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3 hours ago, Indraman said:

 

Was any of the FISA Warrant request information fabricated or false? If so, who is to blame? The judges or the people submitting the false and fabricated information?

 

Indy

 

One other thing to consider...if they went before the court 3 additional times to continue the warrant (every 90 days they have to renew the warrant), they would have knowingly and unlawfully put false evidence in front of the FISA Court Judge, then this was not a one time episode but multiple episodes of violation of the civil liberties of American citizens.

 

WATERGATE was only one break-in...this is multiple violations of the law in the hopes of supporting the election of one party (THE DEMS) in favor of bringing down the other party (THE REPUBS).

 

Indy

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6 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

***///MAGA!

 

Y'know, SYN... SHABby & his ilk are too ignorant to realise that it isn't merely a partisan issue this....

 

Every American should be concerned that the way this was pulled off by the CLINTON COLLUSION CABAL affects all of US.

 

Sure the leftists are screaming bloody murder, they're the perpetrators of the crime(s).

 

And their 'dear leaders' are hollerin' loudest because it's THEIR pals at the top of this s--tstorm who are going to be held to account.

NOT - as they claim - the hard-working, Patriotic men & women of these Agencies.

 

Sure they're claiming we all hate the entire FBI / CIA / DOJ ... but that is the typical lie in their kommie LIE-DENY-DEFLECT arsenal.

 

Like when Nancy-the-walking-cadaver Pelosi screams "ARMAGEDDON!" over trashing the Individual mandate,

or when crazy Maxine screams hysterically that your children will die if they hear or see The President speak.

 

 

"They changed the Memo ! Aggghhhh!" = Lefty  LIE. <_<

"They shouldn't release it... State Secrets!" =  Uh, no.  Cleared by REAL FBI Agents.

 

And whose saying this..? that's right --- those whose ballz are in a vice and feel the big squeeze comin'.

 

The Rank n' File, like US, all know who doesn't want it released & why.

The partisan hacks who are freaking out because THEY can no longer control US, can scream all they want.

 

We're gonna MAGA and that means exposing, eradicating & jailing all these criminals floating at the top of the kommie s--t stew THEY made.

 

 

Git a rope. :angry:

 

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5 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

The President is NOT trying to "tear down the greatest Law Enforcement Agency in the world".

 

THAT is a partisan LIE and you know it. No way YOU could be THAT ignorant !

Parroting THAT lefty LIE makes YOU look foolish.

 

He knows we MUST remove the PARTISAN HACKS who ARE destroying it.

And this is exactly what the rank n' file - hard working REAL troops in the Agencies are saying, too.

They've hated working in the kommie ho'bummer dicktatership and are finally feeling they can speak out & say so

without facing the wrath of YOUR 'dear leader" ! :angry:

 

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HEAR!!! HEAR!!!

 

:salute:   :salute:   SgtFuryUSCZ!!! :salute:    :salute:

 

Thank You, SgtFuryUSCZ, for Your factually based comments so eloquently stated!!!

 

Too bad the Socialist Liberal Left is so bent on destroying These United States Of America!!!

 

Socialist Liberal Left - Bleeple Sheeple Like Nothing Else This World Has Or Ever Will See!!!

 

   :shakehead:                :shakehead:                :shakehead:
 
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4 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Not humor, but TRUTH.........One would think any self professed "Patriot" would own his/her misdeeds.  :shakehead:

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

That would be YOU, Shabs, here!!! Your, Shabs, comments have been so tasteless, biased, unfounded, and down right STUPID so clearly demonstrated in YOUR, Shabs, statements here that no amount of YOUR, Shabs, Cheeky Comments can obfuscate YOUR, Shabs, Open Disdain for Rule Of Law!!!

 

So, Shabs, show us all YOUR, Shabs, "Patriot" here (I realize this is a rhetorical and heckling taunt for YOU, Shabs, here)!!!

