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What is the problem with some of you people? You know who you are. Why do you have to crap on everything other people post? You act like you know everything and spew your mouth off about most anything knowing nothing. Your posts are so pathetically passive aggressive, childish and derogatory. Does it make you feel good about yourself when you put others down? I’m sure I speak for many when I say we are tired of your . Flush it! Oftentimes it appears there is an interesting topic but it turns out to be useless opinionated spewed derogatory stupidity. I am really concerned that if you spewers of crap actually did invest in dinars and it does rv what you are capable of when you have money and what you will do with it. Adam is such a great guy and you people insist on making his site the most pathetic one out there with your stupid derogatory cartoons and pathetic criticism. So I have to ask, If you’re so smart why aren’t your rich? Why are you having anything to do with the dinars? I do have to add I am so glad you are not Platinum members. I know you’re not because the VIP Forums are not full of your crap

This is not my article by any means. However as one of our other members pointed out I too am heavily invested into the Dinar and these Friday / Monday RV predictions recently have taken allot out of me. So I thought I would do some of my own research and fell upon this. Thus far these writers have answered more of my curiosities and questions than anyone else in the years that I have been involved with the Iraqi Dinar. It is a lengthly article but a great educator and worth the read. Now as I said this is not my article and if in some way I have done anything wrong I too Hold my paws out to have them SMACKED. Enjoy. I have been wondering what exactly is there left to do before Iraq’s currency can Revalue? While I was researching this I came upon a post by Junitman. The post by Junitman had a lot of the same conclusions I had. Junitman and I have become friends. I count Junitman as one of the close friends I have in the forums. I asked for permission to share the post. Junitman agreed to let me share it. Here is the post. “The following is a message I received from a member and I thought I would share my thoughts on the answers (strictly IMHO, of course). 1) Are the delays associated with the fact that Iraq is a predominately Muslim nation and the RV will be associated with the blessings of Americans (Infidels) and so they struggle with the hypocrisy of their religious beliefs? 2) Could it be possible that they are trying to RV at a ridiculous low rate in order to minimize the blessings that we would receive and still find the favor with the rest of the world in doing so? (like riding the fence) Then after 90% of the Dinar is cashed in (as I believe it will be right off the bat) bump it up to the levels that would make sense from a global and economic standpoint? You ask great questions, and you may have the answer (it’s as good as any guru! lol). The truth is (imho), no one, no guru, can tell you what the delay is due to. As you can probably tell, Most of them seem to be grasping at straws trying to figure out where to go from here. (just look at the chat logs) One says it is because the lower denominations have to be printed and/or that the Kurds have to have their culture/language represented on them. Another says the IMF has to do the RV. Another says the government has to pass legislation first to do it. Another guru says it’s because of Obama and tax implications for us. Another says the Parliament has to ratify Res. 1957 first. Another say the government isn’t really “official” yet and so the other remaining positions must be filled first. And finally, others say it is because Kuwait is holding out for more money and wants to be paid in pre-RV Iraqi dinar. So who do you believe? Believe me, I TOTALLY understand the frustration associated with this, because all we want to know is what is left in order for them to do it, and who has to do it, in order to gauge when that might be. Here’s what I have been able to conclude, after doing my own research. IMHO…. 1) The lower denominations were printed when the higher denominations were printed. They already have the Kurdish representation and language on the lower denominations. The plan is (as everyone already knows) to phase out the higher denominations and only have the lower denominations. Don’t get confused and think lop. That isn’t what I’m saying. What they will do is once the RV occurs and the lower denominations are in full circulation, they will be removing from circulation over a reasonable period of time, the higher ones (exchange, for ex., one 25K note for (25) 1000 notes, or even more likely, to (250) 100 notes). Bottom line is no one loses value, but the benefit to the Kurds is that ALL thecurrency at the end of the period of exchanging higher denominations, will indeed have the Kurds name and language representation as req. by the Iraqi Constitution. They have always striven for recognition– and IMHO, they were told the plan about the currency, and THAT is why they suddenly were very accommodating and working with Maliki. The reason I say these lower ones were printed with the higher ones is because the authority in place that ordered their printing was the Coalition Provisional Authority (basically, the USA) when the New IQD was ordered, and the Iraqi Interim Constitution requiring Kurdishrepresentation/recognition was initially in that document. The printing of the New IQD and the Interim Constitution was a matter of about two months. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Order_43:_New_Iraqi_Dinar_Banknotes 2) Regarding WHO is the one to pull the trigger? For the longest time everyone for YEARS was in agreement that Shabibi is the only one with authority to pull the trigger for a revalue. But all of a sudden now, when they have nothing else to point to, they say well, the IMF has to do it, or the Iraqi govt. has to do it. On both accounts—WRONG. Per the CBI Law on the CBI website, The Central Bank of Iraq is the SOLE authority responsible for determining the value of their currency. Per the IMF, Shabibi must submit a request for revalue to the IMF. Once they approve it (and I believe this is already done), it is STILL up to Shabibi to plan and prepare for the announcement to the world about it (the effective date). Now I’m not saying the IMF can’t bring pressure on them. They can, and often do so to countries to get them to move. But ultimately, technically, it is Shabibi and him alone that decides when. The secondary part to that is that while Shabibi announces the rate, it must be logically supported and justified as “realistic” by the IMF. It must not be “in equal” or in “disequilibrium” to the comparablecurrency. In this case Shabibi can come out with a rate at $1 to a dinar, but the question is, “is it realistic” to the comparable currency – i.e., the only one comparable around them—Kuwait (Kuwait being like them democratically). I would say no– It is a judgment call, but I don’t think anyone can logically argue that $1 to $3.55 is comparable to each other in a realistic way. This isn’t to say they wouldn’t approve a $1. Because just like judges, they generally can do anything they want if they have a good reason for wanting to do it (and that usually has to do with money). lol http://www.cbi.iq/index.php?pid=LawsRegulations http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2010/cr10316.pdf http://www..com/rumors-prediction/12369-lower-dinar-denominations-to-come-out.html 3) About the Obama and tax argument. The Bush tax cuts passed, so there is no benefit to waiting or pushing it to 2011. In fact, it would have been BETTER for the US government had they done it in December, since there is now a WONDERFUL capital investments rule that gives a business owner the ability to write off 100% of capital they buy each and every year (rather than depreciate it over time). That only went into play in2011 . Had it been in 2010, any big purchases thru a business would not have that perk. It would have been depreciated and not really helping. 4) xxxxxxxxx posted a copy of someone’s post elsewhere that argued that the Parliament still had to ‘ratify’ Res. 1957. I replied on that thread. Basically, the only ‘condition’ that the Iraqi parliament HAD to do in order for the sanctions to be lifted is that they “provisionally approve” the resolution, pending ratification (later). As of the date of the UN assembly to lift the sanctions on Dec.15, the actual language said it was “currently before their Parliament”. In other words, they were passing the conditional “provisional approval” right then– and I have NO DOUBT that it has already passed at this point. The only thing remaining for them to do (but they are not obligated in the sense that it holds anything up), is to ratify it. What I see happening is that the ratification will happen BEFORE June2011 when they finally have the DFI funds released. Therefore, this is a non-issue right now as it pertains to an RV. They passed all that was necessary for an RV, i.e., the ‘provisional approval’ of Res. 1957. http://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/%7B65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9%7D/Iraq%20S%20RES%201957%20WMD.pdf http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/12/15/fact-sheet-un-security-council-high-level-meeting-iraq 5) Regarding the argument that the government isn’t yet “official” and therefore that is the reason– Not true. Reason why? Well, gee. Maliki was on a time constraint, remember? If the “government wasn’t officially seated” before Dec. 25th, the baton was to pass to another. Do you really think that Alawi would allow that chance to pass up if this government wasn’t “official?” No.. The government WAS officially declared, seated, etc., BEFORE the deadline. However, to a degree I agree with some of the points in the argument, just in a different way. They want to hinge it on this ‘technicality’. I hinge it solely on the only one with power to pull the trigger: Shabibi. He said early in 2010 that “once a government is seated” that thecurrency valuation, etc., would be dealt with (this is ultimately why everyone is now saying “they aren’t official”). The fact is, though they are technically an officially formed government, it is still Shabibi’s call— and he and Saleh have stated in several news articles that SECURITY is a major concern (in addition to stability). And that makes sense, doesn’t it? After all, we’re talking about a MAJOR event where LOTS of money is going to be changing hands, and probably be a bit chaotic…border issues as well. Think about how YOU are also concerned about SECURITY when this RV hits, and multiply that by about a million or more. LOL Shabibi wants those Security positions FILLED first, REGARDLESS of whether it is a ‘technically’ formed government. And I certainly cannot blame him! 6) As for the Kuwait rumor that they are holding out for more money and wanting pre-RV dinar. Who can possibly say for sure? I can’t say one way or another, though I would have THOUGHT that had there still been issues with Kuwait, we surely would have had something written or said about it in the news. I saw nothing like that. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5AF4BK20091116 http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsDetails/tabid/96/smid/414/ArticleID/163191/t/‘Prospects-bright-for-solution-to-Kuwait,-Iraq-outstanding-issues’/Default.aspx http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://nahrain.com/d/news/11/01/110106b.htm&rurl=translate.google.co.uk Regarding your second question: Shabibi can do what he wants, within reason. Iraq still must comply with the IMF requirements that the rate be “realistic”. With regard to an RV followed by another RV. They are on a managed (dirty) float. According to the IMF requirements on their exchange rate regime, they cannot allow it to float more than 2% over a 3 month period. The reality is that they probably could do what you suggest, and at the end of the 3 months, raise it up more. But here’s the problem with it. If they come in too low, they can actually make it worse by putting their foreign reserves at risk since they would have to sell them off to prop up and justify an “unrealistic” rate. And don’t forget what I said— There is the argument that it would not be ‘realistic’. IMHO, they will not risk putting their reserves in jeopardy by coming in at too low a rate. They only have to look at when the Kuwaiti dinar was RV’d. It initially came in at $2+ and the speculators went wild, driving the price up to $7+ ..then stabilized at around the price it is right now. For what little they gained in the short term by coming in too low, they immediately lost when they had to use their foreign reserves to blunt the swing upward. Shabibi is smart and I’m sure TPTB will not take that chance with Iraq. It is in a fragile situation both politically and economically. I don’t see them taking that chance. I don’t claim that my opinion is any better than anyone else’s. lol God bless.” End of Junitmans post As you can see, this is a well thought out and well written post. I doubt I could have done better. That’s why I am sharing what Junitman wrote. I have thought since the 3rd of January 2011 that just about everything that should be done is now done! So the question still remains. What’s the hold up? While Shabibi controls the rate the GOI controls the issuing of currency. This is according to the Iraqi constitution. Here are replies by Junitman in other threads. “Per the CBI Law on the CBI website, The Central Bank of Iraq is the SOLE authority responsible for determining the value of their currency.” While it is true the CBI controls the rate they do not control the release of the new currency into circulation. Below you will find the pieces of the Iraqi constitution that tell you that. Article 130: Existing laws shall remain in force, unless annulled or amended in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution. (the CBI laws were put in place on March 6, 2004 which is prior to the Iraqi constitution taking effect) Article 110: The federal government shall have exclusive authorities in the following matters: First: Formulating foreign policy and diplomatic representation; negotiating, signing, and ratifying international treaties and agreements; negotiating, signing, and ratifying debt policies and formulating foreign sovereign economic and trade policy. Second: Formulating and executing national security policy, including establishing and managing armed forces to secure the protection and guarantee the security of Iraq’s borders and to defend Iraq. Third: Formulating fiscal and customs policy; issuing currency; regulating commercial policy across regional and governorate boundaries in Iraq; drawing up the national budget of the State; formulating monetary policy; and establishing and administering a central bank. Article 13: First: This constitution is the preeminent and supreme law in Iraq and shall be binding in all parts of Iraq without exception. Second: No law that contradicts this Constitution shall be enacted. Any text in any regional constitutions or any other legal text that contradicts this constitution shall be considered void. As you can see even if the CBI laws said they could issue a currency (which it doesn’t it says they control the rate), it doesn’t matter because once this constitution was ratified in 05 it became the supreme law of the land. Also there have been a ton of articles this year from the MOF talking about the release of a new currency, the printing of a new currency, and the need to pay for the printing of the new currency this year. Take that for what it is worth. Yes there was lower denominations printed in 03 but they have told us this year they have changed them for whatever reason. Hope this helps to clarify a couple of things as to the reason the CBI does in fact need the GOI! The Government does NOT run the CBI, nor tell the CBI what to do. “The Central Bank of Iraq Law was promulgated on March 6, 2004.4 Principal 1 of the Core Principals for Effective Banking Supervision, developed by the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision5, provides that an effective banking authority shall be autonomous, possess operational independence, transparent processes, sound governance and adequate resources, and be accountable for the discharge of its duties. The CBI Law fully complies with this principle, providing that the CBI is autonomous and shall not take instructions from any other person or entity, including government entities. “The autonomy of the CBI shall be respected and no person or entity shall seek improperly to influence any member of a decision-making body of the CBI in the discharge of his duties towards the CBI or to interfere in the activities of the CBI.” See Art. 2, Par. 2 of the CBI Law. Article 25 and 26 describe the nature of the relationship the CBI has with the government (essentially, the CBI is the ‘banker’ for the government– but may not lend to the government directly). With regard to the article 110, keep in mind that we have a similar set up. According to Art. 1 Sec. 8 of the U.S. Constitution, the Congress has ‘exclusive right to coin money and regulate the value thereof’… However, as some of you know, that right and duty has been turned over to the Federal Reserve by legislation (Fed. Reserve Act). Iraq legislated (delegated) that duty to the CBI via the legislation mentioned above. Both the Federal Reserve and the CBI are owned by PRIVATE bankers. Truly, the borrower is a slave to the lender, and these are the rich money changer/banker elites who own these central banks in most of the countries on the earth. And for EASYRIDER, yes I agree in that sense (as you can tell). They already have the lower denominations. Some have suggested that Article 110 of the Iraqi Constitution means they have to wait and that the government must then enact legislation for new currency notes that will recognize the Kurdistan language and culture. Let’s look at that. The new IQD was issued between Oct.15, 2003 and Jan. 15, 2004 as per the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) The Iraqi Interim Constitution adopted in Mar. 2004 (which provided for recognition of Kurdish Language, i.e., on banknotes as stated in Art. 9; also the Interim Constitution is when the CBI was re-established). Transitional Authority: June 30, 2004 to Dec. 31, 2005 of CPA and Interim Iraqi Government. THUS: The New Iraq Dinar (and IMHO, the lower denominations WITH the Kurdish representation) were issued NOT via the Iraqi Constitution or even the Interim Iraqi Government—- They were issued via the Coalition Provisional Authority, Order #43. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Order_43:_New_Iraqi_Dinar_Banknotes It is very likely that with the relative closeness between the time the Interim Constitution was adopted mandating Kurdish representation in the Constitution(banknotes) in Mar. 2004, and when the IQD was issued ending in Jan. 2004; and with the Coalition Prov. Authority being the legal arm that ordered the printing, it seems very likely that the lower denominations have Kurdish representation/language on them and were already printed when the other higher denominations were printed. It would also make sense that until they worked out an inclusive government WITH the Kurds and most likely, a memorandum of understanding concerning their representation on the banknotes, that you would NOT see those lower denominations until then. IMHO… There is no need to wait on printing anything– i.e., lower denominations. IMHO, it’s already done, and was done by order of the Coalition Provisional Authority when the original New Iraqi Dinar banknotes were printed, and only waiting on Shabibi to pull the trigger. With regard to that, I believe the only thing we are waiting on is the SECURITY aspect. The ministerial position in SECURITY has been saved for last because it is a most coveted positions among the factions. It appears that they’ve decided today that the position will be filled by the Kurdish faction (not sure about this yet). Shabibi is the only one who can pull the trigger for the RV. BUT..He has made comments that SECURITY is important…and that makes sense, right? We are talking about a situation where a major change is about to take place with money moving and being exchanged in a massive undertaking. Obviously SECURITY is important then to Shabibi and imho, we will see it after those security ‘assurances’ are in place. Let’s see who is named as minister of Security and see what happens then. Thank you Junitman for such a detail analysis. Now a few things are evident. 1. Shabibi controls the rate. 2.The Government of Iraq controls the issuing of currency 3. Both need to work together to bring about the Revalue (which is mutually in both of their best interest) 3. Possibly there are still some security issues that need to be addressed before the country will RV. One thing is for sure, No one knows the timing of this event, but it seems to be certain that Iraq needs to get this done soon!! This is also Shabibi’s intentions http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.baghdadiabian.com/news.php%3Faction%3Dview%26id%3D2759&rurl=translat e.google.com http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alitthad.com/paper.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Darticle%26sid%3D2 3590 http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alitthad.com/paper.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Darticle%26sid%3D2 3590 Just as a side note: All the links placed in Junitmans post were supplied by me and were not part of the original post. They are supplied in an effort to verify what Junitman was saying. Junitman also changed the user name to Juni.

