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  1. Yup really !!! How lame a rino christian agnostic you are . You think because you throw out a thousand quotes of scripture , that that proves your faith and understanding in Christianity . Christianity being that which you admitted in this thread to not believing in. Leaving out the deity of the Godhead aka Holy Trinity , and all that is in heaven there is one source that knows more about Christianity than all Bibal Scholars on earth will ever know ; that source is satan. The jealous former heavenly angel of light . Of course since it, is a liar, you can , well ... others but you would be deceived if you believed any minor or major twist it suggests regarding Christianity. It is from the devils understanding , that it has birthed false Christian religions and doctrines over the last 2700 years. The very false doctrines, false teachings, false prophets , false miracles , the Holy Bible speaks of. There is hope for you still Pre, yes even up to the last second before you die to get to know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior , as it's written in the Bible . That is of not ok to wait till then, because what if you did instantly in a accident, never offering you the opportunity to turn your life over to Jesus ? To late, is to late . I wouldn't risk that . You can, but not me.
  2. You are asking a Non Christian , who has admitted to being a independent , what's ever that is , a agnostic if anything to understand Christianity . Ask Christians about Christianity. Pre is as much a Christian as a RINO is a Republican . He just loves arguing about something he admits to not believing in .
  3. You liar, liar you . Your quote above proves you made the statement in a indirect manner and then turned around and claim you never said the thing. Unless rules of grammar, sentence structure, leading to conclusions don't apply in your world. Yes you did not use the phrase ' go to hell' , the grammatic conclusion you built in your sentence structure concludes the same. Come on man, Joe Biden you ain't .
  4. You can go to hell Mister , that's you exercising your free will, not me. I knows whose I am, and where I will go when I die . Again, thanks for showing the DV world that view this thread you are a blind moronic authoritarian , and do not know what you believe in . Case in point , you say you do not believe in the Godhead , a cornerstone of the Christian faith . Then you say that hell is imaginary, despite the biblical quotes given you of how the bible describes hell and eternal life in it . There by invalidating the entirety of the Bible because if you cannot comprehend 1 piece of the bible then it must all be bunk. Your belief, not mine. This is the part I like as evidence that you are all over the place and possibly bipolar , by wishing me to go to your non-existent hell (your words not mine) , sometime after you have already arrived in a place that does not exist according to you. All so you can see the shock on my face upon my arrival. You either believe in hell or you don't Sir. You cannot have it both ways , unless you are a professional politician . Are you a professional politician ? At least when you are waiting in line to see if you get into heaven, and you hear Jesus say depart from Me I never knew you and then sending you to hell ; at least you won't be able to say that no one ever told you about these things. Man, I hope to see the look on your face when that happens; in non-gloating sort of way of course. Likely, I will be sad that you stayed in denial to the end . Oh well, I did my part.
  5. You can go to hell Mister , not me . I knows whose I am, and where I will go when I die . Again, thanks for showing the DV world that view this thread you are moronic, and do not know what you believe in . Case in point First, you say you do not believe in the Godhead , a cornerstone of the Christian faith . Then you say that hell is imaginary, despite the biblical quotes of how the bible describes hell and eternal life in it . There by invalidating the entirety of the Bible because if you cannot comprehend 1 piece of the bible then it must all be bunk. This is the part I like as evidence that you are all over the place and possibly bipolar , by wishing me to go to your non-existent hell (your words not mine) , sometime after you have already arrived, so you can see the shock on my face upon my arrival. You either believe in hell or you don't Sir. How can the likes of you
  6. Platinum VIP Posted August 13 (edited) (August 13, page 3 of this thread) Here is another literal quote from the Bible, Luke 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, of him[her] will the Son of Man be ashamed when He comes in His glory, and the Glory of the Father , and of the holy angels . I for the life of me cannot understand why you cannot comprehend the Godhead/Holy Trinity. Nor how, from your lack of understanding you feel it necessary to rewrite The Holy Bible and separate beings , you are not omnipotent my friend. As for your trying to twist God's word instead for learning how to understand God's word : 2 Timothy 4: 3-4 for the time will come when they will not endure sound Doctrine but wanting to have their ears tickled they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance with their own desires and turn away their ears from listening to the truth . Romans 16: 17-20 Now I urge you brother and keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching what you have learned, and turn away from them. For such men are slaves not of our Lord Jesus Christ, but of their own appetites, and by their smooth and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting young in Christ. For the report of your obedience [Or lack thereof] has reached to all [the Holy Trinity] therefore I am over you, but I want you to be wise in what is good, and what is innocent, and what is evil. And the God of Peace will soon Crush Satan under your [the believers] feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you. You should stop trying