocs by the success of international efforts to resolve the issue. While it has ruled the Iraqi List, in response the Kuwaiti side to the international calls as a result of spasm of relations and tense with Iraq, a student coalition Kurdish blocs to obtain positive signals from the other side before you start any talks, called upon the Iraqi bloc white to the U.S. administration to intervene to get Iraq out of the item in question through the exploitation of its influence within the Security Council. The Representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations in Iraq, Martin Kobler announced at a press conference in Najaf after meeting Sistani reference, the readiness of the United Nations to mediate in the reconstruction of relations between Iraq and Kuwait to normal. He says the head of the solution were part of the coalition, the Iraqi Ziad Tariq worldwide abolition in an interview with “Twilight News” that “the general situation between the Iraqi and Kuwaiti strained and tense, and there are many outstanding issues between the two sides, which will make the second more intransigent and determined to keep Iraq under Chapter VII “. Shows the worldwide abolition that “one of the outstanding issues between the two sides, is a question of building a port Mubarak of Kuwait, which until now did not know the House of Representatives impact on the Iraqi ports or not” asking “the Prime Minister to send a report of the Committee that went recently to Kuwait to the House of Representatives for their results. “ The technical committee composed of experts under the chairmanship of the advisers in the Office of the Prime Minister Thamer Ghadban ended her recent visit to Kuwait in August last, as discussed with Kuwaiti officials, the cause of building the port of Mubarak. The Prime Minister and his deputies met, last August, with the Technical Committee to discuss the report returned by the last of his visit to Kuwait to see the impact of construction of a port or not Mubarak on Iraqi ports. The Iraqi government formally asked the Kuwaiti counterpart to postpone construction of a port to be established Mubarak, Kuwait’s Boubyan Island, overlooking the waterway shared with Iraq, while making sure not to impact on the rights of Iraq in common water, in the last rejected that request him usually illegal. In turn, says MP from Kurdistan Alliance bloc Saman Fawzi in an interview with “Twilight News” that “it is essential that there are positive signals from the Kuwaiti side before starting talks with him to get Iraq out from under Chapter VII.” Fawzi and adds that “the talks under way between the two sides in this regard but it is difficult to predict the response of the Kuwaiti side with Iraq”, saying that “Kuwait in cooperation with the United Nations to reach a solution to this issue.” Iraqi officials have stepped up their efforts in recent years to persuade the Security Council to bring the Iraq under Chapter VII, confirming Iraq’s compliance with all United Nations resolutions, and that he no longer poses a threat to the security and stability in the region. For its part, says a spokeswoman for the Iraqi white high Nassif in the reported statement of “Twilight News” that “the United States to seek international level to remove Iraq from Chapter VII, and the abolition of the Security Council resolution No. 833 of 1993, which is the decision of compliance for Iraq,” Usually, “he said of their duties towards Iraq.” She says Nassif that “America could use its Security Council and the UN to help Iraq, as well as address it to France and Britain in this regard and relate the subject to invest these countries in Iraq,” emphasizing “the role of the Iraqi government to work to rally the international community for this purpose, particularly States which are linked with the interests of Iraq. “ Referred to Chapter VII consists of 13 articles, which is Resolution 678, passed in 1990 and the proposal to remove Iraq from Kuwait by force of the provisions of this chapter, Iraq is still under Tailth, because the survival of several issues pending such as the remains of Kuwaiti citizens and prisoners in Iraq and Kuwaiti property including the archives of the Amiri Diwan, the Crown Prince’s Court, and the issue of environmental awards and oil which do not relate only to the State of Kuwait and other Arab countries and companies still have some rights. The subject of Iraq under Chapter VII for more than two decades and to date, and comes from the Iraqi government efforts to get Iraq out of them and keep his money. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dnahrain%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dbh9%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&twu=1&u=http://www.shafaaq.com/sh2/reports-investegations/110-reports-and-investigations/35250-2011-11-24-07-35-55.html

Unfortunately, (in my view) you have just experienced the shortcomings of the 21st century with all its political correctness in tow. How pathetic! No traditions or family values seem to be acceptable. (Well, that depends, on which side of the fence you’re on and it seems to me that I’m on the wrong side of the fence according to them) This Land of the Free and home of the Brave seems to have been tossed in the back of the closet. Never, if they have their way, to be seen in the light of day again. Everyone needs to wake up before it’s all gone, or the values and traditions of so many will be just stories handed down in families. In spite of all that I hope you had a good Thanksgiving and will have a Merry Christmas. Sorry if I said something somebody doesn’t like, BUT I’m not political correct. I’m an AMERICAN citizen.