BondLady] i have some really good news for us today [bondLady] hope u called ur friends to see it [bondLady] and its confirmation to me of what i said 3 days ago [bondLady] when robert dinaroh brought me a article and ask me to interpret it [bondLady] i was worried i might have got some things in it wrong i second guessed myself on it [bondLady] instead of being confident in what i do i was worried because i never wanna mislead any one or say something thats not true [bondLady] or to hurt any one or do what rumors do and bash hopes and dreams [bondLady] and i did pray about it before i made my post u know the one where i showed u all the poster of uncle sam sayin to use dinars to purchase things in the markets with. [bondLady] well today i got confirmation what all i said about roberts article ….i was right on the money [bondLady] i talked about the lower denominations [bondLady] and a new rate [bondLady] and instructions being given out to the poor and middleclass people of iraq [bondLady] basically all of iraq but this was what was being said in the article [bondLady] instructions telling them about there new purchaseing power [bondLady] id like to remind u of my post 3 days ago and my coments to it and peak is going to bring it in [bondLady] plz do it now peakk]peakdinar] Governor of Baghdad calls for agents to receive payments for compensatory and ration distribution to citizens The governor of Baghdad, Dr. Salah Abdul-Razzaq Agents ration card to receive compensatory payments for the lack of the ration card items from the General Company for Foodstuff Trading and distributed to citizezs. Dr. Salah Abdul-Razzaq said in a statement issued by the Information Office said on Wednesday that “the amount of money has been transferred to the State Company for Foodstuff Trading, which launched the amounts of compensation for the lack of ration card and delivered to the agents and distributed to citizens.” The governor pointed out that “the amounts allocated to the province of Baghdad, which identified a number Nfosha of the Ministry of Finance estimated 108 billion and 223 million dinars will be distributed among the 7.214 million people, according to ministry statistics will be required to the ministry to increase the amount if rates were to prepare the citizens of Baghdad more than a calculated,” referring to “Meet Earlier the Minister of Commerce and chaired a meeting with representatives of the Ministry of Commerce to discuss the mechanism of the distribution of awards to the shortage in the ration card items and conservative and put instructions and controls to facilitate the exchange rate mechanism amounts to the citizens in the coming days through the use of centers ration agents and the ration card for the delivery of funds to the citizens after allocated to them by banks. He noted Dr. Abdul-Razzaq said that “instructions and controls to maintain will be circulated between the agents and citizens, and banks for the purpose of the work which, while the distribution of money to beneficiaries as well as the identification of each agent the number of families that will be distributed with the amounts in each batch by 200 family maximum and secure the remaining funds for the families that do not decline to receive the amounts. ” Noting that “the province and the provincial council to oversee the distribution of money among citizens as well as direct supervision of the receipt of proxies for the amount of money from government banks after sending representatives from local councils with him at the receipt and according to the guidelines established for the agents of the province.” BondLady] now pay attention to what this says [bondLady] according to ministry statistics will be required to the ministry to increase the amount if rates were to prepare the citizens of Baghdad more than a calculated,” [bondLady] prepare the citizens for a rate of increase [bondLady] man i hope im right about this if im not [bondLady] no 1 can throw tomatoes at me [bondLady] Meet Earlier the Minister of Commerce and chaired a meeting with representatives of the Ministry of Commerce to discuss the mechanism of the distribution of awards to the shortage in the ration card items and conservative and put instructions and controls to facilitate the exchange rate mechanism amounts to the citizens in the coming days through the use of centers ration agents and the ration card for the delivery of funds to the citizens after allocated to them by banks “. [bondLady] the awards is the 15,000 dinars promised [bondLady] for delayin the ration cards [bondLady] and with it [bondLady] instructions [bondLady] and controls [bondLady] to facilitate the exchange rate [bondLady] mechanisim amounts [bondLady] to the citizens in the coming days [bondLady] now hes talkin about 2 different sets of people here [bondLady] the bennificarys is the 1s on welfare [bondLady] the citizens even tho they all are is the ones not on welfare [bondLady] the awards is the 15,000 dinars promised [bondLady] for delayin the ration cards [bondLady] and with it [bondLady] instructions [bondLady] and controls [bondLady] to facilitate the exchange rate [bondLady] mechanisim amounts [bondLady] to the citizens in the coming days [bondLady] now hes talkin about 2 different sets of people here [bondLady] the bennificarys is the 1s on welfare [bondLady] the citizens even tho they all are is the ones not on welfare [bondLady] and with it instructions [bondLady] so hes tellin all the leaders of all the provinvces to give all the people instructions about the exchange rate [bondLady] why would they need instructions about the exchange rate [bondLady] 1170? [bondLady] they wouldnt there well aware of that crappy rate [bondLady] but if it was a new rate [bondLady] they would need to know about there new purchaseing power [bondLady] with a new rate [bondLady] instructions and controls to maintain will be circulated between the agents and citizens, and banks for the purpose of the work which, while the distribution of money [bondLady] to facilitate an exchange rate [bondLady] to beneficiaries as well as the identification of each agent the number of families that will be distributed with the amounts in each batch by 200 family maximum and secure the remaining funds for the families that do not decline to receive the amounts. ” [bondLady] benifisarys is the people on welfare [bondLady] the others are the ones who have declined welfare [bondLady] and secure the remaining funds for the families that do not decline to receive the amounts. [bondLady] see what im sayin [bondLady] Noting that “the province and the provincial council to oversee the distribution of money among citizens as well as direct supervision of the receipt of proxies for the amount of money from government banks after sending representatives from local councils with him at the receipt and according to the guidelines established for the agents of the province.” [bondLady] there sayin were gonna be watchin u and no more coruption [bondLady] we want recipts for every thing [bondLady] we wanna know exactly where all this money goes an to who [bondLady] to beneficiaries as well as the identification of each [bondLady] see they wanna make sure that every 1 promised gets paid [bondLady] every 1 has a number like our ss number [bondLady] ok that was roberts article [bondLady] hope i did u proud robert [bondLady] and i hope im right [bondLady] i said these instructions was for a new rate cause they sure didnt need instructions about there old rate i said they knew very well how crappy there 1170 rate was]peakdinar] Central Bank: Our next issue of currency cash allowance damaged On: Friday 18/03/2011 10:24 Baghdad (news) .. An advisor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh, said that our future work on the issuance of currency. Saleh said in a statement (of the Agency news) today: “that our future is to work on the issue of currency within the system of cash currency reform to help, but this program takes time. Saleh added: “The policies of the Central Bank of damage and the burning of damaged currency after investigating the cause of damage and there are conditions and instructions prior to splurge, noting that there are some people who offended in use.” He said the central bank adviser: “Iraq currently trading currency in Mtzmrp because he is one of the developing countries and underdeveloped in the use of money, so the Central Bank of the receipt of all categories and the be destroyed within the standards and laws in line with the rules of the Bank” [bondLady] it sayin they ran out of so much of there 000 notes [bondLady] that it was damageing there progress [bondLady] and hurting there buying power [bondLady] without being able to use the 000 notes shabs has been collecting and destroying all these yrs [bondLady] they couldnt pay for or buy the things they need to go forward [bondLady] its always been my stance once we see the lower denominations [bondLady] we would see our rv at the same time [bondLady] no other way for it [bondLady] they would be in the same boat they are now except they would need air craft carriers to carry enough of the lower denoms to by grocerys for a month [bondLady] if they didnt rv at the same time or before [bondLady] now many of u know [bondLady] i dont do rumors [bondLady] or guru stuff nor do i rarely ever listen to any ones cc’s [bondLady] the only 1 ive stated i listen to is delta [bondLady] because i do the news articles [bondLady] he watches iraqi tv [bondLady] delta confirms every thing i say day or two later every time he talks about what is on iraqi tv [bondLady] so i listen to delta it shows me im doin it right because our stuff is totally different but he confirms me an my interpretaions all the time [bondLady] just a few ago frank came out and made a statement of what was being seen on iraqi tv [bondLady] id like to share that with u [bondLady] id like to share that with u [bondLady] and even tho he doesnt say this is from delta we all know it is [bondLady] cause frank may know camels but he dont know arabic [bondLady] so this is where all my stuff gets confirmed [bondLady] an i have to say i am so happy’ [bondLady] Early today Iraqi TV announced to the Iraqi citizens that they are about to introduce a new currency to them. They said there is no time limit on this but they are preparing them…….in the same manner than they prepared them in Nov/Dec/Jan. That they would remove currency that had 000’s on them. When the IQD dried up in Iraq …… [bondLady] do u see this????????????? [bondLady] what i said 3 days ago [bondLady] is showin up today in iraqi news???? [bondLady] ill show u the rest of what frank said but i wanted u all to see this and bear witness to it [bondLady] heres the rest of franks [bondLady] the citizens sensed a strong possibility that what S was telling them on Iraqi TV……..actually had potential. They did not riot to the point of destroying their country but held their ground and made their voices loud to their politicians. Our Team was assigned on Jan. 1st ……..TO ONLY FOLLOW THE LD’S AND SHABIBI WITH THE CBI. We cared less about the GOI. Because they cared less about us. This new currency will be the LD’s. [bondLady] But it cannot be given unless the rate changes first. Because they will serve no function at 1170. Iraqi TV said one more thing this morning of value. Parliament is not going on vacation for 10 days until the 27th. Instead……each parliament member is working inside of their own districts behind closed doors! As for the debt to KU ………we told you it’s paid. If you wish to believe articles against this ………then I respect you. But my Team knows what we know. May I suggest that any visits to KU would not be for a payment that has already been made. But instead ………the discussion of that payment. [bondLady] Ali told you there would be no RI/RV this week nor in two weeks. I suggested that someone should have asked him ……what’s going to happen in three weeks? We all know that the UST changed laws which affected Ali’s policies. For example …….Ali has to return all safe keeping funds to their holders or put it in a FEDERAL HOLDING FACILITY. He was instructed to do this on the 11th and ONLY given 15 days to do so. Normally …….government actions are done within 30 days. IMO……the UST is hurrying Ali to do something by a specific time period. [bondLady] If you add 15 days to the 11th we get the 26th. IMO……on the 27th we will hear a loud voice representing the people of Iraq via the return of ………PARLIAMENT. M has his cabinet picked. On the 1st of April the IMF’s fiscal year ……..STARTS. An LOI was sent to the IMF April of 2010. It still sits awaiting an answer. One last thing……..the dinars Ali will return will all be new IQD’s with new serial numbers. IMO…….the UST wants to know ……..EVERYTHING. When I said April 7th at 2:20am on a Thursday I was only kidding. Of course. [bondLady] Libya did not meet with Hillarious but she goes from ME country to ME country. We have a good feeling of why she is doing this and tell you to pay attention to her Monday meeting with the MoF at the UN. We strongly believe that behind the scenes she and Geitner are working with S and the CBI…….and the UST. The IMF’s SBA was not totally given to Iraq because they were instructed by the IMF to fix their monetary policy first. Today’s announcement on Iraqi TV about the LD’s is one giant step for Iraq one giant leap ……..for mankind. [bondLady] I will do a CC on Monday and give you the rest of our Team’s studies and I am announcing as of right now that we will not have a CC on Thursday……..it would be a waste of time. I will be silent until Monday…….till then please stay in constant prayer. As far as the rumors that they are cashing in the Sheiks and 100% RI/RV tomorrow ……..nope. My Christian love and Aloha. KTF, Frank [bondLady] thats it folks but i just wanted u all to see it here and know weve been on target with every thing me and my staff have said [bondLady] im totally thrilled to have confirmations of 3 days agos post [bondLady] hope u all are too [bondLady] ty for letting me share with u and letting me be a part of your lives [bondLady] ty all[/size]

Negativity breeds negativity my friend. Don't waste your time on such things. If you want to do something that will make you feel good, go read to an elderly person who can't do it themselves anymore. Go play catch with the kid down the street who doesn't seem to have many friends. Go compliment your wife or mother on how pretty they look today. There is so much negativity in the world today, why would you want to generate anymore yourself than you need to? Stay positive and positive things will happen. It's called Karma. Good luck to you!! Peace

Good Afternoon, WOW, tell us how you really feel. Don't let anyone or anything steal your joy! Have a Blessed day

that's the problem...it all sounds good in chat, but in reality no one knows what is going on.

The world's largest army... America 's hunters! I had never thought about this.... A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion: * There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin . * Allow me to restate that number. * Over the last several months, Wisconsin 's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world. * More men under arms than in Iran . * More than in France and Germany combined. * These men deployed to the woods of a single American state to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed. * That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan 's 700,000 hunters, all of whom have now returned home. * Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. * The point? * America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower. * Hunting -- it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security. * That's why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us disarmed. Food for thought when next we consider gun control.

What site is it? Not that you could post that here....God forbid. Why do these people in his chats continually support him time after time? I really wanna go over there and bash the out of him! I know, it's juvenile and self serving, but man it would really feel good....wouldn't it?

