Reverse-Pumper Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm just curious because it seems like 99% of this website trashes him every chance they get. Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying that he's perfect but what exactly did he do in particular that makes you think he's so terrible? Again he's not perfect. But compare the US now to the day he got in office. 1. We were in recession -- We're not anymore 2. It was very hard to find jobs (Losing 700,000 jobs per month... So I hear at least, is that accurate?) -- The unemployment rate has dropped dramatically 3. We were heavily at war with Iraq/Afghanistan etc. -- Not so much anymore 4. And I know most hate Obamacare (Why?) -- From my perspective (I could be wrong because I haven't researched) shouldn't it be just rich people complain about this? I don't know exactly where the money comes from but I DO know that me and a lot of friends and relatives have been able to use VERY MUCH NEEDED health care that we would not have had access to under most of Obama's competitors. I also remember the propaganda saying that he was a "muslim terrorist" or something like that and that he would use that to take away everyone's guns and terrorize the country. Which has proven to be far from truth all together. So I know that it's a good chance I'll get destroyed on this board, but I'm just asking a simple question based on my own personal perspective. I'm not republican or democrat, I think that both sides are F'd up in their own way. I just want honest and direct answers as to some specific things that you think he has done that has ruined this country. Or even better, something that he's done that has negatively effected you personally? I'm sure you all can educate me on this because of how strongly you feel about this subject. So I ask, Please give me specifics and facts. What was going right here in the US that Obama has destroyed since he's been in office? Thank you. 5 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra0101 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Do some research and you will find the truth. I would take the time and give you answers to each statement, but if you can't see what is going on in the government right now you will never see reality. As for obama care aka affordable care act, you really need to learn. I have friends who have stated that their coverages range from $250-350 weekly with a $6000 deductible, but you can get the lowest costing one where you get hardly no coverage at all for a couple hundred a month. You WILL lose your DOCTOR. My wife used to be a medical transcriptionist,. but part of the socialist medical care law was that doctors had to stop using transcriptionist and use their own recording program. So that put my wife and tens of thousands of over medical transcriptionist out of work. America hardly makes any products here in the states due to the fact the EPA regulations and high taxes are making companies move overseas. And apparently the government does not mind other countries giving slave wages and sending their crap back over here and selling it and making 1000% on their products made overseas.Besides hussein obama being a Socialist/Marxist and a liar and dividing the country racially, economically and politically, he's alright I guess. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasMike1958 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) You asked for it.....you got it. As for #1 We may not be in recession, but the economy sure as ellhay is isn't growing like it should. Not to mention the increase in welfare rolls and people on public assistance since he took office. As for #2 Ask the millions who have given up trying to find a job. They are not counted in the numbers. Percentage is deceiving. As for #3 ISIS had been running rampant there until recently because he pulled our troops out too early. Which is exactly what the military experts said he should not do. As for #4 ObamaCare has caused not only my premiums to go up, but my deductibles as well. I cant afford to get some of the things I used to get because of the prohibitive costs. Lets discuss your first statement....compare the US to the first day he took office. He has added more debt in less than 8 years than all the previous presidents combined. I am not even sure Trump can fix that one. Back to #4 Businesses have cut back on either workers or their hours or both because of the requirements of ObamaCare. There are many other things that I could share, but it would take hours to type and I have to get ready for work.. Do I hate President Obama??? No. Hate is a very strong word. I strongly disagree with how he has led our great nation. But I blame the masses who were duped the first time yet turned right around and voted him in again for 4 more years as much as I do his leadership, if you want to call it that. Our nation is a laughing stock in different parts of the world. I can only pray that we get it right in November. Edited January 21, 2016 by TexasMike1958 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 He is a JOKE, if you can't see it you are blind! 