Keywords: parties that have signed the Convention on the Arbil is ready to announce it to the media

[Realdinar]

Beam me up scotty!!! Lets live long and prosperous!!! Man your battle stations!! This is really the undiscovered country!!

[redsand]

Beam me up scotty!!! Lets live long and prosperous!!! Man your battle stations!! This is really the undiscovered country!!

Did someone watch THE RIVER last night? hmmmmmm.....

[caz1104]

We have quite a few police officers on this site, including myself....You can tell we dont make a lot of money...

Thanks for ur service and keeping our citizens safe.Best to all

[rockhound60]

once again , thank you for the great news!

[Alex38]

Great stuff! I'm gonna go back to bed. Someone call me when this is complete. Thanks!

[Carrello]

Yes this is good news.....and in this article it appears it has been signed, now the announcement to the people to explain stuff?

That's what it reads to me.

[nemesis760]

Keywords: parties that have signed the Convention on the Arbil is ready to announce it to the media

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 11:28

Baghdad {: News} Euphrates MP for the coalition of state law on the Keywords that political parties that have signed the Convention on the Arbil is ready to announce the content of the Convention to the media.

The political blocs took place in Erbil in late 2010 on an agreement under which an end to the dispute between the National Alliance and the Iraqi List, about the consistence of the formation of the government included several items.

And he said: Agency News} {Euphrates on Wednesday that "the political leaders who signed the agreement Erbil more than once expressed their willingness announce the terms of Irbil to the Iraqi people that these items do not include political leaders feared something to say about him."

He added that "all political blocs familiar with the agreement of Arbil and achieved most of its articles and has remained a small part of its debate taking place in the corridors of the judiciary and the government and the House of Representatives."

He emphasized that "the National Alliance carried out all its obligations to the Convention and by this more than once confirmed its strong commitment to it."

Some of the deputies pointed to the existence of secret agreements within the Erbil Convention has not disclosed the leaders of political blocs and demanded that the announcement of those agreements to the Iraqi people. Ended 2 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alforatnews.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D6188:2012-02-08-08-23-43%26catid%3D36:2011-04-08-17-25-25%26Itemid%3D54

More than once...??? What the hell?

[JayLee202]

Forgive me everyone if I've missed something here, but can someone please help me understand what this has to do with and RV? What agreements and what does this Convention intels?

Thanks

[jupitergirl]

As my good friend THE ROCK would say.....BRING IT DON'T SING IT!

[George Hayduke]

Just go ahead and announce it

Deet, deet, dadeet...deet, deet, dadeet...Good evening Mr. and Mrs. IQD holders of the world and to all the ships at sea: Attention, attention, read all about it; signed ERBIL agreement to be announced to the media...

...soon too!

GH

[cabinetman]

Yota The Man....Thank you...great post!

[Nakida]

Ok so I am thinking I am getting excited when maybe I shouldnt? How does this affect the RV?

[DetroittoAZ]

Yessir thanks Yota!

[jetphyxr]

It's been a long day !

[hollywood7]

Great stuff! I'm gonna go back to bed. Someone call me when this is complete. Thanks!

actors?lol

[amhvl]

OK..got what you mean ....man this could be good..

Line up the RV dominos and let them fall into place one by one.

[Blessed4ever]

Question:

Why do you guys think that they would put an article out to the media, to say that they are "ready to announce it to the media"

Why dont they just announce it when it's done and ready to publish? Why "announce" that they will be "announcing" it. ??

What would be the advantage of this? Just curious...

[gregp]

Doing the happy dance.

You go snoopy!!

[yota691]

Here a little Info on the Arbil's Framework. for the future of the country.

In an op-ed in The New York Times today, Iraqiyya leaders Ayyad Allawi, Usama al-Nujayfi and Rafi al-Eisawi bemoan increasingly authoritarian tendencies in Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s second government. The accusations against Maliki include overreach with respect to his attempts to control the security ministries as well as manipulation of the Iraqi judiciary for political ends. The cure, as the Iraqiyya leaders see it, is implementation of the shadowy Arbil framework that prepared the ground for the formation of the second Maliki government in November 2010.

