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Trump vs Democrats, National Emergency At The Mexican Border

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SOURCE: TimCast

 

 

Pay special attention to the graphic showing the total annual budget versus the $5 Billion Trump is requesting for the wall...makes the arguments by the LEFT pretty insignificant.

 

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CNN's Chris Coumo Shuts Down Don Lemon In Debate Over Border Security | DronetekPolitics

 

 

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Let's be honest here......Trump's real "National Emergency" is his need to save face and satisfy his base, Hannity and Coulter included.  When he finally realizes that they are forcing his hand and he's no longer in control, he'll be pissed.  

 

And the Dems "National Emergency" is the need to thwart anything Trump wants, out of spite or retribution for his acerbic rhetoric that most of them have been on the receiving end of......as it seems most of them have not read The Art of the Deal.

 

Meantime....hundreds of thousands of Americans are furloughed and held hostage in the Trump shutdown.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV  

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How about the hundreds of thousands that a violently lost their lives because of open borders. Rape, murder,  DUI,  illicit drugs ,  all brought by the hands of illegal aliens. Where's your sympathy for them? Or do you really consider that fake news?

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40 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

How about the hundreds of thousands that a violently lost their lives because of open borders. Rape, murder,  DUI,  illicit drugs ,  all brought by the hands of illegal aliens. Where's your sympathy for them? Or do you really consider that fake news?

 

I have sympathy for all victims......With respect to open borders, you're conflating barriers other than concrete walls as open borders.  Barriers other than concrete walls that are being maintained, repaired, upgraded or replaced daily.  

 

GO RV, then BV

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29 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I have sympathy for all victims......With respect to open borders, you're conflating barriers other than concrete walls as open borders.  Barriers other than concrete walls that are being maintained, repaired, upgraded or replaced daily.  

 

GO RV, then BV

OMG!

Now you're just talking semantics, President Trump has repeatedly said whatever you wish to call it, a fence, a barrier, a concrete wall, or a steel wall.

It all comes down to one thing, complete border security.

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***///

 

The big POO kommies (party of obstruction) are condoning the rapes,  murders, drug smuggling,

importation of disease, deaths of innocent children and much more by taking the side of the ILLEGAL aliens

over the American People.

 

They keep referring to the PARTIAL shutdown as a full-blown crisis, yet NOT what's happening at the border?

Shut-down opportunists.  <_<

They want and NEED any kind of shutdown in order to weaponize it & blow it out of proportion as they've got

nothing else to add to their FALSE narrative on Trump.

 

Trump needs to stand firm...

We all know the kommies can't be trusted ---

Every time the other side gives an inch, they LIE and renege on the "deal".

 

THEY are "immoral".

They down play & disrespect the horror & pain of the tragic victims of the illegal aliens they opt to protect over US.

 

Trump's administration has made many concessions to meet them more than 1/2 way --

And all they've offered is ONE Dollar.

 

That's the POO Party, folks....  LIE - DENY - DEFLECT.

 

Kirstjen Nielsen - US Dept. of Homeland Security will be on Hannity tonight @ 9 p.m est...

You want the TRUTH..? 

Hear it directly from her... she gets it from our Law Enforcement & Border Security troops DIRECTLY.

So don't believe the LYING kommies who are screeching & squawking that it's all lies & there is "no crisis".

 

Happy Law Enforcement Appreciation Day to all those serving to keep US safe.

If the kommies had their way, ya'll would be out of a job.

That won't happen -- not on our watch.  :salute:

 

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2 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

OMG!

Now you're just talking semantics, President Trump has repeatedly said whatever you wish to call it, a fence, a barrier, a concrete wall, or a steel wall.

It all comes down to one thing, complete border security.

 

OMG!  ;)

Semantics you say?....okay, then "Complete Border Security" that Trump promised Mexico would pay for.....and don't bother going down that new trade deal argument, you and I are both smart enough to know that's not how money is allocated.  This is the U.S. government, not Trump's family business where he can take billions out of petty cash. 