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) heheheheh I'm just curious because it seems like 99% of this website trashes him every chance they get. your probably right on that Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying that he's perfect but what exactly did he do in particular that makes you think he's so terrible? do you read Executive Orders? Again he's not perfect. But compare the US now to the day he got in office. 1. We were in recession -- We're not anymore You are right it is a Depression that is being artificially propped up until they decide to pull the plug 2. It was very hard to find jobs (Losing 700,000 jobs per month... So I hear at least, is that accurate?) -- The unemployment rate has dropped dramatically You have to look at the metrics involved in the deception that the US government creates, for unemployment lets have a gander at how they come up with the unemployment rate... http://www.demos.org/blog/8/21/15/what-real-unemployment-rate this shows you the fake rates, which is u-3, look at u-6 and then look at why this guy says its above 40%... dude they manipulate everything 3. We were heavily at war with Iraq/Afghanistan etc. -- Not so much anymore Goodness!!! Here are the countries obama has been in... Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria. And i can't attest right off for all the countries but i know he sidestepped congress to go into libya 4. And I know most hate Obamacare (Why?) -- From my perspective (I could be wrong because I haven't researched) shouldn't it be just rich people complain about this? I don't know exactly where the money comes from but I DO know that me and a lot of friends and relatives have been able to use VERY MUCH NEEDED health care that we would not have had access to under most of Obama's competitors. First off consider there is a real problem when you push/force people to get insurance when you and congress aren't subject to it!!! secondly my dad is a poor man one of those it was supposed to protect, but somehow the cheapest he can find is 450.00 a month...my dad doesn't even go to hospitals he duct tapes everything...Not only that Do You have an Understanding at how corrupt The AMA, ACS, And Pharma is ??? What hospitals? Its where you go to die!!!!!!!!!!!! I also remember the propaganda saying that he was a "muslim terrorist" or something like that and that he would use that to take away everyone's guns and terrorize the country. Which has proven to be far from truth all together. Ok you gotta see the tactics, remember when he says we are going to use the "no fly list" and say those people can't have guns???!! What??!! They put fn 5 yr olds on there...so thats one way, btw you can't even find out why you were placed on one if you do get on one, TWO, they go after "disorders" if you went to an "outpatient treatment" center cuz you had an eating problem, your yass can't technically own a gun!!!!!!!!! Yea!! Its absurd btw one of their latest additions to the "psychiatric conditions" is ODD...Occupation Defiance Disorder (have you ever got pi$$ed at work?) also now hes limiting the licensed dealers on how many guns they can sell.... So I know that it's a good chance I'll get destroyed on this board, but I'm just asking a simple question based on my own personal perspective. I'm not republican or democrat, I think that both sides are F'd up in their own way. Me too They are all a part of the Saturnian/Satanist Cult, ALL OF THEM CORPORATE OWNED TOOLS I just want honest and direct answers as to some specific things that you think he has done that has ruined this country. Or even better, something that he's done that has negatively effected you personally? I'm sure you all can educate me on this because of how strongly you feel about this subject. So I ask, Please give me specifics and facts. What was going right here in the US that Obama has destroyed since he's been in office? Just start reading the Executive Orders...you will never be the same...here is a small taste... EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions. There is also an executive order to force quarantine you for upper respiratory problems...WHY? Are they gonna spray some shiz? BTW they are all crazy, this is just a quick few I found with one little search, btw do you know what a terrorist is?! Its you and me brother...Just read his EOs which by the way means congress was bypassed which means it didn't go through the people, but not like that mattered cuz they are corporate owned. True Constitutionalist know that this doesn't apply to them... which is why the militia is in oregan taking out governemnt surveillance systems... Thank you. WITH HIS EOs alone, you are forced to ask what in the he77 are they planning for???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited January 21, 2016 by Peace 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indraman Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 heheheheh WITH HIS EOs alone, you are forced to ask what in the he77 are they planning for???