Trump, Putin hold joint press conference

[caz1104]

1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Mad respect for you as well, my friend.  Although I tend to think of my political leanings as a sidebar to my human affiliation.  I've never claimed to be a Liberal and still don't think of myself as such.  But I do respect the human condition and those around me, something I don't believe DJT gives a rat's ass about....and therefore my never Trump status exists.  There's so many crack pots on both sides of the aisle that I would be doing a disservice to myself if I chose party over people.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[coorslite21]

1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Think about this, CL.  Considering Putin controls ALL media in Russia, I have a tendency to believe the Russian Media is going to say what they're told to say, pretty much exactly how Trump wants the U.S. media to report favorably about himself at every turn.  Putin is a former KGB operative, not a property flipper....he is best served by not blowing this up as a win....it keeps his new lapdog Trump in line if he doesn't make him look bad and in turn continues to divide the mighty U.S.of A.....As always, just my opinion.  

 

GO RV, then BV

Have to agree on some of this....my thought is that much the same can be said about the US MSM....they are no longer a " free press".....90% are owned by 6 companies with left leaning tendencies....Trump has never gotten a fair deal from them.....they won't be writing the positives.....just how the bias goes....and...as for as "intelligence agencies"....Trumps personal experiences should tell you why he feels the way he does....the Obama DOJ fabricated stuff to prevent his win.....and now the establishment would like to bring him down.....because he's not one of them....Trump was elected because the average Joe was tired of the same old stuff.....and this is driving the PTB nuts..JMO....CL

 

 

 

[caz1104]

9 hours ago, bigwave said:

Comey Lashes Out at Trump After Putin Drops Bombshell Claiming ‘US Intel Helped Move $400,000,000 to Hillarious Campaign’

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/comey-lashes-out-at-trump-after-putin-drops-bombshell-claiming-us-intel-helped-move-400000000-to-Hillarious-campaign/

Comey...now there's someone we can all trust.................NOT...what a tool

[caz1104]

1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

Wow I can't believe you are throwing out Putin's bull crap... Do you also believe he gets 98% of the vote? Do you believe he didn't invade Crimea? Do you believe him when he says he didn't poison the former soviet spy in England?  Do you believe Newt who says this is the biggest mistake in Trumps presidency? 

 

How did this cult ever get started? You defend a guy who lies, cheats, and now turns his back on his people in favor of a known murderous dictator... 

 

B/A

"how did this cult ever get started?" Well IMO it started with 1st News broadcast decades ago. The MSM & the Left have duped it's followers ever since, and sadly they've found how easily this was accomplished. "SHEEP" is the perfect term for those that follow the above blindly

[bostonangler]

20 minutes ago, caz1104 said:

"how did this cult ever get started?"  Well IMO it started

 

Thanks caz for acknowledging that there is fact a cult mentality in America... I would say it exists on both sides of the aisle. Which serves as the main reason to be independent from party members who blindly vote for party...

 

B/A

[Shabibilicious]

 

2 hours ago, caz1104 said:

 

I know negs don't bother you, Caz.....but it does bother me to see you receive one for being cordial to me.  I'll toss an emerald your way when I get some.  

 

GO RV, then BV 

[umbertino]

20 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

I didn't see Obama licking the KGB's boots.... Putin, the man who gets 98% of the votes in his elections was the head of the KGB before he took over the government. Who are you going to believe, Putin or your fellow Americans who have made a career out of watching those kommies? You are defending a trader.

 

B/A

 

 

Hope that helps.....