to change the bible, when it is here to change you and others who do not understand, or have questions . (August 13th, page 3 of this thread) Well thank you for the proof. Proof that you obviously are not a Christian at all . Since you just love referring to Exodus 33:20 I understand why you are so confused. A Christian understands and believes in the Trinity of God . God the Father , the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit , one being (God) manifested in 3 forms This verse in context is referring to God the Father ,in His Godly form when He is to be before anyone who has sinned. Even those who have sinned and been forgiven of their sin. Until the return of Jesus , establishing the new heaven on earth . Or the person is in heaven , note the phrase " at this time ." Oh yeah almost forgot use full quotes , from a bible and not just a little quip from a bumper sticker. Exo 33:20 And He said unto Moses, Thou canst not see my face at this time, lest mine anger be kindled against thee also, and I destroy thee, and thy people; for there shall no man among them see me at this time, and live, for they are exceeding sinful. This scripture is true in its entirety. Stop lying Pre . You belittle yourself when you do that . I answered your questions regarding Exodus 33:20, see them above from August 13th, page 3 of this thread . You just did not like my answers . You can never show me where I said God was evil , where , where did I ay that ? This quote of yours is just another weak sorry butt propagandist lie ; You(Kevin) believe God is evil BECAUSE you believe in a hell where he would torture people forever and ever. Dude, God is God, He dwells in heaven not hell , doh . His written word tells us about hell. I believe His written word, so yeah I believe hell exist . His written word, describes hell as a very not nice place. * Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. ( hmm, a couple of things in there that might describe you Pre.) But since we believers know that God, who has come to give life we know that it is Satan that comes like the smooth talking snake/thief, in the night to kill, steal and destroy. So satan can get his kicks watching you burn, breath in acrid air for eternity; by selling you a bunch of lies along the lines of the crud you be speaking here. Yet despite the number of times we broke our promises to God by sinning , since the fall from the Garden of Eden, Father God has desired to re-establish the type of intimate relationship with us, that Adam and Eve had before their fall from grace . To wit, Jesus the only Son of God, who simply was from the beginning, came down to earth from the right hand of God, to be beaten and tortured so severely, that it was hard to recognize Him by looking at Him . Jesus , suffered this so we do not have to pay the price for our sins , which is eternity in hell. Burning but never being consumed by the fire. Breathing in all that acidic air, if you can call it air. All that is asked is that you believe that Jesus is Lord and Savior, that He suffered on the cross, died , was buried , rode again on the 3rd day in the grave, and is seated at the right hand of the Father. If you don't want to believe, you won't be forced to believe. Don't blame God when you are not allowed to go into heaven , and are instead sent straight to hell for eternity .
  7. Sirs, I humbly ask what your sources are saying about the likely hood of an RV of the IQD , in light of the developments in Afghanistan ? I know Iraqi is not Afghanistan . But Iraq has multiple armed militias that can work with the GOI today and maybe not next week . All the while taking directions from Iran and Saudi Arabia . Are the Iraqis as inept soldiers as the Afghan Army was , without the US .
  8. You already asked that question . I already answered that question, numerous ways. To be succinct ; Asked and answered. I see you have devolved to IF questions now . Sadly, I hoped you would be better than that, yet I am nit surprised . I would never try to edify you by comparing God and His Godhead (Trinity is a term used to describe the Godhead . Applied by the Roman Catholic Church originally. Which is fine.) , with that of an egg , onion or whatever. Neither would I use another dead religion , or a false religion to draws comparisons. I understood each question you have asked , and their many iterations . Colossians 2:9 For in Him (Jesus) dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily, 10 and you are complete in Him , who is the head of all principality and power . Since Jesus IS God in bodily form, being part of the Godhead (Trinity), God manifested in 3 forms , He is talking about Himself . He became man to fulfill the prophesies regarding the Messiah , and to die on the cross to pay the price for the forgiveness of all sinners sins if only they would believe. God manifested in bodily form approach Him , see Him , relate to Him as He relates to them . Therefore His answer is correct. God is God whichever form He manifests in . Boom. I answered your little preschool question there Pre, even though I made you cry before since you asked that one and tried to uninvite me to the party . What are you gonna do now ? Is this where you thought I would become infuriated and start calling you names, because of your authoritarian lie that I and Markinsa consider God to be evil ? Never said it, never would say such a thing . Cannot show me where I said that. I suspect you simply have another example of you not comprehending the things of God . This would not be the case if you bothered to do the due diligence of reading 2 verses before, and after a verse you question. Afraid you will actually learn truth about my Lord Jesus Christ ? Which is just a starting point for new to Christ. Do you own a bible, perhaps a concordance as well. Those 2 items can help you to understand more. They would be more detailed answers , hope that prospect doesn't frighten you , because there would be more work to do on your part , researching and all . Being a Christian ain't a fast food thing .
