Bondlady Chat - Oct 16

Trimark · October 17, 2012

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[bondLady] i have an announcement

[bondLady] all i can think of right now is how do i explain what all i've been told

[bondLady] i've been taking calls

[bondLady] trying to get the information for you all

[bondLady] different time zones you know

[bondLady] i've talked directly to people in iraq also

[bondLady] and i've also talked to some man i can't even repeat his name

[bondLady] couldn't understand it to start with

[bondLady] i've also talked to two brokers

[bondLady] and a bank in iraq

[bondLady] also a bank in dubai

[bondLady] i don't jack with tellers so no it was higher up

[bondLady] i hate to even say any of this stuff i'm about to

[bondLady] because it makes me feel like some of those gurus out there that spout crap out all the time i talked to bankers bla bla bla

[bondLady] but i'm not going to lie

[bondLady] so if i tell you this stuff

[bondLady] i won't say names even if i could pronounce them

[bondLady] also i've talked to ali (dinar trade)

[bondLady] i'm pretty shocked to say the least

[bondLady] and we have to always remind ourselves also

[bondLady] that everyone is innocent until proven guilty

[bondLady] and if whats said is true

[bondLady] no matter who they are

[bondLady] then they must and should have their day in court

[bondLady] it appears

[bondLady] there may be some truth

[bondLady] to shabibi being involved

[bondLady] i'm shocked as you all will be by the time i'm through

[bondLady] but theres a pretty big possibility of it

[bondLady] there was an auction

[bondLady] that went through the cbi

[bondLady] that registered something like 4,000,000 or something to that affect

[bondLady] but there was only like 4,000 that could be accounted for

[bondLady] might even been more than 4 million

[bondLady] this was what a jordanian banker tried to explain to me, but it was very difficult to understand, language barrier, so the amounts of any of this weren't correct, but...........the song remained the same...if this is indeed so then there was corruption going on unless you can explain why in the wall street journal they named like 27 billion on imports paid out but only 4 billon recorded....the banker was trying to tell me but i couldn't get the numbers right

[bondLady] this is one incident out of several

[bondLady] about money that was supossedly paid for imports through the cbi

[bondLady] imports never received

[bondLady] money never found

[bondLady] the bottom line but not the end of this chat

[bondLady] is shabibi is the central bank govoner

[bondLady] the buck stops there

[bondLady] after talking to many people today

[bondLady] they believe that shabibi was set to rd the currency

[bondLady] he had as much said that

[bondLady] and from the articles we've seen

[bondLady] we saw that coming but to release the coins would have had to have a rate and not 1166

[bondLady] its being said

[bondLady] that for 3 yrs

[bondLady] shabibi has purposly kept the dinar market rate lower than it should have been

[bondLady] making literally millons and millons on what we might call a spread but different

[bondLady] for example

[bondLady] only an example

[bondLady] say 3 yrs ago

[bondLady] the market price for 1 million dinar

[bondLady] approx $800 something

[bondLady] when in reality its was under $700

[bondLady] understand?

[bondLady] that many people think

[bondLady] he purposly kept it under valued

[bondLady] and took the differance

[bondLady] many politicians

[bondLady] in iraq

[bondLady] did not want a rd or a lop

[bondLady] if this would have happened

[bondLady] then he supossedly would have been able to export the currency a lot more for less and sell high

[bondLady] i've told you all many times this one thing

[bondLady] the corruption in iraq is horrid

[bondLady] and sadly enough

[bondLady] we had that going for us in this investment

[bondLady] the corrupt would never want a lop

[bondLady] they would want an rv

[bondLady] hence helping us

[bondLady] and them too no doubt

[bondLady] it's being said

[bondLady] shabibi did want to rd basically lop

[bondLady] and they sat out to prove he was corrupt

[bondLady] but because the cbi is independant

[bondLady] no one could see whats going on behind the cbi walls

[bondLady] it now appears

[bondLady] shabibi has indeed been replaced

[bondLady] several are telling me

[bondLady] that this guy who replaced him

[bondLady] is for an rv

[bondLady] he is 1 of 100's that want an rv that are involved in this

[bondLady] arrest warrant thing

[bondLady] the man taking over

[bondLady] im going to be showing u several things bear with me

[bondLady] The Iraqi government abruptly announced the appointment of a new central bank chief to replace Sinan al-Shabibi, a respected and politically independent technocrat who has held the position for more than nine years. Mr. Shabibi, who is currently out of the country, and more than a dozen other officials at the institution are being investigated for alleged improprieties involving capital requirements for local banks and foreign-currency auctions overseen by the central bank, said a government spokesman and a member of the parliamentary committee probing the charges.