 

Socialist Liberal Left - Bleeple Sheeple Like Nothing Else This World Has Or Ever Will See!!!

 

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5 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

That is where you are wrong. He does deserve to be there because He Was Elected. What he does not deserve is to have people sworn to uphold,protect and follow the Constitution try to undermine his presidency. Those people should be arrested and tried for treason. 

 

5 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Are you insinuating that Donald Trump's "hand picked" Attorney General, Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Wray are trying to undermine Trump and the U.S. Constitution?

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

Don't twist my words. I will not continue a dialogue with someone who does. You stated he does not deserve the presidency. I said he does through a legal election.

The people who are under investigations in the FBI, DOJ who were appointed or hired under the last admin are the ones who are trying to overthrow a duly elected president. That is treason. If you don't see that then you tell me what it means when a person agrees with those action and how that goes against the Constitution that they have sworn to uphold.  We are talking about the false information that was used to generate the FISA warrant. 

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https://conservativedailypost.com/committee-chair-issues-instructions-fbi-to-be-charged-with-contempt-of-congress/

 

heads are going to roll over this.....No flppin way to spine it other then laws were broken to Upsurp the Nation and Take control of the Government.

 

This goes out to Shabs, B/A and the rest of the very confused liberals that just can't seem to grasp that the last 8 years were a sham and POTUS Trump is doing what he can even with all the Opposition from both sides of the isle.

 

 

Karsten

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12 minutes ago, Karsten said:

https://conservativedailypost.com/committee-chair-issues-instructions-fbi-to-be-charged-with-contempt-of-congress/

 

heads are going to roll over this.....No flppin way to spine it other then laws were broken to Upsurp the Nation and Take control of the Government.

 

This goes out to Shabs, B/A and the rest of the very confused liberals that just can't seem to grasp that the last 8 years were a sham and POTUS Trump is doing what he can even with all the Opposition from both sides of the isle.

 

 

Karsten

 

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Every person who has opposed the release of this MEMO and had read it, is now considered deep-state and should be investigated for Obstruction of Justice...everyone who opposes it going forward is hereby guilty of Obstruction of Justice. Everyone called out in the Memo is under suspicion of Treason.

 

 

Indy 

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump and his supporters are using a congressional memo alleging FBI surveillance abuse to raise questions about the origins of a federal investigation into his campaign's ties to Russia. But the four-page document includes revelations that might complicate the effort to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller's ongoing probe.

The document contends that the FBI relied excessively on an ex-British spy whose opposition research was funded by Democrats when it applied for a surveillance warrant on a Trump campaign associate. Yet it also says the investigation into potential Trump ties to Russia actually began several months earlier — "triggered," it says, by information involving a separate campaign aide.

The spy who compiled the allegations admitted to having strong anti-Trump sentiments, but he was not a random find for the bureau. Rather, he was a "longtime FBI source" with a credible track record, says the memo from the House intelligence committee's Republican chairman, Rep. Devin Nunes, and his staff.

The warrant authorizing the FBI to monitor the communications of campaign adviser Carter Page? Approved by a judge on four occasions, according to the memo, and signed off on by Trump's hand-picked deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein.

Without the underlying materials being made public, the memo only further intensified a partisan battle over how to interpret the actions of the FBI and Justice Department during the early stages of the counterintelligence investigation Mueller later inherited.

"Having decided to cherry-pick, the Nunes team picked a bunch of the wrong cherries for its own narrative," Matthew Waxman, a Columbia University professor and former Bush administration official, wrote in an email.

The memo, released over the objections of the FBI and Justice Department, could well give Trump and Republicans new grounds to challenge the Mueller investigation as politically tainted. Even before its declassification Friday, Trump had been telling confidants he believed the document would validate his concerns that the FBI and Justice Department conspired against him.