  9. Nope I never asked myself that, because I know who's I Am . So much so that when He speaks to me when reading his word , I know that I can trust what He says . When He speaks to me that I know His voice. So much so that when the devil speaks the word of God , inorder to deceive , such as you do here, I know that it is not of God . The verses are real, it is your bovine interpretation of them that makes your supportive statement(s) heretical , and its YOUR conclusion(s) that I state that are wrong. In order to help you to correctly interpret, discern, the lessons intended by your "bible quotes" I suggested a tip that helps all new Christians that ask similar questions as your statements. Specifically to read 2 verses ahead of and 2 verses following the verse in question ; this answers most such questions for anyone but you. Why, because you do not really want to understand the Holy Bible . You think you must change the bible because you cannot comprehend it . What you are missing is that the bible is here to change you, not for you to change it. God knew there would be many like you , so He had Jesus speak in parables . Jesus's parable of the sower explains intellects, or rich men like you , who have to much to change in themselves, to follow and or understand the Word as it is written. Matthew 13: 10-23 is for you : and explains the thoughts of people like you , because God knew that after sin entered the world after Eve and Adam did what God told them not to do. That deceivers will attempt to separate some believers from God in the exact same manner, using the exact same techniques as you. 2 Corinthians 11:3 applies to you and the liked minded. @ Cor11:3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpents cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. Matthew 13: 10-23 10 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the [a]mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: ‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; 15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I [b]should heal them.’ 16 But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear; 17 for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. The Parable of the Sower Explained 18 “Therefore hear the parable of the sower: 19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. 20 But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. 22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. 23 But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”
  10. Jesus is Kurios. The New Testament Greek equivalent of the Old Testament Hebrew name Yahweh is Kurios. Used of God, Kurios carries the idea of a sovereign being who exercises absolute authority. The word is translated Lord in English translations of the Bible. The affirmation that “Jesus is Lord” (Kurios) in the New Testament constitutes a clear affirmation that Jesus is Yahweh. To an early Christian accustomed to reading the Old Testament, the word Lord, when used of Jesus, would point to His identification with the God of the Old Testament (Yahweh). Hence, the affirmation that “Jesus is Lord” (Kurios) in the New Testament constitutes a clear affirmation that Jesus is Yahweh, as is the case in passages like Romans 10:9, 1 Corinthians 12:3, and Philippians 2:5–11. Jesus is Elohim. Elohim is a Hebrew name that is used of God 2,570 times in the Old Testament. The name literally means “strong one,” and its plural ending (im in Hebrew) indicates fullness of power. Elohim is portrayed in the Old Testament as the powerful and sovereign governor of the universe, ruling over the affairs of humankind. Jesus is recognized as both Yahweh and Elohim in the prophecy in Isaiah 40:3: “Prepare the way of the Lord [Yahweh]; make straight in the desert a highway for our God [Elohim].” This verse was written in reference to John the Baptist preparing for the coming of Christ (as confirmed in John 1:23) and represents one of the strongest affirmations of Christ’s deity in the Old Testament. In Isaiah 9:6, we likewise read a prophecy of Christ with a singular variant (El) of Elohim: “And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God [El], Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” Jesus is Theos. The New Testament Greek word for God, Theos, is the corresponding parallel to the Old Testament Hebrew term Elohim. A well-known example of Christ being addressed as God (Theos) is found in the story of “doubting Thomas” in John 20. In this passage, Thomas witnesses the resurrected Christ and worshipfully responds: “My Lord and my God [Theos]” (John 20:28). Pre, a man that does not believe that Jesus is God as part of the Godhead aka Holy Trinity . You deny Jesus role in Christianity. Jesus is Theos. The New Testament Greek word for God, Theos, is the corresponding parallel to the Old Testament Hebrew term Elohim. A well-known example of Christ being addressed as God (Theos) is found in the story of “doubting Thomas” in John 20. In this passage, Thomas