Parliamentary power: Kurds did not provide a convincing justification for non-commitment to pay oil money

[umbertino]

 

Political leaders on both sides try to calm nerves as Iraq’s prime minister insists he has no plans for an attack

 

Martin Chulov

Friday 13 October 2017 19.13 BST

 

 

 

Iraqi tanks parked near a former Kurdish military position on Friday in the northern Iraqi town of Taza Khurmatu, near Iraq’s oil-rich province of Kirkuk.

Photograph: Marwan Ibrahim/AFP/Getty Images

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/13/kurdish-and-iraqi-troops-in-kirkuk-stand-off-amid-fears-of-new-violence

 

 

 

umb's note:  Just for a change they have Iraq, Turkey and Iran against them ( probably Syria too...)

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As usual, the description of armored vehicles is incorrect. Lazy journalism  - Those are US made M-109 Paladin ( Baqubah for Iraq )  Self-Propelled 155 Howitzer. They may have different names in the various countries the US has sold them to; but thats what we have here. Not a Tank ! 

 

The Kurds must be full blown lunatics if they think there's a chance they could ever succeed with this madness. Or, is this yet another attempt by the Press to falsely ramp up anxiety for headlines. Not to mention causing a ridiculous amount of stress for the population (s) involved. . . thus doing everything possible to destabilize an already tenuous situation.

[dinarham]

now what ? Iraqi dinar is kurd on one side as most people know  .No doubt this images and text could be cobbled up bullcrap

[ChuckFinley]

6 hours ago, 10 YEARS LATER said:

As usual, the description of armored vehicles is incorrect. Lazy journalism  - Those are US made M-109 Paladin ( Baqubah for Iraq )  Self-Propelled 155 Howitzer. They may have different names in the various countries the US has sold them to; but thats what we have here. Not a Tank ! 

 

The Kurds must be full blown lunatics if they think there's a chance they could ever succeed with this madness. Or, is this yet another attempt by the Press to falsely ramp up anxiety for headlines. Not to mention causing a ridiculous amount of stress for the population (s) involved. . . thus doing everything possible to destabilize an already tenuous situation.

I know what you mean. It is not space science there. You would think that if you were in country for any amount of time you would know the basics.  

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3 hours ago, ChuckFinley said:

I know what you mean. It is not space science there. You would think that if you were in country for any amount of time you would know the basics.  

 

You would think that would be the case. If they can't get that right, what else haven't they gotten ( or chosen to get ) right ? 

[soccercrazy]

The walk is different with the talk

[yota691]

Iran announces closure of border crossings with Iraqi Kurdistan

 

Economy News Baghdad: Iran has closed its land borders in the Kurdistan region of Iraq since Sunday morning, as confirmed by the President of Sulaymaniyah Chamber of Commerce Sirwan Mohammed in a press statement. The official said there were contacts between Erbil and Tehran over the border closure. Tehran has yet to confirm or deny these reports. Tehran, before the referendum on the separation of Kurdistan on 25 September last, the closure of its airspace in the face of Arbil, but it denied the closure of border crossings with land.   Views 224   Date Added 10/15/2017

 

[yota691]

