bigwave Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) (Natural News) It’s all hogwash. The “official” narrative of how things went down in the Las Vegas massacre is so full of holes that it begs the question of just how deep the truth about this attack really goes. What we know for sure is that, yes, 59 people were killed (so far) and hundreds were wounded. This wasn’t a “hoax” shooting — people actually were shot, wounded and killed (and our prayers go out to all their families for this horrific tragedy). Yet the official narrative that claims Stephen Paddock — a retired, 64-year-old accountant with absolutely no firearms training, no gun experience and no physical stamina — was somehow able to expertly wield a highly complex (and physically demanding) weapon system for 10 sustained minutes is total nonsense. Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space. Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system. Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human super weapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off. Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S. #1: As many as 10 rifles were found in his hotel room… but only one shooter? The NY Daily News is now reporting that Stephen Paddock “brought at least 10 weapons into a Las Vegas hotel room.” Why would a single shooter need 10 rifles? Managing just one full auto weapon system is so difficult that it’s probably beyond the physical capabilities of a 64-year-old retired accountant, which is what Paddock was. The fact that 10 rifles were found in his hotel room says three very important things: The rifles were staged for more than one shooter. The operation was extremely well funded. The attack took a tremendous amount of time to set up, because you don’t just walk 10 rifles up to your hotel room in a single trip. #2: As with many orchestrated shootings, the scapegoat was murdered before he could talk According to numerous media reports, Paddock was found dead in his hotel room, shot to death. The official narrative claims that he shot himself before the police breached the room, but that is an assumption, not an established fact. There is no evidence whatsoever that Paddock shot himself. It is simply assumed that he did so. I would ask to see the ballistics evidence of the shot that killed him. Isn’t it all convenient? There’s no one left to question, and they don’t even have to drug the guy into oblivion like they did the Aurora, Colorado shooter named James Holmes. Eliminating the scapegoat is the oldest trick in the book, as we were all reminded with the shooting of JFK. #3: Why are there no muzzle flashes visible from the 32nd-floor Mandalay Bay windows in any of the videos that captured the shooting? If you look at the shooting videos that have been posted online, none of them show any muzzle flashes from the room on the 32nd floor that we’ve been told is the source of the shooting. How can that be? The following video captures the sound of the automatic weapons fire — and even appears to capture at least TWO weapons firing simultaneously — yet shows no muzzle flashes from the 32nd floor windows of the Mandalay Bay hotel. In fact, the video below shows what might be muzzle flashes from a completely different location closer to the 5th floor. This same video also appears to show someone resembling Stephen Paddock attending an anti-Trump rally, wearing a so-called “pu##y hat” that was very popular among anti-Trumpsters. One working theory is that Paddock is an anti-Trump Leftist who specifically chose a Country Western event in order to murder as many conservatives as possible. #5: ISIS has openly claimed responsibility for the attack, stating that Paddock “converted to Islam” months earlier As reported on Shootings.news, ISIS has already claimed responsibility for the Las Vegas shooting: Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed at least 50 people and wounded over 400 in Las Vegas early on Monday, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago. ISIS has a long track record of only claiming responsibility for events they inspired or planned. It would not be in the interests of ISIS to falsely claim credit for an attack they did not help carry out, as that would discredit their own supporters and funding sources. #6: Stephen Paddock had no familiarity with automatic weapons and no military training; was not a “gun guy” From Yahoo News: Saying his family was in shock, Paddock’s brother told US media he could not understand what motivated his elder brother. “Where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He has no military background or anything like that,” Eric Paddock told CBS News. “He’s a guy who lived in a house in Mesquite, drove down and gambled in Las Vegas. He did stuff. Eat burritos.” And from NY Daily News: Eric said his brother was typically no fan of such weaponry. “Not an avid gun guy at all,” Eric Paddock told CBS News outside his home in Waterford Lakes, Fla. #7: How does a 64-year-old accountant with no military training possess the strength and stamina to fire a fully automatic weapon for nearly 10 minutes? People who aren’t familiar with firearms have no idea how difficult it is to conduct sustained fire with an automatic weapon. It requires tremendous strength, endurance and training — something that Stephen Paddock had none of. Military special forces operatives train for years to be able to manage such weapons and handle all the problems they pose (barrel overheating, ammo jams, double feeds, recoil management, etc.). The idea that some senior citizen accountant can just pick up a machine gun and lay down thousands of rounds of effective fire in a sustained, 10-minute assault even though he had no experience with such weapons is completely ludicrous. It actually looks like someone else staged all the guns in the room, perhaps with Paddock’s willingness, then shot and killed Paddock to make him the scapegoat. Numerous media reports confirm that Paddock had no familiarity with guns and certainly didn’t have any experience with automatic weapons. Via the UK Daily Mail: Despite being found amid an arsenal of weapons, Eric said that his brother had never been ‘an avid gun guy at all’, adding that he was at a loss as to where Stephen got his arsenal of automatic weapons from. #8: Stephen Paddock was gambling away huge amounts of