Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort charged US taxpayers $3 for a glass of water

[Johnny Dinar]

6 minutes ago, KDuesing said:

So what, if you don't like don't golf during a event when the Japanese Prime minister is visiting and don't stay at his resorts. 

Break it down, they charged 13k for 2 ROOMS plural 16k for food and wine but they don't say for how many people and 6k for floral arrangement's but they don't say how many , it could have been flowers for the large rooms , hallways and anywhere else that needed flowers.

None of this is out of line for penthouse sweets.

You really have to watch the tricky media they can always make something out of nothing.

 

 

I think people have missed the point... This isn't about a $3 glass of water or a $10,000 room. It's about an elected official profiting off their office. So I guess if I was mayor of your town and owned a construction company and you owned a construction company you wouldn't mind if I gave all the city's business to myself... There are reasons we have laws against this sort of thing.

[KDuesing]

1 minute ago, Johnny Dinar said:

It's about an elected official profiting off their office.

They dont get free rooms and those prices are correct. There is nothing here where the president did anything wrong.

[Pitcher]

1 hour ago, Johnny Dinar said:

Why are they hiding their faces????

 

Because Dems will try to harm them.  Why do you try to deny the truth when it’s right in front of your face?  The correct response would be, I denounce any and all forms of voter fraud.  

 

Did you watch the vids?

 

[caddieman]

2 hours ago, Pitcher said:

I have a question for the Dem supporters.  If you watched the 2 vids I posted, what do you think about what you saw?  Do you think voter fraud is acceptable.

 

 President Trump and his supporters believe the Dems are trying to steal the election.  After watching those vids and the numerous ballots that have been found in the dumpster or in a ditch, I think think so too.  

Is there voter fraud..........technically yes. There is in every election.....both ways I might add. But a few 100 here and a few 100 there is not going to change an outcome. I could see maybe 5,000 in the whole election. That’s nothing compared to the 120+ million votes. Not even a blip. Now Trump says it’s in the millions which is just a flat out bold face LIE!

[nstoolman1]

4 minutes ago, caddieman said:

Is there voter fraud..........technically yes. There is in every election.....both ways I might add. But a few 100 here and a few 100 there is not going to change an outcome. I could see maybe 5,000 in the whole election. That’s nothing compared to the 120+ million votes. Not even a blip. Now Trump says it’s in the millions which is just a flat out bold face LIE!

 

Keep lying to yourself. There are millions of illegal aliens that vote. There are millions that are on the voter rolls that are dead and they somehow vote. When you have a 150 percent voter turnout in a district that is voter fraud.

[Johnny Dinar]

1 hour ago, KDuesing said:

They dont get free rooms and those prices are correct. There is nothing here where the president did anything wrong.

 

Elected officials cannot use their businesses for the business of government. It is the law...

 

So I guess you wouldn't care if your mayor awarded himself all your town's business and you as a contractor are left out of the process? This isn't some Banana Republic. We don't have or want a Putin running America. Ethics. That's what separates us from corrupt regimes. Or at least is supposed to work that way.. I'm actually shocked at some of the things I read here. Imagine if Obama or Clinton or Jimmy Carter owned hotels and did this. I guarantee the response would be completely different. I just do not understand why people look the other way for this guy...

[caddieman]

1 minute ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

Keep lying to yourself. There are millions of illegal aliens that vote. There are millions that are on the voter rolls that are dead and they somehow vote. When you have a 150 percent voter turnout in a district that is voter fraud.

Absolutely false!

[caddieman]

1 minute ago, Johnny Dinar said:

 

Elected officials cannot use their businesses for the business of government. It is the law...

 

So I guess you wouldn't care if your mayor awarded himself all your town's business and you as a contractor are left out of the process? This isn't some Banana Republic. We don't have or want a Putin running America. Ethics. That's what separates us from corrupt regimes. Or at least is supposed to work that way.. I'm actually shocked at some of the things I read here. Imagine if Obama or Clinton or Jimmy Carter owned hotels and did this. I guarantee the response would be completely different. I just do not understand why people look the other way for this guy...

He has been funneling government business to his property for 4 years......Republicans could give a 💩...........Now let a Democrat do that.......you will be hearing about it for eight years. They still after Obama lol!

