Deb45 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Lets say the budget is finally passed in every way shape and form with no exceptions. It's a Done Deal. What if, God forbid, that the RV/RI doesn't happen any time soon. What else could possibly be holding it up? Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I remember when we were saying after they get out of chp 6 it will happen, then it was when they were out of ch7, then it was HCL. Just hope that we don't find out that now we have to wait yet again for something else to happen before an RV/RI. ??? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymrat76541 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 That my friend is the million dollar question. Guess that's why this is called an "Investment". Just like poker; Never bet what you can not afford to lose! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yendor Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I've gotten to the point where I don't expect the RV/RI to EVER happen, so that if/when it happens I'll be super excited. And if it DOESN'T happen, then there will be no disappointment. But, I will ALWAYS hold on to my Dinar....... just in case. Happy New Year !!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasspark Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Can you decoupage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v-star 650 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 yes I think yendor is on the right track , { as for do not expect it tomorrow , } and live today like it will be the last day ! and if it happens whooo hooooo !! ------------ have you thought -------- that when this hits , and you exchanged , and are back home ..... what feelings will come next ? the excitement of finished , and money , the instant feeling of ---- now what can I do with the friends I use to talk too ? wonder what the dinar vetters are doing now ? ---------- but really with the way oil has been going up and down mostly down now ,,,, what are the back room deals { that could be going on } what are they trying to do ? they keep putting exurbanite amounts too the budget balances , how does this move the pointer forward ? say 20 trillion owed , will they make the dinar 2 per 1 dollar value and cut the amount owed too 10 trillion ? or could this even work ? how much push too shove will the normal Iraqi people have too deal with ? I truly think 2015 will show something , but I am not sure what exactly that will be now ........ all I can do is hold tight and hope this rolls out very high amount over .25 cents 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedomwish Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Lets say the budget is finally passed in every way shape and form with no exceptions. It's a Done Deal. What if, God forbid, that the RV/RI doesn't happen any time soon. What else could possibly be holding it up? Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I remember when we were saying after they get out of chp 6 it will happen, then it was when they were out of ch7, then it was HCL. Just hope that we don't find out that now we have to wait yet again for something else to happen before an RV/RI. ??? Deb45 my dear, we're all feeling anxious and excited throughout these recent exciting times for the Dinar - as others expressed here, you'll have to look at this opportunity in a way that it could happen, or not at all. Just like being in Vegas. Truly hope something happens this year 2015 indeed, but I feel we still have ways to go. Best of luck to you. Freedomwish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djorgie Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Hi Deb, Well, it is my opinion that the budget has absolutely nothing to do with a RV... and why people keep pushing this is beyond me. The past budgets that were completed had no affect on a RV did they? So, why would this one make any difference? Yes, it would be nice if they got it done so they could move forward with other things but, it in no way constitutes a revaluation of the Iraqi dinar IMO. I also don't believe there is anything "holding" it up. It's just a matter of them DOING it. Of course it would be nice and especially for us outside of iraq if the dinar were an international currency, however, at this point in time it still is not. I don't thin\k it is a single thing or a combination of things that actually result in a RV, but the things that have already been done and implemented and maybe more things to come could definitely pave the road and make it smoother if you will. None of us have the answers... it's all a guessing game really... and just remember that when people come setting dates, rates, deals and saying that it WILL happen right after this is done, they need to be steered clear of. They are simply not being honset with you. I personally, will not get excited until Adam send the confirmation and we have actual, tangeable evidence that it is indeed the case. Edited January 7, 2015 by Djorgie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb45 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Thanks all, We've been very blessed and are not in dire financial need. We made our initial investment in the dinar years ago but only what we were willing to lose. No big deal. Since then I've been squirreling away spare change and after several months of collecting it I add it all up and buy dinar with it. I figured its not money we would miss. You'd be surprised how much spare change adds up to. I don't hang on every word everyone posts. Just wondering. I guess you go through stages, just like mourning. You're excited when you hear about the dinar, you study up on it, you buy it, start going thru all the scenarios of what you will do with it when it RV's. You get anxious because it hasn't happened, You get mad because of all the smoke & BS you read, Then you get numb and complacent. Then you get pessimistic that it ever will happen. I do believe in my heart of hearts it will happen but the thrill is fading. Lately I've been keeping up with it a little bit more because it seems like e few times a week there are major accomplishments toward it. Dare I say.... soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose 57 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I don't think the blame is on God in any way, shape, or form. jmo Edited January 8, 2015 by moose 57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb45 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Of course not, Never said it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose 57 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 sorry, I think I read it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskyline Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 If nothing else happens ...............Which I completely doubt happens . We know the ISX , ESX and other areas are still sure fire places to invest and make boatloads of money when the time comes . The knowledge gained from this site is invaluable and the people are Priceless . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb45 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Wish I knew more about how to do that sort of investing on the ESX & ISX. Greek to me. or Arabic should I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artitech Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Couldn't have said better Deb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Artitech Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 What If, a elephant had wings? He would be a hellova big Bird! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francie26 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 People keep saying "Never bet what you can't afford to lose," but I would not be in this at all if I had followed that principle. I was on my last financial go-round and I knew it. The bottom had dropped out of my 401K, and I had been forced to sell my house and was moving in with my daughter, and as wonderful as she is, I wanted my own home, not hers. But when the dust settled, I had a small amount of money left. That's when I got a phone call from my sister in California telling me about the dinar. So I spent the last money I had to get into this, which based on everything I can discern, is still quite a bit of money. I knew that, eventually, my money would disappear, most likely in small, untraceable increments, a few dollars spent here and a few more there. Whatever happens in the future, my "investment" in dinar has been the one thing that has kept giving me hope that my life wouldn't always be like this, that the future would be better, at least financially. Maybe it won't be. Maybe I will always have to live at what feels to me like the edge of poverty. If so: so be it. But never tell me my dreams are not worth that relatively "small" investment which, by any normal investment standards, I couldn't afford to lose. I can believe my life will become what I want it to be someday only because I own several thousand dinars. So sometimes the best platitudes simply don't answer to all needs, plans, hopes, dreams, etc. I don't need dinar. But I sorely need the dreams and hopes that my ownership of dinar has given me. Even if I lose it all, I will have had something that kept my life on an even keel during a difficult, painful time when I had nothing else. Of course, I hope to become a millionaire+ with this, but even if I don't, it has been a huge possibility during a difficult time when I had nothing else to hold onto. It's true--I can't afford to lose this money, but even more, I can't afford to ever in my lifetime look back and wish I'd had the courage to spend the last few thousand dollars I owned on something that kept hope alive for me when I had nothing else. Money is only money. But hope is everything. What price is that worth? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHyperLinker Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 yes I think yendor is on the right track , { as for do not expect it tomorrow , } and live today like it will be the last day ! and if it happens whooo hooooo !! ------------ have you thought -------- that when this hits , and you exchanged , and are back home ..... what feelings will come next ? the excitement of finished , and money , the instant feeling of ---- now what can I do with the friends I use to talk too ? wonder what the dinar vetters are doing now ? ---------- but really with the way oil has been going up and down mostly down now ,,,, what are the back room deals { that could be going on } what are they trying to do ? they keep putting exurbanite amounts too the budget balances , how does this move the pointer forward ? say 20 trillion owed , will they make the dinar 2 per 1 dollar value and cut the amount owed too 10 trillion ? or could this even work ? how much push too shove will the normal Iraqi people have too deal with ? I truly think 2015 will show something , but I am not sure what exactly that will be now ........ all I can do is hold tight and hope this rolls out very high amount over .25 cents On that speculaation, I would love it to RV at .39. Hence I could trade in one "note"(25,000 Dinar) per year and wait till they get tired of saying "tomorrow" for my trip to never-never land. I would be $25 under the dreaded $10,000 IRS ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivesman Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Francie, I believe it depends on your definition of "what you can afford". YOU could NOT afford to NOT invest in your HOPES and your FAITH. For; Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11.1 I invested money that, like you, I knew would be spent, some frivolously some not so much, perhaps. But had I not speculated, I would possibly be a greeter at Walmart one day. I believe it was worth the price if only for the education. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgabrielie Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Lets say the budget is finally passed in every way shape and form with no exceptions. It's a Done Deal. What if, God forbid, that the RV/RI doesn't happen any time soon. What else could possibly be holding it up? Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I remember when we were saying after they get out of chp 6 it will happen, then it was when they were out of ch7, then it was HCL. Just hope that we don't find out that now we have to wait yet again for something else to happen before an RV/RI. ??? Yeah this investment is like "Watching Paint Dry" or your TV soap opera and is getting very boring to me. You can step back for a month and when you come back, nothing much has changed. I just packed my dinar away. Even if it does come out at a dime, it will take a long time before it would be worth it to cash in. So .... have patience or don't. It's an individuals choice. Me, I don't after over four years. That's why I have moved on to other things.This one is on remote control now that I have put into place everything I can. Nothing left for me to do. I like the friends I have made here and keep in contact with them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHyperLinker Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 People keep saying "Never bet what you can't afford to lose," but I would not be in this at all if I had followed that principle. I was on my last financial go-round and I knew it. The bottom had dropped out of my 401K, and I had been forced to sell my house and was moving in with my daughter, and as wonderful as she is, I wanted my own home, not hers. But when the dust settled, I had a small amount of money left. That's when I got a phone call from my sister in California telling me about the dinar. So I spent the last money I had to get into this, which based on everything I can discern, is still quite a bit of money. I knew that, eventually, my money would disappear, most likely in small, untraceable increments, a few dollars spent here and a few more there. Whatever happens in the future, my "investment" in dinar has been the one thing that has kept giving me hope that my life wouldn't always be like this, that the future would be better, at least financially. Maybe it won't be. Maybe I will always have to live at what feels to me like the edge of poverty. If so: so be it. But never tell me my dreams are not worth that relatively "small" investment which, by any normal investment standards, I couldn't afford to lose. I can believe my life will become what I want it to be someday only because I own several thousand dinars. So sometimes the best platitudes simply don't answer to all needs, plans, hopes, dreams, etc. I don't need dinar. But I sorely need the dreams and hopes that my ownership of dinar has given me. Even if I lose it all, I will have had something that kept my life on an even keel during a difficult, painful time when I had nothing else. Of course, I hope to become a millionaire+ with this, but even if I don't, it has been a huge possibility during a difficult time when I had nothing else to hold onto. It's true--I can't afford to lose this money, but even more, I can't afford to ever in my lifetime look back and wish I'd had the courage to spend the last few thousand dollars I owned on something that kept hope alive for me when I had nothing else. Money is only money. But hope is everything. What price is that worth? You are so "right on" Francie26, that I am sending sending this to my loving wife who keeps having anxioty attacts over my wishful thinking. I still have a lot to give the world and my family and I am not a quitter. I would love to go to Iraq's Marsh-lands to help restore the "Garden of Eden" (that Sadam destroyed) because I know what it takes (Permaculture, Bio-Char and EM-1). I have given up on wanting a farm in America(have you read the new FDA laws taking effect now - crippeling). (And this is my 99th post. Yahoo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badrabbit Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 You know I have been disgusted with the Guru BS for a long time (years and years), I used to be one of the fools that believed in every word that some of the Guru's said because people would not lie to you would they?...certainly not every day!!!, I learned the hard way to not lean on every word (or any) that spewed from any Guru's mouths. I did get into this investment by my own will, I have not lost any money-like in the stock market (back then). I believe in my heart that some day the Country of Iraq will return to there own Currency and Being a Muslim Country they would want to get off the "Infidel's" money. so I do have confidence that this Investment will be fruitful someday, and I feel someday in the near future (notice I did not say soon;). We investors are in a good spot, have confidence, there will always be those people who say we are fools for believing in this but after the RI or RV happens these people will also be the ones knocking on our NEW front doors with there hands out! Thinking about how to responsibly improve my life and those who deserve it around Me have given me uncounted hours of happiness. P.S. you know I am ALREADY a Millionaire ! --an Iraqi Millionaire;) -Grin- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbuse984 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Remember that the CEO of IBM at the time just before the advent of the personal computer stated something along these lines: "who would want a computer in their home" ...lol...it has been an interesting but fun ride, wouldn't change a thing though because you have to have hope and dreams in life, and my wife said when I got into this "hey, that's just crazy enough that it might work" and told me to go for it...personally, I think the HCL and some esoteric economic laws are needed and more important that the 2015 budget...I just think it will break one day and be big news and we here on DV will be all Cheshire cat grins (insert SG7 pic here...lol...) As the Brits would say "Keep Calm and Carry On" ... that's my philosophy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artitech Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 That's all we got is Hope, I think, I can safely speak for every member on this site, that we are all hoping for the RV, NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texstorm Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I don't believe that there are any excuses, excuses are what the gurus spout out to cover their sorry lying a.ses. Iraq is a war torn country that's just trying to survive, what we are all banking on is that their natural resources will be exploited and make us rich and hopefully they will have a better life as well. Be it in the name of GOD, be it in the name of riches, be it in the name of, we all want them to have a nice career,modern roads and bridges,air conditioning,money in the bank, and a six pack of beer ! I really wish them well ! and I really wish to make a considerable profit for floating their CBI for all of these years. Just Saying ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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