US official: Erbil to cancel the results of the referendum

15/10/2017 12:00 am  Baghdad / Follow-up morning  US Defense Secretary James Matisse said the United States is closely monitoring what he called the tension between the Iraqi government and the Iraqi Kurdistan authorities over Kirkuk and is working to ensure that it does not escalate. He was on board a plane he was flying from Miami, where he was visiting US forces in Central and South America, "We are working for that, Secretary of State Rick Tillerson is leading the effort, but we are also working to ensure that we keep any possibility of a conflict out of the table," Matisse told reporters. "Asked about his message to leaders in Baghdad and the region, : "Everyone is still focused on defeating me We can not fight now, we do not want to develop into a shooting situation »For its part, France called on the federal government and Kurdistan to exercise restraint in the crisis in Kirkuk. The French Foreign Ministry said on its official website on Saturday: That "Paris closely follows the situation between Baghdad and Arbil," adding that "France reiterates its call for restraint and dialogue and calls on all parties to refrain from any initiative that would raise tension." The researcher at the Washington Institute for Middle East Policy, Michael Knights In an analysis, on Saturday, that the crisis in Kirkuk gives a clear opportunity for direct emergency talks between the federal government and the Kurdistan region. "Fortunately, there is a third more attractive option between Erbil and Baghdad," said Gates in the analysis published by the Washington Institute for Near Eastern Studies. "Since the September 25 referendum in Kurdistan, Baghdad was not ready to enter into unconditional negotiations with the Kurdistan Regional Government, To give up the vote in some way before returning to the negotiating table, but the crisis in Kirkuk gives Baghdad a clear opportunity for direct emergency talks with Arbil ». "These discussions could focus on the proposed settlement by the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan on temporary joint administration in Kirkuk, in parts controlled by the Union such as the main air base, the K1 military base, and some energy facilities, and these discussions will be good points for the development of the mechanism A joint security between the federal forces and the Peshmerga forces. "The analysis pointed out that" American mediators should call for measures to mitigate the escalation by freezing the dispatch of reinforcements to the region, the removal of heavy weapons such as artillery and tanks to a mutual distance, Nightly moves and bi-directional contacts on each side are aware of new troop movements. Priority should be given to a partial solution to the crisis in the short term, such as the return of federal military missions to PUK-controlled sites in Kirkuk instead of a huge deal that requires an immediate return of large federal forces To all regions

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Lawmakers support national government steps to deal with the region

15/10/2017 12:00 am  Legal expert confirms that the deployment of federal forces in Kirkuk (constitutional)  Baghdad / Omar Abdul Latif Parliamentary deputies and figures confirmed their stand with the condition of the executive authority, which calls on the Kurdistan Regional Government to abide by the "national constants" in return for starting a dialogue with them and resolving the crisis that broke out after the insistence on holding a referendum on secession on the twenty-fifth of last September. The MP for the parliamentary bloc of advocacy Mahdi al-Zubaidi: "The national constants must be adhered to by the region in accordance with the Constitution and laws in force in the state, calling for the abolition of the referendum held by the region and the consequences thereof, in addition to the withdrawal from the disputed areas entered by the Peshmerga after the occupation "Urged" to the provinces of Nineveh and Kirkuk,  adding Zubaidi, in an interview for "morning", "is supposed to simplify the federal government authority over all land and air ports and airports," calling for accountability of what they described as "separatist" leaders, according to the law to expose them alone the country to the risk of division .  Zubaidi said that "the decisions of parliamentary and government must be implemented by the region because it is part of Iraq and it has to submit to the Constitution and federal law." For his part, said MP from the independent parliamentary bloc Mohammed al-Shammari: The basis of dialogue between the center and the region is the national constants taken as decisions at the level of Parliament, and commissioned by the government after a referendum of the region, which triggered negative reactions regionally and internationally.  Al-Shammari said in an interview for "morning" that "the region deaf ears of the votes that advised him to cancel or postpone the referendum and struck by the wall and went solo to take a decision contrary to the Constitution and the will of all countries," noting that "the federal government alerted the advocates of secession on more than one occasion and a message Not to proceed with such a decision that threatens the unity of Iraq, which was one of the most important principles written by the Constitution, and the Kurds believed the people and leaders were the drafters of the Constitution and therefore, after they went solo decision to want to impose the will of the reality on the government and the world, Can never be dealt with " . Al-Shammari called on the executive authority to "abide by what it announced not to dialogue with the region until after the cancellation of the referendum and its consequences and any consequences." He stressed the need to return the territory to the central authority and subject to its laws under the powers approved by the Constitution for being part of Iraq.  He urged al-Shammari not to repeat the previous mistakes in dealing with the region and to overlook the excesses and violations in exchange for agreements and deals, calling for the completion of the policy of courtesies and compromises that have threatened the unity of Iraq. "  In turn, the legal expert Tariq Harb that what the government is taking at the moment is less than it imposes The constitution. He explained to the "morning" that "the presence of the forces of the province outside the places specified by the Constitution in Article 143 of it is an explicit violation as Article 58 / A of the Law of the State Administration of Iraq areas under the authority of the Peshmerga on 19/3/2003 before the entry of coalition forces to Iraq , But we see the presence of those forces in the territory of an area greater than the territory of the territory, "noting that the forces of the territory in their control of these territories act as" heir to Daash. " He added that "Kirkuk, with all its causes, aspects and villages, belongs to the federal government and the presence of the Peshmerga and the staff of the region in these places violates the Constitution. The presence of the staff of the region south of Arbil and the south of the city of Qosh is contrary to the provisions of the Constitution as long as the presence of the province ends in this city." The land by the federal forces of the army and police and popular mobilization and the fight against terrorism came in implementation of the provisions of the Constitution, especially what is stated in Article (143) clear that determines the presence of the territory in terms of land does not require the provision of this article to interpretation or interpretation.

