Adam's Chat 7/6/11 1:25pm

[TexasGranny]

Why is there no text alert to VIP members on issues such as "Early Chat"?

Because that is the method Adam will use to notify VIP members of RV. If he uses for other things, people may disregard his message when its the

one they've been waiting 7 years to receive.

Also, most free members do not have their cell phone registered with the site - there is no way he can send them a text message.

Plus, there are 37,000+ members, not just VIP's and they are all free to attend Adam's chat - that is a lot of text messages!

[tamiflyer]

I totally agree with Iraq not being able to defend themselves without the US help at this time. Yes, they can manage with day to day activities, police deterrence, ect. However, there is an important factor that is missing from this and that an airforce is the key element to protect their borders and this is a slow process for the Iraqis at the present time. I have not been able to find any articles where Iraq has purchased fighter jets or any tachtical aircrafts anywhere. This does not mean that chapter 7 can't be lifted or an RV can't take place but surely makes it easier for any country to see them comming before they get there. So IMMHO, an airforce would be needed to guarantee safer return of foreing investments if the US decides to fully retreat from the AO. GLTA and Go RV.

[edbeach]

Adam

We appreciate all your work you are doing and keeping us informed of what is the real truth

rather than what we read about all the dates of RV coming out of the woodwork

May the force be with you

[army03]

Be very caution and do your own homework..

[Bumper64]

Thank you paperboy for having the integrity to at least respond.Much better than whoever removed my post which was not nearly as harsh as it could have been.If you read my post It was also stated as my opinion.

Dinar-racer and WowLewi

I was the mod that removed your post. My intentions were to let you know why it was removed and to also suggest that you reframe from bashing the owner of this Privately Owned Site. Business called me away from the computer and when I returned to the computer a couple of hours later I forgot to finish what was started and for that I am sorry for leaving this subject open-ended but it is most likely best that this turned out the way it did.

Paperboy, thank you for following up on this and also for the backup of a fellow mod. You are a great mod and I am glad to work along with you.

Thanks

Bump

[Mr.B.]

I thought I read somewhere a few days ago the Chapter 7 had been lifted. I can't find it so maybe i am wrong

Yes I read that post too it was in the Iraqi news not the rumors, I will try to find it. But it did say chapter 7 had been lifted.

[srdedeaux]

Great Post, Guru's Doing the Doo! RV Post Haste!

[MovieMaker]

Much appreciated

[Buckeye Pilot]

Im sorry.....I simply just cant grasp the concept of a "Well Defended/Secure Iraq Before RV" With a Mechanized Infantry and Air Superiority?......Wow Your looking at a minimum of 2-3 years(Minimum) to obtain that kind of Military Infrastructure.

Period............

[paperboy]

Bumper - no problem - just trying to keep it respectful here. We have a dinar site that I'm proud to be a part of and appreciate your work here also. Glad to be on Adam's team.

[thompson25]

Im sorry.....I simply just cant grasp the concept of a "Well Defended/Secure Iraq Before RV" With a Mechanized Infantry and Air Superiority?......Wow Your looking at a minimum of 2-3 years(Minimum) to obtain that kind of Military Infrastructure.

Period............

Agreed. If Adam really believes this is the reason for the holdup then things are looking pretty bleak.

[WowLewi]

Dinar-racer and WowLewi

I was the mod that removed your post. My intentions were to let you know why it was removed and to also suggest that you reframe from bashing the owner of this Privately Owned Site. Business called me away from the computer and when I returned to the computer a couple of hours later I forgot to finish what was started and for that I am sorry for leaving this subject open-ended but it is most likely best that this turned out the way it did.

Paperboy, thank you for following up on this and also for the backup of a fellow mod. You are a great mod and I am glad to work along with you.

Thanks

Bump

Hey Bumper,

Thanks for your reply and to you paperboy.

WowLewi

[LS1Hawk]

I agree FULLY with Bigd - no country in there right mind, or crazy for that matter would invade Iraq... and for what, a few billion in dues? Besides there resources, but even then. All surrounding possibilities either have their own contracts with Iran, saudi, or like, any provacation would be foolish.

Thought I disagree to a point, I'm thrilled to hear the news from Adam, and for that, I thank you Adam.