witnesses the resurrected Christ and worshipfully responds: “My Lord and my God [Theos]” (John 20:28). Therefore when you deny Jesus as being God, as mentioned in the Holy Trinity/Godhead , you deny God. Therefore God will deny you. 2 John1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. Matt 10:33 But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven. However good a person you are on earth, however kind and generous you are , based on what you have said under this thread, when you die and are in line to get in through the pearly gates , you will meet Jesus then . And then Matt 7:23 kicks in, which reads …22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’ 24 Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. Done. Why should anyone here believe anything you say when it comes to Christianity anyway, you don't believe in the Holy Trinity a corner stone in Christianity. Thereby you do not believe in Christianity . You don't believe that Jesus Christ is also God - you realize the first 6 letters of Christianity spell the name Christ. Plus you do not believe in hell. Despite the fact that hell is referenced 162 times in the bible. Referred to by the following names sheol, hades, gehenma, and tartarus . So your opinions on Christianity are just that your opinions and invalid on their face . Though you attempt to pick and choose bible verses to rattle, slap, and tickle those who share the true meaning behind the truths of the bible being the word of God, the manual of Christianity as it were. You cannot pick and choose what you will believe regarding the word of God. One of the corner stones of Christianity is that you believe the word of God in entirety; from the 1st page in Genesis to the last page in Revelations . We all know what you claim to believe, by what person or manual , in context, did you come to believe these false teachings about Christianity ? Or is this a festivous thing for you ?
  11. My wife and I won't take it. My body, my choice sort of position. My 3 remaining sisters already jumped on it. And are pissed that I won't because of the myocarditis, pericarditis, and now this spike protein issue. Insinuating that they view my Nursing skills to be sub-par . That does not hurt so much as the idea of their developing a disease as a result, or just flat out dying. Most definitely what SDB Mike said !; first.
  12. IMPEACH JOE BIDEN NOW FOR HIS MIS-MANAGEMENT OF THIS ENTIRE AFGHAN MESS. Specifically for abandoning 40,000 - 50,000 US Citizens inside Afghanistan as it fell to enemy forces, unprotected; and with no means of getting out. Impeach Joe now !!!
  13. What is this contry going to look like by the midterms, and at the end of this failures 1st term ? God helps us to advert the disaster that appears to be on the horizon .
  14. Yup ! Wasn't it 50,000 US Citizens POTUS Biden left inside Afghanistan . No President of the USA has ever done that before . He should be impeached just for that.
  15. This Pastor is awesome when it comes to knowing who you are in Christ. He has a fairly thick NYC accent, so you may need to listen twice. He gets his knowledge of the devils play book because his background is that he is the former director of the satanic church of NYC. He was the #1 Warlock in that group. He got saved , accepted Jesus into his heart as Lord and Savior and works for God to save the lost, deceived, hurting.
  16. It is quite apparent Pre, that you don't know WHAT you believe in when it comes to Christianity or just faith in general. Yeah , i know your gonna say that not believing is a faith . NOT . For a person who does not believe in either , you like to tell others how much you claim to know about Christianity because you slap a out of context verse up on a screen. Then you shout , show me where in the bible it says this. Where in the bible does it say that. I do just that , and explain my answer in plain English, then you try to say ... ah well Kev ... I noticed you didn't ave any scriptures in that . And you never address the content of what I said . Pre , you are rocky ground (look up the parable of the shower in the N.T. ) at best at this time . I believe you are misunderstood , and that you misunderstand . Quite possibly hurt . There is good ground there still , if only you get rid of the rocks that prevent you from developing good strong roots. Everyone , except Jesus, has been in the same place, me included . That was the old me, it's not who I am anymore. I to was blind, but now I see. I was deaf, and now I hear. Thats an apllication of God's Holy Word found in John 9:25 If memory serves me correctly. God has not given up on you, else we would not have had this drawn out discussion. I think I can write a Masters in Divinity thesis now thanks to you. As 1 last seed, i believe it is time that you search out a 5 Fold Ministry, bible based believing church in your area and get some in person answers to the blurry of questions you have. You have graduated to this need now.