The Federal Reserve is not the big baddie everyone thinks. Yet it has acted that way from our perception, however consider theirs... They have taken control of countries, as many people accept, albeit with disgust. What needs to be realised is that it is countries and sovereign states that want to live under a substance backed system which created scarcity and a division between a wealthy elite and the rest of us. The FED sought to change this, and fiat currency is a major tool. The big problem with their actions to date however, is that they believe the ends justify the means (as well as individual greed clouding the matter). They believe they have to lie, and cheat, and steal, in order to create a better future for us all. The fact is, this better future can be arrived at without going through all the pain, and without the lies etc, if only they would instead raise everyone's understanding. In due course, countries will regain control likely temporarily, however all will soon realise that is not beneficial to most of us. So whilst the FED is acting badly imo, the way it is set up, the international infrastructure that the private establishments have set up across the globe are perfect to be used for our actual benefit. All that is needed is an adjustment in perspective by those in control of it, or their replacement.

Well, I do not believe that the US Dollar is backed by gold any longer and has not been for some time. I can't answer your question though? I believe confidence in the country and currency has something to do with it though. So the stronger Iraq gets in many areas such as government and commerce the better, is what I have an understanding of it's value. I look forward to reading what smarter people than I have to say though. r2

These people are sending emails to the GOI, CBI in Iraq, calling politicians, and emailing them, and all kinds of stupid things. If it does ever amount to any thing, which I am starting to doubt, I would bet 90% of the people will be broke in less than a year or two. JMO

In my opinion there are to many idiots of low IQ involved in this investment that are calling banks daily, and doing other stupid things that could bring this investment to nothing. By the time these nit wits in Iraq get around to an RV/RD/RI, the powers that be, may change the plan and everybody lose because of these nit wits making all these calls, and making false statements like these so-called guru's are making, and other dumb moves. In my opinion I think there are to many people involved in this investment for it to amount to anything in the long run. People just can't seem to keep their mouths shut about a good thing.

What if they issue a new bill with a value of 50,000 IQD ($43 USD) but marked as 50 dinars. Get Iraqis to use the 50 dinar notes, and draw in the lager notes. Then when they get most of the larger notes back into the coffers do a straight up RV everyone wins. Iraqis get greater purchase power with out making those in country loose money or become rich. Meanwhile those outside the country who helped Iraq by investing get the profits they were looking for. Then CBI slowly draws in Dinar from other countries for oil over time. They will be able to help the world economies, and reduce their money supply. Truth is no one knows, but this could be a possibility.

Some ot the people that should be stressed out are; 1. Parents with children fighting cancer at St. Judes Hospital; 2. Prisoners that are innocence and facing death or long prisons terms; 3. People losing their homes; 4. People that cannot feed their family; 5. People that are fighting their own life threatening health problems; 6. Parents that have a child that has died; 7. Our men at arms that are being shot at and buddies dying beside them; But in no way should a person that buys a currency should be mentally impaired or stress out. IMHO.

Just a clarification: The Islamic religious New Year is November 27th, Sunday. The fiscal new year is January 1 and fiscally, the Iraqis run on the calendar year.

OK, OWS supporters, here's what you need if you think we should "Eat the Rich". Link

HOPE THIS HELPS MANY HERE http://comparesilverprices.com/ Have a Great Holiday Bob

Sweet, thanks for not bashing You could have pushed me over with a feather when my Bro told me this. Not sure what it means or if its related to the RV but Im soooo tired of all the insane rumors and to have the lockdown confirmed was pretty exciting. Waiting with baited breath....

Personally , I'm running out of questions... We have got to be real close...

