md11fr8dawg Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 Can't remember if I have already posted this, if so sorry for the repeat. If not enjoy. Getting old is NOT for the faint of heart Climate Change Experts WRONG 0-41.pages 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Can anyone tell me what human activities occurred 14,000 years ago to make the glaciers recede from North America? What period of time was called the "Mini Ice Age" and in what year did New York have no summer? Give you the answer to the last one: 1816. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md11fr8dawg Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 About 13 minutes long but interesting and thought provoking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFNRoOmKg2w 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Girl Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Another interesting article. Bear in mind while reading that it is 15 years old It’s rather a long read and for some reason, I’m unable to copy and paste it but it is a worthy read. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Bama Girl. The funny face was for the article, not you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverCurious452 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) There is a thread upstarts called "Scientist Address Climate - by John Stossel..". Stossel claims the "climate alarmists" won't come to debate and that there is a long list of scary things reported over the years that turned out not to be as bad as claimed so why shouldn't we lump climate change into that list as well? This all reveals either gross ignorance about how science works or just ignoring the facts in favor of drama for the media. Scientific debate does not happen on talk shows but in peer reviewed journals. The issues in question are very complex and there is no way adequate coverage can be given in a few minutes even to a scientific audience let alone to layman (like us and John Stossel and his audience). If the climate deniers/skeptics are so sure they can refute the findings of the rest of the scientific community then why don't they publish? Because they can only make their case to an uninformed audience that's why. Certainly there have been announcements of scary findings over they years that turned out to be not so bad. But likewise those same findings were NOT reinforced and supported from different sources and using different methodologies over several decades like has been the case with climate change. When the first papers about global warming from carbon emissions came out in the the 70's being skeptical would be the proper response. We needed more data from more sources by more people and better models and faster computes etc. But over the next decades that is exactly what has been provided and the case only grows stronger. Many would like to think that finding some sound bite of someone (even with scientific credentials) claiming to refute climate change is good evidence for such a refutation. But its total BS. It's just propaganda bouncing around in the echo chamber. Again if such a person has such a powerful argument LET THEM PUBLISH. But they can't. All they can do is provide chum for those that want to accept their false claims. If you want to get to the truth on this (as best as we can figure it out) you have to look for a meta analysis of climate papers submitted to well respected peer reviewed journals and conferences and see what the stats are on the conclusions of such papers (this is the sort of thing that the UN climate reports are based on). Those results are clear that the overwhelming majority of climate papers agree the earth is warming, that such warming is going to make life far more difficult (and expensive if we continue on the path we are on now) and that humans are the cause. Also that this system has a very long lead time making urgent action imperative. Edited January 2, 2020 by Markinsa Merged Topics 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Markinsa Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 "It is very easy to fool the people but difficult to convince them that they HAVE been fooled!" Mark Twain. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 I’m semi curious why this was posted in the lopster tank, and also curious to hear responses to the video posted above. It seems pretty legitimate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Adam Montana said: I’m semi curious why this was posted in the lopster tank, and also curious to hear responses to the video posted above. It seems pretty legitimate. Ever Curious is a lopster, he reacts to post in other sections by posting in here. I just merged the topics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 12/13/2019 at 10:29 PM, bigwave said: The following devise was meant to blow smoke up a persons anus and into the rectum - to cure what ales you: You know - To blow smoke up your azz> Get it? It's some dry Shabibilicious humor. How did I do?LOL Hahahaha....nailed it, bigwave. Interesting that you would have one of those...and seem to know how to use it. GO RV, then BV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinBadge Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 If you do a little research you will see that back in the 10th century things were warm and Europe was able to grow an abundance of food throughout the year. Then around the 13th century things started cooling off and the summers were so short that they couldn’t grow enough corn to support the European population. Somewhere around the 16th century things started equal out again. Find the globalist propaganda from the 70s, they were telling us that by 2020 the world would be of barren desert population will be out of control and the ice caps be gone. That’s why they keep reinventing the propaganda. Every couple of decades none of their claims comes true so they have to modify themselves. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Girl Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 11 hours ago, nstoolman1 said: Bama Girl. The funny face was for the article, not you. Thanks for the clarification. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverCurious452 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 I could not find a way to PM a member so I'll resort to starting a thread (please let me know if there is such a way). On the one hand, thank you for posting my response to the climate change thread (to bad that the lopster designation doesn't just put some forums off limits rather than allowing posting in only one). On the other hand, merging the threads means that I can not make any follow on responses. On the other other hand, I post that real science takes place in peer reviewed journals not on talk shows and your response is to post a video of a gentleman with valid sounding credentials claiming global warming is all wildly overstated on a FOX talk show. HIs arguments SOUND scientific but are they? I don't have the expertise to know and neither does the FOX commentator. But, if he is so certain and his refutation is so simple why is he on FOX instead of publishing his work in reputable journals where the reviewers and readers DO have the needed expertise? It indeed IS hard to convince people that they have been and are being fooled (there is no better example of that than the RV myth). 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Markinsa said: Ever Curious is a lopster, he reacts to post in other sections by posting in here. I just merged the topics. ah, that makes sense. I was viewing on my phone and didn’t see all the details 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Australia fires: tens of thousands stranded while attempting to flee Visitors who were told to evacuate a vast area along the NSW south coast before even worse fire conditions return stuck for hours in gridlocked traffic Ben Smee and Luke Henriques-Gomes Thu 2 Jan 2020 11.43 GMT 4 vids https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/02/australia-bushfires-tens-of-thousands-stranded-while-attempting-to-flee Australia bushfires: PM's climate stance criticised as thousands flee blazes Scott Morrison’s government under pressure as fires feared to have killed 17 people Ben Smee , Calla Wahlquist Helen Davidson in Sydney and Jon Henley Wed 1 Jan 2020 19.04 GMT Vid https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/01/australia-bushfires-defence-forces-sent-to-help-battle-huge-blazes Edited January 2, 2020 by umbertino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Sounds like a good one for Adam and Jaime to test out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 It’s pretty easy to see that glaciers are melting. If it’s caused by man there is no stopping this freight train without a global pandemic . Better learn to adapt or die . Simple as that . I Live near LAX and as a kid remember many super dense foggy nights .We don’t see those foggy nights very often anymore. What’s changed? Planes have become much cleaner and less particulates for moisture to cling to to create the fog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, SocalDinar said: It’s pretty easy to see that glaciers are melting. If it’s caused by man there is no stopping this freight train without a global pandemic . Better learn to adapt or die . Simple as that . I Live near LAX and as a kid remember many super dense foggy nights .We don’t see those foggy nights very often anymore. What’s changed? Planes have become much cleaner and less particulates for moisture to cling to to create the fog Thanks for your no-nonsense testimonial, Socal...It's appreciated Living near LAX must be tough, btw...... Edited January 3, 2020 by umbertino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 12/3/2019 at 6:04 PM, md11fr8dawg said: Umbertino, PLEEEEZE!! Don't be that gullible. He fact checked it with "The Guardian"...... and we all know how respected they are - LOL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 "Why think positive about anything when it's so much easier to be negative" - so say's the Eeyore's of the world.....and sadly their voices are being more heard worldwide by those that love negativity & to find blame in others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, umbertino said: Thanks for your no-nonsense testimonial, Socal...It's appreciated Living near LAX must be tough, btw...... The toughest part is that any relatives flying out always need a parking spot and a ride LOL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 hours ago, SocalDinar said: The toughest part is that any relatives flying out always need a parking spot and a ride LOL. This is easy to understand....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:12 PM, SocalDinar said: The toughest part is that any relatives flying out always need a parking spot and a ride LOL. I heard the 5 was a nice place to park last week 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 There is nothing "nice" about parking on the 5, 91, 405,110,55,22 or the 57 freeways. . You just get stuck with a lot of people who don't know how to drive. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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