Please feel free to forward this or share it with anyone you know of who is invested in the Dinar. If you repost this, Just make sure that if you post it in sections, post it in it’s entirety so that we don’t have yet another 1/2 baked, 1/2 informed, 1/2 way done document floating around and it taken out of context without all of the necessary references to make it a complete package. I wrote this document mainly for myself, friends, and family members who I have told about Dinar, but once I had all the work done, I thought it could be very beneficial to others. The manner in which I wrote this document is almost in “conversation form”. I did this because I wrote it as I researched, and thought it might also make it a little easier to absorb especially when dealing with such a complex issue. So here it is: Hello everyone, here is some info I have researched the past few days, remember to take this as my opinion and not as fact. Remember to verify not only what I say, but what others say as well. I believe I have compiled more than enough info for you to research on your own if you feel it's necessary. In addition to that, the IRS may release clarification on this single issue at a later date post-RV (this also is rumor), so be prepared to possibly change your strategy at that time. I think it is wise to not cash in more than a small amount until you have met with a tax attorney and get a certified letter of opinion from them and get clarification directly from the IRS as well. This is not something that can be re-done at a later date. You only have one shot to convert your dinar and do it the right way so take your time, make your plans, meet with the pros (several of them) and once you have put in several hours of research, then and only then should you be making an appointment to cash in your dinar! Secondly, before I really get started, there was an issue covered the other day on MTT where people were freaking out about their bankers or private bankers asking them personal questions. IMO this state of fear and negative attitude is unfounded. You, being a potential client or customer are not the one who runs the show, they are. You do have the right to interview them and choose who is the best fit for you, and you don't (initially) need to provide certain information to them. Post-RV you most certainly will have to disclose certain things to your banks, especially once you start moving into investments. The reason you may have to disclose information is due to the KYC (Know Your Customer) rule. Your bank not only has the right, but the obligation to dig into your background and personal information. I personally hate this rule, and feel it is an invasion of privacy, but your congressmen are the ones who voted the current legislation into being. To find out what this rule is, check this link for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer So now I will move on to the main topic of this letter; taxes owed on Dinar profits. As we currently understand according to all that we have been told about our dinar situation you will be taxed one of 2 ways: Ordinary Income Capital Gains It should be blatantly obvious right from the start that dinar is not something you get a weekly or monthly paycheck from, so it’s already looking like there is nothing “ordinary” about this, and it will take very little evidence to prove this point. I will give you a little preview into the rest of this document, and let you know that short-term capital gains are taxed at the “ordinary income” taxable rate. This is pretty much as far as it goes in regards to anything about this investment being equated as “ordinary income”, so let’s move on. First off, we can go to the IRS for their definition of what capital gains are : http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=106799,00.html An explanation: generally speaking, refers to the profits realized on sales of non-inventory assets. For individuals, capital gains are generally taxed at a preferential rate in comparison to ordinary income. The amount of tax depends on both the investor’s tax bracket and how long the investment was held before being sold. Short-term capital gains on investments held for a year or less are taxed at the investor’s ordinary income tax rate. Long-term capital gains, which apply to assets held for more than one year, are taxed at a lower rate than short-term gains. Since 2008, the tax rate on long-term capital gains has been 0% for individuals in the 10% and 15% income tax brackets, and 15% for everyone else. However, those rates were scheduled to expire at the end of 2010, as explained above, with the result that in 2011 the long-term capital gains tax rate would have risen to 20% (10% for taxpayers in the 15% tax bracket) if Congress had not acted. The new legislation forestalls these increases by extending the 0% and 15% long-term capital gains tax rates for two years (through 2012). So we still have to figure out if our Dinar returns are Capital Gains or if they are considered ordinary income. I’ll start by going through the various citations (rumors squabbled about in all the chatrooms and conference calls) in the code that have been thrown around as having to deal with the dinar. I will go over several sections in IRS Title 26 and other topics including: 988 525 550 1256 Contracts Topic 409 Summary on the Capital Gains Issue Corporations and Trusts IRS Help 988 1) We first start at looking at IRS Title 26 Section 988: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/usc_sec_26_00000988----000-.html This section pertains to Subchapter N Part 3 which states very clearly "income without the united states", which means foreign earned income OUTSIDE of the united states. Since you are here in the united states, and your income/investment is here, I have a very difficult time believing that this section pertains to us AT ALL even though subpart J refers to foreign currency transactions. Remember, if you are digging down 2,3,4,5 layers in ANY code, you need to make sure that the source/reference/main topic of that code actually pertains to you. Just because there may be 500 places in the IRS code that the words “foreign currency” appear, does not mean that they apply to us as dinar investors. And then I found this info from a CPA (link at the bottom): The general rule with regard to the U.S. tax treatment of gains or losses from exchanging U.S. currency for non U.S. currency (and back) is that the gain or loss on the currency exchange will now be taxed the same as the underlying transaction. The Taxpayer's Relief Act of 1997 included a provision [Act Section 1104(a)] that included some changes, which are included in the following explanation. Where there are currency gains or losses in connection with a trade or business or with the management or administration of investment assets, the gain is treated as an ordinary gain (rather than as a capital gain) and any loss is generally treated as an expense. Where currency gains or losses are incurred in connection with the purchase of an investment, the gain or loss on the currency change on realization (usually from selling) is a capital gain or loss and is included as part of the total capital gain or loss on the investment. Currency gains of $200 or less that arise from personal transactions (not for investment or business) are not taxable, but any personal currency losses are not deductible. A personal transaction includes any gain or loss arising from travel even if the travel is business related. Any currency gains in excess of $200 per transaction (per trip or per purchase) are treated as a capital gain. Losses on currency exchanges for business travel also appear to be non-deductible. The primary source of information on the tax treatment of currency gains or losses is IRC Section 988. Here is the link for that excerpt: http://www.rpifs.com/offshoretax/otcurrency.htm So... even though I don’t believe this specifically pertains to us, even in this section of the code, it still speaks of the increase in value of a currency as “capital gain”. Then I find information on 988 pertaining to “non functional currency”. What the heck is that you ask? I have no idea! BUT, I will point out that in this link, the second blue highlighted line states it pertains to “export trade corporations”, and once again, I do not believe this pertains to us. Here is the link I am referring to: http://law.justia.co....1.0.6.164.html Then I found a somewhat decent definition explained here: http://www.ato.gov.a...6528.htm&page=7 And here is a definition for “functional currency”: http://en.wikipedia....tional_currency What I am presuming this to mean, is that any money made internationally, regardless of its currency etc, any profits made with overseas business must be converted to a “US dollar amount” in order for you to properly report/pay your taxes. So this just further instills my opinion that this section DOES NOT pertain to us at all. 525 Here is the link for IRS Pub 525: http://www.irs.gov/p...p525/index.html 525 is the section referring to taxable and non-taxable income. I found 3 snippets of information on capital gains in: “Itemized Deduction Recoveries” section. This may or mat not apply to you. Unless you have realized gains or had losses in the year(s) prior to the RV, this section does not apply to you at all. “Non-Itemized Deduction Recoveries” -same basic situation as #1 Under “Miscellaneous Income” and then “other income” you find the only info on Capital Gains. I found this in 525 and I had to put this in here, it’s just too funny... “Illegal activities. Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on Form 1040, line 21, or on Schedule C or Schedule C-EZ (Form 1040) if from your self-employment activity.” I had no idea you could knowingly operate in criminal activity, and the IRS thinks that you would somehow be honest enough to claim your illegal drug sales as income! LOL You may want to keep this section in mind if you sell your Dinar to a Corp. or trust: Sale of personal items. If you sold an item you owned for personal use, such as a car, refrigerator, furniture, stereo, jewelry, or silverware, your gain is taxable as a capital gain. Report it on Schedule D (Form 1040). You cannot deduct a loss. However, if you sold an item you held for investment, such as gold or silver bullion, coins, or gems, any gain is taxable as a capital gain and any loss is deductible as a capital loss. Now go here to page 33 at the bottom: http://www.irs.gov/p...rs-pdf/p525.pdf This paragraph from page 33 states: Foreign currency transactions. If you have a gain on a personal foreign currency transaction because of changes in exchange rates, you do not have to include that gain in your income unless it is more than $200. If the gain is more than $200, report it as a capital gain. Now, out of all the mumbo-jumbo we have read so far, does that not seem like plain English enough for us??? 550 Here is the link for IRS Pub 550: http://www.irs.gov/p...p550/index.html 550 is the section referring to Investment Income and expenses, including capital gains and losses. Under “Capital Gain Distributions you find this definition: Capital gain distributions (also called capital gain dividends) are paid to you or credited to your account by mutual funds (or other regulated investment companies) and real estate investment trusts (REITs). They will be shown in box 2a of the Form 1099-DIV you receive from the mutual fund or REIT. And below that, we find this: Nondividend Distributions A nondividend distribution is a distribution that is not paid out of the earnings and profits of a corporation or a mutual fund. You should receive a Form 1099-DIV or other statement showing you the nondividend distribution. On Form 1099-DIV, a nondividend distribution will be shown in box 3. If you do not receive such a statement, you report the distribution as an ordinary dividend. I am not entirely sure if this even pertains to us, most of this sections seems to deal with Mutual funds and REIT’s. A dividend is defined here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dividend The Dinar is not a dividend, so it seems like yet another quoted section of the IRS code -Pub 550 does not pertain to us, so let’s look further... 1256 Contracts Here is a link for the breakdown of this section: http://www.law.corne...56----000-.html All that you have to read is part “a” through “b” and you find out quite easily that this does not pertain to you either. This pertains to professional currency dealers or traders, which you are most likely not. If you are not currently a FOREX trader and you bought dinar as an investment, this is yet another section of IRS code that does not apply. IRS Topic 409 After speaking to the IRS today (which I will address later) they referred me to this section for more clarification on capital gains. You can find that info here: http://www.irs.gov/t...pics/tc409.html So now here we are, having gone through the “intel” of what we are supposedly bound to in regards to taxation, and I have only found a SINGLE section that would apply to our situation -IRS Pub 525 Page 33. This is why I am such a stickler for the truth, because we keep getting advice from random intel sources and random posts in chatrooms that all claim to have the answers, and when you spend the time and dig deep enough you find out that their position/opinion/arguments are based on nothing but speculation and unverified rumor. These are the wrong sections, the wrong citations, and most of them without any merit or applicability whatsoever to our situation. So where do we go from here... We go to the source of all of this, the IRS itself. The size of the tax code is roughly 71,000 pages, too many pages for me to read. Based on the following links, not too many of our own Govt. officials seem to even know just how big it is. I suppose they never checked Google!? Link: http://www.trygve.com/taxcode.html Link: http://politicalcalc...ederal-tax.html SUMMARY After reviewing all the potential tax issues, categories, sections, explanations etc. I placed a call into the IRS “Complex Individual Issues” department on 3-18-11. I spent 35 minutes on hold and got in touch with Paul ID#1000842891. Paul told me that as long as I personally purchased the Dinar as an investment and it was not purchased by me as a foreign currency trader (remember 1256?), any profits would be considered as CAPITAL GAINS, and NOT ordinary income. This means that IRS Pub. 525 is the proper and correct section to apply to our investment verified/explained by IRS Topic 409, and will need to be reported on Schedule D at the end of the year. I asked him if there was a limit on capital gains being taxed at the lower/lowest rates regardless of whether I made $5000.00, $5 Million, or $50 Million. He then told me that I needed to be transferred to another department to get clarification on that. I also verified with him that the Dinar was NOT a dividend, and cannot be classified as dividend income, it is CAPITAL GAINS income. I was then transferred to Miss Johnson ID#1000246729. I asked her the same question, and she replied that there was no limitation on capital gains, even if it was considered and applied to the 2 lower income brackets. She also stated that she has personally processed claims that have exceeded the lowest 2 income brackets and they have STILL APPLIED the ZERO TAX qualification to those filings (up to the maximum income allowed for this income bracket). Keep this in mind, but also remember to get a certified letter of opinion from a tax attorney or confirmation letter from the IRS itself if you think this strategy/situation will work for you. It would be awesome if this was 100% true, but I think she may have been off a little bit. So what does all of this mean for you? Well, if you meet the qualifications for the lowest (10%) tax bracket; SHORT TERM capital gains are taxed at ordinary income tax rate LONG TERM capital gains are taxed at 0%, up to the maximum income allowed for this income bracket (see chart below) For the second lowest income bracket (15%), you will be taxed at; SHORT TERM capital gains are taxed at ordinary income tax rate LONG TERM capital gains are taxed at 0%, up to the maximum income allowed for this income bracket (see chart below) For the other higher income brackets (25% thru 35%+), you will be taxed at; SHORT TERM capital gains are taxed at ordinary income tax rate LONG TERM capital gains are taxed at a MAXIMUM15% To find out what tax bracket you are in, review the chart below: Tax Bracket Married Filing Jointly Single 10% Bracket $0 – $17,000 $0 – $8,500 15% Bracket $17,001 – $69,000 $8,501 – $34,500 25% Bracket $69,001 – $139,350 $34,501 – $83,600 28% Bracket $139,351 – $212,300 $83,601 – $174,400 33% Bracket $212,301 – $379,150 $174,401 – $379,150 35% Bracket Over $379,150 Over $379,150 This chart was taken from here: www.fivecentnickel.com/2010/02/15/2011-federal-income-tax-brackets-... You can go here for more explanation: http://www.mhtb.com/wordpress/?p=233 More explanation: http://thefinancebuf...1-and-2012.html If you would like to play around with numbers to see what you may have to pay in taxes, you can use a capital gains calculator. I cannot guarantee this to be 100% accurate, but it is fun to play around with nonetheless. Here is the link: www.smartmoney.com/personal-finance/taxes/the-smartmoneycom-capital... I think I have done enough research to prove the point that this investment is considered to be capital gains, and that if you are in the lower 2 income brackets, you can effectively pay no taxes whatsoever if you meet certain criteria. Here is a link for 10 facts on capital gains: http://www.irs.gov/n...=106799,00.html More info here: www.smartmoney.com/personal-finance/taxes/making-the-most-of-capita... Corporations and Trusts Far too many people are not only giving bad advice on taxes, but also on corporations and trusts. For those of you who qualify for the lower 2 income brackets you could pay nothing in tax, but if you put it into a trust or corp, you could end up paying 15-42% taxes OR MORE!!! Corp and trust tax info is another huge undertaking as far as research goes, and I don’t feel like explaining it all, however I have done enough research to get some decent links put together for you to review on your own. You will quickly find out that corps and trusts are NOT the perfect vehicles to use INITIALLY and may cost you MILLIONS of dollars in unnecessary taxes. For some of you, it may benefit you GREATLY to cash in personally, claim it as capital gains, pay little to no taxes, AND THEN PUT IT INTO A TRUST or CORPORATION!!! Be very cautious taking advice from people on corps and trusts, because even though they may want to help you, they are still salesmen, and may not give you the best advice. Anyone who would try and convince me of setting up a 1000 page long trust for $8000 so that I can pay 42% taxes is someone I will run away from as fast as I can. Do your due diligence, do your research, it could save you thousands and/or cost you millions... Here are some links for more research: http://www.incnow.com/tax.shtml pay close attention to #7: www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3063 http://www.residual-.../LLCsTaxes.html Differences between corporate structures: www.themoneyalert.com/Corp-Entity-Table.html http://www.smbiz.com/sbrl001.html -this is a great link, it shows/proves quite easily how a trust or corp won’t save you money on taxes in all situations With that being said, trusts and corps are great tools! BUT they may not be the BEST tool to start off with. I would much rather pay zero to 15% taxes post-RV, set up a trust or corp and donate or assign the money/assets/profits later and have them 100% protected rather than pay over 15%, 35%, 42% or more in taxes and spending all that money on a structure prior to the RV when I could have bought more dinar, or stayed current on my bills and paid my mortgage on time... Just food for thought. IRS Help You can confirm this information if you like by calling the IRS and ask for "complex individual issues" department at 1-800-829-1040 For those of you who are not US citizens who have green cards or visa’s and not sure where they stand, the IRS has a special department for you as well. Just call 1-800-829-1040 and ask for the “foreign issues department”. For IRS Tax help: They have at least one local taxpayer advocate in every state, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. You can call your local advocate, whose number is in your phone book, in Pub. 1546, Taxpayer Advocate Service—Your Voice at the IRS, and on our website at www.irs.gov/advocate. You can also call our toll-free line at 1-877-777-4778 or TTY/TDD 1-800-829-4059. You can learn about your rights and responsibilities as a taxpayer by visiting our online tax toolkit at www.taxtoolkit.irs.gov. You can get updates on hot tax topics by visiting our YouTube channel at www.youtube.com/tasnta and our Facebook page at www.facebook.com/YourVoiceAtIRS, or by following our tweets at www.twitter.com/YourVoiceAtIRS. I hope I was able to answer some of your questions and concerns, and that you were able to find this helpful. Happy reading! - John Galt http://don't promote other sites.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/17059-tax-ans...

this seems real mean i dunno how the F#### someone can make this up but if they can then wow they need to write some scripts for hollywood. LOL this sounds like it could be done lets al hope and pray it is.