This is unbearably disheartening. I don't understand why management didn't tell their Muslim employee that it's a tradition here that we're not going to stop because you're here, you are free to work someplace else. We're not asking to put it in your new Mosque. We're putting it where we've been putting it for xxx years. Get over it or leave. I mean really. I'm offended that it's acceptable, even honorable, for them to come here and get offended. What is wrong with people? Tradition is tradition. I hate living in a time when the pendulum is swinging too far. First it was women having no rights, and slave ownership, and now we're swinging off the deep end the other way. I want the ten commandments in the courthouses. I want kids that want to pray in school to be allowed to do so. I want to see Christmas trees and Nativities everywhere I go from today till the middle of March. I'm offended every time I drive thru the countryside and see a Mosque. Can't we tear them all down because I'm OFFENDED?

You absolutely know nothing about wether its something or not....negative nelly

I am amazed at the amount of people out there that are still clueless about how our banking system works and believe the "federal reserve " is a govt agency...people need to WAKE THE HECK UP!!!!!! instead of reading the new label on the side of your favorite beer can, they need to be reading imporatnt things. and yes im refering to people like you joseroque.and then have the nads to post.... >>>>>Anything else that is said is just convoluted logic!<<<< you really need to spend a weekend at you computer and do alot of reading

Sorry you are misinformed. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are backed buy nothing and printed up out of thin air as the FED sees fit. We have not been on the gold standard since 1971: " The Bretton Woods System, enacted in 1946 created a system of fixed exchange rates that allowed governments to sell their gold to the United States treasury at the price of $35/ounce." "The Bretton Woods system ended on August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon ended trading of gold at the fixed price of $35/ounce. At that point for the first time in history, formal links between the major world currencies and real commodities were severed". The gold standard has not been used in any major economy since that time. "Almost every country, including the United States, is on a system of fiat money, which the glossary defines as "money that is intrinsically useless; is used only as a medium of exchange". In other words FRNs are backed by nothing. (Google "gold standard") This is one reason the economies of the world are in such deep trouble. The Federal Reserve is not a part of the United States Government but is privately owned with the director being appointed by the president. A really good history of the formation of the FED is the book "The Creature From Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin. That as well as the videos mentioned in other posts here will give the uninformed a good start on the road to reality. Anything else that is said is just convoluted logic!

1+1=RV Go RV

some weird stuff going on thats for damn sure.

I call it political grand standing. So now i see if business don't hire folks even though they are getting taxes breaks to hire people then if there was a republican in office it would be different. Congress is not for the people it is for each congressman's own agenda or party agenda. Vote everyone out and start over.

........That's only the beginning of the madness that will ensue upon the announcement of the RV, Joe.....There are many folks with loose screws, involved in this investment . They are calling banks 24/7, bugging the hell out of them. No wonder there are reports of banks that no longer want to sell IQD. Instead of just waiting for this event to come to fruition, many are obsessing and causing alot of trouble.

Lol! Man I am a go RV guy all the way.....its pretty damn clear they talkin about an .86 cent RV The one thing I dont see any comments on is how they keep referring to the 25k note being the highest value not w a worth of 23 bucks....why cause they are saying the 50 dinar note will have more value then there highest valued currency now. Look at this way....they do not have a 50k dinar note....they are simply stating that the 50 dinar not will have the same value as a 50k dinars does now. Pretty clear.... 50,000 dinars now (NOT NOTE) = $43 USD 50 dinar note will = $43 USD

Thanks everyone for all the possitive comments, we are all in this together, and looking for the same prize, Thank You!!

SUNDAY SUNDAY SOUNDS GOOD TO ME ?I don't know how the song goes but I do feel like SINGING.

Some body tell me im dreaming, i have been hearing about the HLC and the Erbal agreement for a yr now, somebody smack me and wake me up, it cant be so.

HERE IS THE ANSWER !! I HAVE HEARD AND READ THIS MANY PLACES;;;; The news agency quoted the "Nina" for Hawrami as saying in a press statement yesterday, "it was agreed between Baghdad and Erbil to increase the rate of export of the province of oil during the next year to 175 thousand barrels per day," saying the two sides agreed to send a draft law of oil and gas to the Parliament end of the year this. THE ISLAMIC NEW YEAR IS NOVEMBER 27TH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ADAM WAS RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CMON BAY BAY!!!