[yota691]

Abadi: Our position is fixed by canceling the results of the referendum

15/10/2017 12:00 am  The government confirmed the continuation of the implementation of the decisions taken against the separatists   Baghdad / Sabah   reiterated Dr. Haider al - Abadi Prime Minister fixed the government 's position based on the law and the Constitution to cancel the results of the referendum and the imposition of federal authority in all areas of Iraq, and to maintain the unity of the country.  This comes at a time when the Presidency of the Republic denied on Saturday, press reports talked about the transfer of President Fuad Masum, a letter or conditions from the Iraqi government to the Kurdish leadership in the Kurdistan region of Iraq, during his current visit to the province of Sulaymaniyah, while revealed veteran Kurdish leader Barham Saleh approval The authorities of the region to "freeze the results of the referendum," the illegal, but a government source stressed the need to cancel and not freeze. The Prime Minister received on Saturday evening a delegation of the Iraqi Forces Alliance in all its components under the chairmanship of MP Salah Al-Jubouri. During the meeting, he welcomed the victories over the terrorist gangs and the liberation of the lands, in addition to the legal and constitutional procedures for the extension of the federal authority in the Kurdistan region and the disputed areas. Political and security situation in the country. "The government's firm stance on the law and the constitution to cancel the results of the referendum and the imposition of federal authority in all regions of Iraq and maintain the unity of the country," Abbadi said, according to a statement received by al-Sabah, stressing that "the government continues to implement the decisions it has taken in this regard." While the delegation of the Union of Forces "fully support the actions of the government and the position of Dr. Abbadi to maintain the unity of Iraq in respect of the unconstitutional referendum of the Kurdistan region, in addition to its support for the measures taken to impose federal authority in the Kurdistan region and disputed areas," noting that "This represents the official position of the coalition Forces ". In the meantime, the government spokesman Saad al-Hadithi said in a statement quoted by Al-Iraqiya news channel: "The doors of dialogue did not close, but the dialogue must be based on clear and well-founded principles so as not to be dragged into the maze of useless, Or perhaps to break the impasse for the government in the region after the crisis in which it placed itself by holding a referendum contrary to the   Constitution.  "We say if the KRG really wants to go to a constructive dialogue, it must provide a set of national constants that no dialogue can be based on. These are: the recognition of Iraq's unity, sovereignty, respect for the Iraqi constitution and Iraqi national sovereignty. On all the territory of the country, including in the region, and also counted the Constitution as a ceiling   for dialogue. "

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2017/10/15 (00:01 PM)   -   Number of readings: 609   -   Issue (4041)

 

 

McGuck arrives in Baghdad and Sulaimani in the province to contain the crisis of the referendum