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace, EXCELLENT response! Indy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxinjersey Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Yep... what TexasMike said... well done TM!!! And you too Kumby! Reverse-Pumper... if this is a serious post, you and those that think as you do ARE the problem... either extremely naive or just not-informed. And if you truly need others to tell you what is going on... you shouldn't vote! Do your homework.... there's a reason 99% of us here feel as we do... we're informed, as well as understand the Constitution. How does it feel to be of the 1%??? We'll welcome your evolution, if possible... sooner the better! Personally, I went over the edge with the ACA (Obamacare)... I am the poster citizen for what is wrong with it. And as far as I'm concerned, it is a clear violation of my Constitutional Rights, as well as inhibiting my personal right to my personal pursuit of happiness, through it's forced purchase and participation, at a cost that is prohibitive. And if such is for me... it is then also for you, and the rest of the citizenry. Period. It is "legalized" extortion! I had a GREAT premium for less than $300/mo. I was FORCED to abandon it (as was my provider Horizon BCBS to provide it)... then forced to purchase a new one at $600/mo. with higher deductibles... THEN it was again raised to $700/mo (now). I have no say in the matter and MUST BUY IT, or I am breaking the law... or paying a fine to be without insurance (WHICH I WANT)... I have no other options, other than to jump through hoops to get a government subsidy, which I don't qualify for anyway. And even if I did... IT'S STEALING... from every tax payer in this state/country. I will not steal from my neighbor, nor any other citizen. It'd be the same asking all of DV to pitch in and help pay for my insurance! FURTHER... the care any of us would receive IF enrolled through the ACA Marketplace would be substandard to that of my own chosen doctors. Understand, that the doctors have the choice as to whether they want to participate (who they treat)! FURTHER... once enrolled, the GOV'T has your medical information! FURTHER... once you're enrolled, you might not be able to get off the subsidy to enroll directly if you so desired! FURTHER YET... there's plenty more... I'm a RELUCTANT expert on this subject! If you don't think that the impact of the ACA Law doesn't have a negative effect on my philosophical and financial freedom... you're wrong. It directly impacts my quality of life... intellectually, emotionally, and financially!!! Triple whammy, in the least! Rant over... you asked! Edited January 21, 2016 by Jaxinjersey 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chess Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 PEACE....great post...FOR THAT, I'll be a fellow "Flatlander" for a day!! ALSO, 14 trillion more in deficit added. AND, for once stop blaming Bush! Bush had an ALL Dem Congress that approved the Iraq entrance. Hillwhorey and Obamaturd were in that Congress! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronus Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hmm, let me think about Mr. Executive Order 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Machine Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm just curious because it seems like 99% of this website trashes him every chance they get. Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying that he's perfect but what exactly did he do in particular that makes you think he's so terrible? Again he's not perfect. But compare the US now to the day he got in office. 1. We were in recession -- We're not anymore 2. It was very hard to find jobs (Losing 700,000 jobs per month... So I hear at least, is that accurate?) -- The unemployment rate has dropped dramatically 3. We were heavily at war with Iraq/Afghanistan etc. -- Not so much anymore 4. And I know most hate Obamacare (Why?) -- From my perspective (I could be wrong because I haven't researched) shouldn't it be just rich people complain about this? I don't know exactly where the money comes from but I DO know that me and a lot of friends and relatives have been able to use VERY MUCH NEEDED health care that we would not have had access to under most of Obama's competitors. I also remember the propaganda saying that he was a "muslim terrorist" or something like that and that he would use that to take away everyone's guns and terrorize the country. Which has proven to be far from truth all together. So I know that it's a good chance I'll get destroyed on this board, but I'm just asking a simple question based on my own personal perspective. I'm not republican or democrat, I think that both sides are F'd up in their own way. I just want honest and direct answers as to some specific things that you think he has done that has ruined this country. Or even better, something that he's done that has negatively effected you personally? I'm sure you all can educate me on this because of how strongly you feel about this subject. So I ask, Please give me specifics and facts. What was going right here in the US that Obama has destroyed since he's been in office? Thank you. oh dear, after 6 years, 6 months and 26 days in office and countless failures your still flying the Obama flag ....... that was some strong Koolaid. here's some pictures to look at, I figure you're that kind of person. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronus Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 To respond to your questions 1) We are still in a recession after him being in office for 8 years 2) If you actually believe the jobless reports on the news then you have to change the channel 3) Still at war 4) not worth commenting on 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV ME Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hate is a little strong, but I will admit to despising him with every fiber of my being. Why, not enough time to list all the reasons but here are a few of the biggies that I did not see in the above. He took an oath of office and declared he would preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. His attempt to illegally(there’s that word again) rewrite the immigration laws and refusal to enforce existing laws flies in the face of his oath, so I can only assume he was not telling the truth when he swore the oath. I would rather someone spit in my face rather than lie to me, and since Obummer has lied so many times I can’t believe a word he says. The amount of lies told while ramming ACA down our collective throats are incalculable. Coupled with the fact that he has illegally used a line item veto to put off the most egregious parts of his “signature legislation” putting off the pain to his constituents but screwing everyone else. Reminder, the line item veto was passed by Republican controlled congress in 1996 and immediately challenged by Robert Byrd (D-WV) and ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS. So this is just another example of Obummer ignoring the law and doing as he pleases. So much for us being a nation of laws and not men. It has been almost 6 years since We The People learned that the Obummer administration was illegally running guns to Mexico while publicly stating that our “lax gun laws” were the reason for the violence in Mexico, so we needed to have more gun laws (to fix a problem he instigated). Then to claim executive privilege in an attempt to keep the truth from seeing the light of day. So much for defending the Constitution. Richard Nixon was despised for, among other things, discussing using the IRS against his political enemies. Obummer actually did, and when caught his administration allowed the destruction of evidence, again illegally. US taxpayers were forced to give GM $16,600,000,000 to keep the company going. This was after he violated bankruptcy laws in order to screw the actual stockholders and bail out the UAW. Obummer has been the most racist President since LBJ. Race relations have been set back to near 1960’s levels, but if he had a son he would look like a thug (or at least a thug wanna be). “You didn’t build that.” YES I DID! As Commander in Chief, he is the only one who can authorize military force be used. It has been testified that there were several assets that could have been called up to help quell the terrorist attack in Benghazi, but instead Obummer blamed a video, going so far as to use $70,000 taxpayer dollars to make an apology commercial that played in Pakistan. All the while knowing that he was lying and it was another terrorist attack. His actions, or lack of reactions, regarding terrorism has emboldened our enemies all around the world and we will pay a heavy price for years to come. Why would anyone think he’s a muslim. After all, most non-muslims would also say that the sweetest sound they have ever heard is the call to morning prayer. Wait a minute, now that I think about, only a muslim would say that. There is no reason not to believe Obummer when he says he is a Christian, except for all the times he has been caught lying. Those are a few reasons that come to mind that I did not see above and I am sure I can list more but must get back to earning enough to pay for others Obummercare. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog53 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Really Dude? You must be living in a alternative universe . His admin is corrupt. He lies and has no integrity. He does nothing to help our vets He consistently tries to destroy our 2nd amendment He breaks constitutional law He regulates anything and everything he can He apologizes for what he believes is Americas short comings to rest of the world. He has a pen and a phone He trades high value and dangerous war criminals for one pissy a$$ deserter He caters to the muslim brother hood and Muslim community and tells the rest of us to pi$$ off. He loses jobs to overseas markets. And on top of all that I hear his short game sucks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) And what dog is not telling you...is he does not trust a guy who wears no socks with his slacks I do not trust a guy who should look like this or does this Edited January 21, 2016 by SnowGlobe7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chess Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 ...brings further meaning to the word "disingenuous"......... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sentinel7 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Supporting invasion of the United States by illegal aliens from Mexico who come over get welfare and work under table it’s called double dipping taking jobs from Americans I deliver materials to job sites whole sub divisions going up and you can’t find anyone that speaks English Wholesale importation of terrorist into this country and supporting CAIR which is trying to bring sharia law into this country Benghazi Fast and furious – was an attempt to register all firearms IRS Mandating what our kids should eat. Solyndra and other shovel ready jobs Iran nuclear deal 150 billion dollars to support terrorist Obama care those of us who have to pay for it do not find it as affordable those that don’t 19 trillion dollars in dept While the rest of us are trying to keep our heads above water he spends 70 million on vacations Total disregard of the Constitution and the bill of rights Stay tuned to this thread more to come No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosterbglee Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 What Sno brought in is enough for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 PEACE....great post...FOR THAT, I'll be a fellow "Flatlander" for a day!! ALSO, 14 trillion more in deficit added. AND, for once stop blaming Bush! Bush had an ALL Dem Congress that approved the Iraq entrance. Hillwhorey and Obamaturd were in that Congress! Exactly 24 hours...Noted!!!!!!!!!!!! 3:43 pm 1/22/ 2015 i don't want no shiz till then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose 57 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Hate is a very strong word with a lot of different interpretations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Peace, EXCELLENT response! Indy no prob i could have kept going but i wanted to get back to my saturn cult videos peace to us all Yep... what TexasMike said... well done TM!!! And you too Kumby! Reverse-Pumper... if this is a serious post, you and those that think as you do ARE the problem... either extremely naive or just not-informed. And if you truly need others to tell you what is going on... you shouldn't vote! Do your homework.... there's a reason 99% of us here feel as we do... we're informed, as well as understand the Constitution. How does it feel to be of the 1%??? We'll welcome your evolution, if possible... sooner the better! Personally, I went over the edge with the ACA (Obamacare)... I am the poster citizen for what is wrong with it. And as far as I'm concerned, it is a clear violation of my Constitutional Rights, as well as inhibiting my personal right to my personal pursuit of happiness, through it's forced purchase and participation, at a cost that is prohibitive. And if such is for me... it is then also for you, and the rest of the citizenry. Period. It is "legalized" extortion! I had a GREAT premium for less than $300/mo. I was FORCED to abandon it (as was my provider Horizon BCBS to provide it)... then forced to purchase a new one at $600/mo. with higher deductibles... THEN it was again raised to $700/mo (now). I have no say in the matter and MUST BUY IT, or I am breaking the law... or paying a fine to be without insurance (WHICH I WANT)... I have no other options, other than to jump through hoops to get a government subsidy, which I don't qualify for anyway. And even if I did... IT'S STEALING... from every tax payer in this state/country. I will not steal from my neighbor, nor any other citizen. It'd be the same asking all of DV to pitch in and help pay for my insurance! FURTHER... the care any of us would receive IF enrolled through the ACA Marketplace would be substandard to that of my own chosen doctors. Understand, that the doctors have the choice as to whether they want to participate (who they treat)! FURTHER... once enrolled, the GOV'T has your medical information! FURTHER... once you're enrolled, you might not be able to get off the subsidy to enroll directly if you so desired! FURTHER YET... there's plenty more... I'm a RELUCTANT expert on this subject! If you don't think that the impact of the ACA Law doesn't have a negative effect on my philosophical and financial freedom... you're wrong. It directly impacts my quality of life... intellectually, emotionally, and financially!!! Triple whammy, in the least! Rant over... you asked! did i see you calling someone else kumbaya the other day... say it aint so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxinjersey Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 no prob i could have kept going but i wanted to get back to my saturn cult videos peace to us all did i see you calling someone else kumbaya the other day... say it aint so No darling... I do reference the word kumbaya quite often, but you are my only Kumby! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyangel Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Reverse-Pumper, are you kidding me, you really don't grasp the damage that has been done by this individual!!!! Hate is a strong word and I'm sure Mr. o has use this harsh, strong word at one time or another. His corrupted verbiage is causing the division of this Nation, you have some researching to do, or you can remain ignorant (uneducated) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I would tell you more about it, but you have to pass it first to read it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxinjersey Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I would tell you more about it, but you have to pass it first to read it Snow... that's funny! I wonder if there's any mention of CatCare in Obamacare?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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