caz1104 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Putin is not to be trusted.....period. With that said unless we can come up with something stronger than "high confidence" then we should allow the Muller investigation to run it's course 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, bostonangler said: It's not fake news when it comes out of his mouth.... He backed Putin... Deal with it. B/A What a misconstrual of reality You display over and over again. I am sorry and pity You for having to deal with Your self imposed limitation. Thank You, Red Rubymeister, for the Red Ruby Citation for "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" since they are Badges Of Honor for ME!!! Just now, bostonangler said: Trump simply wimped out and cowered to Putin's powerful presence, or Putin has something on Trump. ... Either way this was a bad day for America's position in the world of leadership. B/A Why would You, BostonAngler, say "Putin's powerful presence" when Putin clearly displayed in the youtube clip his disdain for and being fed up with the Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftist created crap storm regarding the False Narrative Russian meddling in the 2016 Presidential Election when the Media Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces actually failed in their job to prey on weak minds to influence them to vote for Hilly Clinton???!!! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................................................. Your, BostonAngler, misconstrual of "Either way this was a bad day for America's position in the world of leadership" is clearly monumental. What was Vladimir Putin going to do???!!! Get on his knees before President Donald J Trump befor the whole world to see and beg forgiveness for the False Narrative the Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftists created to punish the Russians for the Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftists' inability to get Hilly Clinton elected???!!! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................................................. Here we have President Donald J Trump demonstrating a balanced demeanor while taking a strong stand and the Media Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces are throwing a conniption but displaying a crap storm over their own idiocy. 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Trump 'treasonous' after siding with Putin on election meddling US president under fire after backing Kremlin at joint press conference with Russian leader Mon 16 Jul 2018 18.43 BST David Smith in Helsinki Vid https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/16/trump-finds-putin-denial-of-election-meddling-powerful 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 PUTIN DROPS BOMB AT HELSINKI PRESSER: Says US Intelligence Helped Move $400,000,000 to Hillarious Campa 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Synopsis said: What a misconstrual of reality You display over and over again. I am sorry and pity You for having to deal with Your self imposed limitation. Thank You, Red Rubymeister, for the Red Ruby Citation for "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" since they are Badges Of Honor for ME!!! Why would You, BostonAngler, say "Putin's powerful presence" when Putin clearly displayed in the youtube clip his disdain for and being fed up with the Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftist created crap storm regarding the False Narrative Russian meddling in the 2016 Presidential Election when the Media Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces actually failed in their job to prey on weak minds to influence them to vote for Hilly Clinton???!!! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................................................. Your, BostonAngler, misconstrual of "Either way this was a bad day for America's position in the world of leadership" is clearly monumental. What was Vladimir Putin going to do???!!! Get on his knees before President Donald J Trump befor the whole world to see and beg forgiveness for the False Narrative the Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftists created to punish the Russians for the Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftists' inability to get Hilly Clinton elected???!!! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................................................. Here we have President Donald J Trump demonstrating a balanced demeanor while taking a strong stand and the Media Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces are throwing a conniption but displaying a crap storm over their own idiocy. What I find amusing is that BA for some reason is afraid to state the obvious.....that he/she is a die hard liberal pretending to be a moderate. At least with my friend (who I respect tremendously) Shabs you know what ya got & he aint afraid to state his political affiliation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Putin Claims U.S. Intelligence Agents Funneled $400 Million To Clinton Campaign by Tyler Durden Mon, 07/16/2018 - 17:10 1.9K SHARES TwitterFacebookRedditEmailPrint Vladimir Putin made a bombshell claim during Monday's joint press conference with President Trump in Helsinki, Finland, when the Russian President said some $400 million in illegally earned profits was funneled to the Clinton campaign by associates of American-born British financier Bill Browder - at one time the largest foreign portfolio investors in Russia. The scheme involved members of the U.S. intelligence community, said Putin, who he said "accompanied and guided these transactions." Browder made billions in Russia during the 90's. In December, a Moscow court sentenced Browder in absentia to nine years in prison for tax fraud, while he was also found guilty of tax evasion in a separate 2013 case. Putin accused Browder's associates of illegally earning over than $1.5 billion without paying Russian taxes, before sending $400 million to Clinton. After offering to allow special counsel Robert Mueller's team to come to Russia for their investigation - as long as there was a reciprocal arrangement for Ru For instance, we can bring up Mr. Browder, in this particular case. Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia and never paid any taxes neither in Russia or the United States and yet the money escaped the country. They were transferred to the United States. They sent [a] huge amount of money, $400,000,000, as a contribution to the campaign of Hillarious Clinton. Well that’s their personal case. It might have been legal, the contribution itself but the way the money was earned was illegal. So we have solid reason to believe that some [US] intelligence officers accompanied and guided these transactions. So we have an interest in questioning them. The Columbia Bugle @ColumbiaBugle #BREAKING President Putin accuses Hillarious Clinton of accepting $400 million in illegal Russian campaign contributions. #Hilsinki2018 10:49 AM - Jul 16, 2018 4,333 3,541 people are talking about this Twitter Ads info and privacy We would expect Putin to show some receipts for such bombshell allegations, while President Trump did not challenge the claims. Who is Bill Browder? Max Blumenthal ✔@MaxBlumenthal Clueless American media in Helsinki might want to watch Andrey Nekrasov’s “Magnitsky Act: Behind The Scenes” on how fraudster and US defector Bill Browder played Congress with his personal fortune and helped ignite a new Cold War. Browder got screening cancelled in EU parliament. Torstein Grude@TorsteinGrude Replying to @Kasparov63 A personalised screener of the film that Kasparov and Bill Browder do not want you to see can be gotten from me. I'm the film's producer. Please send an email to torstein@piraya.no 1:28 PM - Jul 16, 2018 208 165 people are talking about this Twitter Ads info and privacy From a report we noted in February by Philip Giraldi of The Strategic Culture Foundation: Israel Shamir, a keen observer of the American-Russian relationship, and celebrated American journalist Robert Parry both think that one man deserves much of the credit for the new Cold War and that man is William Browder, a hedge fund operator who made his fortune in the corrupt 1990s world of Russian commodities trading. Browder is also symptomatic of why the United States government is so poorly informed about international developments as he is the source of much of the Congressional “expert testimony” contributing to the current impasse. He has somehow emerged as a trusted source in spite of the fact that he has self-interest in cultivating a certain outcome. Also ignored is his renunciation of American citizenship in 1998, reportedly to avoid taxes. He is now a British citizen. Browder is notoriously the man behind the 2012 Magnitsky Act, which exploited Congressional willingness to demonize Russia and has done so much to poison relations between Washington and Moscow. The Act sanctioned individual Russian officials, which Moscow has rightly seen as unwarranted interference in the operation of its judicial system. Browder, a media favorite who self-promotes as “Putin’s enemy #1,” portrays himself as a selfless human rights advocate, but is he? He has used his fortune to threaten lawsuits for anyone who challenges his version of events, effectively silencing many critics. He claims that his accountant Sergei Magnitsky was a crusading "lawyer" who discovered a $230 million tax-fraud scheme that involved the Browder business interest Hermitage Capital but was, in fact, engineered by corrupt Russian police officers who arrested Magnitsky and enabled his death in a Russian jail. Many have been skeptical of the Browder narrative, suspecting that the fraud was in fact concocted by Browder and his accountant Magnitsky. A Russian court recently supported that alternative narrative, ruling in late December that Browder had deliberately bankrupted his company and engaged in tax evasion. He was sentenced to nine years prison in absentia. William Browder is again in the news recently in connection with testimony related to Russiagate. On December 16th Senator Diane Feinstein of the Senate Judiciary Committee released the transcript of the testimony provided by Glenn Simpson, founder of Fusion GPS. According to James Carden, Browder was mentioned 50 times, but the repeated citations apparently did not merit inclusion in media coverage of the story by the New York Times, Washington Post and Politico. Fusion GPS, which was involved in the research producing the Steele Dossier used to discredit Donald Trump, was also retained to provide investigative services relating to a lawsuit in New York City involving a Russian company called Prevezon. As information provided by Browder was the basis of the lawsuit, his company and business practices while in Russia became part of the investigation. Simmons maintained that Browder proved to be somewhat evasive and his accounts of his activities were inconsistent. He claimed never to visit the United States and not own property or do business there, all of which were untrue, to include his ownership through a shell company of a $10 million house in Aspen Colorado. He repeatedly ran away, literally, from attempts to subpoena him so he would have to testify under oath. Per Simmons, in Russia, Browder used shell companies locally and also worldwide to avoid taxes and conceal ownership, suggesting that he was likely one of many corrupt businessmen operating in what was a wild west business environment. My question is, “Why was such a man granted credibility and allowed a free run to poison the vitally important US-Russia relationship?” The answer might be follow the money. Israel Shamir reports that Browder was a major contributor to Senator Ben Cardin of Maryland, who was the major force behind the Magnitsky Act. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-16/putin-claims-us-intelligence-agents-funneled-400-million-clinton-campaign 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 hours ago, bostonangler said: Md the gig is up... He turned on his own people... Let's see what his people have to say... No American can be proud of this. Haha...turned on his people..Nice try...Have you seen Trump approval ratings lately....they going up....and His people don't believe any of this conspiracy theories... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Putin Accuses Hillarious Clinton Of Accepting $400 Million Dollar Illegal Donation From Russia 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Back in the day all this was ok....crickets.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Synopsis said: Media Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces are throwing a conniption but displaying a crap storm over their own idiocy. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, caz1104 said: What I find amusing is that BA for some reason is afraid to state the obvious.....that he/she is a die hard liberal pretending to be a moderate. Great Statement, CAZ1104!!! Yeah, I wish it was all a merely a laughing matter. A displayed viceral hatred for reality while portraying unsubstantiated and alternative “facts” as actionable is disturbing and problematic. And to see The United States Of America Mainstream Media has these folks so brainwashed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Yota!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 http://12160.info/video/putin-blows-apart-russia-collusion-probe-sent-400-000-000-to?xg_source=activity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 My take on all of this is just a bit different......first off....how many of you have read Trumps...."The Art of the Deal" ? If you really want to understand his methods in dealing with Putin, Kim, Merkle.....and all other others.......I suggest you read the book..... To address the " US Intelligence Community" flak.....what have Trumps personal experiences with them been.....? I can outline them if you wish.......but I believe you all know what I'm talking about...Dosier...Comey, Storzk, Page, Mueller, Holder, FISA Warrents, HRC, Servers, Billy Bob on the runway, Donna Brasil, CNN leaking debate questions, DNC screwing Sanders......and so much more.... The US has become the laughing stock of the world........and it isn't because of Trump.......it's because of the status quo.......business as usual for the USG and the divided Party's As far as interference.....no doubt........but the biggest offender in the World doing this is the US......and the entire world knows this, and this is one of the reasons the World is losing faith in the good old USA. The World has grown weary of being manipulated by the west..... Is it better if the US and Russia, who together hold 90% of the worlds nukes get along........if you don't answer yes........you may need some mental health help... Is Trump keeping his campaign promise of puting America First.......I believe he is.......Do other leaders such as Putin do the same for their countries........well, the good ones do.......The problem in the US is that too many.......even on this thread put party first.......not Country....not how it's suppose to be... Trump is the elected President......you want change........quit crying and get involved for what you believe......give your time.....and if by some chance some change in the value of the IQD should happen before the midterms.........how might you be able to get involved.........do you have a plan?? Hope you all have a good day.....CL 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 And think about this......and the US MSM..... So Trump got schooled.......he kissed Putin's boots.........his ass......Trump disgraced the nation......... So if this is what happened wouldn't you think the Russian Media would be blowing the same horn???? Perhaps not............. https://www.rt.com/news/ Home World News Jul 16, 2018 15:17 Cold War ended, difficulties in Russia-US relations don't have any objective reasons - Putin There are no objective reasons for Moscow and Washington not to get along, said Russian President Vladimir Putin speaking first after more than three hours talks with US President Donald Trump. Newsline Death toll from suicide attack in Pakistan rises to 149 200 protesters gather at Iraq’s Siba gas field, demanding jobs – sources Russia pulls 2 more battle helicopters from Syria – MoD Civilian death toll in Afghanistan reaches record high – UN Beijing airport cancels 670 flights over heavy rain Russia’s Lavrov holds first meeting with Pompeo in Helsinki Talk of collusion with Trump ‘absurd’ – Putin Russian President Vladimir Putin described as ‘absurd’ any talk of collusion between Moscow and US President Donald Trump during the 2016 election campaign in the US. Jul 16, 2018 16:54 I wanted Trump to win - Putin (VIDEO) Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has revealed that he actually wanted Donald Trump to win the 2016 US presidential election. Russia, however, did not contribute to Trump’s win by any means, he insisted. Jul 16, 2018 15:44 Putin laughs at suggestion that Russia collected dirt on Trump Vladimir Putin laughed after being asked if Russia had compromising information about Donald Trump or his family, replying that it’s absurd to suggest that Moscow collects dirt on every American businessman who visits the country. Jul 16, 2018 16:10 Get a sneak peek inside Helsinki palace kitchen as it preps lunch for Putin & Trump (VIDEO) The two leaders allocated just 30 minutes to a working lunch after their face-to-face meeting in Helsinki's presidential palace - which overran - meaning that a meal that has taken weeks to plan had to be delivered to the second. Jul 16, 2018 14:31 ‘Two boxers starting a match’: Trump and Putin's gestures dissected by body language expert Donald Trump appeared uncomfortable but confident before his summit with Vladimir Putin, a body language expert told RT, noting that both leaders looked more relaxed after their meeting – perhaps a sign of the summit’s success. Jul 16, 2018 22:18 Iran wants to take US to international court over re-imposed sanctions Tehran has announced that it has filed a complaint against the US in the International Court of Justice over President Donald Trump’s decision to re-impose sanctions on the Islamic Republic after he ditched the ‘nuclear deal’. Jul 16, 2018 21:06 ‘Was he from ***** Riot?’ Lavrov jokes about demonstrator removed from Trump-Putin press conference Sergey Lavrov was quick to draw a comparison between ***** Riot’s World Cup final pitch invasion and an even more bewildering incident that preceded the Donald Trump-Vladimir Putin press conference in Helsinki. Jul 16, 2018 20:48 Trump can listen, but keeps his own opinion on many issues, yet US & Russia on right track - Putin Russian President Vladimir Putin revealed that the Helsinki summit with Donald Trump was more fruitful than expected, stating that the US president is a competent man, who knows how to listen, yet stand his ground. Jul 16, 2018 19:08 Consecrated virgins vent fury after Vatican tells them chastity not required after all Consecrated virgins have expressed their shock and outrage after a Vatican document suggested that physical virginity is not a prerequisite to becoming a so-called ‘bride of Christ.’ Jul 16, 2018 16:46 If Mueller investigation sends official request to question suspects, Russia will do that - Putin Russian President Vladimir Putin said that if Moscow receives an official request from Mueller investigation, then Russian will question them according to the treaty dating back to the nineties. Jul 16, 2018 15:54 More 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Trump is right to say our intelligence services suck. They do. All of them bought and paid for by the DNC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Comey Lashes Out at Trump After Putin Drops Bombshell Claiming ‘US Intel Helped Move $400,000,000 to Hillarious Campaign’ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/comey-lashes-out-at-trump-after-putin-drops-bombshell-claiming-us-intel-helped-move-400000000-to-Hillarious-campaign/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 An0maly @LegendaryEnergy 13h13 hours ago Meeting with a foreign leader is not treason. It is diplomacy. If you don’t understand that, you’re probably brainwashed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 An0maly @LegendaryEnergy 8h8 hours ago We’ve literally had politicians sell our country out to the highest bidder for decades. President Trump has one meeting & they are screaming treason? You have to be brainwashed or borderline mentally ill to be trapped in that mindset. I’ll pray for you. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Wow I can't believe you are throwing out Putin's bull crap... Do you also believe he gets 98% of the vote? Do you believe he didn't invade Crimea? Do you believe him when he says he didn't poison the former soviet spy in England? Do you believe Newt who says this is the biggest mistake in Trumps presidency? How did this cult ever get started? You defend a guy who lies, cheats, and now turns his back on his people in favor of a known murderous dictator... B/A 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 12 hours ago, yota691 said: Haha...turned on his people..Nice try...Have you seen Trump approval ratings lately....they going up....and His people don't believe any of this conspiracy theories... "His people"...truer words have never been spoken. Of course, "his people" won't have the luxury of the Electoral College come mid term season....so will "his people" be enough to stand between Trump and those willing to right a wrong? Do you think Donald lies alone in his bed at night with Hannity on a continuous video loop, hugging cheeseburgers, dreaming of the day he himself can garner a legitimate 98% of the vote like his good friend Vlad Putin? GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 9 hours ago, coorslite21 said: And think about this......and the US MSM..... So Trump got schooled.......he kissed Putin's boots.........his ass......Trump disgraced the nation......... So if this is what happened wouldn't you think the Russian Media would be blowing the same horn???? Perhaps not............. Think about this, CL. Considering Putin controls ALL media in Russia, I have a tendency to believe the Russian Media is going to say what they're told to say, pretty much exactly how Trump wants the U.S. media to report favorably about himself at every turn. Putin is a former KGB operative, not a property flipper....he is best served by not blowing this up as a win....it keeps his new lapdog Trump in line if he doesn't make him look bad and in turn continues to divide the mighty U.S.of A.....As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 hours ago, caz1104 said: At least with my friend (who I respect tremendously) Shabs you know what ya got & he aint afraid to state his political affiliation. Mad respect for you as well, my friend. Although I tend to think of my political leanings as a sidebar to my human affiliation. I've never claimed to be a Liberal and still don't think of myself as such. But I do respect the human condition and those around me, something I don't believe DJT gives a rat's ass about....and therefore my never Trump status exists. There's so many crack pots on both sides of the aisle that I would be doing a disservice to myself if I chose party over people. GO RV, then BV 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 17 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: No no......strong the enablers are. Once Donald's handler, Hannity, gives Trump's epic fail and epic spin.........pajama clad supporters will be dancing in the streets of denial. GO RV, then BV Here's that flattering Hannity spin anticipated by all. GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: I would be doing a disservice to myself if I chose party over people. Nicely put... Too bad more people don't think in these terms... I have explained many times that I'm independent and vote for people and not parties... But because I post truths about the incompetence we are seeing I'm labeled a liberal. When people have no facts to dispute the truth they resort to name calling... B/A 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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