 Baghdad / Range 
 

US President Barack Obama's envoy arrived in the capital Baghdad on a visit to focus on the escalating crisis between the federal government and the Kurdistan region. 
McGowork began his visit with a meeting with the head of the National Alliance, Ammar al-Hakim, while he is expected to meet with the prime minister and other officials in Baghdad. 
The office of the president of the National Alliance said in a statement received yesterday that he met with his office in Baghdad on Saturday, the envoy of the American President of the International Coalition to Counter Terrorism Brett Magurk, "and discussed with him a post-urgent and close to the end, Which face the unity of Iraq and the referendum crisis. " 
He stressed Hakim, according to the statement, "the need to preserve the unity of Iraq and the importance of adherence to the Constitution and the laws in force." 
For his part, renewed Magurk, "his country's support for Iraq in the face of terrorism," noting that "
This came in conjunction with a visit by the commander of the Quds Force General Qassim Soleimani to the city of Sulaymaniyah, and placed a wreath of roses on the shrine of President Jalal Talabani. 
Informed sources did not rule out that Soleimani's visit would be linked to the crisis between Baghdad and Erbil after the referendum was held at the end of last month. The sources said the visit was important because it came on the eve of violent clashes that broke out on the outskirts of Kirkuk between factions of the crowd and Peshmerga. 
In the meantime, Vice President Iyad Allawi, on Saturday, to convene an urgent national meeting to develop a clear road map to resolve the differences between Baghdad and Erbil.
"Since the emergence of the last crisis between the central government and the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) before, during and after the holding of the referendum on September 25, Iyad Allawi has spared no effort to heal the rift and try to resolve the differences," Allawi's office said in a statement. Preserving the unity, integrity and stability of Iraq. " 
The Office of the Vice President of the Republic "and from this point of view, the sovereignty of his initiative to resolve the national crisis, which has received local, Arab and regional attention." 
The Office of Allawi, according to the statement, "The calls for dialogue launched by the President of the region and the PUK and the brothers in the change and brother Barham Saleh, as well as statements of Haider Abadi, the Prime Minister, which refused to resort to force to resolve the current crisis, Under the roof of the Constitution to defuse tension and reach urgent solutions. "
"We take the opportunity today to emphasize the need to parallel bilateral dialogues between Baghdad and Erbil with an urgent national meeting to establish a clear road map for the future of the political process." 
Allawi stressed that "historic responsibility requires all parties to move urgently to calm the situation and defuse the crisis and tension in light of the challenges experienced by our people today, which will not be achieved only in accordance with a genuine dialogue and transparent within the framework of building a unified federal democratic Iraq, "We are reiterating our call now."

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Masoum met the leadership of the National Union: I am not a mediator from Abadi

 Baghdad / Range 
 

The presidency denied mediating President infallible in the transfer of a letter from the Iraqi government to the leadership of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and the Kurdistan Regional Government during his visit to Sulaymaniyah on Friday. 
The media office of the presidency, in a statement seen by the (range), that "categorically denies news that claimed that infallible holds a letter or requests or conditions of the Iraqi government or any official or semi-official to the leadership of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan or the Kurdistan Regional Government during his visit Emergency yesterday evening to the city of Sulaymaniyah. " 
The Presidency said that "the visit is aimed at examining the current crisis developments to crystallize urgent solutions that will ensure that our country and our people are safe from risks and ensure the search for peaceful solutions through a return to understanding and dialogue among the people of one people." that matter".
The sources said that the Prime Minister provided six conditions for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, in return for dialogue to manage Kirkuk by the National Union and the federal government, namely, the delivery of Kirkuk airport, and the handing over of the camp of Kiwan. The conditions also included the handing over of all oil wells, the removal of the governor of Kirkuk, Najmuddin Karim from his post, the handover of those who surrendered to the Peshmerga forces to the federal security authorities, as well as the handover of the areas to the Iraqi forces under the control of the Daash organization. 
In the same context, denied the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan sent a delegation to Baghdad to discuss with the federal government on the recent developments in Kirkuk. He confirmed that he had a meeting with President Masoum to discuss the military confrontation between the federal forces and Peshmerga.
"There is no visit to a delegation from the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan to Baghdad to discuss the current situation in the region, but there are efforts that will continue to calm the situation," the PUK said in a statement. 
In turn, confirmed the leader of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan Mullah Bakhtiar, the leadership of his party, "has held a meeting, Friday, with President Fuad Masum lasted for two hours on the situation in Kirkuk," noting that "the meeting was attended by Kosrat Rasul Ali, Omar Fattah, The Hero Khan, and Pavel Talabani, Talabani and Ghobad " 
continued Mullah Bakhtiar , " during the meeting , the exchange of views on the current situation well , "pointing out that" there will be an expanded meeting will take place in which to take the final position on the status quo. "

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The most prominent outcome of the agreement between Arbil and Baghdad .. Joint administration of Kirkuk and the replacement of its current governor

 

A source familiar with the Iraqi Patriotic Union of Kurdistan said Sunday that Baghdad and Erbil reached a solution to end the current crisis between the two parties.

