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Michigan secretary of state says armed protesters gathered outside her home

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Tim Stelloh
Sun, December 6, 2020, 10:54 PM EST
 
 

Dozens of armed people gathered outside Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's home over the weekend "shouting obscenities" and threatening violence in an effort to overturn the presidential election results in the state, she said Sunday.

Benson and her 4-year-old son had just finished decorating their home for Christmas and were about to watch "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" when the group arrived, she said in a statement.

"The demands made outside my home were unambiguous, loud and threatening," she said. "They targeted me in my role as Michigan's Chief Election Officer.

"Through threats of violence, intimidation and bullying, the armed people outside my home and their political allies seek to undermine and silence the will and voices of every voter in this state, no matter who they voted for," she said.

 

Gabriel Sterling, a top Republican elections official in Georgia, said last week that President Donald Trump's repeated false claims that the election was stolen from him had led to death threats, intimidation and harassment.

Saying the claims have to stop, Sterling called on Trump to "step up" and condemn the threats. But Trump returned to Georgia on Saturday and repeated the baseless assertions.

Michigan's State Board of Canvassers certified the election results for President-elect Joe Biden on Nov. 23. An NBC News projection showed that he defeated Trump by more than 150,000 votes.

Trump and his allies made baseless allegations about irregularities and discrepancies in Detroit's vote tallies and called on the Legislature to name Trump electors, despite Biden's victory.

Trump and other Republicans have also filed nine lawsuits in Michigan, alleging fraud and other irregularities. As of last week, most of the suits had been withdrawn or denied. In one case, a judge described the allegations as "inadmissible hearsay within hearsay."

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-secretary-state-says-armed-035400636.html

 

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11 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I'm sorry, but when you consider the level of integrity that woman has and knowing full well she has a cell phone to take pictures, I'm not buying it without seeing her pics. 

 

Hard to tell with the media and social media in todays world....check this link...go to the facebook live link in it....and research the individual who has the page.....   CL

 

 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/06/michigan-secretary-state-jocelyn-benson-protest-home/3853743001/

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This may or may not be the case.

 

Who knows?.................................

 

The radicalized Left Leaders could be paying protesters under a false guise in an attempt to cast the people who are necessarily demanding the voter fraud be removed in a bad light or pretext for adverse action against tangible and actionable voter fraud removal.

 

I noticed the phrase, "Benson and her 4-year-old son had just finished decorating their home for Christmas and were about to watch "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" when the group arrived, she said in a statement."

 

Interesting the detail here UNLESS THERE IS A FAKE AGENDA BEING PROMOTED.

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USA TODAY

Black Michigan lawmaker posts voicemails of lynching threats in wake of election hearing

 
 
Dave Boucher, Detroit Free Press
Mon, December 7, 2020, 10:34 AM EST
 
 

DETROIT – One caller told Michigan state Rep. Cynthia A. Johnson, D-Detroit, that she should be "swinging from a … rope."

That echoed another call received by Johnson, who is Black, that predicted the lawmaker would be lynched, according to multiple voicemails Johnson posted on her Facebook page.

The calls are some of many threats received by Democratic and Republican lawmakers in Michigan, as President Donald Trump and his allies continue to rely on conspiracy theories – not credible evidence – to argue widespread fraud led to a stolen election.

 

Supporters want lawmakers to step in and award Michigan's electoral votes to Trump, although President-elect Joe Biden earned 154,000 more votes than the president. Legislative leaders have already said they have no role in intervening in the election, but that didn't stop Trump attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis from asking lawmakers to take some action when they appeared at a House Oversight Committee meeting last week.

Johnson is the Democratic minority vice chairwoman of the committee. During the hearing, Giuliani spent hours interviewing his own witnesses, who provided largely uncontested inaccuracies and misinformation about the election.

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Johnson asked only a handful of questions during the hearing – Committee Chairman Matt Hall, R-Emmett Township, limited lawmakers to one question per witness. One question included asking a witness to spell her name, a request some Trump supporters saw as an attempt to "dox" the witness, or publicly reveal information about someone with malicious intent.

Johnson did not ask the witness, Jessy Jacob, to provide contact information. Jacob had already publicly identified herself in an affidavit filed with a lawsuit where she also alleged electoral misconduct.

Many of the allegations presented during the hearing dealt with Detroit; at one point, Giuliani called Detroit one of the most corrupt cities in the country. When Johnson tried to make a statement refuting testimony offered, Hall determined she was out of order and turned off her microphone. Johnson, the only lawmaker who is Black or representing Detroit on the committee, at times yelled after her microphone was turned off.