cash… where did he get all that money? According to NBC News, Paddock was engaged in high-stakes gambling to the tune of as much as $30,000 per day: On several occasions, Stephen Paddock gambled more than $10,000 per day — and in some cases more than than $20,000 and $30,000 a day — at Las Vegas casinos, according to an NBC News source who read the suspect’s Multiple Currency Transaction Reports (CTR) and a casino gaming executive. Was he paid to be part of an operation that would then be blamed on him by making him the scapegoat? Some media reports state that Paddock was a wealthy real estate investor. If that’s true, why would he blow all that wealth on gambling? #9: Stephen Paddock has no criminal history, no record and no apparent beef with anybody Further supporting the notion that Stephen Paddock was a scapegoat for all this, Via NY Daily News: …Paddock had no federal, state or local history with law enforcement before his Sunday night rampage that left 58 dead and more than 500 injured. “We had no knowledge of this individual,” said Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo. “We checked all the databases…” From the UK Daily Mail, we learn that Paddock had no affiliation with any particular activist group, political group or religious group as far as anyone knows: “…He added that his brother had ‘no political affiliation, no religious affiliation, as far as we know.” #10: The attack required meticulous planning, funding and training… it wasn’t some lone senior citizen who just “snapped” What’s clear from this attack is that it was planned, funded and coordinated. This was not some spontaneous “lone wolf” scenario; it involved multiple weapons being fired simultaneously, long-term planning, staging and financial logistics. The official narrative that claims this retired accountant just “snapped” and somehow picked up an automatic rifle and expertly laid down highly effective fields of automatic weapons fire for 10 minutes without pause is so insanely stupid as to be laughable. Only a highly-trained weapons expert with tremendous physical strength, stamina and training could have pulled this off. And that’s clearly not Stephen Paddock. #11: How was the FBI able to almost immediately declare Paddock had no ties to ISIS — barely 12 hours after the shooting — when the same agency has spent over a year investigating President Trump with zero evidence linking him to Russia, all while refusing to declare Trump has no ties to Russia? Finally, don’t you find it amazing how the FBI was able to clear any ISIS connection in less than 12 hours after the shooting? This is the same FBI, remember, that has spent over a year desperately trying to find a Russia conspiracy link to President Trump, yet has been unable to do with any legitimate evidence whatsoever. Yet more than year into their investigation, they refuse to clear President Trump of Russia collusion. Isn’t that interesting? Somehow, the FBI is so amazingly effective and efficient that they can conclude a massive investigation of Stephen Paddock in a mere 12 hours, yet they never quite seem to complete their investigation of President Trump. Keep asking questions, everyone. And stay informed on all this at Shootings.news. https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html Edited October 4, 2017 by bigwave added credits 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indraman Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 "How was the FBI able to almost immediately declare Paddock had no ties to ISIS — barely 12 hours after the shooting — when the same agency has spent over a year investigating President Trump with zero evidence linking him to Russia, all while refusing to declare Trump has no ties to Russia?" This is the million dollar question. I am not a big conspiracy theorist, but this was rather puzzling to me that they could so quickly discount the claim in the ISIS connection. Indy 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Not intended for you Indy, for your's is a valid question.....as for the rest of it, not so much. If a man, or woman for that matter, has enough strength to lift a weapon to a resting position, aims at a 1000 foot wide +/- target, 32 stories in a downward direction, using modified weapons that deliver endless rounds with one squeeze.....to me, the physical fitness of the shooter is negligible....not to mention the added energy adrenaline and unfounded crazy brings to the situation. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickgold Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) All great points Indraman. Who's to say this is true or false. I just know what I feel and that is I don't trust the media's information that is being brought forth. The public has been deceived many times with misinformation, and speculation that is given in a rush to keep their ratings up to par. It all seems wishy washy that this individual would do such a horrific action. There are some holes in this situation that doesn't fit this individuals actions. I'm thinking this man was innocent or framed.... should of been innocent until proven guilty. The media has fried him all ready. I wonder have they interviewed any of the surrounding tenants near his room, what have they've said? Shabs on your thoughts, it seems it could very well be accurate. It makes you wonder indeed. Edited October 4, 2017 by patrickgold 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texstorm Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Clearly there are no answers yet but I would like to see all ballistics matched with ever gun found in the room. If there are some that don't match then there are more questions to arise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, Texstorm said: Clearly there are no answers yet but I would like to see all ballistics matched with ever gun found in the room. If there are some that don't match then there are more questions to arise. Ballistics is a fantastic plan, as I'm sure that's exactly what law enforcement will attempt to do. The problem arises with people, such as the Alex Jones cult following types, that simply won't accept any conclusion other than a conspiracy, same as the twin towers, sandyhook, every dead person in the Clinton universe. etc, etc, etc. The Alt-Right is a living example of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".....they