[SR71_Blackbird]

and Iraq is trying to make it look like they will wait till next year to make this move\

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1ROqj29cA

Respectfully...NOW we've got 'next year' in the mix and in a later answer to a question, '....hopefully it will be soon, though'...or something close to that. At any rate, it's all BS...nobody knows...and all information to this point has been WRONG...and I have nothing to contribute other than an entirely correct and accurate observation of the facts and EVERYONE who has speculated on an outcome, regardless of its content, has been WRONG, continues to be WRONG and that hasn't changed one iota. I don't claim to be an expert; I haven't set myself up as one; I READILY ADMIT THAT I DON'T 'KNOW'...but neither does anyone else. So what's the point???

[bales130]

Bumper, Just because someone disagrees or doesn't go along with someones opinions does not mean they are bashing someone. It shouldn't matter who we disagree with, thats our choice. That is why Dinar Vets is so sucessfull, peopele can say and express how they feel. We are the United States Of America, correct, freedom of speech is one of the most important amendments in our constitution. I understand about keeping the language clean and moderating the chats, but to not allow someones honest opionion because it goes against what the site owner says isn't right. The mods allow pumpers to post complete lies so people who are uneducated will break open their piggy banks and buy more dinar, but someones honesty and expression isn't allowed? Socialism, not on my watch

[Adam Montana]

hang on a second, everyone... if it sounded like I was implying that the US isn't doing a good job of keeping Iraq safe... that is NOT what I meant. I strongly support our troops and would never say a bad word about the amazing job our men and women are doing there!

My point is that until Chapter 7 is lifted, there is no way Iraq CAN protect themselves. Do your research on Chapter 7 - Iraq isn't allowed to have an active functioning military due to the sanctions imposed on them by Chapter 7.

I'm also not saying that they have to have a military that is equal to the US military, that would be silly! But they need the ability to form their own forces, and also use them.

Of course we could stay there forever and continue to keep that country safe... but why would we want to do that? The intelligent thing to do is exactly what we have been doing - aiding them while they iron out the wrinkles in their government, assist while they emerge from a very dark period and come into democracy, and then step out of the way when they are ready to take care of their own selves.

Once Chapter 7 is lifted, Iraq will be able to do those things, and the path will be open to them. This could be today, tomorrow, next week, or two years from now - if that bothers you, please don't shoot the messenger! I'm just laying the facts out for you to see.

There was a post from a Tax attorney that I thought said Iraq could not come out of Chapter 7 until they revalued?? And the Revalue was the last step. Anyone??

That's not true - it could happen that way, but it's not a requirement.

The United States Military is keeping anyone from invading Iraq. We have the largest embassy in the world there, and eight military bases. I don't think security is the real issue

Like I said - I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying we shouldn't have to stay there forever, and Iraq will not need us forever. Until Iraq can stand on it's own, they don't deserve to have one of the strongest currencies in the world. Once they are able to carry their own weight, the US can step out of the way and us investors can collect some profits!

IMO it's the perception that Iraq is handling their security on it's own is what is important. Clearly the US with or without Iraq's help will keep anyone from invading but there is more than one country that would cry foul if it appears that we are in charge of Iraq's security. The yellow belly U.S.A. haters will claim that if we control security we control their money and therefore control their government. If Adam is right I believe it's merely semantics but must be done to release Chapter VII. The good news is if it is just semantics we just hand them the sword and say "it's all yours boys". JMO

Thanks for the comment, I agree.

Why is there no text alert to VIP members on issues such as "Early Chat"?

Because it's not an urgent matter, and 99% of the VIPs would be mad if I sent a text about something that silly!

[KANAGAROO]

Bumper, Just because someone disagrees or doesn't go along with someones opinions does not mean they are bashing someone. It shouldn't matter who we disagree with, thats our choice. That is why Dinar Vets is so sucessfull, peopele can say and express how they feel. We are the United States Of America, correct, freedom of speech is one of the most important amendments in our constitution. I understand about keeping the language clean and moderating the chats, but to not allow someones honest opionion because it goes against what the site owner says isn't right. The mods allow pumpers to post complete lies so people who are uneducated will break open their piggy banks and buy more dinar, but someones honesty and expression isn't allowed? Socialism, not on my watch

I am just an average American citizen. From my understanding the first amendment right to our constitution is to declare the inability of any government, USA, state, county, or city from banning free speech. I think it would be silly for me to state "I demend my constitutional right to free speech" to protect me when I am on someones elses property and saying your an "Idiot, bum, no good person who isn't worth my time to be talking," However, I felt that today I would let you and world know what I think while standing on your property!