The hearing garnered national attention, including Saturday Night Live lampooning the hearing to open this weekend's show. Locally, the vast amount of attention is leading to threats.

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Michigan State Police wait in the lobby of the Anderson House Office Building while Rudy Giuliani testifies on election integrity during a Michigan House Oversight Committee hearing on Wednesday, Dec. 2, 2020, in Lansing.
Michigan State Police wait in the lobby of the Anderson House Office Building while Rudy Giuliani testifies on election integrity during a Michigan House Oversight Committee hearing on Wednesday, Dec. 2, 2020, in Lansing.

Johnson did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment. In other Facebook posts, she's noted she's received many calls since the hearing.

Sunday morning, state Rep. Laurie Pohutsky, D-Livonia, tweeted about the threats.

Michigan lawmakers: The threats must stop

There have also been threats made against Republicans, confirmed state House Speaker Lee Chatfield, R-Levering.

"Violent threats against anyone are a stain on our society and unacceptable, especially when that person is just trying to do their job and help people. I and my family have received numerous threats, along with members on both sides of the aisle," Chatfield said Sunday in an emailed statement.

"Whenever a threat is made against a representative and we are made aware, we contact our House sergeants and the Michigan State Police so they can look into its credibility, stay alert and prepare for any possible situation.”

Trump asked Chatfield and state Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, to attend a White House meeting after the election in November. While many feared the president would try to strongarm the legislative leaders into taking legislative action to undermine the will of Michigan voters, the legislators have repeatedly said they will respect the current process set out in Michigan law.

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The president undermined the lawmakers' statements after the meeting though, saying and tweeting many times after the meeting that fraud would be found in Michigan. Neither his legal team nor anyone else has presented any evidence of widespread elections fraud in the state.

Other elections officials in other states have also received threats. A Georgia elections official, a Republican, recently called on Trump to stop spreading misinformation and to condemn attacks made on elections workers. During a visit to Georgia Saturday, Trump blasted elected leaders in the state for not bending to his will.

The threats and attacks must stop, said Michigan House Minority Leader Christine Greig, D-Farmington Hills.

“There is no place in our political process for intimidation or threats of violence against elected officials, our families and loved ones. Following this hard fought election, we must lower temperature and return civility to our political discourse," Greig said in a statement emailed Sunday.

“With the increasing severity of the most recent threats of violence and intimidation, our caucus will be working in concert with law enforcement authorities to address our security throughout the lame duck session.”

Michigan lawmakers are set to meet in session for two more weeks this month. The Capitol has seen its fair share of protests this year, including several rallies where some people brought guns inside the statehouse.

The threats come two months after state and federal law enforcement revealed an alleged plot to kidnap and kill Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

On Dec. 14, Democratic delegates to the Electoral College will cast Michigan's 16 votes for Biden. He will assume the presidency in January.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/black-michigan-lawmaker-posts-voicemails-150234652.html

 

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the mob, if real, should have drug her out and hung her and burned her house down on the charge of criminal tampering with a federal election. The same for all these states where this happened. 

Make no mistake. This is war. 

After all. The left pushed the mobs to burn down cities across the country and nothing was done to stop it.

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1 hour ago, markb57 said:

the mob, if real, should have drug her out and hung her and burned her house down on the charge of criminal tampering with a federal election. The same for all these states where this happened. 

Make no mistake. This is war. 

After all. The left pushed the mobs to burn down cities across the country and nothing was done to stop it.

Mob action?  That's where you are going?  I hope you are just venting.  That's good for no one. Any one could end up on the wrong end of that for any reason. 

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actually, I would love for President Trump to declare Marshall Law, Suspend Habeas Corpus and the Constitution and send federal troops to arrest all these corrupt governors and SOS's. Actually have a true and correct investigation into all this voter fraud.

 

And if that fails, go back to mob rule. Yes Cranman. Federal election tampering is a valid reason.

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7 hours ago, Synopsis said:

This may or may not be the case.

 

Who knows?.................................

 

The radicalized Left Leaders could be paying protesters under a false guise in an attempt to cast the people who are necessarily demanding the voter fraud be removed in a bad light or pretext for adverse action against tangible and actionable voter fraud removal.

 

I noticed the phrase, "Benson and her 4-year-old son had just finished decorating their home for Christmas and were about to watch "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" when the group arrived, she said in a statement."

 

Interesting the detail here UNLESS THERE IS A FAKE AGENDA BEING PROMOTED.

 

You got me thinking....thank you.....

 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/06/protesters-jocelyn-bensons-home-after-dark-oppose-certification/3850654001/

 

Very few people ....no weapons......security and Blue showed....protestors sang the Star Bangled Banner... officers on scene played it down.....