The source said that the agreement, which was held in the city of Sulaymaniyah in the presence of President Fuad Masum, President of the Kurdistan region Massoud Barzani and the President of the Kurdistan Regional Government Nizrvan Barzani as well as leaders of the PUK and the Kurdistan Democratic Party, led to the joint administration of the city of Kirkuk, replacing the current governor of Kirkuk Another from the National Union. "

The source added that "the management of oil fields in Kirkuk will be shared, as was agreed on the return of the Iraqi army to the camps in which he was in Kirkuk before the entry of Dahesh."

It is noteworthy that a source familiar with the province of Sulaymaniyah said Sunday that President Fuad Masum met with Massoud Barzani in the province of Sulaymaniyah was held a meeting of leaders of the two parties and the Kurdistan Democratic Party and in the presence of the President of the Kurdistan Regional Government, Barzani, to discuss the repercussions of the referendum and find solutions to the crisis between Baghdad and Erbil.

The source said that "the leaders of the two parties and the Kurdistan Democratic Party held this morning, a meeting in the province in the presence of President Fuad Masum, Kurdish regional leaders Massoud Barzani and his government, Najran Barzani, as well as Hero Khan, wife of former President Jalal Talabani."

He added that it was "scheduled to witness the meeting discussed the crisis between the federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government, which erupted after the last referendum on the separation on the twenty-fifth of last September."

The President of the Republic Fuad Masum, on Friday, to the province of Sulaymaniyah to discuss the crisis between the federal government and the Kurdistan region and the ongoing repercussions in the province of Kirkuk.

 

Source: "Eye of Iraq News"

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The government of Abadi is silent and reveals the name of the body that launches rumors of the withdrawal of the Peshmerga from Kirkuk

15-10-2017 01:20 PM

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Denied the Information Office of Prime Minister Haider Abadi, on Sunday, give a deadline for the withdrawal of Peshmerga forces from the province of Kirkuk, pointing out that the federal government operates according to a national vision based on the Constitution, while he stressed that the Iraqi forces redeployed in Kirkuk and the areas where it was located before the tenth of June 2014. 

a spokesman for the office , Saad Sabri said in an interview with the channel 'Sky News Arab', 'There 's nothing confirms that we gave notice these conversations released by the leaders in the Peshmerga', adding 'We are working according to a national vision based on the Constitution. " 

Al-Hadithi added that "the Iraqi federal forces must redeploy, and they do so at this time in the province of Kirkuk and the areas where they were present before June 10, 2014, that is before the control of these areas.

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A crucial meeting held by the Kurds today under the leadership of Masoom in Sulaymaniyah

 

 Since 2017-10-15 at 10:31 (Baghdad time)

Baghdad Mawazine News

A political source said that President Fuad Masum, Massoud Barzani and senior PUK officials will meet this afternoon in Sulaymaniyah.

"This meeting will be crucial for the Kurds on the current crisis between Baghdad and Erbil," the source told Mawazine News.

This attempt to avoid armed clashes in the shadow of a severe crisis between Erbil and Baghdad since the organization of the referendum on 25 September on the independence of Kurdistan

 

[yota691]

Kurdish leaders discuss the events of Kirkuk and the referendum

 

 From 2017-10-15 at 12:30 (Baghdad time)

Special Mawazine News

The Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) member Suzanne Baker said on Sunday that Kurdish leaders were discussing the Kirkuk and the referendum.

"The meeting of the Kurdish leaders held today in Sulaymaniyah will discuss the latest events in the outskirts of Kirkuk," Bakr said in an interview with Mawazin News.

She added that "the meeting also seeks to avoid clashes and avoid problems, and will address the subject of the referendum."

Kurdish leaders held a meeting in Sulaymaniyah today to discuss the latest developments

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Kosert Messenger: Today's meeting discusses all possibilities to respond to the decisions of Baghdad

 

 Since 2017-10-15 at 12:37 (Baghdad time)

Baghdad Mawazine News

The Secretary-General of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and Vice-President of the province Kosrat Rasul, Sunday, that the meeting of Kurdish leaders discuss all possibilities to respond to the decisions of the Baghdad government.

Rasul told the reporter / Mawazin News / that "the meeting held by Kurdish leaders today, will be crucial," noting that "will discuss all possibilities in response to the decisions of Baghdad."