  17. Prehistoricman, you ... are ... whining . Wow! That was easy, I never ment to do that . I enjoy the sparring or debate as you put it. Is your blood pressure ok dude. You about lost it because I made 2 posts . I like you , you make me laugh. At first you claim that I don't include scripture in some posts , well that was because I thought you could keep up with the conversation and would realise that it was in regard to the distorted (heretical) bible quote you threw up there. Sorry, now I and others know you cannot keep up . Ted Bundy .... ha ha whaaat ? Dude stay on topic will you . To quote our President ... Come on man ! The God Head aka Holy Trinity here ya go . Not my research, but it speaks to the point in question where does the bible speak about the Holy Trinity. No need to reinvent the wheel , unlike you who is trying to reinvent Christianity . Don't hate the fact that it will walk through the bible Pre . If you want gold, ya gotta dig . The term Godhead is found three times in the King James Version: Acts 17:29; Romans 1:20; and Colossians 2:9. In each of the three verses, a slightly different Greek word is used, but the definition of each is the same: “deity” or “divine nature.” The word Godhead is used to refer to God’s essential nature. We’ll take a look at each of these passages and what they mean. In Acts 17, Paul is speaking on Mars Hill to the philosophers of Athens. As he argues against idolatry, Paul says, “Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device” (Acts 17:29, KJV). Here, the word Godhead is the translation of the Greek theion, a word used by the Greeks to denote “God” in general, with no reference to a particular deity. Paul, speaking to Greeks, used the term in reference to the only true God. In Romans 1, Paul begins to make the case that all humanity stands guilty before God. In verse 20 he says, “The invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse” (KJV). Here, Godhead is theiotés. Paul’s argument is that all of creation virtually shouts the existence of God; we can “clearly” see God’s eternal power, as well as His “Godhead” in what He has made. “The heavens declare the glory of God; / the skies proclaim the work of his hands” (Psalm 19:1). The natural world makes manifest the divine nature of God. Colossians 2:9 is one of the clearest statements of the deity of Christ anywhere in the Bible: “In him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” The word for “Godhead” here is theotés. According to this verse, Jesus Christ is God Incarnate. He embodies all (“the fulness”) of God (translated “the Deity” in the NIV). This truth aligns perfectly with Colossians 1:19, “God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him [Christ].” Because the Godhead dwells bodily in Christ, Jesus could rightly claim that He and the Father are “one” (John 10:30). Because the fullness of God’s divine essence is present in the Son of God, Jesus could say to Philip, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9). In summary, the Godhead is the essence of the Divine Being; the Godhead is the one and only Deity. Jesus, the incarnate Godhead, entered our world and showed us exactly who God is: “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known” (John 1:18; cf. Hebrews 1:3). Home Content Index God The Nature of God Godhead QUESTIOThe term Godhead is found three times in the King James Version: Acts 17:29; Romans 1:20; and Colossians 2:9. Int Greek word is used, but the definition of each is the same: “deity” or “divine nature.” The word Godhead is used to refer to God’s essential nature. We’ll take a look at each of these passages and what they mean. In Acts 17, Paul is speaking on Mars Hill to the philosophers of Athens. As he argues against idolatry, Paul says, “Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device” (Acts 17:29, KJV). Here, the word Godhead is the translation of the Greek theion, a word used by the Greeks to denote “God” in general, with no reference to a particular deity. Paul, speaking to Greeks, used the term in reference to the only true God. In Romans 1, Paul begins to make the case that all humanity stands guilty before God. In verse 20 he says, “The invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse” (KJV). Here, Godhead is theiotés. Paul’s argument is that all of creation virtually shouts the existence of God; we can “clearly” see God’s eternal power, as well as His “Godhead” in what He has made. “The heavens declare the glory of God; / the skies proclaim the work of his hands” (Psalm 19:1). The natural world makes manifest the divine nature of God. Colossians 2:9 is one of the clearest statements of the deity of Christ anywhere in the Bible: “In him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” The word for “Godhead” here is theotés. According to this verse, Jesus Christ is God Incarnate. He embodies all (“the fulness”) of God (translated “the Deity” in the NIV). This truth aligns perfectly with Colossians 1:19, “God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him [Christ].” Because the Godhead dwells bodily in Christ, Jesus could rightly claim that He and the Father are “one” (John 10:30). Because the fullness of God’s divine essence is present in the Son of God, Jesus could say to Philip, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9). In summary, the Godhead is the essence of the Divine Being; the Godhead is the one and only Deity. Jesus, the incarnate Godhead, entered our world and showed us exactly who God is: “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself sest relationship with the Father, ha