[Johnny Dinar]

1 minute ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

Keep lying to yourself. There are millions of illegal aliens that vote. There are millions that are on the voter rolls that are dead and they somehow vote. When you have a 150 percent voter turnout in a district that is voter fraud.

 

I'd to see actual proof of this. Not some youtuber wanna be... Everyone involved in elections on both sides of the aisle disagree with this conspiracy. Everyone but Trump. Is every watchdog, election official and others who investigate this wrong? I doubt it. 

 

Why is it politicians pedal fear, or the better question is why do Americans believe their fear mongering.

 

Since I can remember the republicans have told us the Democrats were taking away guns. Hasn't happened. Democrats are going to make us all socialist, Hasn't happened. Democrats are gong to destroy the economy. Haven't seen it.

 

But it isn't just republicans who pedal fear. The democrats tell us the Republicans will end Social Security. I've been hearing that for 30 years. The Democrats say The Republicans will ban contraception... Ahh it hasn't happened. The Democrats say The Republicans will privatize everything. Nope they haven't. 

 

Every election cycle we hear this crap and every time Americans fall for it... So in short here is the truth as I see it.

 

You will keep your guns.

You will still have contraception.

You will still have public roads.

Social Security will be here long after most of us.

The economy will go up then down then up and then down.

 

So enjoy your future and make your own way and please stop buying into the rhetoric and conspiracies.

 

JMHO

 

 

[Pitcher]

1 hour ago, caddieman said:

.both ways I might add. But a few 100 here and a few 100 there is not going to change an outcome.

Bring concrete voter fraud by a Rep and I will denounce it.  You on the other hand blows off 2 vids of evidence of voter fraud by a Dem by saying it doesn’t matter.  Hogwash. It does matter.
 

A few hundred misplaced votes in key districts can swing a State to a Candidate but you know that.  Dems have gotten caught more than just a handful of times trying to win by Voter fraud. It is despicable, against the law and you shouldn’t be trying to cover for those crooks. 
 

Trump will win anyway. GDP up 33% in the 3rd quarter.  You can take Joe and his cold dark winter and throw that loser mentality into the trash can where it belongs. 
 

 

[Johnny Dinar]

8 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

GDP up 33% in the 3rd quarter.

 

You know that is only returning to where is was... It's good things are coming back, but there is no secret sauce it's just people doing what they do... My business is way off for the year, but 3rd quarter has my regular clients trying to catch up. It's business but not new business... Except my republican senate client, he is spending money likes it's going out of style, that helps my economy.

[caddieman]

16 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

Bring concrete voter fraud by a Rep and I will denounce it.  You on the other hand blows off 2 vids of evidence of voter fraud by a Dem by saying it doesn’t matter.  Hogwash. It does matter.
 

A few hundred misplaced votes in key districts can swing a State to a Candidate but you know that.  Dems have gotten caught more than just a handful of times trying to win by Voter fraud. It is despicable, against the law and you shouldn’t be trying to cover for those crooks. 
 

Trump will win anyway. GDP up 33% in the 3rd quarter.  You can take Joe and his cold dark winter and throw that loser mentality into the trash can where it belongs. 
 

 

Im not trying to cover for them. They broke the law throw them in jail. What I’m saying is there is no way a hand full of crooks are going to sway an election with a hand full of votes. Any voter fraud should be weeded out an prosecuted.

[KDuesing]

3 hours ago, Johnny Dinar said:

It's about an elected official profiting off their office.

Didn't trump pass on the 450k paycheck per year for being president? That's 1.8 million.

But your still bitching.

Edited October 29, 2020 by KDuesing

[mikedeason]

 

Maybe the $3 water was Perriere with lime, Pellegrino or such.

[Pitcher]

59 minutes ago, Johnny Dinar said:

You know that is only returning to where is was

 

You know there is a Worldwide Pandemic going on!!!!  You also know that the Dem run States are shut down.  How long do you think the Dems can kept peddling their FEAR, DOOM, and GLOOM.

 

 

[nstoolman1]

2 hours ago, Johnny Dinar said:

 

I'd to see actual proof of this.