The central allegation is that agents and prosecutors, in applying in October 2016 to monitor the communications of campaign adviser Carter Page, concealed from a judge that a former spy whose findings had provided grounds for suspicion had been funded by Hillarious Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

That omission is important, Republicans say, because a judge should have known that "political actors" were involved in allegations that led the Justice Department to believe Page might be an agent of a foreign power — something he has consistently and strenuously denied.

Research from former spy Christopher Steele, according to the memo, "formed an essential part" of the application to receive the warrant, though It's unclear how much or what information he collected was included in the application, or how much has been corroborated.

Steele's opposition research effort was initially funded by the conservative Washington Free Beacon. It was later picked up by the Clinton campaign and the DNC through a Washington law firm

The FBI this week expressed "grave concerns" about the memo and called it inaccurate and incomplete. Democrats called it a set of cherry-picked claims aimed at smearing law enforcement and said its release will do long-term damage to the law enforcement and intelligence communities.

For one thing, Democrats say, it's misleading to say a judge was not told of the potential political motivations of the people paying for Steele's research.

Beyond that, though, the memo confirms the FBI's counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign began in July 2016 — months before the surveillance warrant was even sought — and was "triggered" by information concerning a different campaign aide, George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty last year to lying to the FBI and is cooperating with Mueller's investigation.

The timing makes clear that other Trump associates beyond Page, who was part of the election effort for only a short period and was not in the president's inner orbit, had generated law enforcement scrutiny. The memo also omits that Page had been on the FBI's radar just a few years earlier as part of a separate counterintelligence investigation into Russian influence.

Though the memo focuses on Page, intelligence committee Democrats wrote in a response, "this ignores the inconvenient fact that the investigation did not begin with, or arise from Christopher Steele or the dossier, and that the investigation would persist on the basis of wholly independent evidence had Christopher Steele never entered the picture."

Other details in the memo could also challenge Republican claims of bias. The warrant requested in October 2016 was subsequently renewed on three additional occasions, meaning that judges approved it four times. And one of the Justice Department officials who approved it was Rosenstein, a Trump appointee.

Trump, who lambasted the FBI and Justice Department on Twitter, was asked later in the day if he was more likely to fire Rosenstein and if he still had confidence in him. The president simply said, "You figure that one out."

Though the document had been classified, since it deals with warrants obtained from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the White House declassified it Friday and sent it to Nunes for immediate release.

The disclosure of the document is extraordinary since it involves details about surveillance of Americans, national security information the government regards as among its most highly classified. Its release is likely to further escalate an intra-government conflict that has divided the White House and Trump's hand-picked law enforcement leaders.

Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray had personally lobbied against the memo's disclosure, arguing it could set a dangerous precedent.

The memo's release also comes amid an ongoing effort by Trump and congressional Republicans to discredit Mueller's investigation, which focuses not only on whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia but also on whether the president sought to obstruct justice.

 

 

 

The republicans should be careful when they turn over rocks... There are many slimy things living under there. Some they may know up close and personally. JMHO

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Removing some of the passion and emotion from all of this it is pretty clear that there were/are some high level FBI players that felt their own political beliefs were above the laws of the land.   They need to go, and in some cases be punished.  The investigation into this "Russia" connection needs to continue and go where it goes. 

 

If Mueller is smart he will follow that trail down the Clinton/DNC rabbit hole .  IMM this whole investigation has been outed for what it really was/is.......an investigation founded on a sham....a fictional report.  Trump has a right to be pissed. 

 

This isn't how America is suppose to work.  Just one more thing to fix. The very secretive FISA courts need to have a closer look.....they rubber stamp 99% of what the FBI brings them.....kind of gives the FBI a bit too much power in IMO

 

There is no doubt that Russia tries to meddle in US elections......or that the US does the same the other way......just how life works......

 

There is also no doubt that this same thing happens within US politics.......look at how the DNC screwed Sanders..........that fix was in.......why isn't that a bigger issue in the States??