  18. Heresy . Not part of Christianity at all, at all ! Proof that this person does not know the Lord Jesus Christ at all . God did not install Moses as a God. (Though I suspect I know what Pre-man is trying to set up here with this remark.) God chose Moses just like He chose me, and everyone else that knows Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savoir . Exactly the same way. Let everyone go to any and all future bible quotes, and send him that verse with 2 or so verses before and after, and send that to him. Hear this too, there is one being that knows more about Jesus than you or I ; that being is satan. Sh-im can twist the words about the bible, Jesus, with its smooth and velvet tongue . Kinda like Jim Jones did . But if you know who's you are in Christ Jesus, which is co-heir to the things of heaven, the Father , Son , and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit living inside you will prevent you from the snares of the enemy, which are thrown at your feet to cause your stumbling by those who serve the one who comes to kill, steal and destroy. Umm, that would be from John 10:10 . I will be praying for you Pre-man. It is my belief that the stronger Satan attacks you, directly or through its servants, it is an indication of how much damage you could do to Satan's plans, should you discover whose you are in Christ. You Pre-man could be powerful in dismantling the things of hell, if you exercise your free will to serve the Lord. He will use you to perform greater miracles and to delivery greater sermons than Jesus did . If only you excepted Jesus as Lord and Savior , for real. Then simply lived according to The Word . But God will never force you, either will I. I will shout from the mountain top when a deceiving mouth piece is trying to cause God's flock to go a stray. Everytime.
  19. Below are a few vedses before verse 34, and a couple after it . 29 "Come, see a man who told me everything I ever did. Could this be the Christ[2] ?" 30 They came out of the town and made their way toward him. 31 Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something." 32 But he said to them, "I have food to eat that you know nothing about." 33 Then his disciples said to each other, "Could someone have brought him food?" 34 "My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. 35 Do you not say, `Four months more and then the harvest'? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. 36 Even now the reaper draws his wages, even now he harvests the crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. See what a difference the light makes . How a few scriptures before your bumper sticker bible quote bring it i said quote of yours into understanding . In verse 34 in answer to the disciples who wished to serve Jesus by getting Him some food , He told them, and now us, which includes you that what sustains Jesus while He is here on earth, what nourishes his earthly body and Devine Spirt is to do the will of the Father . ... and to finish His work which is 1. To fulfill all that the prophets of the old Testiment said about the Mesiah. Such as How can I identify messianic prophecies in the Old Testament? ANSWER By some counts, there are over 300 messianic prophecies in the Old Testament. That’s why in the New Testament we often find statements like this: “These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled” (John 19:36). Some messianic prophecies in the Old Testament are fairly straightforward; others are more indirect. Here are some pointers on identifying prophecies of the Messiah: Study the Word. This should go without saying, but, in understanding the Bible, there’s no substitute for actually reading the Bible and prayerfully seeking wisdom from on high (James 1:5). Some messianic prophecies in the Old Testament are clearly identified as such by the prophets who wrote them. The word Messiah means “Anointed One” or “Chosen One,” and those titles are found in several prophecies. Daniel 9:25–26 is an important prophecy about the Messiah’s death. Psalm 2:2 also refers to the Lord’s Anointed. Of course, context is always important when we interpret Scripture. Not every mention of an “anointed one” in the Old Testament is a reference to the promised Messiah. King Cyrus of Persia is called God’s anointed one in Isaiah 45:1, and so is King Saul in 1 Samuel 24:10; both those kings were chosen by God for special work, which is the underlying meaning of being “anointed.” Learn the various titles of the Messiah. Some messianic prophecies in the Old Testament use different names for the Messiah. For example, Isaiah 42:1 speaks of the Messiah as the “Servant” of the Lord. The prophecy of Numbers 24:17 calls the Messiah the “Star” that comes from Judah. In Isaiah 11:1, the Messiah is a “Branch” that bears much fruit. Often, the Messiah is presented in the Old Testament as a king who will rule in righteousness (see Isaiah 9:6–7; 32:1; Jeremiah 23:5; Zechariah 9:9). Compare Scripture with Scripture. Some messianic prophecies in the Old Testament are identified by New Testament writers. Matthew is especially helpful in linking Old Testament prophecies to their fulfillment in the life of Christ. Jesus’ birth is the fulfillment of Isaiah 7:14 (cp. Matthew 1:18–23). Jesus’ flight to Egypt turns out to be the fulfillment of an indirect prophecy in Hosea 11:1 (cp. Matthew 2:15). Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem is linked to Zechariah 9:9 (cp. Matthew 21:1–5). Jesus’ death on the cross fulfilled many Old Testament prophecies, including Psalm 34:20 and Zechariah 12:10 (cp. John 19:31–37). Jesus is both Messiah and servant . God and man . He knows the human body needs food to survive , but God is also telling His believers , in verse 34, here that what sustains the servant of God who is sent by Father is to do the will of the Father . Reinforcing the teaching that God will provide for every need , for His servant that is sent out to do their calling in fulfillment of the great commission. Which is to go out I to all the world and preach the gospel . P.S. Jesus even in His earthly body has His own supply of free will. It is Jesus exercising His free will , to be sustained by doing the will of the Father.
