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Kurds claim win in latest oil row

U.S. government not involved, State Department says.

By Daniel J. Graeber | Aug. 27, 2014 at 10:11 AM

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ERBIL, Iraq, Aug. 27 (UPI) -- A Texas court ruling to dismiss an order to seize Kurdish oil parked off the U.S. coast should give potential buyers confidence, the Kurdish government said.

A Texas judge had ordered U.S. Marshals to seize Kurdish oil loaded onto the United Kalavrvta tanker, parked off the coast of Galveston, Texas, in international waters. The semiautonomous Kurdish government and the federal government in Baghdad filed competing claims in Texas, though the court eventually sided with the Kurdish claims that its oil could reach U.S. ports.

"The ruling of the Texas court should give confidence to buyers of Kurdistan crude oil in the United States and elsewhere," Kurdish Minister of Natural Resources Ashti Hawrami said in a statement Tuesday.

The minister said all Kurdish crude oil exports and sales are legal according to the terms spelled out in the Iraqi constitution, a claim countered by Baghdad.

The U.S. government in the past has sided with the Iraqi government, which says it has the sole authority over exports. Speaking to reporters Tuesday, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the issue was a commercial matter.

"The United States government is not involved," she said.

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This is huge in that it will place more pressure on Bagdad to come to the table and engage in, and then actually implement, real negotiated settlements regarding the percentages of the Kurds share of the national oil proceeds. As far as I can see this is the major sticking point between the Kurds and Federal GOI. Not the only sticky point, just the major One. Next would be to sit an actual GOI, with all Presidential and Ministerial positions filled. Reforms in place to make sure everyone shows up to do their job, least they don't get paid a single dinar till they do show up and work. Pass the HCL then RV this thing via the CBI, or the other way around, whatever trips your fancy.

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However, in a ruling Monday, U.S. District Judge Gray Miller granted a motion from the Kurdistan Regional Government to vacate the order.

"Kurdistan's unauthorized export of oil over land—and later overseas—may violate Iraqi law, but it doesn't violate U.S. maritime law," the Judge said in his ruling.

The judge gave Baghdad 10 days to amend its complaint, leaving the federal government with an avenue to potentially keep pressing its case.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/u-s-court-scraps-order-to-seize-kurdish-oil-cargo-in-gulf-of-mexico-1409039195?mobile=y

It has nothing to do with Iraq

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However, in a ruling Monday, U.S. District Judge Gray Miller granted a motion from the Kurdistan Regional Government to vacate the order.

"Kurdistan's unauthorized export of oil over land—and later overseas—may violate Iraqi law, but it doesn't violate U.S. maritime law," the Judge said in his ruling.

The judge gave Baghdad 10 days to amend its complaint, leaving the federal government with an avenue to potentially keep pressing its case.

http://m.us.wsj.com/...039195?mobile=y

He made no ruling concerning Iraq oil laws only us maritime laws

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This is huge in that it will place more pressure on Bagdad to come to the table and engage in, and then actually implement, real negotiated settlements regarding the percentages of the Kurds share of the national oil proceeds. As far as I can see this is the major sticking point between the Kurds and Federal GOI. Not the only sticky point, just the major One. Next would be to sit an actual GOI, with all Presidential and Ministerial positions filled. Reforms in place to make sure everyone shows up to do their job, least they don't get paid a single dinar till they do show up and work. Pass the HCL then RV this thing via the CBI, or the other way around, whatever trips your fancy.

 

 

Well it can also stall the talks to; But at the same time they are telling them that if you don;t play the rules set forth by their own government, than we won't.

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Kurdish leaders in the north released cautious statements about Abadi. They’re glad the Shiite parties chose someone other than Maliki to lead the country, but they’re concerned that Abadi won’t resolve perennial disputes between Baghdad and the Kurdish capital of Irbil over sharing revenue from oil sales.

Abadi reportedly has been maintaining Maliki’s arguments in negotiations with Kurdish officials.

“According to the work we’ve done with him, he has to make some changes in himself to address the current situation in Iraq,” Kurdish lawmaker Renas Jano told BAS News, a Kurdish media outlet.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/13/236365/abadi-wins-praise-inside-and-outside.html#storylink=cpy

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How could a us maritime law ruling in the United States have anything to do with the Parlimentary govt of Iraq voting on whether or not the Kurds can sell oil without parliaments permission?