Hello all my fellow Dinarians, The purpose of this post is for many reasons, for those who have read my posts in the past, you probably have a sense of my point of view on this investment, I am hard core believer in facts and have little tolerance for the repeated broken promises in the form of bs intel and false hope rumors. Most of which are aimed at the new investors who fall prey to their own lack of knowledge about this investment, especially about aforementioned rumors and intel. I myself, like many others on here, fell prey to my own lack of knowledge when I first became involved. Even though I quickly wised up to the "it's going to happen Monday" rumors, I still fell prey to the second stage of this investment, research and fact finding. I spent countless hours, sleepless nights, and many, many pots of coffee looking for more and more documents, news articles, anything else I could find to educate myself about the RV and what will have to happen for it to be done. I educated myself on Iraq’s history, government, economy, people, religion, etc. I educated myself about things outside of Iraq that might have to do with the RV like the GOI, HCL,WTO, UN, IMF, CPA, ISX, CBI, Federal Reserve, etc. etc. etc. I spent hours in the forums and chat rooms discussing & debating with, trying to learn more from, or pass on my knowledge to, other dinarians. Basically, I let this investment consume me so much that I lost track of what was happening now and let the dream of being rich run my everyday life, so much so that I even skipped church on Sundays. I own a small seasonal business in Denver, so the winter is my off season and generally my vacation time when business was good. However, last year’s business was not good enough to afford my usual time off and my wife had to have surgery just after the season ended and is now on disability, lucky for us she had decent disability benefits. The economy was so bad that my customers (who are very wealthy people) were not spending money on the bigger ticket items my business depends on and some of these very wealthy people still have not paid me for some of last year’s invoices. I should have realized sooner where things were headed, but I turned a blind eye when I let myself be consumed as I spoke of above. I have tried to find some work, but the economy is so bad that there is not much work to be found right now. We have resorted to selling off years of old, held onto items both around the house and in storage to make it by so far, but some bills still fell behind as we allocated what we do have to the more important bills. I now have a job lined up for the upcoming season, and I am returning to school at the ripe old age of 39 but the soonest the job will start is mid-march, so we still have to make it through a couple more months if I can't find something else in the mean time. Still, there was a lot more I could have done sooner had I not let this investment consume me the way I did. I know there are many of my fellow dinarians who are falling victim to the same thing who are reading this now. My hope is to get others who are faced with similar circumstances to realize that they too have fallen victim and need to learn to balance this investment with what still has to be done today. Sure, you could be rich tomorrow or next week, but what if this were to take 3 more months or even 3 more years? Can you afford to sit and watch this everyday until it happens if it does take that long? At what point do you realize that relying on rumors and intel saying you will be rich soon are not reliable in this investment? I myself reached this point about 2 weeks ago, I realized that so much of what we hear has to be done for the RV to happen is also nothing more than rumor. Don't get me wrong I very much believe this will happen. It is the how, when, and why it will happen that I have issue with. I reached a point where I understood this investment well enough for myself to realize what I believe will lead to this investment paying off. This is JUST MY OPINION and nothing else. I based this opinion on research provided by others like me who focus on the facts along with my own research. I have a group of people that I discuss with although I also recently have not been keeping up with them either as much as I was before. I still read the news, and look at the documents provided by others and to a certain extent keep myself informed on the recent happenings, but not even close to a much as I use to, so if something in my information I am going to share is off, I apologize. While I have backed away from the forums and chat rooms, I still keep myself pretty well informed on certain areas that I believe do have a direct or indirect impact on this investment. Some areas that I do not understand as well, I rely on certain others and their opinions but also try to research as much as I can understand to increase my knowledge in those areas. I make no claims that my own research is not flawed, inaccurate, or wrongly interpreted. There is so much to learn in this investment and sometimes I find a document with good information only to later learn what I thought was the case, turned out to either be false, misleading, or had a change in status at a later date. A lot of what I get is from the Iraqi news like many of you, I myself believe that most of what is printed in the Iraqi news is correct and current information about things like the ministries, budget, ncsp law, distribution of wealth law, Kuwait issues, etc. Iraqi news is also current, some of these reporters post a couple times a day on parliamentary matters, and there are a couple good commentary reporters over there. The news there has proven right more than any guru. I don't buy into any smoke and mirrors when it comes to most subjects except one, and only a little bit is articles from the CBI when it comes to talking about deleting the zeros, increasing the exchange rate, etc. This is the only area I believe smoke and mirrors would be beneficial for them to use in order to keep speculation at a minimum, IMO there is no doubt to me that Selah, the CBI adviser often quoted in articles, is a master of this practice. This man has done an excellent job of confusing everyone as to what the CBI is really doing. And, yes, before someone tells me that some believe that he has no real attachment to the CBI, I believe he is just as the news calls him, an adviser to the CBI and basically the CBI spokesman. He was with Shabbs in December when Shabbs went in front of parliament, and spoke to parliament himself. We know this because it is in the minutes of that meeting. What I know and share is my interpretation of news and documents. I have no special background that makes me more qualified than anyone else who has done their homework about this investment. I have come to the conclusion that some things we think matter is just speculation that it has an impact, and there may be something we don’t know has an impact. It could be that all of the sudden it is done and things we thought still needed to be done are not. It could also go the other way and all of what we thought mattered is completed, and there is something we don’t know about that still need to be completed. First off, I believe that the RV will be part of a process and not so much of an event. Personally, I think this process has already begun and at some point in that process will be an event that happens that will lead to what we will call the RV and allow us to cash out. I will tell you now, that depending on what turns out to matter, not matter, or did not know matters is completed I see a time frame that starts any day after today up to anytime this year. But this is just my opinion I think there are certain upcoming events that it would seem logical for it to be done by, but there is just to much unknown to say that it will be done for those events. 1st is the upcoming Arab Summit in March - I think this is very questionable as to the importance of Iraq revaluing their currency other than to look good to other nations and for Iraq to try and set an example by showing they are capable of being a member and even a leader in the Arab world. 2nd I think is more important in my opinion and that is the expiration of the DFI immunities in June. It seems only logical that they could easily afford to pay off any outstanding debts if they were to have a currency of value. These are the areas I believe that they have a direct or indirect impact on the process leading to an RV 1. The GOI formation, including the ministries, heads of parliamentary committees and the ncsp law. Right now this is a mess, and if I were to try and post all of the issues concerning this issue, this post would go from book to encyclopedia. I will put this simply that I believe that the GOI must be completed in order for other parts of the process to advance. 2. The budget I think is questionable as to its impact of the RV directly, but once again is a necessary issue to be completed in order for the process to advance. 3. The Kuwait issues are also questionable as to the direct impact on the RV, but I think are extremely important due to the fact that Kuwait will not be happy being owed billions in reparations for the invasion of it country if millions of Americans make huge profits off of its currency without being paid themselves first. I think it is possible that Kuwait, and other countries owed debt by Iraq, will get paid off when the IQD's value is set to a starting market rate. (What we will call the RV) 4. HCL law - I believe this has been broken down into smaller laws in order for them to get certain important issues resolved that are addressed by the bigger HCL law that they have been trying to pass. The first of these 2 smaller laws I have read about are the distribution of wealth law and the oil and gas law. This confused me for a while because I thought that the HCL law was the oil and gas law, but one article I read spoke of this breakdown of the HCL law into these smaller laws and calls one of the smaller laws, the oil and gas law. I believe the importance of this lies in the distribution of wealth law because it will specify who gets how much from Iraq’s abundant wealth as oil exports continue to increase. 5. OIL - Contracts and Export - Recently I read an article about what happened when Kuwait’s revalue occurred. What lead to this happening was Kuwait resuming oil exports after the invasion. I believe this will also be the case with Iraq. With so much of Iraq’s GPD reliant upon oil, it will be in my opinion a major factor in the rate of the IQD increasing to market value. The outstanding contracts signed by the Kurds and deemed illegal by the GOI could be the key to all of this, and could be the event we are looking for to happen in order for the process to advance to RV stage. Iraq is due to double its exports by the end of the year, and the recent testing of lines out of the Kurdish region is a sign that the Kurdish agreement to start exporting again is underway. The way I see the RV happening is that at some point the CBI will set the initial rate at a not to low, not to high starting point. If you have not seen it yet, I would read ThePhantomRiders post from today about this, he makes excellent sense of this point. I believe that oil production and export will be of great importance and should be considered a top issue before any increase of the IQD happens. The other issues I mentioned are all part of the process to get the oil flowing so thier importance should not be overlook, but considered as a part of the process. I am not saying I am right. This is once again, JUST MY OPINION. I hope all who are involved will take a hard look at what you are doing on a day to day basis and how much time you may be spending watching, waiting, hoping for this investment to come to fruition. This will happen and one day you will be very happy with the outcome, but in the mean time, don't allow yourself to get distracted and caught up in this investment to the point where you start to neglect things that matter now. Keep your job, or find a job, play with your kids, spend time with your spouse, go to church, enjoy life as you did before you became involved with this investment. Peace be with you all, and God bless.

Hi all, First post and probably the last. I felt so impressed to write this, so here goes. I know no one on this site and have no reputation that you should believe me. But if my words are true you are going to want to consider. When the news of the dinar came to me I began to pray concerning the opportunity. It was September 2010 when the the Lord clearly showed us to go forward. We had waited for that confirmation for several years. Afterwards, the Lord has spoken four things to me. 1) There will be the test of delay. 2) This dinar will reveal what is truly in your soul 3) There will be a short window of time in which to act after the revalue 4) If you seek to hold onto the windfall you will loose it. The Lord told me in Sweetwater TN that the dinar would "test your soul". Since then I have seen all kinds of Christians arguing and fighting about certain things pertaining to the dinar. It should not be that way. I see people regularly engaging in name calling, especially against Maliki, I see the desperation for funds that seems to continually be present with all kinds of people. Others talk about spending wildly/foolishly on things that are extreme luxuries. It appears my word is coming to pass. Many many people are looking to the dinar as the provision, rather than Him who is the Provider. I really had to check my heart as well. He is asking me personally, where do I get my information? Selah. I will share here what almost no one here will know or even understand. I give this to you so that you can consider and take the right actions if you choose. There is a prophetic people that has been seated across the land for the purpose of the Kingdom of God. Starting in around the beginning of 2009 the Lord told us that there would begin the emergence of the Elijah ministry in the earth. This was previsouly told to us in 1996, so it was no surprise when it came about 13 years later. What we did not realize that it would not only be Elijah, but Elisha as well. We did not see the big picture, and perhaps still do not. When this Elisha ministry began we started to see the miracles of Elisha come to pass in a very public, national manner. The eigth sign was the poison in the pot. We learned from the news that the Gulf of Mexico was also called a cauldron on underwather charts. When the oil spill threatened all life in the gulf, we recognized it was the poison in the pot. A group of hidden intercessors went to the headwaters of the Mississippi and threw ground barley meal as instructed by the Lord into the river. Exactly 144 hours and 9 minutes later BP announced the plugging of the well; the approximate time it takes water to flow the river to the gulf. 144 is the number representing the elect that now stand among you. The ninth sign to come is the multiplication of provsion. Many people have now comfirmed that this is linked to the dinar. The Lord has been quiet on this since last July, and we expect the final 8 signs (9-16) to begin to come to pass around this year's Passover.. We are very close, but do not know exactly how this will play out. The Eurphrates flowed under the walls of Babylon. To overcome this city, the Medes and Persians diverted the flow of the water into a swampy area so that they might sneak into the city under the wall. The night before the attack a wild party was happening in Babylon and so the people we hung over the next morning. The armies took the city without much resistance and it still stands today. This story speaks of how the money system, represented by Babylon will fall. If you can receive it, the Medes are the media. The Persians are Iran. The wall is Wall Street. The Eurphates is the substance (money) that keeps the city propped up. The orgy has been going on in Washington DC now for some time. We are looking for the time in which the handwriting on the wall will appear. That sign will tell us exactly when the money system will fail. To bring about this demise the Euphrates (bountiful) will be diverted. We believe this is the sign of the dinar revaluation. It will happen to bring about the fall of Mystery Babylon. The dollar is the means by which money changers enslaved the world in debt. How much do you think the God will overthrow or kick over the tables of the SYSTEM that keeps people entrapped and the gospel from going forth? There is no way anyone can understand why this is happening to the dollar unless you first understand what is happening in world commerce. Since most Christians are comepletely ignorant, they view the coming crash as something terrible, but in reality the kingdoms of the world are becoming the kingdom of our God. Mystery Babylon is mysterious. It was called this because of its hidden-ness. The Lord did not want to replace the yoke of wood He gave the earth with a yoke of iron, therefore, the world was sold into the rule of Babylon without most people knowing. Had they known what was happening, they would have rebelled as Israel did in the biblical account. This would have required the greater sentence thus a much worse world situation. The "Mystery" part of Babylon was much grace to us all as God kept us from understanding to keep us subject to His judgement that we might learn. That is wisdom. Mystery Babylon for our time became manifest on December 23rd, 1913 with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act. This transferred the right to print money from the US Govern't to the string of privately owned banks that had been ruling Europe for many years. Over the last 98 years, we have seen the rise and fall of this world money power in which a defacto world currency was used to enslave most of the nations of the world. In 1974 Kissinger made an agreement with OPEC that all oil would be sold in US dollars only. These states would use the money to buy US debt and allow the press to run ad infinitum ad nauseum. This then required all nations to go to the Federal Reserve to exchange the local currency for the US dollar with which to purchase energy. This is exactly what happened with the Money Changers in Jesus' day. Interest, which is unlawful according to Divine Law, was used to place these nations under control of the money system. Gradually all the nations' central banks fell to the banking system. It has been said that the greastest evil under the sun is not war or famine, but compound interest. At the time of 9/11 only seven publically held central banks existed in the world. Now after our two wars there are only 5. A publically held central bank gives a country the ability to get out of debt. When banks are privately held, the debt is never released but owed to those who print the money. That was the plan of this Babylonian system. This is well understood by anyone who understands money. So in 1983, the seventy years of Babylonian rule had been completed, but the systematic church was not aware of the time it was in. It could not proclaim the release from Babylon since itself had become very much like the world system. God began to call out the overcomers at that time and form a people that would declare a spiritual jubilee and overthrow the Babylonian rule. Details of these years are comprehensive, but I will not write about it here. It has involved much transition and God raised up true intercessors in the nation to repair the breaches in our spiritual gates. Now the church, not being aware of its failure to proclaim the jubliee brought charge against the remnant in the divine court in heaven in 2001, but lost the case. This established God's remnant with the right to rule. They were then instructed then to overthrow the tables of the money changers, set free the captives from the Babylonian system, and produce the fruit of the kingdom. Although many intercessions went out over those years, the financial system held on until October of 2008 for good reason, when we saw the signs of collapse manifest. The head of gold (Babylonian image) would soon be sacked, i.e. Goldman Sachs, and the symbols of Babylon would start to fall. The walled city Babylon was manifested as "Wall Street", which would receive the brunt of the change. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdom of our God. After WWII, Japan was set up as a satellite government of the US. It was run mainly by large money interests and policed by those same powers that were well established in the US government. After fighting such a costly war, there was no way the Allies would allow Japan to ever recover its strength outside their control. The Japanese government has for the most part been an extension of the Federal Reserve banking system. In the last 2 to 3 years, it has rebelled against the financial system electing outsiders to the government rejecting liberal democracy thwarting powers of the CIA which basically ruled it. Many key officials have died mysteriously. Those in the know are full aware of who is responsible for these attacks. As the dollar started its inevitable slide into oblivion because of massive fraud and printing for special interests, increasing pressure on Japanese banks has been applied to exchange dollars for yen, to keep it propped up. There has been much resistance to the west in Japan, seeking its separation from the money system. We have even seen this with Russia and China, who now trade oil in something other than dollars. What these people never knew was that God had called out the people that would have authority to overthrow the money system, and they would be caught in the transition unless the leadership calls the nation to repentance. When a people accept the ways of their corrupt lawless government, they become guilty of the same sins by way of complacency. We are seeing much of the same in America. That which is hidden will be revealed and we must be careful not to rebel against God by judging things that He may very well be sending to purge the nation of its rebellion. This is where the facts get cloudy. There is strong evidence that these money changers, i.e. World Bankers, have used advanced weapons to target nations that were failing their obligations to the financial system (the love of money is the root of all evil). Reports are now coming out of Japan indicating that it was an attack on the fault line that borders Japan. We know there are several technologies that can activate a fault, we just don't know for sure it was used here or why at this time. Photos and video are starting to pop up. It appears that the system is breaking up from the inside as a result of the declaration of the jubilee by the overcomers last year. It is not going to get better for a while as the system struggles for its last breath, but it will not recover until the Kingdom comes. So Mystery Babylon does fall into three parts as it states in Revelation. This will happen both in the spiritual realm and the natural realm. Right now, the banking system is seeking to flee the dollar for a new defacto world currency. Our best understanding will be the Iraqi Dinar, as they are preparing to loot Iraq of its natural resources through money changing. These resources, virtually untapped, are the underpinning of the new Iraqi Dinar. Most of the Babylonian nations are holding vast amounts of these dinar already in their treasuries, and will profit wildly when the Dinar revalues in a few days. Under contract they cannot sell the dinar for 6 months and during that time I believe you will see the events lead up to the splitting of Mystery Babylon. That may be a rumor, but I do think that they will hold their dinars on the balance sheet to make their own currencies more attractive. Currently the Prime Minister of Iraq is Maliki, which means "king". The night Babylon was overthrown, the king of Babylon was killed. We are watching carefully for this sign which will signal the downfall of the world money system. When Maliki is killed or removed from office, the nation will split into three nations, the Kurds, the Shiites, and the Sunni's. It will make the Iraqi dinar worthless overnight and the plans of the world banking systems will collapse in almost an instant. Since all these nations are now HEAVILY invested in the dinar, they will then be sitting on piles of worthless fiat paper with nothing to underpin their own money. Any non-commodity backed currency will fail quickly because of the Babylonian debt system. If Japan was actually attacked with an advanced weapon as some say it was, then we truly understand that the system is failing and God is bringing forth the kingdom as promised. You will never again make this kind of money this fast I think, but you must be wise. Not my intent to lecture, but we are entering an unprecedented time and this will be the largest transfer of wealth in world history as governments scramble to prop up their failing currencies through the revaluation of dinar. First let's understand that the US dollar has been weakening. Although commodity prices have recently strengthened, more than half of that increase has been because of the failing dollar. This is important. We have said for a couple of years that oil insiders have been saying that the bankers are looking for a new world currency to go to since the USD has been spent into oblivion. Both the Euro and Yen have been growing showing signs that this change is close. I will explain.. As the printing press at the Fed is running day and night (actually it is electronically done now) the dollar suffers from excess spending. The more available the dollar becomes, the less value it has in general. However, until now, the banks have mopped up all the extra liquidity to pay for their gambling debts (derivatives) and that has kept the currency off of main street. If this money had gone into circulation, it would have resulted in high inflation and ultimately the loss of control over debts owed to the system. This is the reason why mom and pop never got a dime in the bail out. The main issue now is that the cost of servicing the debt is so high. To have money to spend and keep things propped up, you have to cut spending, raise taxes, or sell off assets. None of these things are popular and that is the catch 22 the government is in. The time it would take to correct this situation is very long... longer than one term in office, therefore no politician will waste their time being a lame duck. So, they are looking for a quick fix... Thus enter the dinar. The 000 on the notes you hold was put there on purpose... in fact for this purpose. The planners of this process knew that eventually they would revalue the dinar and be able to use the instant millions to write off debt. It was perfect because Iraq had so many resources to underpin the currency and with the help of the IMF and others, they could force this thing to happen in a quick way. The players have been put in place and we should see the announcement soon enough. How soon, I will not say, but the news is really good from what I understand now. Ok, so the earthquake and tsunami is playing a role, probably to bring this process home sooner. The largest creditor to the US is China at like $2 Trillion cash (but whose counting?), and the second largest is Japan. Japan has a very high debt load. Some say a larger percentage than the US, but I think we are better at hiding it than they are. This is key. When the catastrophe happened, it forced Japan to start to sell their US treasury holdings which dumped the dollar and made the Yen high in demand. It has really shot up, so much that the FED stepped in this week to prevent a further slide of the dollar. On Friday, we saw some stop gap measures take place, but I see that the dollar is trading at 80.8 yen. The last time I was in Tokyo seveal years ago, the dollar was like 114 Yen... It is really weak. So Japan's debt is 192% of its gross domestic product. It will need to continue to sell US treasuries to finance its restructuring and rebuilding. The pressure on the dollar will cause them to move quickly on the dinar. They are coming to a point where they have to get this done. When it revalues, there will be an opposite high demand for the dollar for a short time, because everyone will want US currency to spend. This will drive the price of the dollar upwards for a while. It will fool many economists into thinking the dollar is recovering as a world currency. Commodity prices will correspondingly drop. For those of you thinking precious metal will be a good investment, timing will be critical. The price will soon drop because of the revalue and then it will skyrocket as many seek to protect their holdings. You know now it is coming, so plan accordingly. Intell is now saying that there will be a drop in commodity prices in the next three weeks.. Hold on to your shorts... it is going to be a bumpy ride. To those who read this comment, know without a doubt that the Lord has placed people in the world to carry out the transition to the kingdom. For this to happen the dollar must be removed as the instrument that enslaves people. The kingdom economy is very close. Don't get caught in the trap of believing your money is safe in the US dollar. It is risky at best. If it is true that the treasury is holding much dinar, and why wouldn't it be, then it would not be surprising that they get caught holding the bag. We shall see. Folks this is going to happen, but making it to revalue is only half the battle. You must secure your return afterwards. Could you spend a million dollars in a day? You may get the chance to find out..