  20. You are deluded dude. The last thing you can ever do is to destroy my beliefs in my Lord Jesus Christ . You are solidifying my belief as I respond to you in the way I hear the Father telling me to respond. You are achieving quite the opposite with your cheap Jedi mind trick ... I am destroying your beliefs ... ha ha ha, that is so laughable. When you say "I am winning" I picture you in front of the tv replaying over and over the clips of a stoned Charlie Sheen telling everyone that he is winning . Ah ha ha ha ha. Come back to me and "debate" when you have the hutzba to give me 2 verses before and after these out of context verse quotes you sling out there. Are you scared that you may receive revelation as to the lies you have been believing all this time . Because you know the more you do this the closer you are getting to believe as I believe . All who now have salvation were as lost and hungry as you are at one point . You started this when rvmydinar and you suggested my God was a she . Come after me all you want and debate me . "Debating you is like getting more and more energy in the 4th and 5th round as I sense my opponents defeat. Again, i do not want your defeat I want to help you to receive your salvation and the understanding of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit . You will not be allowed to peel of the souls of those who are on the fence about God and reading these texts .They will be allowed discernment for themselves. Discernment to at minimum look up the quotes you share, and read the 2 verses before and after the one you copy and paste up here and receive enlightenment . In Jesus's name I declare, in Jesus's name I pray. Amen .
  21. Frank's use of the "boots on the ground" phase is what nix-ed it for me . Thanks Luigi !
  22. Dude, still you are cherry picking and mixing OT and NT , and apparently failing to do the work yourself to reconcile. That's kinda like saying math is fake because when learning addition you refuse to recognize what the " + " sign is for . Regarding these out of context quotes give me 2 verses before them, and 2 verses after each of them then we will talk .
  23. Heretic ! Stop trying to manipulate what the bible says by your self declarations that if this xyz small section is not true than the entire bible is not true . You may not understand it, possibly because there is a underlying purpose to what you are saying. Possibly , you have held onto your atheistic beliefs so strongly for so long ,never really learning about The Bible , that the truths of the answers you are receiving here from myself and others, well they are rocking your atheistic foundations. The entirety of Exodus 33 is a conversation between God and Moses on the mountain . You would know that if you actually read the whole thing . Read the whole of chapter 33 of Exodus. If that does not clarify everything for you, read the entirety of The Book of Exodus which is the story on how Father God brought His people the Jews out of Egypt and slavery, and then opine .
  24. LoWell thank you for the proof. Proof that you obviously are not a Christian at all . Since you just love referring to Exodus 33:20 I understand why you are so confused. A Christian understands and believes in the Trinity of God . God the Father , the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit , one being (God) manifested in 3 forms This verse in context is referring to God the Father ,in His Godly form when He is to be before anyone who has sinned. Even those who have sinned and been forgiven of their sin. Until the return of Jesus , establishing the new heaven on earth . Or the person is in heaven , note the phrase " at this time ." Oh yeah almost forgot use full quotes , from a bible and not just a little quip from a bumper sticker. Exo 33:20 And He said unto Moses, Thou canst not see my face at this time, lest mine anger be kindled against thee also, and I destroy thee, and thy people; for there shall no man among them see me at this time, and live, for they are exceeding sinful. This scripture is true in its entirety.
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