 

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A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

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By Chris Kahn
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ReutersJanuary 8, 2019
 
 
Yahoo News Video
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By Chris Kahn

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A growing proportion of Americans blame President Donald Trump for a partial government shutdown that will cut off paychecks to federal workers this week, though Republicans mostly support his refusal to approve a budget without taxpayer dollars for the U.S.-Mexico border wall, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

 

The national opinion poll, which ran from Jan. 1 to Jan. 7, found that 51 percent of adults believe Trump “deserves most of the blame” for the shutdown, which entered its 18th day on Tuesday. That is up 4 percentage points from a similar poll that ran from Dec. 21 to 25.

Another 32 percent blame congressional Democrats for the shutdown and 7 percent blame congressional Republicans, according to the poll. Those percentages are mostly unchanged from the previous poll.

 

Trump has promised to keep the government partially closed until Congress approves funding for an expanded barrier along the border.

Illegal border crossings into the United States have declined dramatically in recent years, yet Trump insists a wall is still necessary to stem a “humanitarian and national security crisis” in the region.

The president has asked Congress for nearly $6 billion for the wall and was expected to make his case directly to the public on Tuesday night in a nationally televised address.

Democratic leaders in Congress have refused to approve funding for additional border fencing, saying that it is an ineffective way to secure the border.

Public support for a border wall has shifted considerably over the past few years as it became a centerpiece of the Trump agenda. The poll found that 41 percent of the public supports building additional border fencing, down 12 points from a similar poll that ran in the first week of 2015, as opposition doubled among Democrats.

It also found that only 35 percent of adults in the United States support a congressional spending bill that includes funding for the wall, and 25 percent support Trump’s decision to keep the government closed until Congress approves funding for the wall.

Republicans, however, strongly support Trump’s pursuit of an expanded border wall. They have consistently ranked immigration as their top concern for the country. Seventy-seven percent of Republicans said in the most recent poll that they want additional border fencing, and 54 percent said they support Trump shutting down the government until Congress approves funding for the wall.

The government shutdown has affected a broad swatch of the federal government already, including national parks, airline security screening, housing and food aid, and the release of economic data. About 800,000 federal workers have been furloughed or are working without pay, and many will miss paychecks for the first time on Friday.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 2,203 adults, including 722 Republicans and 867 Democrats. The poll has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of 2 percentage points.

(Reporting by Chris Kahn; editing by Jonathan Oatis)

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/growing-number-americans-blame-trump-shutdown-reuters-ipsos-194958929--business.html

 

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17 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

complete border security

 

No such  thing... It's like the war on drugs... A big waste of tax dollars... Drugs keep coming because Americans want them. Just like illegals, they keep coming because people keep hiring them.. How about just giving us our money back? I'll protect my border. JMHO

 

B/A

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2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

 

You know polls are fake... Unless we agree with them... Just like Mad Dog, one of the greatest generals and patriots until he wasn't...

 

B/A

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23 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

A growing number of Americans blame Trump for shutdown: Reuters-Ipsos poll

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By Chris Kahn
,
ReutersJanuary 8, 2019
 
 
Yahoo News Video
giraffe-251561-1546998890315.jpg
 

By Chris Kahn

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A growing proportion of Americans blame President Donald Trump for a partial government shutdown that will cut off paychecks to federal workers this week, though Republicans mostly support system" rel="">support his refusal to approve a budget without taxpayer dollars for the U.S.-Mexico border wall, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

 

The national opinion poll, which ran from Jan. 1 to Jan. 7, found that 51 percent of adults believe Trump “deserves most of the blame” for the shutdown, which entered its 18th day on Tuesday. That is up 4 percentage points from a similar poll that ran from Dec. 21 to 25.

Another 32 percent blame congressional Democrats for the shutdown and 7 percent blame congressional Republicans, according to the poll. Those percentages are mostly unchanged from the previous poll.

 

Trump has promised to keep the government partially closed until Congress approves funding for an expanded barrier along the border.

Illegal border crossings into the United States have declined dramatically in recent years, yet Trump insists a wall is still necessary to stem a “humanitarian and national security crisis” in the region.

The president has asked Congress for nearly $6 billion for the wall and was expected to make his case directly to the public on Tuesday night in a nationally televised address.