 

 

https://www.biography.com/people/vladimir-putin-9448807

 

 

Personal website

http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio

 

 

https://biographics.org/vladimir-putin-president-for-life/

 

 

http://euromaidanpress.com/category/opinion-analysis/the-naked-truth/

 

 

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/vladimir-putin-shown-naked-truth-on-civil-rights/news-story/917824cecc5b5687271dd24189b647c5?sv=d92b2161621c0090ae108d2c3f78aeda

 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/putins-game/546548/

 

 

 

https://www.weeklystandard.com/garry-kasparov/the-truth-about-putin

 

 

https://thenakedhedgie.com/2017/06/07/vladimir-putins-17-years-in-power-the-scorecard/

 

 

 

[umbertino]

17 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

 

I know negs don't bother you, Caz.....but it does bother me to see you receive one for being cordial to me.  I'll toss an emerald your way when I get some.  

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

Trying to plus you both Shabs and Caz...But, magically just now...Ran out of pluses......

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 17, 2018 by umbertino

[bostonangler]

Thanks for sharing Umbertino.... Maybe this will help people understand Putin is not a good guy, like some seem to think.

 

B/A

[umbertino]

 

Thanks for reading, B/A and all who might be interested....Still out of pluses right now.....Waiting to get re-loaded

[umbertino]

Reporter Dragged from Trump-Putin Press Conference for Trying to Ask About Nuclear Treaty

 

July 17, 2018

 

 

 

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/7/17/it_wasnt_a_protest_sam_husseini

[bostonangler]

Trump says he misspoke on Russia meddling following Putin meeting

He also said he accepts the American intelligence community's conclusion that Russia interfered in the election, but he denied that his campaign had colluded in the effort.

Trump spoke a day after returning to the U.S. to nearly universal condemnation of his performance at Russian President Vladmir Putin's side in Helsinki. Putin said he wanted Trump to win the race against Democrat Hillarious Clinton.

President Donald Trump says he meant the opposite when he said in Helsinki that he doesn't see why Russia would have interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections.

Back at the White House on Tuesday, the president told reporters that he said he meant he doesn't see why Russia "wouldn't" be responsible.

He also said he accepts the American intelligence community's conclusion that Russia interfered in the election, but he denied that his campaign had colluded in the effort.

Trump spoke a day after returning to the U.S. to nearly universal condemnation of his performance at Russian President Vladmir Putin's side in Helsinki. Putin said he wanted Trump to win the race against Democrat Hillarious Clinton.

In Helsinki, Trump delivered no condemnation of Russia's interference and refused to say he believes American intelligence agencies over Russia's denials of meddling.

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Unbowed by the broad condemnation of his extraordinary embrace of a longtime U.S. enemy, President Donald Trump declared Tuesday that his summit in Helsinki with Russian President Vladimir Putin went "even better" than his meeting with NATO allies last week in Brussels.

The tweeted defense came a day after Trump openly questioned his own intelligence agencies' findings that Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. election to his benefit, and he seemed to accept Putin's insistence that Moscow's hands were clean.

 

Trump's reference to his NATO performance carried an edge, too, since the barrage of criticism and insults he delivered there was not generally well-received. He dismissed it all with a new attack on an old target: the news media. He said his NATO meeting was "great" but he "had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Russia. Sadly, it is not being reported that way - the Fake News is going Crazy!"

In fact, the reaction back home was immediate and visceral, among fellow Republicans as well as usual Trump critics. "Shameful," ''disgraceful," ''weak," were a few of the comments. Makes the U.S. "look like a pushover," said GOP Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee.

Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, the No. 2 Republican in the chamber, suggested Congress would consider additional sanctions on Russia following Trump's meeting with Putin. "We could find common ground to turn the screws on Russia," he said.

Cornyn suggested sanctions legislation as an alternative to plans for a resolution supporting the intelligence community's findings that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

A resolution —as some in the House are suggesting— is "just some messaging exercise," said Cornyn.

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, meanwhile, called for immediate hearings with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and other top officials to learn more about Trump's one-on-one meeting with the Russia leader.

As criticism mounted, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders announced Trump would speak Tuesday afternoon about the Helsinki meeting.

Trump's meeting with Putin in Helsinki was his first time sharing the international stage with a man he has described as an important U.S. competitor — but whom he has also praised a strong, effective leader.