It's not a Maliki decision is a parliment decision

Abadi agrees with Maliki on this they are from the same clan

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I don't want to take sides in this, however this action will hit at the purse strings of Bagdad and they will either become a player or a spectator.

As Tony Barretta used to say, "You Got The Ball, Now Go Ahead And Mess Up".

Ya it's already hurting Iraq

The Kurds could be selling 100,000 barrels a day thru Baghdad

3 million barrels a month since the beginning of the year 24 million barrels could of been sold

Instead they sold 3 million barrels so Baghdad is taking it out on the Kurds

Out of their pockets

Right out of the budget

If all of Iraq has to suffer because of a rogue govt in Kurdistan they will pay not the rest of Iraq

That oil belongs to all the Iraqis it's not Kurdish oil it's Iraqi oil

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Kurds are the ONLY group in Iraq who has their eye on the ball!

 

The sell of oil dependent from the Baghdad - I think will force the Shiite's & Sunni's to wake up and get their act together! Greed drives all Middle Eastern countries and Iraq most of all. They will not stand by and be cut out of profits.

 

Go RV! :)

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Erbil announces it has become free to export oil to the United States

Source / Agencies

   

Posted       28/08/2014 08:43 AM

 

 

           

- The government of the Kurdistan region of Iraq, it has become a have complete freedom in the sale of oil within the United States of America in accordance with the laws in force there. Analysts said that Sevh before most of the ports and markets of the world.

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Welcomed the Regional Government of northern Iraq, the decision of the American court in South Texas, which was released for shipment of crude oil to the region, had decided earlier in detention.

According to a statement on the website of the government that "it was again rejected a request from the central government in Baghdad over the Texas court's decision, it is now possible for the Kurdistan region to sell oil freely in accordance with the applicable laws in the United States."

He drastically and the Minister of Natural Resources in the government of the province that "the decision of the American court, became a guarantor great for those who want to buy crude oil Kurdistan region, both in the United States or elsewhere."

He expressed the hope that the stop and the Iraqi Oil Ministry for attempts by order of usurping the rights of the region after this decision.

He added that "the oil in the region is extracted and exported and sold by the Kurdistan Regional Government are legal according to the Constitution and the laws of Iraq."

The court overturned the American on Monday detained a shipment is estimated at about one million barrels of crude oil Kurdish disputed between Arbil and Baghdad, in a move that could allow the extradition of the consignment at the port of Texas and end the crisis has been going on for nearly a month.

The Baghdad government has succeeded in earlier in persuading the authorities to eliminate American, issued a memorandum to confiscate the shipment of oil, and ordered the judge, "Nancy Johnson," book load and impounded until chapter in the conflict between Iraq and the Kurdistan Regional Government on the disposition of oil resources in areas under the control of Irbil. The KRG began months before the export of crude oil extracted from its territory to Turkey and sold abroad through a pipeline construction completed last December, apart from the federal government, what infuriated Baghdad, which has threatened to sue Erbil and the region's oil buyers to proceed against them legally.

The Iraqi Oil Ministry has filed a lawsuit with the court, Texas, demanded the confiscation of one million barrels of oil loaded on board the tanker United Kalavrivta, which docked just 60 miles from the Port of Galveston, Texas, on charges of "exported illegally and sold without obtaining the permission from the Iraqi Ministry of Oil. "

             

Ashti Hawrami: the decision of the American court, became a guarantor for those who want to buy oil region

           

The court ruled in favor of the central government to confiscate Iraqi oil source even achieve understanding between Baghdad and the regional government in northern Iraq.

The government announced the territory of northern Iraq, on August 5 th, they submitted a request to the court to cancel the decision mentioned above.

And announced that the Iraqi Oil Ministry, on 8 June that the losses of the Iraqi economy because of non-delivery of the territory of northern Iraq to its revenues amounted to 6 billion dollars, noting that what is marketed by some officials in the government of northern Iraq of justification and rationale for "illogical and unrealistic."