 

 

Detroit news

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/

 

 

Voter fraud exists – Even though many in the media claim it doesn’t

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/voter-fraud-exists-even-though-many-in-the-media-claim-it-doesnt

 

So, yes, it does exist. If a State Attorney is crooked and will not investigate then of course. there is no voter fraud. 

 

 

[nstoolman1]

People need to stop whining about Trump and go after every congress person who has become a millionaire while in office. 

[Pitcher]

Im not trying to cover for them. They broke the law throw them in jail. What I’m saying is there is no way a hand full of crooks are going to sway an election with a hand full of votes. Any voter fraud should be weeded out an prosecuted.  From caddieman.

 

Your first 2 sentences are correct.  Thank you.  I believe we would be very naive to believe those 2 vids are the only voter fraud going on by Dems.  And, I’m sure there are Reps doing the same but I haven’t seen any evidence yet. 

 

This will probably be the last National election where this is even going to be possible. The next Election will be held on the Blockchain where there will be ZERO CHANCE FOR FRAUD!!!!   

[Pitcher]

9 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

People need to stop whining about Trump and go after every congress person who has become a millionaire while in office. 

 

Term Limits and get rid of Lobbyists.  Anyone caught peddling influence goes to jail for a minimum of 25 years, no time off for good behavior.  

 

[Sage449]

yota, LGD you said a mouthful, thanks! Lately it's hard not to unleash a stinging tongue, but I need to retain some decorum. 🙂🤐

[MyLadiesDaddy]

3 hours ago, Johnny Dinar said:

Elected officials cannot use their businesses for the business of government. It is the law

Which is why Trump disassociated himself from all his businesses before becoming president. But you knew that already. 

[Johnny Dinar]

1 hour ago, KDuesing said:

Didn't trump pass on the 450k paycheck per year for being president? That's 1.8 million.

But your still bitching.

 

Yeah I'll give up a couple million to make 4 or 5 times that... Seriously, do you think he isn't going to cash in? He's a ruthless businessman who has admitted to manipulating the markets to make a buck... He zero scruples.   JMHO

[Pitcher]

9 minutes ago, Johnny Dinar said:

Yeah I'll give up a couple million to make 4 or 5 times that... Seriously, do you think he isn't going to cash in? He's a ruthless businessman who has admitted to manipulating the markets to make a buck... He zero scruples

 

He has a way to go before he catches up to Joe Biden and the Clinton’s.  

All our Politicians are dirty.  Every damn one of them.  

[md11fr8dawg]

You got to LOVE it. The caddieman and JD have their panties in a huge wad about Trump' businesses profiting off of him being Prez and CRICKETS about ole VP say  it ain't so Joe doing it first and for many more years. Except one profiteer did it illegally and in collaboration with foreign governments that are our enemies. TOTAL TDS!! A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse!!

[Shabibilicious]

14 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Which is why Trump disassociated himself from all his businesses before becoming president. But you knew that already. 

 

Jan 11, 2017,11:41am EST

Trump Refuses To Divest Assets, Passes Control To Sons

Chase Peterson-WithornForbes Staff

Billionaires

(Daniel Acker/Bloomberg)

By Dan Alexander, Chase Peterson-Withorn and Jennifer Wang

Donald Trump will not divest from his business empire and will instead hand over control of his companies to sons Eric and Donald Jr., along with his longtime Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg, Trump and his lawyer announced in a press conference at Trump Tower on Wednesday morning.

“They’re going to be running it in a very professional manner,” Trump said. “They’re not going to discuss it with me.”

 

Sheri Dillon, a lawyer with the firm Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, explained the details of the agreement. Trump’s assets -- including commercial real estate, licensing businesses and cash holdings -- will be transferred to a trust under the control of his sons and Weisselberg before his inauguration on Jan. 20. The three will have full authority to run the Trump Organization for the duration of Trump’s presidency; the president-elect will step down from all of his executive positions.

Trump will appoint an ethics advisor to vet all business transactions that could present a conflict of interest, according to a white paper released by Morgan, Lewis & Bockius. The Trump Organization will employ a chief compliance officer, whose job will be to ensure that the company does not exploit the presidency for profit.