Well I've said it in a previous post today and I will say it again here.......Friendship is the cement that can hold the world together........and while this isn't a social site as such and while we are all here to debate the dinar and all related matters I would urge people to simply smile and be nice.......what is the point really of making antagonistic and rude comments to people who are largely faceless on here. I have had to grit my teeth on many occasions reading some of the posts but I practise what I preach and I walk on by.......it does not make me a wimp...it just makes me a pleasant person who can enjoy this site to a far greater degree.

If you read the top of this forum it says DinarVets, not AOL chat. This site will exist as long as the dinar does not revalue. After that no one will be on this site because they will be out enjoying life. If you are a VIP member, why are you even outside of that. No one forces you to read any posts and aside from that this forum only exists because of this speculative investment. As for your comment about Adam being a great guy; I have yet to read a post on here saying anything bad about Adam. I am sure most if not all people on this forum respect him and give thanks for him creating this board and being able to give us a better education on the dinar. Now as far as people's posts; you have a lot of people on the edge with this investment. Some bought in not having the money to do so. Others get irritated with the fact that everything that happens on a daily basis is a sign of a RV. Others like to chose the religious belief they were brought into this by, and no matter how you swing it, some posts are going to set others off. Much worse now because the fan has been shooting crap everywhere. Now, as for this comment - "So I have to ask, If you’re so smart why aren’t your rich? Why are you having anything to do with the dinars?" Best not to judge people who you know nothing of. Some people may be rich and just invested in this. Others could be financially secure and invest in this. I know people that have money that are idiots. I also know some that have money and are very smart. Sometimes it takes more common sense to be rich than it does smarts. Just because people make derogatory comments or comments you do not like does not label them as a person. We are on a board speaking our mind with some screen name we made up.

Very sad. I have been to the Middle East 3 separate times and have seen families that will use a tree trunk and tarps to make a home. Literally tarps. Until you are in a country like Iraq, or Pakistan and parts of Israel, you really don't know what a third world country is like. It made me sick to come home to this country and hear people get upset because the drapes don't match their carpet. I'm grateful for being over their. I'm grateful for the gifts that I have been blessed with. Thanks for the video. +1

Smee, you only feel guilty because you have a good heart, and are a good person. Us having bought Dinar does not make us like the ones that do this to the Iraqi people, and I know you already know this, but sometimes hearing it from someone else, is confirming. I really listened to the part when the man said, it was pointless to go and vote, and he said "Maliki and Allawi" both, he hopes they are happy. I just feel there is some underlying factor stopping this whole situation to POP in Iraq for the better. Most see the Ministry of Finance building, right there in the middle of Baghdad. I see 500-1000 jobs waiting, being paid for with a RV'd dinar to make it a beautiful building again, and when its done...more jobs for people in each of those offices. I watch all those little babies (I say babies, but all the children) and see my own daughter. I thought about this family all day today, I went out with my little baby, had a beautiful day, we had lunch, and we leisurely went about our afternoon. But this family, stuck in my head. Their little boys face in the picture, who, even though they had NO money, his parents were going to give him a birthday party. Tragedy is happening all over the world right now, it is so heartbreaking, and so tragic. It is a time of chaos and uncertainty EVERYWHERE, more so in the Middle East, and certainly in Japan as well. Now more than ever, I pray for them all, for strength, for courage, as well as to keep hope and love in their hearts. And that God holds them in his arms securely if and when any of them are taken with him. Its times like this, I remind myself to do my part to be a better person and help others.

I feel a litle ashamed of myself for wanting to see the RV so that I can have "better life".It is a life that will include giving to others and helping others but first it will be a life that is easier, and better, for me. And that shames me. when I watch this video. These people have so little, and then they lose that little bit and their friends and family, dead, gone, everything bombed out of existence. Politicians like everywhere lie to get the vote and then don't help at all. My politicians are not as bad as that. My life is not as bad as that. Nowhere near as bad as that. I have a home, and food, and clothing, and even useless furry creatures called cats that I can afford to feed and house and take to the vet. Why do I need to be so concerned about the RV and a better life? I have a great life. Comparing my life to the lives of the Iraqi peiple as portrayed in the video, I have a life and they do not. They only have struggle, and grief, and loss, and more of the same repeated over and over. Since becoming involved in this "investment" I have had two warring sides to deal with. Yes I want the RV. I want to be better off. But yes, also I am grieving for the Iraqi people, and wish there was something that could be done for them. All the alphabet soup of agencies of the world talk a good line but what are they actually doing? what is Iraq doing? I think I have reason to be frustrated. I have no reason to be frustrated. Not in light of what these people are living through. Thank you for posting this ... every investor should be made to watch it. I know money is money and profit is profit but geez ... life is meant to be lived, without daily terror, and daily grief, Sorry to be so disorganized in this rant but I am just still stunned. Far too emotional. smee2 plus Max and Sadie, the furry creatures who have a better life with me than those people in Iraq have. It is neither the US or the Iraqi government blowing up the buildings. It is the terrorist cels that are trying to take over Iraq again ... Al Quida, or whoever. Suicide bombers, and car bombers, as the video says, are using a new Al Quida technique, they go to a shop or an apartment, rent it for more than the required rent and then take in bags of cement in which they have placed powerful bombs, se tthem up in the apartment or the shop and ... kaboom! Whoever is living in the building, or near the shop are hurt, or dead. The young boy, in case you missed the point, was home, because his father would not take the children out because it was too dangerous, and when the bomb went off and levelled the apartment building that had the father's shop in the corner at the bottom, the building collapsed, as you can see, and crushed the little boy, six years old in a few days, body twisted up and broken so badly they did not show it clearly and would not let his mother open the coffin to see how badly he was hurt. She will never know. She will imagine the worst for the rest of her life and always see her son as broken and twisted. She won't remember his as the photo of him, whole and smiling. As they kept asking, what did these children do to make them criminals? What was their crime? Why are they dead? They obviously blame the Iraq government for not keeping them safe, but it is the terrorists who are tring to take over Iraq who are the bomb planters, This is going to haunt me for a while I think. But people have to see these things to know what is really going on. It is hard to know when all you see is a bunch of politicians in suits and photos of great architecture. The blast fences were a first look at reality for a lot of us. But this kind of video goes beyond that and shows the reality of daily life for these people. Tragic. smee2

Thank you for posting this vid. I found it very graphic, but I did not understand though, who is blowing up the buildings and killing the people? Is it Malliki's government? Or, is it the US? If it is us, then why are the US troups still in Iraq when they were supposed to be out? No matter whomever it is, I see how tired, worn and oppressed the Iraqi people are. They dont appear to have the energy to protest. May GOD bless them and guide them toward a safe and gratiying conclusion. Regards, Chape

Sorry but Jesus is very concerned about our daily business! Once HE brings our soul to HIM, HE desires a close relationship and guides our paths and directs us daily . . . and yes, even daily business. He sets us in strategic places so as to enhance HIS Kingdom and declare HIS Name over all the earth. He cares about us, body, soul & spirit. If I decide what is best for myself, then HE is NOT my Master and Lord. No, HE knows what's best. No hard feelings but disagree. ~ Sonnet