[bondLady] Iraq Dinar News: Iraq Names New Central Bank Chief (WALL STREET JOURNAL) 10/16/2012 0 Comments Posted on October 16, 2012

[bondLady] The government spokesman Ali al-Mussawi said the council of ministers on Tuesday named Abdul-Baset Turki, the head of the Supreme Audit Board, as an interim central bank governor after a court ruling ordered the removal of Mr. Shabibi from his post to face the charges. A spokesman for Iraq’s judiciary couldn’t be reached for comment and several attempts to contact Mr. Shabibi by telephone were unsuccessful. The manner of Mr. Shabibi’s dismissal was viewed by many as another move by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to consolidate his powers. Mr. Maliki, who already controls the country’s military and security forces, has been consistently accused by his political opponents of laying the foundations for a new dictatorship in Iraq. He has sparred on several occasions in the past with Mr. Shabibi over the limits and scope of the central bank’s independence. Under the current Iraqi constitution the central bank is one of four “financially and administratively independent institutions” regulated by law.

[bondLady] “This is another sign that things are not going in the right direction and that politics is affecting everything,” said Mahmoud Othman, a senior parliament member from the Kurdish bloc. Bassem Antoine, an Iraqi economist, said the ouster of Mr. Shabibi was motivated by Mr. Maliki’s desire to exercise more control over the bank’s reserves, estimated to reach $63 billion this year. “This is bad for Iraq’s reputation,” Mr. Antoine said. But Haitham al-Jubouri, a lawmaker from Mr. Maliki’s coalition and member of the committee that has been investigating the central bank’s activities for months, defended the move.

[bondLady] Mr. Jubouri said his committee was troubled by the central bank’s contradictory and inconsistent rulings regarding capital requirements for local financial institutions. The committee also uncovered alleged fraud and money laundering in the central bank’s auctions to sell foreign currency to Iraqi importers, according to Mr. Jubouri. He said in the first eight months of 2012 the bank sold nearly $27 billion in hard currency for import purposes, but only $4.5 billion in products actually came into the country during the same period. The Iraqi dinar, which currently trades at around 1,200 to the dollar, fell as low as 1,280 earlier this year amid allegations that neighboring Iran and Syria, both subject to international sanctions that restrict their access to hard currency, were using local fronts to participate in the Iraqi central bank’s auctions.

[bondLady] In an interview with The Wall Street Journal at the end of May, Mr. Shabibi said he was facing difficulties launching a redenomination of the Iraqi dinar due to government objections. “There were some reservations by some colleagues and the council of ministers said that we should hold off,” said at the time the soft-spoken Mr. Shabibi, who hails from a prominent Baghdadi Shiite merchant family. He became central bank chief shortly after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. Previously he worked for 21 years as senior economist with the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development http://online.wsj.co...2607619044.html

[bondLady] this is from the wall street journal

[bondLady] issued today

[bondLady] heres the next thing

[bondLady] Cabinet to vote on assigning Abdul to manage CBI rather than Shabibi 10/16/2012 0 Comments Haider Ali Jawad - 10/16/2012 - 4:37 pm | Hits: 111Said Ali al-Moussawi, media adviser to Prime Minister cabinet vote on assigning Abdul Basit Turki of Directors of the Central Bank until further notice.Moussawi said in a statement to the prime minister and received news agency Buratha a copy of it on Tuesday that "the Council of Ministers today voted to assign Abdul Basit Turki to manage the central bank to further notice, the successor to the Shabibi." The Integrity Commission has the Integrity Commission ordered the arrest of Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi and 16 other officials, including the deputy governor of the Central Bank the appearance of Mohammed Saleh. http://translate.goo...athanews.com%2F

[bondLady] heavy

[bondLady] i had these but

[bondLady] being iraq

[bondLady] had to try to confirm some or as much as i could

[bondLady] kindof hard to do from oklahoma

[bondLady] but i found out as much as i could per the legitimacy of these articles

[bondLady] they do indeed appear to be true

[bondLady] but as i said

[bondLady] everyone should be considered to be innocent until proven guilty

[bondLady] and if their guilty then no matter who you are you should face justice

[bondLady] so now let me bring in something else

[bondLady] at the the beginning of this chat

[bondLady] i got off the phone with ali from dinar trade

[bondLady] as of about 15 min ago

[bondLady] released this statement after he contacted some very high up people in iraq an some countries surrounding iraq including im sure a higher up person than i ever got to talk to in dubai