Democratic leaders in Congress have refused to approve funding for additional border fencing, saying that it is an ineffective way to secure the border.

Public support system" rel="">support for a border wall has shifted considerably over the past few years as it became a centerpiece of the Trump agenda. The poll found that 41 percent of the public supports building additional border fencing, down 12 points from a similar poll that ran in the first week of 2015, as opposition doubled among Democrats.

It also found that only 35 percent of adults in the United States support system" rel="">support a congressional spending bill that includes funding for the wall, and 25 percent support system" rel="">support Trump’s decision to keep the government closed until Congress approves funding for the wall.

Republicans, however, strongly support system" rel="">support Trump’s pursuit of an expanded border wall. They have consistently ranked immigration as their top concern for the country. Seventy-seven percent of Republicans said in the most recent poll that they want additional border fencing, and 54 percent said they support system" rel="">support Trump shutting down the government until Congress approves funding for the wall.

The government shutdown has affected a broad swatch of the federal government already, including national parks, airline security screening, housing and food aid, and the release of economic data. About 800,000 federal workers have been furloughed or are working without pay, and many will miss paychecks for the first time on Friday.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 2,203 adults, including 722 Republicans and 867 Democrats. The poll has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of 2 percentage points.

(Reporting by Chris Kahn; editing by Jonathan Oatis)

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/growing-number-americans-blame-trump-shutdown-reuters-ipsos-194958929--business.html

 

GO RV, then BV

 

What I read here is 51% or so lay more blame on Trump for the shutdown......to me that's a low number that tells a story....with 90% of the US MSM leaning left and spewing story's 24/7 on why this is all Trump's fault why isn't the number higher? Perhaps people really do get it!.....of course I don't have much faith in polls...........CL

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30 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

No such  thing... It's like the war on drugs... A big waste of tax dollars... Drugs keep coming because Americans want them. Just like illegals, they keep coming because people keep hiring them.. How about just giving us our money back? I'll protect my border. JMHO

 

B/A

While I agree that drugs will just keep coming, along with illegal immigrants,  sex trafficking and other issues, even when/ if the wall is built it doesn"t mean you stop trying.  By any means necessary you should always try to make it harder for the bad things to get in while making it easier for you to keep them out. Kind of like cockroaches, ants and other bugs in your home.  They always get in but we still call the exterminator. JMO

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45 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

No such  thing... It's like the war on drugs... A big waste of tax dollars... Drugs keep coming because Americans want them. Just like illegals, they keep coming because people keep hiring them.. How about just giving us our money back? I'll protect my border. JMHO

 

B/A

 

All problems have solutions....take this war on drugs....how bout a turn in your dealer bounty......Rehab until you get clean.....paid for house....job....and 50 grand....dealers that are guilty....public execution.....electrocution.....

 

Something similar for the coyotes moving illegal immigrants.......

 

Problem solved?        CL

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1 hour ago, coorslite21 said:

 

All problems have solutions....take this war on drugs....how bout a turn in your dealer bounty......Rehab until you get clean.....paid for house....job....and 50 grand....dealers that are guilty....public execution.....electrocution.....

 

Something similar for the coyotes moving illegal immigrants.......

 

Problem solved?        CL

 

That's how they do it in Indonesia or Malaysia or one of those Southeast Asian places.......so they execute an innocent Australian grandmother from time to time....small price to pay for a drug free environment.  :blink:  

 

GO RV, then BV

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1 hour ago, coorslite21 said:

 

All problems have solutions....take this war on drugs....how bout a turn in your dealer bounty......Rehab until you get clean.....paid for house....job....and 50 grand....dealers that are guilty....public execution.....electrocution.....

 

Something similar for the coyotes moving illegal immigrants.......

 

Problem solved?        CL

 

You will never stop them while there is a market for their product... So we need to round up all Americans who are breaking the law and lock them up. Of course I'm joking, but in reality, demand creates the market. Remember prohibition? It didn't really work. All prohibition did was create the mafia... All the war on drubs has succeeded in doing is create all the gangs... It is like guns. Do you think if all guns were outlawed there wouldn't be guns in our society? All this political spending is not working and anyone who thinks building a wall will end the public's taste for drugs or cheap labor is only kidding themselves.