Official police record made no mention of violence or weapons.....

Seems the MSM over played it..... as did I....  CL

 

 

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12 hours ago, markb57 said:

actually, I would love for President Trump to declare Marshall Law, Suspend Habeas Corpus and the Constitution and send federal troops to arrest all these corrupt governors and SOS's. Actually have a true and correct investigation into all this voter fraud.

 

And if that fails, go back to mob rule. Yes Cranman. Federal election tampering is a valid reason.

 

No proof of rampant election fraud.....dozens upon dozens of failed lawsuits...even AG Barr, who has toted Donald's water for years now as if the justice department is Donald's private play toy, has said not enough election fraud exists to overturn the election....Simply saying it exists doesn't make it true, no matter how much time Donald spends tweeting and railing about it.  The United States of America is not a third world dictatorship and yet that's exacting the action you describe above.  

 

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12 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

protestors sang the Star Bangled Banner...

 

I can imagine THIS is what "triggered" Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to allege "Through threats of violence, intimidation and bullying".

 

:facepalm3:   :facepalm3:   :facepalm3:

 

 :shakehead:     :shakehead:     :shakehead:

 

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, of course, would be offended by the Star Spangled Banner being the Leftist Liberal Socialist Progressive Voter Fraud CHEATER she is in REAL life. Attempted Grinch, too.

 

Nah, The True The United States Of America Patriots WILL NOT STAND DOWN AND WILL SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM OF The United States Of America WHEN EVER AND WHERE EVER STANDING UP AND NOT KNEELING!!!

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....WHEN EVER AND WHERE EVER STANDING UP AND NOT KNEELING

 

United States shaped billboards with the Stars and Stripes colors in a wavy musical staff and those word emblazoned across the whole thing. 
 

place them all across America and extras near stadiums!!

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6 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

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Pretty bold to proclaim Michigan as a trouble free, completed without flaws election zone....

 

Of course it was her responsibility to assure fair, honest, accurate elections.in the State......so what would any one expect her to say.....

 

Wayne County.....some precincts had 2-3 hundred percent of registered voters vote......and in Wayne only 29% can be recounted....the rest seem to have disappeared....Wayne had approx 880,000 total votes...

 

Right......nothing to see here?!...   CL 

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1 minute ago, coorslite21 said:

Pretty bold to proclaim Michigan as a trouble free, completed without flaws election zone....

 

Of course it was her responsibility to assure fair, honest, accurate elections.in the State......so what would any one expect her to say.....

 

Wayne County.....some precincts had 2-3 hundred percent of registered voters vote......and in Wayne only 29% can be recounted....the rest seem to have disappeared....Wayne had approx 880,000 total votes...

 

Right......nothing to see here?!...   CL 

 

If "2-3 hundred percent of registered voters vote" were actually a true statement....we wouldn't find ourselves a month past the election with nearly zero lawsuits in the win column for Trump.  Simple fact...Republican officials aren't being bullied into caving to Donald's pressure either....ethical integrity is still alive and well in this country, though Donald seems to be doing all he can to destroy it.  

 

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Here’s a question for you Shabbs.  If 80% of the people who voted for President Trump believe the election was fraudulent and feel disenfranchised is that good for the Country?

 

 An election that is free and fair is the bedrock of our Freedom.  In my opinion if the fraudulent charges aren’t heard and honestly addressed you will have more divisiveness , more protests, and more anarchy.  Just because Dem Federally appointed Judges throw out the cases of Fraud doesn’t make it correct.  Let’s let the process play out, all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary.  

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11 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

Here’s a question for you Shabbs.  If 80% of the people who voted for President Trump believe the election was fraudulent and feel disenfranchised is that good for the Country?

 

 An election that is free and fair is the bedrock of our Freedom.  In my opinion if the fraudulent charges aren’t heard and honestly addressed you will have more divisiveness , more protests, and more anarchy.  Just because Dem Federally appointed Judges throw out the cases of Fraud doesn’t make it correct.  Let’s let the process play out, all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary.  

 

Donald doesn't get to claim victory simply because he says so, not how it works....Voters should allow the justice system to do it's job.....let the process play out, just as you say.  And you conveniently neglected to say that some of those judges who tossed cases are CONSERVATIVES appointed by Donald himself.  It doesn't matter if 80% of Trump supporters don't believe the results or not, it's not up to them, not how elections work.

 

And yes, I would love to hear what the SCOTUS has to say on the matter.  They are constitutionally beholden to the law, not to Trump.

 

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