keep piling on with every horrific occurrence that comes down the pike, subsequently losing more and more credibility with each incident. The only one who wins is Alex Jones and his bank account. GO RV, then BV 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickgold Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said: Ballistics is a fantastic plan, as I'm sure that's exactly what law enforcement will attempt to do. The problem arises with people, such as the Alex Jones cult following types, that simply won't accept any conclusion other than a conspiracy, same as the twin towers, sandyhook, every dead person in the Clinton universe. etc, etc, etc. The Alt-Right is a living example of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".....they keep piling on with every horrific occurrence that comes down the pike, subsequently losing more and more credibility with each incident. The only one who wins is Alex Jones and his bank account. GO RV, then BV No winners here when innocent lives are taken from their families and love ones. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, patrickgold said: No winners here when innocent lives are taken from their families and love ones. True words, Patrick. No winners. GO RV, then BV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, patrickgold said: No winners here when innocent lives are taken from their families and love ones. We all concur on that one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 There are many reports of the guy setting up cameras and filming this from the hotel room....would like to see the video of him doing it.....this would quell the thoughts of whether he could or could not do it alone 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdude Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: Not intended for you Indy, for your's is a valid question.....as for the rest of it, not so much. If a man, or woman for that matter, has enough strength to lift a weapon to a resting position, aims at a 1000 foot wide +/- target, 32 stories in a downward direction, using modified weapons that deliver endless rounds with one squeeze.....to me, the physical fitness of the shooter is negligible....not to mention the added energy adrenaline and unfounded crazy brings to the situation. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV I do have to agree with you on this one. an AR15 with a bump stock - which is what I understand these were, as there was multiple- weighs in at less than 10 lbs. Being a .223 caliber, the recoil is pretty small. It's not a true automatic weapon. Handling one - or bouncing to others once empty - would not be super physically taxing. As for muzzle flashes - any one conversant with this style of weapon knows they have a flash suppressor. It is designed to lessen that muzzle flash and help control muzzler ise at the same time. Speaking from experience as an Infantryman who has been on a "2 way rifle range" - muzzle flashes are actually hard to see in urban terrain. All he would need to do is stand back from the window a couple of feet and it would almost impossible to see unless your looking straight on. As for the room being so full of smoke and powder - well - if you read the reports, that's what gave his position away. The smoke alarm in the room went off. As for the number of weapons in his room - remember he had checked in 3 days before. Plenty of time to make multiple trips. I also understand he checked in with 10 pieces of luggage - which is not uncommon in Las Vegas. Probably never would have raised an eyebrow. The whole gambling and money thing - may have been a factor - but he had the money. He owne 2 airplanes, for heavens sake. Tells you what kind of pocketbook he was working with. II'm not condoning what happened - we can all agree it was a tragedy. I'm just trying to show the conspiracy people that with a little - very little- planninge he could have pulled this off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, tankdude said: I do have to agree with you on this one. an AR15 with a bump stock - which is what I understand these were, as there was multiple- weighs in at less than 10 lbs. Being a .223 caliber, the recoil is pretty small. It's not a true automatic weapon. Handling one - or bouncing to others once empty - would not be super physically taxing. As for muzzle flashes - any one conversant with this style of weapon knows they have a flash suppressor. It is designed to lessen that muzzle flash and help control muzzler ise at the same time. Speaking from experience as an Infantryman who has been on a "2 way rifle range" - muzzle flashes are actually hard to see in urban terrain. All he would need to do is stand back from the window a couple of feet and it would almost impossible to see unless your looking straight on. As for the room being so full of smoke and powder - well - if you read the reports, that's what gave his position away. The smoke alarm in the room went off. As for the number of weapons in his room - remember he had checked in 3 days before. Plenty of time to make multiple trips. I also understand he checked in with 10 pieces of luggage - which is not uncommon in Las Vegas. Probably never would have raised an eyebrow. The whole gambling and money thing - may have been a factor - but he had the money. He owne 2 airplanes, for heavens sake. Tells you what kind of pocketbook he was working with. II'm not condoning what happened - we can all agree it was a tragedy. I'm just trying to show the conspiracy people that with a little - very little- planninge he could have pulled this off. Once again, tank.....you expressed plainly and concisely that which I could not accurately describe. I believe your assessment is spot on as usual. Thanks GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Hopefully Truth will make its way to the People and not be covered / suffocated / killed for good.....Hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdude Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Oh - forgot to mention it appears he alternated firing from the 2 windows in the room - and the rifles were also modified to take extended magazines. Depending on the type ( he had several different models) those would be anywhere from 60 - 100 round magazines. Judging from what I'm reading, he probably dumped close to 1,000 rounds