 

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2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

That's how they do it in Indonesia or Malaysia or one of those Southeast Asian places.......so they execute an innocent Australian grandmother from time to time....small price to pay for a drug free environment.  :blink:  

 

GO RV, then BV

Perhaps the courts in America are more thorough......than those in Malaysia, Indonesia and some of SE Asia.....of course Singapore is one of the safest places in the world.....and they still practice caining....!

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https://borderfacts.com

 

“It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it.” - PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON -

 

“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. And I do think that you have to control your borders.”

- SECRETARY Hillarious CLINTON -

 

“When we use phrases like 'undocumented workers,' we convey a message to the American people that their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration, which the American people overwhelmingly oppose. If you don't think it's illegal, you are not going to say it. I think it is illegal and wrong, and we have to change it.” - SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER -

 

“Real reform means strong border security, and we can build on the progress my administration has already made -- putting more boots on the Southern border than at any time in our history and reducing illegal crossings to their lowest levels in 40 years.” - PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA -

 

What changed other than Trump stands for it?

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Good one.

 

in case anyone hasn’t noticed, President Trump has the balls to do all the things our DC Swamp Politicians are too afraid to tackle or unwilling to tackle.  

 

Here is a small list of things he’s tried to accomplish with very little help and under constant threat of impeachment from a hysterical treasonous Democratic Party.

 

1. Border Security

2. Refusing to be Blackmailed by North Korea

3. Make Nato pay its full amount

4. New NAFTA

5. Challenging China’s currency manipulation and outright theft of our intellectual Properties

6. A new Tax Law to make our companies competitive 

7. Standing up to the Globalists and Declaring his USA first policy

8. Tried to get rid of Obamacare 

 

i could go on but you get get the idea.  This President is like Michael Corleone in The Godfather, he’s settling a lot of the USA’s accounts with nations that have been ripping us off for decades. His style, his language, his morals, his bombastic approach, his tweets, are all unsettling but he could care less. He’s in office to Drain the Swamp and Make America Great Again, Katy bar the door.  If you don’t like him vote him out in 2 years.  

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On 1/9/2019 at 9:41 AM, Shabibilicious said:

 

OMG!  ;)

Semantics you say?....okay, then "Complete Border Security" that Trump promised Mexico would pay for.....and don't bother going down that new trade deal argument, you and I are both smart enough to know that's not how money is allocated.  This is the U.S. government, not Trump's family business where he can take billions out of petty cash. 

 

GO RV, then BV

You show a lot of sorrow for foreigners and Malaysian grandmothers, but you seemingly only give lip service to murdered Americans.

Why is that you don't truly care about this guy? He'd still be alive today were in not for an illegal alien

 

 

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On 1/9/2019 at 5:44 AM, Shabibilicious said:

Let's be honest here......Trump's real "National Emergency" is his need to save face and satisfy his base, Hannity and Coulter included.  When he finally realizes that they are forcing his hand and he's no longer in control, he'll be pissed.  

 

And the Dems "National Emergency" is the need to thwart anything Trump wants, out of spite or retribution for his acerbic rhetoric that most of them have been on the receiving end of......as it seems most of them have not read The Art of the Deal.

 

Meantime....hundreds of thousands of Americans are furloughed and held hostage in the Trump shutdown.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV  

My little sister got shot in the head dead by one someone slipping across the border.

 

He needed a "tear drop."

 

The cops got him several weeks later.

 

The Judge gave him 7 years  saying :"The defendant did not know her when he shot her."

 

You have no idea at all until you live it.

 

WE the People Need a wall.

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PREACH IT BIG MAMA 

 

 

Just now, bigwave said:

My little sister got shot in the head dead by one someone slipping across the border.

 

He needed a "tear drop."

 

The cops got him several weeks later.

 

The Judge gave him 7 years  saying :"The defendant did not know her when he shot her."

 

You have no idea at all until you live it.

 

WE the People Need a wall.

I'm truly sorry for your loss and will keep you in my prayers. :praying:

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