For his part, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has also used the opportunity to reiterate his own vision of Iraq. Basically, he is saying that the Arbil agreement contains many unconstitutional provisions regarding power-sharing and that the constitution must prevail. In more practical terms, he is saying that if ministers from Iraqiyya are unhappy with his current approach he is prepared to replace them by acting ministers without pausing for parliamentary approval.

Both Iraqiyya and Maliki have ended up with rather strained arguments. In their NYT op-ed, Allawi et al. say they represent a non-sectarian Iraq, and yet the Arbil agreement is in fact a very clear step towards greater formal sectarianism in Iraq, including calls for ethno-sectarian “balances” in the institutions of the state. Maliki is technically correct in deeming large parts of the agreement unconstitutional. On the whole, the Arbil agreement implied Iraqiyya moving extremely far in a pro-Kurdish, anti-centralist direction as soon as they realised that they themselves would not control the premiership.

But Maliki, too, is on thin ice with his revived “constitutionalism” argument. It is true that the constitution posits a prime minister that is relatively strong vis-à-vis his other colleagues in the executive, and more so after the veto powers of the transitional presidency council came to an end in late 2010. However, Maliki seems to forget that vertically speaking , the same constitution also delegates an incredible amount of power to both governorates and federal regions. It could well be argued that Maliki’s way of centralising power towards the governorates south of Kurdistan is as unconstitutional as the Arbil agreement.

Alas, Iraqiyya leaders are probably likely to go on insisting on the implementation of the Arbil agreement. (Not that it matters much anymore, but so will probably the United States.) This is likely to be a frustrated uphill struggle for several reasons. Many of the provisions of the agreement depend upon the passage of additional legislation in parliament, and some of this should arguably be approved in popular referendums since the provisions are unconstitutional in their present shape. Even if it were successful, the Arbil agreement would lead to a fragmented state with ever greater focus on ethno-sectarian identities, i.e. the opposite of what Iraqiyya traditionally stands for. There are signs that at times, even Iran sees this scenario as preferable to an overly dominant Maliki.

With respect to Maliki’s vision of a strongman ruler that speaks a nationalist language, it is pretty much a Shiite version of Saddam Hussein. This in itself may be more in tune with Iraqi tradition than Western observers are prepared to admit; however the question is whether Maliki will be able to implement it in practice. So far he has emulated Saddam strategies with respect to using tribal powers in areas dominated by the opposite sect (the Sunni-dominated Baath carefully built ties to the tribes in the Shiite south). To some extent, he can probably also depend on the fact that many Kurds and Shiites that are flirting with Iraqiyya these days will likely revert to bilateral dealmaking with him if matters should truly come to a head.

More significantly, perhaps, at yesterday’s cabinet meeting, the presence of three ministers of Iraqiyya (which is supposedly boycotting these meetings) was celebrated by members of Maliki’s coalition. Those present were reportedly the electricity minister Abd al-Karim Aftan al-Jumayli, Izz al-Din al-Dawla and Abd al-Karim al-Samarraie. It is noteworthy that Dawla and Samarraie are from the Iraqiyya factions of Usama al-Nujayfi (Iraqiyyun) and Tareq al-Hashemi (Tajdid) respectively.

This may well represent Maliki’s game plan: To break Iraqiyya and co-opt a limited number of their ministers into a revamped cabinet. So far, his successes in this respect have been only modest: It is noteworthy that Allawi, Eisawi and Nujayfi collectively signed the NYT op-ed today despite persistent rumours about internal wrangling in Iraqiyya. Today, symbolically, while everyone agrees on the need for an urgent “national conference”, the Maliki camp wants it to go ahead in Baghdad, with others including Iraqiyya preferring Kurdistan as summit location.

If Maliki wants to build something sustainable, he will have to be honest with his own “constitutionalism” and admit that the constitution needs fixing if he wants a centralised form of government south of Kurdistan. Recent anti-federalism statements from Sunni politicians in Mosul suggest there is still a Sunni audience for this kind of message. Re-visiting these issues through the creation of a new constitutional review committee may have a more liberating effect on Iraqi politics than reverting to the stalemates associated with the Arbil framework.