into that arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Thank you TankDude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJinMontreal Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: Ballistics is a fantastic plan, as I'm sure that's exactly what law enforcement will attempt to do. The problem arises with people, such as the Alex Jones cult following types, that simply won't accept any conclusion other than a conspiracy, same as the twin towers, sandyhook, every dead person in the Clinton universe. etc, etc, etc. The Alt-Right is a living example of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".....they keep piling on with every horrific occurrence that comes down the pike, subsequently losing more and more credibility with each incident. The only one who wins is Alex Jones and his bank account. GO RV, then BV One doesn't have to be a conspiracy person to know that airplane fuel won't collapse two buildings that were built to withstand the impact of an airliner!!! And the Treasury building with a small carpet fire. Let's not forget the day before, Rumsfeld had mentioned they couldn't account for $2.3 trillion in defense spending and the investigators of that missing money were working in the line of fire of the "airplane / missile" that hit the Pentagon. A direct hit on the department doing the investigation!!! https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-september-11-financial-heist-follow-the-911-money-trail/5475639 I get that you don't like Alex Jones - but you really need to stop listening to the Lame Stream News!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, BJinMontreal said: One doesn't have to be a conspiracy person to know that airplane fuel won't collapse two buildings that were built to withstand the impact of an airliner!!! And the Treasury building with a small carpet fire. Let's not forget the day before, Rumsfeld had mentioned they couldn't account for $2.3 trillion in defense spending and the investigators of that missing money were working in the line of fire of the "airplane / missile" that hit the Pentagon. A direct hit on the department doing the investigation!!! https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-september-11-financial-heist-follow-the-911-money-trail/5475639 I get that you don't like Alex Jones - but you really need to stop listening to the Lame Stream News!!! Again with the cherry picked youtube videos? Perhaps you should do some research on the towers themselves and the goal of reaching new heights at minimum weight and cost. GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJinMontreal Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: Again with the cherry picked youtube videos? Perhaps you should do some research on the towers themselves and the goal of reaching new heights at minimum weight and cost. GO RV, then BV No research necessary ... I have a civil engineering degree ... You know structural design? Factors of safety and all that fun stuff!!!! You're continued opinion that a super structure could implode on itself is just your biased belief in whatever the government tells you to believe!!! If that was *not* a controlled implosion then I have no clue what the odds would be for not one; not two; but THREE structures to all free fall onto their foundations in one day must out of this world ... and one wasn't even hit by a plane!!! Any structure that topples due to mechanical or structural defect will not fall on itself, but will be impacted by debris and obstacles on the way down affecting it's path of travel ... All in my learned opinion, of course!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 I still have way to many questions about this whole incident......Pictures that are coming out now are showing AR-15 Platforms with muzzle breaks rather than Flash Hiders....Muzzle Breaks toss a Fire Ball to either side of the Barrel where a Flash Hider does just that. Vortex Flash Hider on my 14.5 inch barrel. Pic's are showing Rifles with Bi pods....Why, he was on the 32 floor shooting down. 100 round mags that I have never seen anyone empty with out multiple FTF.....100 Round Dual Drum mags were getting better but still a lot of issues........Nor does anyone have stock of any of them. Mounting point of the Vertical Fore Grip in one pic is way to far forward. Same rifle has a EoTech Red Dot Sight which would be useless at the distant he was shooting.....Spray and Pray, why do you even have a sight to start with? Another picture with a AR Platform again with a Bi Pod and a Scope.....Bump Fire Stock is going to make a Scope Useless. Where are the Brass Cases.....Appears to be 30 or so scattered here and there where that should be 1000 plus and melted into the carpet in piles. Still way to many questions to chock this up to One Deranged Liberal, Antifa Supporting Trump Hater. Just my Thoughts Karsten 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Follow the money is the best place to start any investigation...by asking the question "Who Benefits"? Good thing is many more folks are thinking critically and reluctant to accept official narratives and the spin placed upon these events. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I think within the next 24-48 hours the picture of this story will clear up.....perhaps surprising a few.....JMO....as always...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 ok so i am seeing some faces of the victims tonight on social media...just pictures...anyone else find it strange that after 59 deaths there are no families stepping forward talking about their loved ones...only these pictures with names....IDK struck me tonight...no interviews with victims families Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 ok one more thing...the broken window are REALLY far apart...that was a HUGE room???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 20 hours ago, SnowGlobe7 said: ok one more thing...the broken window are REALLY far apart...that was a HUGE room???? Snow.......this link may help you with some of your questions.......pretty detailed info....a couple of kind of graphic pictures.........so just be aware..... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4944234/Two-23-rifles-inside-Stephen-Paddock-s-room.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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