Edited July 7, 2011 by KANAGAROO

[dinar-racer]

Just my opinion----Lifting of chapter 7 an agreement between UN (the world) and Iraq on how they will conduct themselves in the future,nothing to do with rv.Also Rv and the buying power that comes with it would be needed to afford to build proper military and infrastructure.so wouldn't that promote a n rv sooner rather than hold it up?

[4Horsn2]

As always...thanks for the insight and to you kcw for posting!!

[summershah]

KCW thanks for the post, I hope they get this done soon. Thanks Adam for the info. :)

[bales130]

Thank you Adam for your explanation and your opinion. I jumped the gun, sorry about that, much props to you

[sportfisher]

hang on a second, everyone... if it sounded like I was implying that the US isn't doing a good job of keeping Iraq safe... that is NOT what I meant. I strongly support our troops and would never say a bad word about the amazing job our men and women are doing there!

My point is that until Chapter 7 is lifted, there is no way Iraq CAN protect themselves. Do your research on Chapter 7 - Iraq isn't allowed to have an active functioning military due to the sanctions imposed on them by Chapter 7.

I'm also not saying that they have to have a military that is equal to the US military, that would be silly! But they need the ability to form their own forces, and also use them.

Of course we could stay there forever and continue to keep that country safe... but why would we want to do that? The intelligent thing to do is exactly what we have been doing - aiding them while they iron out the wrinkles in their government, assist while they emerge from a very dark period and come into democracy, and then step out of the way when they are ready to take care of their own selves.

Once Chapter 7 is lifted, Iraq will be able to do those things, and the path will be open to them. This could be today, tomorrow, next week, or two years from now - if that bothers you, please don't shoot the messenger! I'm just laying the facts out for you to see.

That's not true - it could happen that way, but it's not a requirement.

Like I said - I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying we shouldn't have to stay there forever, and Iraq will not need us forever. Until Iraq can stand on it's own, they don't deserve to have one of the strongest currencies in the world. Once they are able to carry their own weight, the US can step out of the way and us investors can collect some profits!

Thanks for the comment, I agree.

Because it's not an urgent matter, and 99% of the VIPs would be mad if I sent a text about something that silly!

Adam, I feel left out.........

[kid4dinar]

It has always been explained to me, in the old days of following intel and asking questions.

The last hold up of Chapter 7 would be the signing off on Chapter 7 from Kuwait.

Kuwait recieved alot of Dinar, Iraq wanted to pay off Kuwait for border issues and the airplanes and the land. etc.etc...in usd in american dollars.

Kuwait said no, they wanted to be paid off in dinars and, were paid in Dinar.

Back then the intel suggested Kuwait would not release that last OKAY, until they saw the real RV. The number they would see at the banks..

Reason (use to be) was they Do Not want the dinar to be valued above the kuwait dinar.

If they RV'ed high the work force would jump boarder and go work in Iraq.

They (Kuwait) Do Not want it to be to low because they were paid in Dinar's.

So when all is ready the Rv will take place If kuwait likes the numbers, then and only then Kuwait will release the final clause to Chapter 7.

These things have all been around but no longer talked about. I do not know if it does not apply anymore.

But this is what was said had to be done.

So Iraq is still under Chapter 7 until we all see the number.

Number first in the banks then Chapter 7 sign off by Kuwait.

Thanks for reading I hope this helps, and this very well could be out dated information.

[Chilliherb]

G'day Bloke's & Sheila's

Adam perhaps you could comment on Kid4dinar reply it actually makes sense and to add to that . I believe the US may have a very good reason to stay while the RV is done and for a time after and that is to make sure that corrupt elements of the New Government & possible insurgent activity does not cause problems while the RV is settling down.

I understand this is a simplistic view but I am keen to know what you know of Kid4dinars information.

Cheers Chilli

[Gaet028]

Thank Adam and the Mods