The Kurdish leaders held a meeting today in the presence of President Fuad Masum and Kurdistan Region Massoud Barzani to discuss the current situation in Kirkuk.

[nannab]

Well the meetings are coming fast and furious even Talabani's wife is attending them.

Thanks Yota and good morning DV

[yota691]

Kurdish leaders support freezing the results of the referendum and Masoud shows flexibility

 

 Since 2017-10-15 at 12:41 (Baghdad time)

Baghdad Mawazine News

Kurdish leaders on Sunday expressed their support for freezing the results of the Kurdistan referendum, while regional leader Massoud Barzani showed flexibility on the freeze.

The sources said the meeting of the Kurdish leaders held today, in Sulaymaniyah, to / Mawazin News /, "The President of the Republic Fuad Masum and leadership in the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan Hiro Ahmed and a number of leaders of the Union expressed during the meeting support for the freezing of the referendum," noting that "Barzani expressed Flexibility on freezing ".

She added that "infallible Kurdish leaders told the need to avoid the people of the Kurdistan war and maintain the gains."

The Kurdish leaders held a meeting in the city of Sulaimaniya in the presence of President Fuad Masum and the region Massoud Barzani, to discuss the latest developments.

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Sulaimani holds a meeting with Barzani in Dokan

 

 Since 2017-10-15 at 12:56 (Baghdad time)

Baghdad Mawazine News

The commander of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard General Qassem Soleimani, on Sunday, a meeting with the Kurdish leaders, most notably the President of the region Massoud Barzani, at the resort Dokan province of Sulaymaniyah.

An informed source told Mawazine News that Sulaymani is holding a meeting in Dokan City, Sulaymaniyah province, with a number of Kurdish leaders.

The source added that "the most prominent of these leaders the President of the region and the leader of the Kurdistan Democratic Party Massoud Barzani, and the Secretary-General of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and Vice President of the province Kosrat Rasul and the leadership of the Union Hero Ahmed."

The Kurdish leaders held today a meeting in the city of Sulaimaniya in the presence of President Fuad Masum and the region Massoud Barzani, to discuss the latest developments.

[nannab]

Please be true for once.   

Edited October 15, 2017 by nannab

[yota691]

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Baghdad is giving the region extra time and reiterating its failure to take action against Erbil

 

 Since 2017-10-15 at 13:02 (Baghdad time)

Special - Mawazine News

Lawmaker Kamel al-Zaidi said on Sunday that the government of Baghdad will have more time to cancel the results of the referendum, noting that Irbil's obstinacy and determination will only harm the Kurdish people.

"The insistence of the region on his opinion and not to submit to the conditions of the Baghdad government will only harm the Kurdish people," Zaidi told Mawazine News.

"The Baghdad government has become more of a way to cancel the results of the referendum," Zaidi said.

The Prime Minister Haider Abadi, that the cancellation of the results of the referendum in the Kurdistan region is still a condition for any dialogue

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The most important axes of Barzani meeting with infallible in Sulaymaniyah

15-10-2017 02:12 PM

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Revealed a prominent Kurdish source, on Sunday, the most important axes of Barzani meeting with the infallible in Sulaymaniyah, now held in the province.

 
The source said in a press statement that 'the meeting includes the political offices of the two parties, the National Democratic Party of Kurdistan, which is now in Dokan', pointing out that 'the meeting examines the results of the referendum in the Kurdistan region, as well as military rallies in the province of Kirkuk'.

 
The source, who asked not to be named, said the meeting also discussed 'the steps of the Kurdistan region for dialogue with Baghdad'.

 
He pointed out that the most important thing to be discussed in the meeting is 'to postpone the general parliamentary and presidential elections or to hold the elections of the Parliament of Kurdistan without the presidency of the region'.

The source pointed out that, 'there will be a second meeting after this meeting and will include all the Kurdish parties'.

 

[ChuckFinley]

Thanks Yota! Having my morning coffee and catching up with the drama. I often wondered how someone could follow those soap operas, but then again I have been dancing with this drama queen for 15 years.  

[ChuckFinley]

25 minutes ago, nannab said:

Please be true for once.   

I know what you mean. One minute this is wrapping up and next they have troops at the boarder. Never know how this is going to roll.