:40 PM [Nighthk11] Hello all again 7:41 PM [Dinarling] you’ve got the floor my friend 7:41 PM [Nighthk11] Please consider this: Althoughyt JR brought some concreter facts into play here- This effort is massive in nature and will not end without the dinar being made international 7:42 PM [Nighthk11] If this were so- then we would NOT see the efforts being made to make these people come into the worlds spotlight 7:42 PM [fritzidinar] that’s right 7:43 PM [Nighthk11] At current it does not matter what is being planned for the world by these people- it cannot be accomplished without money which is the name of their game- At this point I see everything on track for the dinar with no issues that it will not occur 7:44 PM [Nighthk11] Everyone will have time to make their individual plans for financial security after RV 7:45 PM [FITTER 1] NIGHT ON THE TME LINE ISSUE, I AM HEARING NO DEADLINES WILL BE SET, IS THIS WHAT YOUR HEARING? 7:45 PM [Nighthk11] Does not really matter what spin we put on this- It is obvious that there is a plan- The end of which will bring Iraq back to world prominence- that means that along with that recognition they will have a strong currency that is recognized by all nations 7:45 PM [FITTER 1] TIME LINE, SORRY 7:47 PM [Nighthk11] Consider- Once the dinar is international how can there be a deadline on exchanging your money- Now they may say that you should exchange your larger denoms for smaller currency because they are being “Retired” If so there will be no value lost- in that aspect they may impose a timeline for people to turn all bills that bear three zeros 7:48 PM [FITTER 1] OK, THANKS THIS IS THE SAME AS I HAVE BEEN TOLD 7:48 PM [FITTER 1] THEN SIT AND WATCH FOREX 7:49 PM [ukmom] so are we still thinking by the 18th ? 7:50 PM [Nighthk11] Now today with the dinar: All the movements being done and people who are integral players in this- are there for a reason- That is to push, push, push Iraq into the 21st century with a strong economy- gov’t and adhering to principles of humanitarian dignity which are observed by civilized nations 7:51 PM [Nighthk11] Today was the beginning of the WTO in attention to Iraq specifically and their request- IMO they have a short time before the 25th of March arrives so that a “Vote” can be taken on their acceptance to the WTO 7:53 PM [Nighthk11] If True Shabibi’s statement of march 10 thru 20 march for RV is the current window- so I am watching that- If it happens ok- If not it’s still OK because of what progress is being made at this time and what direction those efforts are going- all point to world stage for Iraq 7:54 PM [Nighthk11] A strong nation is defined by their gov’t- people- and established value of their money- consider the USA- we left the gold standard decades ago under Nixon yet our currency although having lost some value is still the reserve currency for the world and will remain so 7:55 PM [Nighthk11] The EU was founded to match the economic might of the US- with over 26 countries they still can’t do it- so I would believe that we don’t have too much to be concerned about 7:56 PM [FITTER 1] AT LEAST NOT OUR LIFETIME NIGHT 7:56 PM [Nighthk11] so I think we would be fine to just settle down and watch this play out- we are good folks 7:57 PM [FITTER 1] TY SIR 7:58 PM [Nighthk11] There are a lot of fine people on this site who are extremely intelligent- even if there was a “Conspiracy” which I believe there is- it does not matter because it all spells out MONEY 7:58 PM [fritzidinar] yes sir 7:58 PM [Nighthk11] a portion of which BELONGS TO US FOR HAVING INVESTED IN IRAQ’S FUTURE’ 8:00 PM [Nighthk11] Now Bush- Cheney and others are not fools- with Bush’s actions, he took care of Iraq and the US and moved to stabilize other nations by making sure that they had dinar in their foreign currency reserves- why? because they realized the wealth that Iraq holds and put to the proper use- It could and would help bring about a stabilization of the world’s economies 8:02 PM [Nighthk11] We are at the point now when Blair- who was chosen to oversee the final stages of this operation is directly involved- so we are at the end- I invite all to just watch what happens now- RV will be done- Iraq will be open to all nations who will have an economical stake in it’s coming back to the world stage 8:03 PM [FITTER 1] TONY BLAIR WAS AN EXCELLENT APPOINTMENT TO THIS JOB, NO NONSENSE GUY 8:03 PM [Nighthk11] It is more important that this get done now than later because of the impact that Japan’s disaster will now have on the status of the economy- also Russia will be joining the WTO 8:05 PM [FITTER 1] RUSSIA WHY DO YOU SAY THAT, THEY HAVE FOUGHT IT FOR YRS 8:05 PM [Nighthk11] If you step back- you will be able to see that the paradigm has changed to one of world cooperation towards solving some of the issues that we are looking at- it now becomes a matter of survival for all 8:05 PM [Nighthk11] That is why Biden was there last few days- to help them get into the WTO as full fledged members 8:08 PM [FITTER 1] OK, I HAVE TO AGREE, TY 8:08 PM [sprout43] who appointed Tony Blair..if I may ask??? 8:09 PM [FITTER 1] NO CLUE SPROUT AND WELCOME BACK 8:09 PM [Nighthk11] Now there are many, many perspectives and choices for people to make in regards to this investment- But I choose the ones that make sense to me as an individual- Why would people go to all this trouble and expense if they were not expecting for it to pay out to their benefit- consider all that we have put in and all that we as a people have lost- Bush spoke the truth- these wars will pay for themselves- that is why he took an unprecedented step for any president by authorizing US citizens the right to own and become a part of Iraq’s future 8:11 PM [sprout43] Nighthk11, I had asked a bit earlier…who appointed Tony Blair…. 8:11 PM [shedco] yes night why would we be able to buy these dinars? I agree 8:11 PM [Nighthk11] Tony Blair was appointed by Bush before he left office with the approval of the Trilateral commission- Bilderburg Group and lluminatti- That is a fact 8:12 PM [pasta] true that night 8:13 PM [Nighthk11] Many people and I mean many like things in a neat package and refuse to believe anything that is outside their little world because it is an annoyance or makes them think hard- step outside the boxes that you are confined to, turn around and look back- you will see all that is going on without fail 8:16 PM [Nighthk11] This plan is coming to closure very fast now and we are staring at the results and reval of this currency- It will happen regardless of maliki’s and the iraqi’s nonsense- that is why these groups of people are inside iraq at this moment- They have taken control of the country and will push it in the direction they want- Remember Maliki asked for help from the UN?- IMF-WB-WTO all acting under the UN umbrella gives an air of international semblance to this request 8:17 PM [Nighthk11] I care not who runs a country, as long as I control it’s money- (Baron De Rothschild) 8:18 PM [Nighthk11] owner of Bank Of England- CBI- Fed Reserve and many other central banks 8:18 PM [shedco] and that is the way it has always been 8:20 PM [Nighthk11] Now it does nothing for the dinar to come out at .86 cents because that will not serve the purpose of the plan to stabilize nations- it must come out at a level where it will do the most good, but at the same time not be accessible to people buying large amounts for return to CBI 8:21 PM [Nighthk11] So I ask all here- when you hear or see something that is negative- think of the scope of this plan and what it’s results would be to the worlds economies- it is beyond huge 8:21 PM [milndollarbabe] not to mention it wont serve to dedollarize the country and they can not be a 2 currency country once accepted into art 8 status with the IMF 8:22 PM [Nighthk11] while not the solution for everything it is the foundation and that is why so much was sacrificed to bring this out- if you are broke and have no money- then you create it by using someone else’s (IRAQ) 8:23 PM [Road_Kill] Nighthk11 That makes a ton of sense 8:24 PM [Nighthk11] Think beyond the borders of Iraq when you look and you will see that the scope of this is worldwide- Then consider if it was designed to fail- you will have the answer- It was NOT 8:26 PM [Nighthk11] I have spoken enough today and I hope some of you can understand what I have conveyed- This is real- the people are real- what is happening now is very real and all are about to get paid- all you have to do is LOOK- many thanks as always and I sincerely this helps some- blessings to all BBL

Found this over at ** We all get wrapped up in the Dinar, myself included, but take a sobering look at what the Iraqi people are going through....sucks. Imagine the patience required to live their lives.

Djake.....sounds like you're "crushing" the bashers, nay sayers or negative posters pretty bad yourself....SWING AWAY. Only.....what makes you're RANT any less of what you are accusing others from doing. This is America....least last time I checked.....and everyone is entitled to their opinions, UNLESS you are one of "those" that only think so as long as they go along with YOUR program? Rumors are rumors.....people post them....some say yippie, some say booooo.......some people agree.....some people disagree.........I never read anywhere that it says only "positive" rumors or criticism should posted under that heading, did you? If you can't stand the heat....stay out of the kitchen, albiet....don't post if you can't stand a littel critcism and don't expect every rumor to be in favor of what outcome you would like....they aren't! JMHO bash away

Djake Great vent!!!