[bondLady] here is what was posted on facebook: www.facebook.com/dinartrade Its appears that Shabibi is the one causing all of the delays with the currency by pushing for the redenomination for the last three years. In my opinion, maybe he was trying to hide the fact of his corruption. The article below will explain: Iraq Dinar News: Iraq Names New Central Bank Chief https://www.dinartra...ral-bank-chief/

[bondLady] ok

[bondLady] so now you all basically know what i've been working on all day

[bondLady] pleading with you all to let this play out and as i found time to try and figure out all this mess

[bondLady] and this is all i've got for now

[bondLady] but i will still be all over it

[bondLady] and will keep you advised

[bondLady] we don't know what is going happen

[bondLady] we have no control

[bondLady] but knowledge in itself is powerful

[bondLady] and i strive for truth and knowledge

[DogzNova] The first art dated 10/16 said... Mr. Shabibi, who is currently out of the country

[shredd] BondLady tyvm....what a shift in thinking

[shredd] 180 degrees

[bondLady] ino dn

[bondLady] but the other 1 named the new gov

[bondLady] and i did get that confirmation

[bondLady] he has been replaced

[bondLady] its true

[bondLady] and he does have a warrant

[cowboy1] so it is true then..... amazing

[bondLady] yes

[bondLady] 100%

[bondLady] but like i said

[bondLady] let it play out

[bondLady] from what i understand

[bondLady] the new gov

[bondLady] is all about a rv and not an rd

[shredd] Iraq's Cabinet voted Tuesday to temporarily replace al-Shabibi with Abdul-Basit Turki, the head of the Board of Supreme Audit, until the investigation is complete, according to Ali al-Moussawi, a spokesman for the prime minister.

[bondLady] and making the currency worth more

[bondLady] and not holding down the rate

[bondLady] things will come to light soon enough

[bondLady] don't worry about dates and rates right now please

[bondLady] let this play out

[bondLady] hold on to your dinars

[bondLady] we're imo about to see them gain wealth

[bondLady] but again

[bondLady] no one knows

[bondLady] iraq is so corrupt

[bondLady] its a way of life and culture to them

[bondLady] the new gov can do whatever he wants to while he fills that temporary position

[bondLady] it will still be binding

[bondLady] he is the cbi gov

[shredd] turki

[bondLady] if he rv's

[bondLady] its binding

[bondLady] no take backs

[bondLady] he is the cbi gov, Abdul Basit Turki

[bondLady] like i told you all many times

[bondLady] with so many corrupt there

[bondLady] they would never want a lop

[bondLady] and is i guess why they were fighting shabibi so hard in doing it

[bondLady] they wanted it to ri back to what it was

[bondLady] i doubt that will happen

[bondLady] but its possible

BondLady] they would want it on the plus though, i'm almost sure of it

[bondLady] but to say how much nobody would know

[bondLady] except the cbi gov

[bondLady] this is way way bigger than any of us or anything we've ever seen in this investment

BAGHDAD / obelisk: Iraq's Council of Ministers approved, on Tuesday, the recommendations of the Commission study the fluctuation of the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar, which provides coordination, consultation and exchange of information in conjunction with the dismissal of the governor of the central bank.

He said Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh and got "obelisk", a copy of which, "The Council of Ministers held its 45-normal Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and the presence of all ministers, approved the recommendations of the study fluctuation Iraqi dinar exchange rate of coordination, consultation and exchange of information between the Central Bank of Iraq and the Council Ministers on fiscal and monetary policies and in accordance with the Constitution. "

Dabbagh said, "The Council decided to give banks a greater role for banks to organize the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar, through a mechanism to prevent the use of funds for purposes other than the declared, along with building the full administration of the Office of money laundering and combating the financing of terrorism."

The Iraqi government spokesman said the Cabinet stressed "taking proposals bank into consideration on the formation of the money laundering and the formation of a committee headed by the BSA and the membership of the ministries of interior, finance, trade and Iraqi Central Bank and the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers shall audit and review processes sell the currency for the purpose of locating bugs" .

According to Skinner committed the Council of Ministers "Central Bank to provide a quarterly report on its supervision on the banking companies authorized external switch, with an emphasis on the oversight role of the Supreme Audit scrutiny currency sale transactions to customers and goods entering the result."