 

Trump claims to have cancelled all pending business deals, according to the white paper, and the Trump Organization will not enter into new foreign licensing agreements, or any deals with foreign officials or the U.S. government, while Trump is in office. All new domestic projects are to be reviewed by the ethics advisor, and Trump pledges to donate to the U.S. Treasury any profits from foreign governments patronizing his “hotels and similar businesses.”

“President-Elect Trump will have no role in deciding whether The Trump Organization engages in any new deal, and he will be completely sequestered from any information regarding the Organization’s decisions,” the white paper reads. “In other words, he will learn about them only through the media, as the American People would.”

While Trump said his plan goes beyond what he is required to do, the move disappointed some ethics experts, who have been calling on Trump to sell his assets and put the proceeds into a blind trust. Trump will apparently, through the trust, retain ownership of the Trump Organization companies and will benefit financially from their dealings.

“Stepping back from running his business is meaningless from a conflict of interest perspective,” said U.S. Office of Government Ethics director Walter Schaub Jr. in remarks at the Brookings Institution on Wednesday, describing Trump’s plan as “wholly inadequate.”

“He has all of the conflicts of interest that he had before,” Richard Painter, who served as chief ethics lawyer in the George W. Bush administration, told Forbes. “We don’t know who his business partners are, we don’t know who he owes.”

Forbes estimates Trump to be worth $3.7 billion. More than half of his fortune -- nearly $2 billion -- is tied up in New York City real estate, including signature properties Trump Tower and 40 Wall Street. Trump also owns 30% of an office building, 1290 Avenue of the Americas, with publicly-traded Vornado Realty Trust and holds a 4% interest in Spring Creek Towers, a 46-tower government-subsidized housing complex in Brooklyn.

Trump has an additional $1.2 billion worth of real estate and golf courses across the country. His Florida holdings include the private Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach and the Trump National Doral resort in Miami. In California he owns the former Bank of America tower at 555 California Street (again alongside Vornado), and in Nevada he and fellow billionaire Phil Ruffin each own half of the gold-windowed Trump Las Vegas hotel.

Trump’s personal property includes homes in Manhattan, Beverly Hills and Palm Beach, plus $35 million worth of planes and helicopters. Trump also has $230 million in cash and liquid assets, including a stock portfolio that he claims to have sold off last June.

It does not appear that Trump intends to sell his stake in the recently-opened Trump International Hotel, Washington D.C., which occupies the government-owned Old Post Office building near the White House. The lease Trump signed with the General Services Administration in 2013 seems to explicitly bar elected officials from being party to the agreement. The GSA released a statement Wednesday saying it is “seeking additional information” to determine whether Trump’s plan will violate the lease.

Trump’s international dealings, which stretch from Toronto to Istanbul and the Philippines, have attracted much scrutiny about potential conflicts of interest. But few of the projects bearing the Trump name outside of the U.S. are actually owned by the president-elect. Three golf courses -- Aberdeen and Turnberry in Scotland, and Doonbeg in Ireland -- are his only international properties.

The rest of Trump’s non-U.S. interests are part of either his hotel management and licensing business (which oversees the operation of hotels that are not owned by Trump and licenses the Trump brand to other companies) or his product licensing operation (which strikes deals to put Trump’s name on things like ties, coffee and bottled water). In all, his two licensing businesses are worth $137 million -- less than 4% of his net worth.

Now Donald Jr. and Eric Trump -- who have steadily risen through the ranks of the Trump Organization -- will control these holdings. Both sons are currently executive vice presidents of development and acquisitions at the company. Along with their sister, Ivanka, they have been credited with spearheading the Trump Hotel Collection that spans from Trump-owned properties in New York and Miami to licensing and management deals in Panama City and Indonesia. Donald Jr. was involved in the development of high-rise condo hotels Trump Las Vegas and Trump Chicago, and has been overseeing commercial leasing for the family company; Eric has been working on his father's extensive golf portfolio.

Ivanka will have no role managing the business, according to Dillon. She will move to Washington with with her husband, Jared Kushner, a real estate scion whose family is worth at least $1.8 billion. The couple was heavily involved in Trump's campaign and transition; Trump officially named Kushner a senior advisor on Monday. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2017/01/11/donald-trump-will-hand-over-business/?sh=4795ff9560d7

 

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