His remarks, siding with a foe on foreign soil over his own government, was a stark illustration of Trump's willingness to upend decades of U.S. foreign policy and rattle Western allies in service of his political concerns. A wary and robust stance toward Russia has been a bedrock of his party's world view. But Trump made clear he feels that any acknowledgement of Russia's election involvement would undermine the legitimacy of his election.

 

Standing alongside Putin, Trump steered clear of any confrontation with the Russian, going so far as to question American intelligence and last week's federal indictments that accused 12 Russians of hacking into Democratic email accounts to hurt Hillarious Clinton in 2016.

"I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.

"He just said it's not Russia. I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be," Trump said.

His skepticism drew a quick formal statement — almost a rebuttal — from Trump's director of national Intelligence, Dan Coats.

"We have been clear in our assessments of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and their ongoing, pervasive efforts to undermine our democracy, and we will continue to provide unvarnished and objective intelligence in support of our national security," Coats said.

Fellow GOP politicians have generally stuck with Trump during a year and a half of turmoil, but he was assailed as seldom before as he returned home Monday night from what he had hoped would be a proud summit with Putin.

Sen. John McCain of Arizona was most outspoken, declaring that Trump made a "conscious choice to defend a tyrant" and achieved "one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory." House Speaker Paul Ryan, who rarely criticizes Trump, stressed there was "no question" that Russia had interfered.

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul emerged as one of the president's few defenders from his own party. He defended Trump's skepticism to CBS News Tuesday citing the president's experience on the receiving end of "partisan investigations."

 

Back at the White House, Paul's comments drew a presidential tweet of gratitude. "Thank you @RandPaul, you really get it!" Trump tweeted.

In all, Trump's remarks amounted to an unprecedented embrace of a man who for years has been isolated by the U.S. and Western allies for actions in Ukraine, Syria and beyond. And it came at the end of an extraordinary trip to Europe in which Trump had already berated allies, questioned the value of the NATO alliance and demeaned leaders including Germany's Angela Merkel and Britain's Theresa May.

Trump and Putin had held lengthy talks before — on the sidelines of world leader meetings in Germany and Vietnam last year — but this was their first official summit and was being watched closely, especially following the announcement Friday of new indictments against 12 Russian intelligence officers accused of hacking Democratic emails to help Trump's campaign.

Putin said he had indeed wanted Trump to win the election — a revelation that might have made more headlines if not for Trump's performance — but had taken no action to make it happen.

"Yes, I wanted him to win because he spoke of normalization of Russian-U.S. ties," Putin said. "Isn't it natural to feel sympathy to a person who wanted to develop relations with our country? It's normal."

Associated Press writers Ken Thomas and Darlene Superville in Washington and Vladimir Isachenkov in Helsinki contributed to this report.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-putin-summit-20180717-story.html

 

Oh okay it was only a mistake.... What is this grammar school, did the dog eat your paper? This is the big stage... The world stage...

B/A

Edited July 17, 2018 by bostonangler

[Shabibilicious]

An honorable retired Marine General would never stand idly by and have OUR country served up to our adversaries without taking a stand.  As this article suggests, it must drive John Kelly absolutely crazy to have a man so completely undisciplined sitting at the head of the table.  As always, just my opinion.

 

http://theweek.com/speedreads/785457/john-kelly-reportedly-furious-over-trumps-press-conference-putin

 

 

GO RV, then BV

Edited July 18, 2018 by Shabibilicious

[umbertino]

Trump back-pedals on Russian meddling remarks after outcry

 

Republicans and Democrats attack president’s comments in press conference with Putin

 

 

Sabrina Siddiqui in Washington

Wed 18 Jul 2018 08.26 BST First published on Tue 17 Jul 2018 18.22 BST

 

 

 

Vid in link

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/17/donald-trump-putin-summit-republicans

[bostonangler]

25 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

john-kelly-reportedly-furious-over-trumps-press-conference

 

He's not the only one..... 