The Cabinet decided today, Tuesday, dismissing Iraqi Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi and the prime BSA Abdul Basit Turki proxy instead of him, said media adviser to Prime Minister Ali al-Moussawi that the decision is valid until further notice.

The regulatory source revealed to the obelisk for the issuance of an arrest warrant against al-Shabibi, Haitham al-Jubouri said a member of the Knesset Finance Committee that investigated suspicions of corruption in the operations of the Central Bank of Iraq and the auction, the issuance of the note right Shabibi and two of his advisers and employees rank of director general.

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[shredd] well, as quickly as they named an interim

[shredd] they may resolve this quickly

[bondLady] and yes shredd its all about the auctions mainly

[shredd] well, stopping the auctions

[shredd] not that they will

[shredd] will stop income to the cbi

[shredd] so they'd need to move quickly

[bondLady] one thing

[bondLady] the cbi gov

[bondLady] could quickly go in and see the real rate

[bondLady] and take it off program rate

[bondLady] and we see whats up from that

[bondLady] nobody knows now any more than i showed you all

[shredd] BondLady what are your thoughts around the global perspective on Iraq? does this damage confidence or give a black eye to their rep?

[bondLady] a few days should tell us more

[shredd] agreed

[bondLady] it doesn't help

[shredd] yeah

[bondLady] the world already thinks/knows there corrupt

[bondLady] think 10th in the world or something like that

[bondLady] bad bad stats

[bondLady] this maybe a big turning point for us

[bondLady] thank you all

PacoTaco · October 17, 2012

Thanks for posting the chat!

Time will tell...I hope!

Alex38 · October 17, 2012

Now it's FUN!!!

zigmeister · October 17, 2012

Wow! I need to read this again.

kennyc · October 17, 2012

could be REALLY good or REALLY bad. Guess we will know in the next week or so.

Lets get it done.

Go Turki & go RV

SgtFuryUSCZ · October 17, 2012

***///

Wow.

So this thing could hit with a bang, limp with a wimper, disappear in a puff of smoke or

drag us along for another indefinite period of time....

Suffice to say, watching the Iraqi people's reaction to all this will be something to see.

Will they feel slighted by Shabibi...? Be skeptical of Maliki and the charges his camp has levied...?

WIll they demand revaluation of their currency immediately...? Grab pitch forks & torches...?

Wow... :mellow:

LDJ · October 17, 2012

Let r rip boys, let r rip :eyebrows:

Alex38 · October 17, 2012

I have this gut feeling that this new guy is going to release the new rate... quick. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!!!

FishMan1969 · October 17, 2012

Good to hear this perspective from BL.

Consistently good energy from her.

One thing though ---- Turki, you better watch out -----

Thanksgiving is coming !!!!

blugrass60 · October 17, 2012

Hmm.. interesting. Circles within circles within circles..

zigmeister · October 17, 2012

Thank you Bond Lady we wait and see....

keepmwlknfny · October 17, 2012

So now that Shabibi is being removed, all of a sudden BL is saying he wanted to lop??

But BL, you said for so long that removing the zeros is the RV we wanted and Shabs was the master behind this plan......

Why the change of heart now? LOL

RVPleaseToday · October 17, 2012

Everything gets turned into "Go RV" on Dinar forums.

There is nothing good about what is happening in Iraq right now. This is a money grab by Maliki, who is working toward becoming a dictator. If Maliki were to RV the Dinar in this unstable situation, it would effectively make the Dinar worthless where the world was concerned.

Alexyn1006 · October 17, 2012

Thank you Bondlady, very much.

yota691 · October 17, 2012

Turkish mandated central management and reports not return Shabibi

- OCTOBER 16, 2012

Turkish mandated central management and reports not return Shabibi

Baghdad - to write off

cost of the Council of Ministers Chairman of the Board of Supreme Audit Abdul Basit Turki managed by the Central Bank after sources confirmed not return Governor Sinan Shabibi Baghdad while his deputy denied the appearance of Mohammed Saleh those news. Saleh said for the (time) yesterday (not reached in any arrest warrant, either against me or against Shabibi but after participating in the Tokyo conference promised to Baghdad and went Shabibi to one European countries are likely to return to Baghdad after two days), confirming (the formation of an investigative committee of Committees financial and economic in Parliament on certain issues relating to the work of the Central Bank), referring to the (lack of knowledge commissioned a Turkish bank management).

and check the integrity issues associated with the bank, according to a spokesman for the Authority and Chairman of the Integrity Committee in the parliament Bahaa al-Araji. The Associated Press quoted French spokesman Hassan Aati saying yesterday (we received a special file by the Central Bank of the Parliamentary Integrity Committee and the investigation is under way now). But Araji said that (the issue is not about money but about the procedures and instructions led to the increase in the price of the dollar against the dinar and the low rate of the dinar), and added Araji said (the investigation was still going on. Issued arrest warrants but has not issued warrants travel ban), noting that ( Number of warrants amounted thirtieth memorandum include bank governor and his deputy), and confirmed his confidence in the (central bank governor and his deputy would represent in court), and he said (this judge's decision must be respected and we hope the politicians not to interfere).