[Flyboy42]

what about the HCL that Adam was talking about?

[Stryker365]

what about the HCL that Adam was talking about?

If they can come together on Arbil then the Kurd's and the Iraqiyya will vote to pass the HCL IMO.

Not sure how Adam see's it but that's my take on it....

Edited February 8, 2012 by Stryker365

[Carrello]

If they can come together on Arbil then the Kurd's and the Iraqiyya will vote to pass the HCL IMO.

Not sure how Adam see's it but that's my take on it....

That's good enough for me.

[Stryker365]

It is noteworthy that Allawi, Eisawi and Nujayfi collectively signed the NYT op-ed today despite persistent rumours about internal wrangling in Iraqiyya. Today, symbolically, while everyone agrees on the need for an urgent “national conference”, the Maliki camp wants it to go ahead in Baghdad, with others including Iraqiyya preferring Kurdistan as summit location.......Maliki needs to give and take on issues

If Maliki wants to build something sustainable, he will have to be honest with his own “constitutionalism”

[fnbplanet]

I had this saved from another site, dated 9/29/11. Thought it might come in handy some day.

Erbil Agreement (19 points)

The Kurdistan Region’s position on the formation of the new Iraqi government is summarized in the following 19 points. The new government must be dedicated to the following:

1- Commitment to the Iraqi Constitution, with all of its articles without exception, and protection of Iraq’s federal, democratic system

2- A coalition government in which all major Iraqi components participate

3- Commitment to the principle of partnership and participation in decision-making through:

a. Establishment of a Council on National Security, to be created through the passing of a special law at the same time as the government is formed

b. Drafting of bylaws for the Council of Ministers which would give it added legitimacy and institutionalization. Through joint decision-making, the Council would ensure that administrative and financial powers are shared between the Prime Minister and his deputies

c. Adherence to the principle of consensus.

4- Formation of a Federal Council within the first year of this Parliament. The President and his deputies have the right to veto legislation until this Council is formed

5- Amendment of the current electoral law to guarantee that all Iraqis are represented fairly

6- The census should be conducted on time in October 2010

7- Review of the structures of the security and military forces to reflect a fair representation of all Iraqis in these forces

8- Introduction of checks and balances in all Ministries and Institutions of state

9- Implementation of Article 140 of Iraq’s Constitution and allocation of the necessary budget within a period that does not exceed two years following the formation of the government

10- Passage of a law for water resources within the first year of the government formation on the basis of the latest agreed-upon draft

11- Passage of a law for oil and gas within the first year of the government formation on the basis of the latest agreed-upon draft

12- Supplying the Peshmerga forces with arms, equipments, and funds as part of the Iraqi national defense system

13- support for the Kurdistan Region’s candidate for the post of President of the Republic

14- Compensation for the victims of the former regime, including the victims of the Anfal campaign and chemical bombings of Halabja and other places, immediately and justly

15- The Kurdistan Region’s blocs should have a fair representation within the sovereign ministries and other institutions based on national gains in the elections

16- The Kurdistan Region should have the right to cross-examine candidates for the posts of minister of any sovereign ministries and those ministries that are relevant to the Region

17- The Kurdistan Region’s negotiating team should elect a candidate for the post of the Secretary of the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers

18- In the event that the Kurdistan Region’s blocs withdraw from the government due to a clear breach of the Constitution, the Iraqi government would then be considered dissolved

19- The Prime Minister’s bloc in both the Parliament and the Council of Ministers must make a commitment to the implementation of the above terms.

[Abarvets]

Remember, there has already been at least one reading of the HCL that we know of. The children have not been playing nice in the sandbox and some picked up there toys and went home to cry to Dad. Dad didn't go along with them and said shape up. We are seeing the results of the lecture they recieved for leaving the sandbox early. Everything will fall into place and we will all be amazed that it is finally done. Now back to the drinks and popcorn.