 

Could go on and on.........but not now.........hope you all have a fabulous weekend...!!     CL

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12 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

The republicans should be careful when they turn over rocks... There are many slimy things living under there. Some they may know up close and personally. JMHO

B/A

 

I haven't seen anything, anywhere.......with an actual quote on this from the FBI director........it is all "sources"......

 

He did send out a memo to his agents......to carry on despite all the noise.....other wise.........just MSM crap.....like this....

 

FBI Director Opposes Memo Release Because of Inaccuracies, Source Says

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I believe this says official statement....

 

The director of the FBI, longtime Republican Christopher Wray, does not. According to Bloomberg, Wray believes that said memo is full of inaccuracies, and paints a false narrative of the Bureau’s activities. And on Wednesday, the FBI released an official statement saying that it “has grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

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For those who want to lambast the judges of the FISA court need to look at something very carefully. In all cases, it is incumbent on the parties to bring forth evidence, prove the evidence to be valid and have a judge adjudicate on the evidence presented. It is not the burden of the judge to do research on the evidence. The FISA judge cannot be blamed for granting the warrants when there are omissions in the evidence presented. If every judge had to do research on the evidence presented, maybe on and at the most two cases would get done a year per judge. Thereby even slowing down the judicial system to slower than a fox frozen in a block of ice. The ones who presented evidence and intentionally omitted pertinent information when they knew full well this would dissuade the judge in ruling in favor of the warrant should be disbarred at the least. 

 

11 hours ago, bostonangler said:

I believe this says official statement....

 

The director of the FBI, longtime Republican Christopher Wray, does not. According to Bloomberg, Wray believes that said memo is full of inaccuracies, and paints a false narrative of the Bureau’s activities. And on Wednesday, the FBI released an official statement saying that it “has grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

So the kettle is calling the pot black? The Leadership of the FBI omitted many facts in obtaining the FISA warrant and now they want to say the memo which is has been said to be only 15% of the whole story has many omissions. Hmm. First this investigation cannot be detailed fully in a four page memo. Second, this is a synopsis not a diatribe of the findings. If everything were to be laid out, meaning no omissions and everything put on the table, then this memo would not be a memo but would resemble and surpass the works of Ulysses' War and Peace novel. This was never to be a final conclusion but merely a synopsis of finding of fact thus far. Again this only 15% of the findings thus far, so I guess 85% has been omitted, right? And there will be no more releases right? Good grief, Charlie Brown.

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[Statement of fact]: 1 FISA Warrant, and 3 renewals of that same warrant were approved solely because of the Trump Dossier and because of withholding exculpatory evidence around the fact that the Dossier was bought and paid for by the DNC.

 

If the statement above does not draw concern for you and the abuse of power that was knowingly exhibited by the DOJ, FBI, then you are hopeless and cannot be helped. This is clear evidence of one party in power, THE DEMOCRATS, actively weaponizing the US Government to influence and thwart the election of DJT. But yet in the same breath, THE DEMOCRATS are claiming DJT colluded with the Russians to steal the ELECTION.

 

This is the most Ba$$ Ackwards alternate reality that has ever been displayed for the American public. Geez!!! 

Indy

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21 minutes ago, Indraman said:

[Statement of fact]: 1 FISA Warrant, and 3 renewals of that same warrant were approved solely because of the Trump Dossier and because of withholding exculpatory evidence around the fact that the Dossier was bought and paid for by the DNC.

 

If the statement above does not draw concern for you and the abuse of power that was knowingly exhibited by the DOJ, FBI, then you are hopeless and cannot be helped. This is clear evidence of one party in power, THE DEMOCRATS, actively weaponizing the US Government to influence and thwart the election of DJT. But yet in the same breath, THE DEMOCRATS are claiming DJT colluded with the Russians to steal the ELECTION.

 

This is the most Ba$$ Ackwards alternate reality that has ever been displayed for the American public. Geez!!! 

 

Indy

 

 

Indy

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