3:44 PM [cosiangel] Heya Night!! 3:44 PM [Nighthk11] Whatever is going on??? 3:44 PM [cosiangel] Nice to see you! 3:44 PM [DinarKing] Oh some people actually listen to the gurus 3:44 PM [sslate] Most every site has that personality about it itsme. 3:45 PM [DinarKing] The world is coming to an end 3:45 PM [itsme] Hey nighthk we need some positivness in here! Hope you can help! 3:45 PM [Nighthk11] Well, what is everyone excited about? 3:45 PM [cosiangel] We are wondering–well I was wondering—about the IMF loaning yet more money to Iraq as of Friday? What gives with this? 3:45 PM [sslate] Yeah that’s why we were looking for you a while ago Nighthk. Positiveness. Wow had to copy that word! 3:46 PM [Nighthk11] That money is monies that they have already approved from before- It is paid out in installments—NOT a new loan 3:46 PM [sslate] Oh good. Now Cosiangel can stop worrying. 3:46 PM [cosiangel] If the IMF has stipulations that Iraq is supposed to meet, and one of those stipulations is to RV their currency, and they continue to NOT MEET that requirement (assuming it even exists to begin with) then why ON EARTH would the IMF loan more money to Iraq? 3:47 PM [DinarKing] and I heard they are paying it back before the due dates 3:47 PM [sslate] Me too, Dinar King 3:48 PM [DinarKing] What bank that you know of will not give a loan to someone that pays back?? 3:48 PM [cosiangel] But DK..the currency is worthless…. 3:48 PM [cosiangel] What are they paying back with? 3:48 PM [DinarKing] Then why did you buy it? 3:48 PM [DinarKing] It has worth 3:48 PM [DinarKing] It’s called oil 3:48 PM [sslate] Same stuff they paid KU with. You think? 3:48 PM [DinarKing] black gold 3:48 PM [Nighthk11] When the IMF loans money to a country it comes with stipulations- Free market economy-enhancement of private sector full recognizable currency-since Iraq is slow in doing these things- the IMF along with US Treasury and Royal Bank Of England have taken the reins and are now leading Iraq’s economy into world acceptance 3:50 PM [Nighthk11] Ali is a trader whose business is regulated under US Banking Laws as all international traders operating from US soil are- Therefore, the US will set rules and guidelines for him to remain in business 3:50 PM [DinarKing] Yeah those people that own all the gold and silver 3:51 PM [cosiangel] See, if it were me, I would tell them “you will get your next installment when you do what we tell you that you MUST DO–not one minute before… 3:51 PM [Nighthk11] With the new regulations on the Dinar specifically- since it was signed by Presidential Directive- it will involve the Treasury setting guidelines for it’s exchange into US currency 3:52 PM [Nighthk11] You will be exchanging a foreign currency for US dollars- Therefore the govt has the right to set the standards they will accept for this exchange 3:53 PM [cosiangel] Why would all these “new rules’ not apply to ALL world currencies? Why would the ability to barter currency (and world currency) into gold be affected? Not “just” the Dinar? If these are actual regulations? 3:54 PM [DinarKing] Cosi, Ali said you can buy gold with it. After you exchange it for dollars or another currency 3:54 PM [Nighthk11] That is why we are seeing so many financial professionals inside Iraq at this time to make sure there is accountability for reserves to support their inception onto the world stage and also insure that the US and Britain are protected when this happens 3:54 PM [DinarKing] They want their taxes 3:55 PM [Nighthk11] I just said because it was a Presidential Order 3:56 PM [Nighthk11] Do you see any other currency order signed by a US president that involves Dirham or any other monies? NO- The regulations apply to the Iraqi Dinar- all others are already international 3:56 PM [cosiangel] OK… but DK do these same “suggestions” apply to all world currencies? If someone has an investment in Chinese yuan, do the same rules apply? Or NZ Kiwi? The rule says that no matter what: the IQD must first be exchanged into US dollars first…is it the same with other currencies too? 3:57 PM [sslate] Didn’t Nighthk just answer that Cosiangel? 3:58 PM [Nighthk11] The US does NOT regulate gold- to insure that proper taxes are paid and there is no money laundering- this currency must first be transferred into US denominations- once accounted and accredited- then you may purchase any foreign currencies- or precious metals you wish 3:58 PM [sslate] If he didn’t, then I’m confused 3:58 PM [cosiangel] Ahh OK Night..I see what you are saying 3:58 PM [cosiangel] Because the Dinar is NOT internationally accepted, they had to set rules for this currency 3:58 PM [Nighthk11] Bingo 3:59 PM [sslate] That’s it! 3:59 PM [sslate] I’m so glad we figured that out Cosiangel. (((sigh))) for real. 4:00 PM [cosiangel] Ok I see…Ali didn’t talk about a Presidential Order…but I take your word on that Night 4:00 PM [Nighthk11] Now on the RV- If Shabibi was misquoted about the rate during the Baghdad meeting- and he really meant 3-10 thru 3-20, then those are the windows he was stating for the Dinar to come out- 20 March is Sunday–so patience will prevail!! 4:01 PM [Nighthk11] Ali is regulated just like a bank- If he gives away too much his license can be suspended 4:02 PM [cosiangel] So is barter exchange being shut down for all currencies? Barter exchange is a special circumstance..I would think? However, that they would deny the ability for all currency traders to barter exchange into gold from any world currency…just my thought that the same rules should apply to all world currencies where barter exchange into gold is concerned ..for American citizens..it doesn’t seem fair to do this with one currency and not with all others ?? 4:02 PM [Nighthk11] There is a great deal of Mis-information being spread and accepted by many sites- all well meaning but still mis-information nonetheless 4:03 PM [cosiangel] Seems that way Night 4:04 PM [Nighthk11] Once again barter exchange is being conducted with currencies that are regulated by international trade- The Dinar is NOT- therefore until it is recognized on an international level you will NOT see that- unless you are directly on the ground in the ME and then only thru a currency trader 4:05 PM [Nighthk11] If 20 March passes and there is still no RV – then just adjust- no big deal- the final end of this is an international Dinar with a sustained value 4:06 PM [DinarKing] Yeah we have been doing that for 7 years 4:06 PM [cosiangel] So basically, because the Dinar is not now internationally recognized the Treasury is basically taking license to regulate the Dinar specifically—because they CAN 4:06 PM [itsme] But when is the “final end”?? 4:06 PM [sslate] We have learned the meaning of “long term”. 4:06 PM [Nighthk11] Once again all these people that are now involved on the ground inside Iraq are there for a reason- that is to finally bring this to a close- nothing more 4:06 PM [DinarKing] Yes we have been 4:07 PM [Nighthk11] Long term is OVER- Final END IS VERY NEAR- closer than many of you think 4:08 PM [sslate] We will take your word for it Nighthk. We are ready………I’m pretty sure. 4:08 PM [itsme] Been ready! 4:08 PM [cosiangel] Night..could you speak to the issue of why the exchange rate would need to be at least $1.00 if not higher? Dinar King and bronx are both of the opinion that it would make more sense for Iraq to come in very low as opposed to $3+? Just wondering what you thought are about that? Thanks! 4:09 PM [Nighthk11] Now- If what I read in parts of this report are true- that they were on Iraqi TV telling them again about their new currency- with all that is going on- just how long do any of you think the Iraqi people are going to wait before they start tearing Iraq apart? :10 PM [DinarKing] he has a point there 4:10 PM [cosiangel] Not long…. 4:10 PM [DinarKing] we are seeing the demonstrations 4:10 PM [itsme] well look how long they have been waiting on the GOI 4:10 PM [Nighthk11] At $1.00 or less- Iraq would be owned- that value will not help them with all they must re-pay and all that they have in re-building the country- the main reason is their tangible wealth will not justify that meager amount 4:10 PM [sslate] The hotter it gets and the more hungry they get the sooner it’ll be. 4:11 PM [DinarKing] No longer than we have been waiting its 4:11 PM [Nighthk11] Shabibi must act now that he has his autonomy back because inflation is creeping upwards 4:11 PM [dmitch] Nighthk11 – I have a question when you have a minute? 4:12 PM [Nighthk11] What Ali stated in his interview is the same as any banker in the US would state Long Term Investment be over three weeks maybe two months or so- He cannot tell you what info he really has that is insider trading 4:13 PM [dmitch] Would Ali be considered “insider-trading” if he gave up information that could/would help folks in the dinar world, even though currency doesn’t fall under those guidelines? 4:13 PM [Nighthk11] Yes Lady “D” 4:13 PM [cosiangel] Btw Dmitch I have this copied so far…if you want me to post I can 4:13 PM [DinarKing] TY Cosi 4:13 PM [dmitch] I just got back on…so whoever is copying – that’s great. 4:13 PM [tea] I saw night and stayed to copy. If you want to do it Cosi, go ahead. 4:14 PM [dmitch] Thus, Ali cannot/will not give us an actual RV date – does that make sense Nighthk? 4:14 PM [Nighthk11] Yes Lady “D” any information that is given either precious metals- stocks- bonds- or in this aspect currency- that allows an individual to have an “Advantage” that would enhance their interest is insider trading 4:15 PM [Nighthk11] Ali is operating under Banker regulations- if he did- Treasury would shut down his business and he would go to jail 4:15 PM [DinarKing] It would be against the securities laws for him to state anything 4:16 PM [Nighthk11] Correct securities and exchange commission would shut him down within an hour of that being known 4:16 PM [itsme] Well how can he say the RV wasn’t going to happen this week or not in several weeks 4:16 PM [itsme] ? 4:16 PM [Nighthk11] It is DISINFORMATION 4:16 PM [dmitch] Thank you…I just wanted to make sure everyone understood that. I believe that too many are looking at what Ali has said about the next few weeks and are taking that as gospel, when in fact, he is just keeping the wolves from the door – so to speak. 4:16 PM [itsme] So he’s allowed to give out disinformation? 4:17 PM [Nighthk11] Done everyday- he has done nothing wrong except protect his sources and business 4:17 PM [dmitch] Call it what you may….either way, he’s not giving out pertinent information about a date 4:17 PM [mikexx] Ali’s relative here in the UK told me a few months back that Ali told him, once govt is formed, it will RV 4:17 PM [dmitch] Thank you Nighthk11 4:18 PM [DinarKing] hey mike 4:18 PM [mikexx] HI dinarking 4:18 PM [DinarKing] Good to see you here 4:18 PM [Nighthk11] Correct Mike- Shabs wants someone else responsible if things go south- his credentials and reputation are too important 4:19 PM [mikexx] With that I can agree with you Night 4:19 PM [DinarKing] They are saying the man is a genius 4:20 PM [8ball] Security ministers are huge 4:20 PM [Nighthk11] So I would suggest that we don’t get worked up over articles that are coming out or many will be sick- I am not saying there is no truth in some of them- But as always watch what they are doing 4:20 PM [DinarKing] He managed to keep inflation at bay, in a country where it should go through the roof 4:20 PM [sslate] The term “sly as a fox in the hen house” comes to my mind in association with Maliki 4:20 PM [8ball] There may be an agreement 4:21 PM [DinarKing] Yeah 8ball, they make or break a country 4:21 PM [8ball] Nujaifi in Kuwait — Saturday, 19 March 2011 21:11 GMT — this could be the final piece of the puzzle 4:22 PM [Nighthk11] I saw some statements today about not RVing because Dinar is still being sold at auction- this is not an issue- Dinar that is being sold is accounted for and anything outside Iraq that is not in the ME will not get back to Iraq for at least a decade- it will be held by govts and used for oil and debt repayment. 4:22 PM [8ball] Finishing the GOI is a stipulation from Kuwait 4:22 PM [8ball] To negotiate the end of the sanctions 4:23 PM [Nighthk11] 8ball- they are traveling there to sign an agreement- all of the principal players of Iraq’s gov’t must sign- that is from the Emir 4:23 PM [8ball] Nujaifi is in Kuwait — is the last of the three presidents to go to Kuwait 4:23 PM [Nighthk11] correct 4:24 PM [Astro Guy] and then the Parliament to ratify it; the sanctions to go. 4:24 PM [Nighthk11] Correct again 4:24 PM [8ball] Astro Guy — I think the news with Nujaifi in Kuwait …. is that the GOI formed last week ….IMO 4:25 PM [Nighthk11] If I am correct- everything should come at one time- full Sovereignty-RV-Gov’t announced 4:25 PM [8ball] with an agreement between all parties 4:25 PM [DinarKing] ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, this ride may come to a rapid halt! 4:25 PM [8ball] about the security ministers 4:26 PM [DinarKing] hey I can spell 4:26 PM [cosiangel] Nujaifi being in Kuwait tells us how much TRUE POWER Nujaifi actually has! I had a feeling 4:26 PM [Astro Guy] I would believe that too 8ball. All ministries in place already…whatever reason it may create speculation elsewhere and that’s why it may not be official for that reason IMO 4:26 PM [Nighthk11] He is the Sunni president of the Iraqi Parliament 4:27 PM [8ball] He is an officer of the country of Iraq 27 PM [8ball] his signature is binding 4:27 PM [Nighthk11] Correct again 4:27 PM [DinarKing] and Kuwait is a Sunni nation 4:27 PM [Astro Guy] Speaker of Parliament; who has to set the legislative agenda, either it is ratifying some bilateral agreement or a vote on monetary policy or whatever 4:28 PM [Astro Guy] which Nujaifi is 4:28 PM [8ball] He may also be there to understand what Kuwait wants as far as format 4:28 PM [8ball] To the signing of the agreement 4:29 PM [Nighthk11] OK folks BBL you are in good hands with Astro and 8Ball 4:29 PM [8ball] Since Kuwait has stipulated that the new government must sign and be formed 4:29 PM [sslate] Thanks for coming in Nighthk and solving Cosiangel’s riddle of the day. 4:30 PM [DinarKing] Astro, do you think the Perigee moon has something to do with the RV 4:30 PM [itsme] Thanks Night! 4:30 PM [cosiangel] Yes, thanks so much Night! Really appreciate your opinions! 4:30 PM [cosiangel] Nice to have Astro and 8Ball here also 4:30 PM [8ball] Before Kuwait will release Iraq from the sanctions 4:30 PM [cosiangel] Welcome to you both! 4:30 PM [itsme] I believe we got positiveness back in here! 4:30 PM [8ball] Thanks 4:31 PM [Astro Guy] They believe in such…not sure of RV as such but something related to that they would have taken up. Like Saleh’s defacto warning shot in the air. 4:31 PM [8ball] Last week they may have hidden the fact that the security ministers have been chosen 4:31 PM [cosiangel] 8ball, I did not know about Kuwait’s stipulation of the gov’t being formed 4:31 PM [8ball] fact 4:32 PM [cosiangel] That explains alot 4:32 PM [8ball] Well it places pressure on Iraq to form the GOI . 4:32 PM [Astro Guy] Unless pressurized, it’s always wait out and win for Maliki 4:33 PM [8ball] Otherwise Maliki would be happy doing the soft shoe shuffle for the world 4:34 PM [8ball] The UN is supplying Iraq with technical help in the ministry’s to finish this 4:35 PM [8ball] I think that every time Maliki goes to Parliament to finish something … there is always something not finished 4:36 PM [8ball] The newly elected ministers have no idea 4:36 PM [8ball] Iraqi’s under Sadam have only learned one thing 4:36 PM [Astro Guy] It seems some laws were already read twice prior to their sine die of parliament.and women provided with small loans. Setting up of basic fundamentals for middle class economic recovery. 4:36 PM [8ball] How to hide…………. 4:36 PM [cosiangel] Curious about your opinions on this 8ball and Astro—do you think that Maliki really truly wants an RV ? Over keeping the people poor and beholden to the Gov’t? 4:37 PM [Astro Guy] I think its not up to him anymore if he wants or not; IMO 4:37 PM [8ball] Iraq has taken the IMF loans 4:37 PM [8ball] It is out of their hands 4:37 PM [sprout43] Astro…who do you think it’s up to now…YOU?? 4:38 PM [sprout43] Astro 4:38 PM [sprout43] Or 8Ball…either one of both 4:38 PM [8ball] Well Iraq, controls the timing with the delays 4:39 PM [Astro Guy] I am gonna read Mr Saleh’s note a few more times, trying to see if I can understand any of his hidden agenda 4:39 PM [8ball] Iraq will appear on the Forex one day as a Sovereign country 4:40 PM [8ball] Forming the Democratic Iraq is what is important to the UN 4:40 PM [8ball] IMF 4:40 PM [8ball] US 4:40 PM [8ball] WTO 4:40 PM [8ball] etc 4:41 PM [8ball] for this Iraq wins the prize 4:41 PM [8ball] a tradeable currency 4:41 PM [8ball] amongst other things 4:41 PM [DinarKing] and as you can see on the news, other countries are wanting democracy too 4:42 PM [8ball] they all want their freedom 4:42 PM [DinarKing] and they think the USA will be there to help them 4:42 PM [Lady of the Lake] the PEOPLE want their freedom, perhaps the ruling class are not so willing 4:42 PM [DinarKing] yes lady 4:42 PM [8ball] All Iraq can do right now is control the timing of the RV through delays 4:42 PM [DinarKing] they like control 4:43 PM [Astro Guy] When he is talking about the damage fire etc. is he talking about the recent fire at their office that could have possibly damaged something ? To be sure.. 4:43 PM [8ball] The time limit is up to…. June 2011 4:43 PM [breitling] HI ALL 4:43 PM [DinarKing] Hey B 4:43 PM [breitling] 8BALL HOWDY 4:43 PM [breitling] DinarKing HI 4:43 PM [dmitch] Good afternoon Breitling! 4:43 PM [8ball] Which the DFI protection will lapse on 160 billion USD funds 4:44 PM [8ball] Hello Breitling !!!!!!!!!!!! 4:44 PM [cosiangel] Heya Mr. B!! Long time! 4:44 PM [itsme] Hey B 4:44 PM [shm925] So are you saying, 8ball, that they have till June 2011 to RV? Surely not!!! 4:45 PM [8ball] Iraq will lose protection on their funds 4:45 PM [shm925] OK thx 4:46 PM [8ball] THEY BETTER HAVE EVERYTHING DONE 4:46 PM [8ball] by then 4:46 PM [Astro Guy] One may think that of many the three of the agenda of the US intervention in Iraq; free up the potential of oil from the clutches of a dictator, bring Democracy to a secular country and make it a role model so that the rest in the region can follow; that’s happening now in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, Yemen and so on.. The last is to restructure their economy and monetary system. 4:47 PM [DinarKing] and that is why the Saudis would not talk to Hillarious 4:47 PM [DinarKing] they are worried 4:49 PM [22222] they said they will have the DFI removed by May 1 4:50 PM [shm925] so are you guys still thinking this month then? 4:52 PM [DinarKing] well everyone that was a good discussion 4:52 PM [DinarKing] see you all on the flip side 4:53 PM [shm925] just caught the tail end of it, but what I saw it was good, thx to everyone who participated 4:53 PM [shm925] cya DK 4:53 PM [DinarKing] I have to find a good SUV so I can take the job in JAX 4:53 PM [DinarKing] I believe some people have it copied shm 4:54 PM [22222] I would like to get everyone’s opinion on what you asked shm…still this month? 4:54 PM [shm925] ok thx DK. u looking for a new or used SUV? 4:54 PM [DinarKing] oh if anyone knows of a good and inexpensive SUV with good mileage please let me know 4:54 PM [shm925] that answered that ? 4:54 PM [shm925] define inexpensive and good mileage 4:54 PM [DinarKing] I don’t have a job yet shm so I have to pay cash BREITLING CHAT 4:55 PM [dmitch] 8ball, Astro Guy, Breitling….are you all finished…if not, please continue 4:56 PM [8ball] Breit will be here shortly 4:56 PM [shm925] Thx 8ball 4:57 PM [breitling] JUST WANTED TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP FOR YOU ALL 4:57 PM [breitling] TONY BAIR IS NOT IN CHARGE OF THE IMF 4:57 PM [breitling] END OF STORY 4:58 PM [DinarKing] Who is by the way? 4:58 PM [breitling] HE MAY BE WORKING WITH ALL TYPES OF GROUPS AS A EX-PRIME MINISTER 4:58 PM [breitling] TELL EM 8BALL WHO IS IN CHARGE ? 4:58 PM [breitling] THE MAIN GUY AND THEN THE DIRECTING MANAGER 4:59 PM [8ball] Geithner 4:59 PM [DinarKing] We know Moon is in charge of UN 4:59 PM [DinarKing] oh ok 4:59 PM [shm925] for real?! 4:59 PM [shm925] hmmmmm….. 4:59 PM [22222] Isn’t Blair tied to the WB? 4:59 PM [shm925] interesting 4:59 PM [breitling] WHAT DO YOU MEAN TIED? 5:00 PM [DinarKing] He is one of those guys that puts him monies off shore 5:00 PM [8ball] Treasury Secretary sits as chair to the IMF 5:00 PM [sprout43] Thanks Breitling…didn’t think he was…no indication in any research I’ve done 5:00 PM [22222] Somehow, involved in the management 5:01 PM [mikexx] If he was it would have been in the UK media by now and there has been nothing 5:01 PM [sprout43] He is a consultant for JP Morgan and Chase….or was after he left office 5:01 PM [dmitch] let Breitling finish please 5:01 PM [8ball] 22222 — Blair being a world figure will be on most board of directors of BIG companies 5:01 PM [breitling] CORRECT 8BALL 5:02 PM [breitling] HAS HANDS IN IT ALL 5:02 PM [breitling] BUT LETS TREAT THIS INVESTMENT WITH SOME RESPECT 5:02 PM [breitling] DO YOUR HOMEWORK 5:04 PM [breitling] WE WILL SEE THE RV 5:04 PM [breitling] DON’T WORRY 5:04 PM [dmitch] Breitling – I think for the most part, our members do their homework….just lots of conflicting information, thus making it hard to know what is correct. 5:04 PM [breitling] JUST TIRED OF THE FLY BY NITE CLAIMS AND DOT CONNECTING BASED ON THOSE CLAIMS 5:05 PM [breitling] I WANT MORE THEN ANYTHING FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE MONEY 5:06 PM [breitling] AND TO DO SO THE INFO HAS TO BE GOOD 5:06 PM [breitling] THIS IS THE BEST INVESTMENT ON THE PLANET 5:06 PM [breitling] PROMISE YOU THAT 5:10 PM [breitling] SORRY HOPE YOU’RE ALL NOT WAITING ON ME 5:10 PM [breitling] I CAN DO A Q AND A IF YOU WANT 5:10 PM [Astro Guy] looking forward to it B 5:11 PM [breitling] I DO HAVE A DATE AND RATE 5:11 PM [breitling] BUT I PROMISED TERRY K I WOULD NOT TELL YOU ALL 5:11 PM [Lady of the Lake] Breitling 5:11 PM [tmc-1123] ha,ha,ha 5:11 PM [breitling] OH BY THE WAY 5:12 PM [breitling] I HAD TO LAUGH MY ASS OF MED’S POST 5:12 PM [breitling] OFF 5:12 PM [breitling] WOW 5:12 PM [breitling] ALL I CAN SAY 5:12 PM [Lady of the Lake] Breitling, which one please? 5:13 PM [breitling] THE ONE HE SAYS PEOPLE GAVE UP ON THIS INVESTMENT 5:13 PM [shm925] That’s right, tease us Breit 5:13 PM [breitling] BECAUSE 144 PEOPLE ONLY ON 5:13 PM [shm925] yea, that one was very entertaining for sure 5:13 PM [breitling] AND ONLY ABOUT 3 TALKING 5:13 PM [breitling] THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN UP ON THIS INVESTMENT 5:13 PM [breitling] THEY GAVE HIM UP 5:13 PM [breitling] THEY ARE ALL JUST SOMEPLACE ELSE 5:13 PM [breitling] FOR THE LOVE OF PETE 5:13 PM [shm925] very true 5:14 PM [shm925] I am still a member just haven’t been on in months 5:14 PM [shm925] still get the emails 5:14 PM [breitling] GOD BLESS EM 5:14 PM [breitling] BUT WOW 5:14 PM [shm925] Yeah, really 5:15 PM [dmitch] Breitling – it’s very sad over there now 5:15 PM [breitling] SAD? 5:15 PM [breitling] IT IS DEAD 5:15 PM [dmitch] he did a mass email…just to get folks excited and get them to come back to DS!!! 5:15 PM [breitling] THAT WHOLE SITE NEEDS JESUS 5:15 PM [dmitch] He’s now grasping at straws 5:16 PM [breitling] ANY ? 5:16 PM [mawbell] I just hope that the ones that are left don’t drink the Kool-Aide 5:16 PM [shm925] Really Mawbell, but don’t be surprised, if some of them do. 5:16 PM [breitling] NA DONT WORRY SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL LEARN 5:17 PM [sFCDiaz] Why Mawbell ?? 5:17 PM [shm925] hope not too much later 5:17 PM [breitling] OH, A HIGHER NOTE 5:17 PM [breitling] I AM PUMPED ABOUT THIS INVESTMENT 5:17 PM [breitling] TWO THINGS COME TO MIND 5:17 PM [22222] CAN YOU GIVE US A BALL PARK ON THE DATE? ALL I CARE ABOUT IS IF IT IS BEFORE APRIL 11TH 5:17 PM [sprout43] thanks Breitling for a dose of reality….concerning taking everything at face value 5:17 PM [breitling] OPENING OF FOREX SERVICES IN IRAQ 5:18 PM [breitling] THE TREASURY PUTING A STRANGLE HOLD ON DINAR TRADERS 5:18 PM [breitling] AND ALSO YOU ALL REMEMBER OBAMA’S SPEECH ? 5:18 PM [dmitch] yes 5:18 PM [breitling] UNITED STATES CIVILIANS AND IRAQI’S WILL FORGE A NEW AND LASTING RELATIONSHIP THIS YEAR 5:19 PM [breitling] THAT STILL RINGS IN MY HEAD 5:19 PM [breitling] THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER 2010 5:19 PM [shm925] yes what dmitdh/ 5:20 PM [breitling] FROM REPORTS 5:20 PM [breitling] NOM VALUE $1.17 5:20 PM [breitling] ALL I CAN SAY 5:20 PM [breitling] FROM THAT POINT ON I DONT HAVE A CLUE 5:21 PM [DinarKing] yea .68 5:21 PM [breitling] WITH JUST THE RESERVE 50 BILLION X 6 5:21 PM [breitling] THE DINAR CAN COME IN AT .13 5:21 PM [DinarKing] been saying that since 2005 5:21 PM [breitling] NOW ADD THE DFI 5:21 PM [breitling] ADD OIL FUTURES 5:21 PM [breitling] ADD GOLD FUTURES 5:21 PM [breitling] ADD N GAS 5:21 PM [Lady of the Lake] Breitling do you mean 13 cents or RATE? 5:21 PM [breitling] EACH ADD TO THAT NUMBER 5:22 PM [breitling] UNDERSTAND? 5:22 PM [03goldwing] would that be 1.00 divided by .13??? 5:22 PM [breitling] WHAT ? 5:22 PM [breitling] 13 CENTS JUST BASED ON THE RESERVE THEY HAVE 5:22 PM [breitling] THE RESERVE IS AT 50 BILLION 5:22 PM [breitling] X 6 5:23 PM [breitling] .13 5:23 PM [breitling] OK 5:23 PM [breitling] ADD VALUE TO THAT 5:23 PM [breitling] DFI 5:23 PM [breitling] OIL 5:23 PM [breitling] N-GAS 5:23 PM [breitling] GOLD 5:23 PM [breitling] AND ALL THE REST 5:23 PM [DinarKing] Dates 5:23 PM [breitling] YOU SEE HOW IT STARTS TO ADD UP 5:23 PM [breitling] WINDOWS 5:24 PM [breitling] END OF Q 1 FOR 2011 5:24 PM [breitling] SO END OF MARCH 5:24 PM [breitling] IF NOT 5:24 PM [breitling] DFI 5:25 PM [breitling] THOSE ARE MY BEST GUESS 5:25 PM [breitling] WHAT DO WE HAVE COMING UP TO LOOK AT 5:25 PM [breitling] MAY 1ST 5:25 PM [breitling] PAY ALL COUNTRIES FUNDS NEEDED TO BE PAID OFF 5:25 PM [breitling] MID MAY ARAB SUMMIT 5:25 PM [breitling] JUNE 30 DFI 5:26 PM [breitling] ALSO I DONT HAVE THE DATE BUT EVEN MORE DEBT FORGIVEN TO IRAQ 5:26 PM [breitling] WHICH SHOULD ADD EVEN MORE VALUE TO OUR DINAR 5:26 PM [breitling] IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER 5:27 PM [breitling] DONE 5:27 PM [Astro Guy] If they miss the goals again, extending the DFI for another year may be very, very difficult…that’s the consequence. 5:27 PM [breitling] THE U.N. PROMISED IRAQ 5:27 PM [breitling] IN NOV 5:27 PM [breitling] THIS IS THE LAST TIME 5:27 PM [Lady of the Lake] wasn’t there a date, by which, IF they had not RV’d … the Paris Club debts would resume???? 5:27 PM [breitling] FOR BETTER OR WORSE 5:27 PM [breitling] THE PARIS DEBTS START IN JULY 5:28 PM [breitling] AND IRAQ HAS TO PAY THEM 5:28 PM [breitling] AND WILL DO SO UNTIL 2025 5:28 PM [Lady of the Lake] to resume? to the latter if they are not paid 5:28 PM [breitling] I THINK A PORTION THEY HAVE TO PAY ANYWAY 5:28 PM [Lady of the Lake] adding all that was forgiven? 5:28 PM [breitling] BE HONEST NOT SURE WHAT % 5:29 PM [breitling] ANY ? 5:30 PM [sprout43] wasn’t it 80% forgiven? 5:30 PM [breitling] HALF sprout43 5:30 PM [breitling] AND EVEN MORE WILL BE 5:31 PM [breitling] WHEN IRAQ DOES GOOD WE GIVE THEM PERKS 5:31 PM [milndollarbabe] Lady of the Lake 80% was forgiven and the payment schedule on the balance of 20% begins in July to be paid out over a period of 25 years….its guru urban legend that if they don’t pay they lose the 80% already relieved…..they could just postpone a payment or delay a payment….I wouldn’t look to this as a trigger date. 5:32 PM [milndollarbabe] and hello everyone …Hi Breit 5:32 PM [breitling] milndollarbabe THANK YOU FOR THAT 5:32 PM [milndollarbabe] sure thing 5:32 PM [Lady of the Lake] milndollarbabe thank you Babe, just reading the agreement, I think I’ll post it in GENERAL for anyone who wants to read… THANKS 5:33 PM [milndollarbabe] yw! 5:33 PM [breitling] milndollarbabe SO THE JULY DATE DOES START 5:33 PM [breitling] GOOD I WAS RETHINKING 5:33 PM [milndollarbabe] yes, payments start in July 5:33 PM [breitling] I THOUGHT MAYBE I WAS OFF 5:33 PM [milndollarbabe] nope you were right there 5:33 PM [breitling] BUT IT IS JULY 5:34 PM [sFCDiaz] Cash in small denominations and minds of the public servants Iraqi Banknotes 19.03.2011 viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25280 5:34 PM [smurf] US asked for 95% 5:35 PM [milndollarbabe] did that get accepted Smurf? 5:35 PM [smurf] no 5:35 PM [milndollarbabe] OK I didn’t think I had seen in anywhere…but you never know 5:36 PM [sFCDiaz] Shara announced an agreement to resolve the political blocs, candidates and security ministries to be announced early next week March 19th, 2011 02:06 pm viewtopic.php?f=14&t=25282 5:39 PM [breitling] I WILL SEE YOU ALL LATER 5:39 PM [milndollarbabe] Breitling …continue on….I didn’t mean to interrupt, just wanted to answer Lady’s question 5:39 PM [breitling] GREAT TO CHAT WITH YOU ALL 5:39 PM [breitling] NO I AM JUST HANGING 5:39 PM [milndollarbabe] oh ok 5:39 PM [sslate] Glad you dropped in Breitling. 5:39 PM [breitling] WAS NOT A CHAT 5:40 PM [breitling] HOPE YOU’RE ALL DOING WELL 5:40 PM [breitling] GLAD YOUR ALL STILL IN THIS 5:40 PM [sslate] All is well 5:40 PM [milndollarbabe] thanks and good to see ya 5:40 PM [breitling] WILL BE WORTH THE WAIT 5:40 PM [milndollarbabe] it better be! 5:40 PM [breitling] LATER ALL 5:40 PM [milndollarbabe] 5:40 PM [breitling] 5:41 PM [cosiangel] Thanks for coming by Breitling!!! 5:41 PM [cosiangel] Good to see you! 5:41 PM [cosiangel] I will be cleaning this very lengthy chat up now and get it posted 5:42 PM [cosiangel] FYI 5:42 PM [tea] Thanks, Cosi!