Meanwhile, did not confirm Aati (issuance arrest warrants in this case), explaining that (Integrity Commission does not issue arrest warrants or arrested, but that jurisdiction to investigate, and if there were arrest warrants are issued by the judiciary alone).

was Shabibi has said from Tokyo two days ago (I do not know anything about it and, God willing, there will be no arrest warrants).

AZQ01 http://www.azzaman.com/?p=15865

Edited October 17, 2012 by yota691

Polishfloridian · October 17, 2012

Thanks Bondlady........ do you still believe one of your last posts "I believe I can prove free float" is still possible or has Shabbs departure changed your view of things?

thanks,

Art

jeepguy · October 17, 2012

this is really getting crazy ,,,, so now that the g.o.i has put a puppet in the place of shabbi , we can expect too see the maliki bunch running in and making the c.b.i an open identiy ,, opposite of what it is now ,,, and i`m thinking that the rate will be --- back too a range of .10 if it can even get out of the starting gates :unsure: thanks bond lady for putting in the time too chase these leads for us ,,,, we will not hear much more this week but i`m in the line of thinking next tuesday will be a barn burner of information about this,,, GOOD LUCK TOO US ALL

yota691 · October 17, 2012

So she saying Shabibi stole all this money to RD!! Makes sense to steal all of this monies to RD and you still have a pile of worthless currency!!! toilet+paper.jpg

tetres · October 17, 2012

So now that Shabibi is being removed, all of a sudden BL is saying he wanted to lop??

But BL, you said for so long that removing the zeros is the RV we wanted and Shabs was the master behind this plan......

Why the change of heart now? LOL

What a joke she is! Lmao!

RodandStaff · October 17, 2012

***///

Wow.

So this thing could hit with a bang, limp with a wimper, disappear in a puff of smoke or

drag us along for another indefinite period of time....

Suffice to say, watching the Iraqi people's reaction to all this will be something to see.

Will they feel slighted by Shabibi...? Be skeptical of Maliki and the charges his camp has levied...?

WIll they demand revaluation of their currency immediately...? Grab pitch forks & torches...?

Wow...

Sounds like another episode of "As the Dinar Turns" to me Sarge!!!

Come on boyz... pull up your big boy pants and "git-r-dun" already!!!

Thanks for the post Trimark! ... and of course thanks BondLady!!!

Come On RV Baby!!!

I have this gut feeling that this new guy is going to release the new rate... quick. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!!!

Who was that cowboy in the drive by??? Could that really be our old friend Alex???

Release the hounds? ...well it's about time.... they have been turning into real couch potato's!!!

flboy · October 17, 2012

Thanksgivining has been coming since 2003, read Forbes, the great Dinar Scam, the only people making money are the dealers and and site operators and I must sya making a Dam good living. Nothing has changed since I bought mine in 2004. Since it's stashed in a S.D. box in the bank I will continue to ride the wave till it dies, if it hits fine, if not was like buying a lottery ticket. I must say the drama amazes me. Any way, I am still in. Just get tired of hearing it's going to hit soon, been waiting on (hit soon) almost 9 years. Have a great day.

caz1104 · October 17, 2012

So now that Shabibi is being removed, all of a sudden BL is saying he wanted to lop??

But BL, you said for so long that removing the zeros is the RV we wanted and Shabs was the master behind this plan......

Why the change of heart now? LOL

LOL she has seen the light. Peace

Captjohn · October 17, 2012

So.....Shabibi turns out to be a turkey. Will Turki be our savior? Stay tuned.

geman · October 17, 2012

So she saying Shabibi stole all this money to RD!! Makes sense to steal all of this monies to RD and you still have a pile of worthless currency!!!

But if he stole it then an rd is easier to hide all he's free profit, and harder to get caught. :eyebrows:

powerpager · October 17, 2012

Good ear to the ground BL !!!

CRYPTO REWARDS!

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