The government cut the Iraqi Kurdistan region's share of the public budget, amounting to 17 percent since about 7 months, forcing the region to begin pumping oil to the Turkish port of Ceyhan end of last year. And began to export since the end of last May to ease its financial crisis.

So far, 7 tankers shipping oil to world markets, but Adjat and obstacles in finding buyers, due to an uncertain Washington's position than those sales.

Erbil and trying hard to increase its oil exports has doubled pumping oil last week, after the development of the private Onboppea to reach about 200 thousand barrels per day.

Informed sources expect exports to rise to 220 thousand barrels per day within a week and then to 250 thousand barrels per day after that. "

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The Oil Ministry is preparing for the resumption of the rule of American canceled booking shipment of oil chest region

 
      Thursday   28   August   2014 | 15:27
 

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Texas federal court to cancel the booking shipment of oil and the court gave the Oil Ministry 10 days to re-submit a request for reservation

 
 
 
 

The Oil Ministry announced that it is currently preparing a new application for submission to the American court, for re-booking shipment of oil exported illegally from the Kurdistan Region.

The ministry said in a statement that the federal court in Texas had to cancel booking shipment of oil and that the court Omhiltha 10 days to re-submit the request for the book, on other grounds articulated by the court in its decision.

The ministry said in a statement that the court's decision is purely procedural, Texas, where a court ruled that federal jurisdiction is limited to the facts and that marine smuggling Iraqi oil though it may violate Iraqi law, it does not violate the American maritime law.

The statement pointed out that the return on the court's decision on the ground is limited to the release of the consignment which is at sea, so it was resorting to maritime law George, noting that this does not take away at all from any decision to book while up to the American mainland, where the Ministry has a wide choice to adopt a resolution without reservation procedural restrictions that require the occurrence of crime at sea.

The Iraqi Oil Ministry has filed a lawsuit with the court, Texas; demanded the confiscation of one million barrels of oil loaded aboard the tanker " United Kalavrvta "which docked just 60 miles from the Port of Galveston, Texas; charges of" exported illegally and sold without permission from the Iraqi Ministry of Oil. "

The court ruled in favor of the central government to confiscate Iraqi oil source even achieve understanding between Baghdad and the Kurdistan Regional Government.

The estimated volume of oil transported through the pipeline at about 100 thousand barrels per day.

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If the Kurds are actually getting paid for this oil and the US is going to continue allowing imports, then Iraq has very few options:

 

1. Send in military to try and stop them (won't happen).

2. Get their own act together and pass HCL 140 and Erbil.

3. accept their "cut" (+- 80%) after Kurdistan is reimbursed for monies that should have already been paid and is owed to them.

 

If I were running Kurdistan, I would put those extra earned funds into a reserve of some sort and deduct the 17% (or 20%) that will be owed from future total Iraqi oil sales

until such time as everyone gets onto the same page as to previous agreements that are as of yet to be realized.

 

Either way, if these oil shipments are allowed to continue by the US and other countries, it is a huge win for Kurdistan and a giant shove for Iraq to live up to its' agreements.

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How could a us maritime law ruling in the United States have anything to do with the Parlimentary govt of Iraq voting on whether or not the Kurds can sell oil without parliaments permission?

It's not a Maliki decision is a parliment decision

Abadi agrees with Maliki on this they are from the same clan

Kurds are the ONLY group in Iraq who has their eye on the ball!

 

The sell of oil dependent from the Baghdad - I think will force the Shiite's & Sunni's to wake up and get their act together! Greed drives all Middle Eastern countries and Iraq most of all. They will not stand by and be cut out of profits.

 

Go RV! :)

Dudes, the way this U.S. Maritime decision could/can change the federalists in the GOI is that it will show them that the Kurds can sell their oil on the world market. With this ability, the Kurds can wiggle free of the strangle hold that Bagdad has been placing on them financially over Maliki's two terms in office. Forcing the Federalists to rely instead on the Kurds statements that the "Constitutional Rule of Law" must be adhered to. Instead of sticking to their (Maliki's group) stinking thinking that ultimately may force The Kurds to break away from the country of Iraq. The Kurds only took 17% of said money anyway and placed the remainder in trust to be delivered to the GOI when they finally settle things.

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