 

B/A

[caz1104]

22 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

 

I know negs don't bother you, Caz.....but it does bother me to see you receive one for being cordial to me.  I'll toss an emerald your way when I get some.  

 

GO RV, then BV 

lol thanks....I see u got 3 red eyes for just sayin that...my guess we both equally loved - lol

[caz1104]

22 hours ago, bostonangler said:

Thanks for sharing Umbertino.... Maybe this will help people understand Putin is not a good guy, like some seem to think.

 

B/A

Who EVER said he was?.....SaintHood is foreign term when discussing world leaders past or present. To think we (USA) has never meddled into other countries affairs and or elections is akin tow weraing blinders....but NO where on any MSM outlet will this be heard.

[bostonangler]

1 hour ago, caz1104 said:

Who EVER said he was?

 

 Maybe we should read some actual quotes 

 

QUOTE

VERB

1. repeat or copy out (a group of words from a text or speech), typically with an indication that one is not the original author or speaker.

 

 

of what our president has said about Mr. Putin... It is hard to follow because it changes with every breath.

 

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

 

B/A

[yota691]

[bostonangler]

18 minutes ago, yota691 said:

 

 

Good one sir...

 

B/A

[caz1104]

7 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

 Maybe we should read some actual quotes 

 

QUOTE

VERB

1. repeat or copy out (a group of words from a text or speech), typically with an indication that one is not the original author or speaker.

 

 

of what our president has said about Mr. Putin... It is hard to follow because it changes with every breath.

 

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

 

B/A

smh...SERIOUSLY?  What politician doesn't posture? Ur Boy Barry didn't day in day out. PLEASE I beg u ....be consistant with ur disdain.  

[bostonangler]

1 minute ago, caz1104 said:

smh...SERIOUSLY?  What politician doesn't posture? Ur Boy Barry didn't day in day out. PLEASE I beg u ....be consistant with ur disdain.  

 

Thanks for the witty response... Can you find where any president has said "I know him" "I have never met him" "We get along great" "I don't even know him" 

Does he simply lie, or does he have memory problems?

As for my disdain, it is equally shared for any elected official who betrays America... Now I know you will say something about Clinton, but she isn't the president. He is and that is what matters right now. At least to up to this point he hasn't put us in two wars and broke the bank... I will give him credit for that.

 

B/A

[coorslite21]

" betrays Amerca "......do tell?

[caz1104]

47 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Thanks for the witty response... Can you find where any president has said "I know him" "I have never met him" "We get along great" "I don't even know him" 

Does he simply lie, or does he have memory problems?

As for my disdain, it is equally shared for any elected official who betrays America... Now I know you will say something about Clinton, but she isn't the president. He is and that is what matters right now. At least to up to this point he hasn't put us in two wars and broke the bank... I will give him credit for that.

 

B/A

NOW u say ur disdain is because you believe TRUMP "betrayed" America..........what about the countless of other posts you made since Trump took office? Please not a peep from you the previous 8 years to the magnitude of what you bring daily now. I have no problem with ur HATE of Trump and ur tree hugging love for the left....just own it. People respect others opinions if ya....JUST OWN THEM.  To state otherwise is just  XX

[caz1104]

58 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Thanks for the witty response... Can you find where any president has said "I know him" "I have never met him" "We get along great" "I don't even know him" 

Does he simply lie, or does he have memory problems?

As for my disdain, it is equally shared for any elected official who betrays America... Now I know you will say something about Clinton, but she isn't the president. He is and that is what matters right now. At least to up to this point he hasn't put us in two wars and broke the bank... I will give him credit for that.

 

B/A

I'm sure over 240 plus years of this country there have been many....many....many...many times a politician including Presidents that have either mis-spoke or lied. To even suggest one provide proof of such is hillaryious in itself. Thus the invent of Fact Check

Edited July 18, 2018 by caz1104