Kind Sir, I thought the question posed was: Are we spreading ourselves too thin? It wasn't asking if we are for or against the military exercise. Thus, I was replying to a question in which I could provide a factual response. If you'd like to open a debate on whether this military exercise is one that we should get in to, then on which grounds shall we debate it? Economically, politically, or morally? There are pros and cons to both. Give me the parameters on which you'd like to discuss and I'd be more than willing to engage you. But please don't hijack this posting, as you did not answer the question posed. To be blunt, if this was an essay question on a college exam, you would get zero points for the question posed, as you answered it incorrectly. And yes, while this isn't a college course, real life kind of treats you the same way...it's called Karma. Thanks, Tiff

AMEN! You know my thoughts Qman, I'll give you all my guns..........ammo first! Peace.

In our quest for truth in Iraqi politcal protocols, and their affect on dinar revaluation, we need to evaluate the collective external theocratic/geo-political pressure in/on the middle east. A basic review of Islamic tenets could help clarify the socio-economic position that Iraq now holds. Jihad: using all of one's strength, as well as moving toward an objective with all of one's strength and resisting every difficulty. Shari'a: Islamic law - best viewed as God's all-encompassing path for how people should live their lives in the world, including not only basic faith and morals, but personal status and criminal law. The Sunni school of thought includes a universal and long standing belief that the use of individual reason is not permitted and that all Muslims need follow versions of Shari'a. With the above in mind, I have tried to condense the implications of current events as they pertain to Iraqi economic development. As I have noted in the past, Saudi Arabia controls the material and political output of OPEC - and with only one percent of the world's Muslims, she controls about ninety per cent of the world's Islamic institutions. The Sunni based Wahabi doctrine they teach is one murderous to Shi'ites, Jews, homosexuals, and apostates. Repressive toward the role of women, their overall politic is shared by al-Qaeda. Both seek, differing only in tactics, to move us all toward a world-wide theocratic totalitarian dictatorship, the caliphate. "The Wahabi-al-Qaeda rivalry is lethal, but it is not a battle over values. It is essentially a bitter fight over who should be in charge of getting all of us under the Caliph's control". (James Woolsey, CIA director '93-'95). Think of the wide influence the Saudis enjoy: from Morocco to Pakistan, Turkministan to Sudan in the south - all governed by the Sunni based jihad - the exception being Iran and it's Shi'ite based radicalism. Middle east monarchies draw their impetus from their long history of rule over respective melting pots of Islamic sects i.e. Bahrain - comprised of 30% Sunni with 70% mostly Shi'ite. This, along with the fact that Saudi Arabia was essentially the first middle east country to exploit their petroleum resources, should leave us considering the trend setting nature of twentieth century development. Just watch how they dole out favors to garner global support for their insidious agenda. They think nothing of tapping reserve oil from played out fields to supply shortfalls in China and India - all the while playing the benevolent card of 'business as usual'. This business as usual sentiment is underwritten every time we fill our tank. It seems the trippling cost for a barrel of oil since the 90's coincides with trippling production costs the Saudis are currently faced with. The 'water cut' (pumping sea water into their wells to maintain well head pressure for extraction) is now over 50%. This practice increases the sulphur content and makes processing more difficult and expensive. Is it any wonder why they have their eye on Iraqi oil along with the contiguous nature of their geo-political agenda? I've seen regional civil strife developing for several years. It started with open and free elections for Iraqis in 2005 - leaving Syrians and Egyptians hoping their Arab/Berlin wall could crack a little more. Threatened by the created dissent, Mubarak promised a presidential election and the Saudis hinted of women's voting rights. Other, smaller demonstrations throughout the region were played down by governments with little or no media coverage. The foment continued with al-Qaeda assistance and peaked with the start of the Tunisian uprising and which fed the Libyan dilema we now face. Last week, Quadafi stated al-Qaeda would rule northern Africa should the protesters win the country. He may be partly correct in his assertion but I also think he is desparate enough to evoke world fear as a last resort. The paultry Obama support for a 'no fly' zone over Lybia is his (Obama's) way of walking the fence between the major factions fueling this theocratic clash. A 'no fly' zone has little effect on military operations directed at insurgents who face daily reprisal from helicopter straffing and mercenary led ground ops. United Nations endorsed intervention is left to European subscribers of Lybian oil and provides the necessary excuse to limit US involvement. How does this all play into the RV scheme of things? The only thing preventing a jihadist takeover in Iraq is our presence. Once we leave, it is a whole new ball game with a serious global economic outcome. An independent Iraq would lack the politcal infrastructure necessary to thwart any threat and I am afraid the remaining 50,000 US military is insufficient. Consider all the above when extracting a date and a rate.

Democracy--getting rid of Dictators has no price --

l LET'S MAKE SURE THE MILTARY ARE TAKIN CARE OF if anyones pay should be suspended lets start at the TOP and use the trickle down method----the prez first then , congress ,senate next then the bloated government agentcys--till we get to the post office--LOL! CLIFF

For me personally, seeing this makes me realize just how much we take for granted in our daily lives! Just this afternoon, my wife and I enjoyed a movie and dinner with friends. I cannot imagine the heart ache and suffering the people of Iraq are enduring. I pray and thank God for the blessings in my life and I pray for the people of Iraq that they may soon find a reason to hope for a better life!

Who knows….he may shut you up. He may be Irish.

Lol I'm not using a bank as an MO because I don't have one. I gave you a personal situation that happened to me. CLEARLY you missed that from the entire post. It's a wonder people are terrified to post anything on here. You could be a little nicer, but guess not. Take a nap or have a mojito...or something!

JANUARY 19TH, 2011 08:02 PM Hello folks, First I’d like to point out that I never put out any information mainly because I don’t have any to share ! I’m a student at John’s University NY, I’m no guru or what’s so ever. I’d like to point that out. I just came back from a 2h private conference at UN headquaters in NYC, which was quite interesting. Let me cut to the point, after the meeting i went to talk privatly with the guy that made the conference. I asked him about the meeting that took place the 15th of dec in iraq, he confirmed the lifting of parts of chapter 7. I did ask him this question : “do you have any clue on when iraq is going to come completely out of chapter 7 ?” He said to me “Sir, iraq is already out of chapter 7 sanctions for 3 weeks now, VP Biden and others agreed to lift the rest of the sanctions in this very building you are staying” I then said : “but, don’t they need to have an international recognized currency to do so ?” answer : “this was never a requirement to get iraq out of chapter 7″ I will not draw any conclusion from this, just wanted to let you know. Again not my writings just my findings while trying to conduct research to answer your question. Dunno for sure but this is the latest I could find. Peace.

i dont care if you dont believe in prophecy or God, to each his own. everyone has a right to share their own rumors and perspectives based on their beliefs. [LB] I talked to a friend of mine yesterday that is invested. He went to a youth convention with the teens of our church (and the teens and leaders from many other churches) While there during the worship time, 2 seperate people came up to him and prophesied that his investment was about to come through. [LB] didn't even know the people- and the two people didn't know each other or hear what the other said [LB] My friend does not look like someone who would even have investments [LB] My friend had been feeling discouraged about the whole thing- it sure lifted his spirits!

I agree about the negative nates. Let's face it, we are on this site to find a little hope in our lives. It is sustaining. Trying to belittle and prove someone wrong shows that these people are insecure and need a defense mechanism. Disagreement is okay, but some of this really, really gets personal. These people will not be blessed by an RV anyway. Somehow, it will create a disaster in their lives. Negativity does not change because your circumstances do.

Great post. Thanks.

Your not going to find it, there is no such thing as the Iraqi dinar RV, has not happened, and it is pure speculation that it ever will. So if you are looking to research the RV/RI of the Iraqi dinar, all you are really going to find is what is on these various forums and blogs. Adam Montana has a book with alot of information in it about the possibiity of the RV, but once again it is speculation. The kuwait sitsuation is much, much different from the Iraq sitsuation, so don't take what happened there and expect that is what will happen in Iraq. People have been saying for a long time that what happened in Kuwait is going to happen in Iraq, but once again, you guessed it, it is pure speculation. No one really knows. Even professional currency traders will have different views on the possibility of a revaluation or reinstatment of the Iraqi dinar. Adams book is a good place to start, it does have good information, but dont let it become your dinar bible. Read it, then do your own research, and form your own conclusions, they will be as good as anyone's out there. I would also suggest you read this too before you get to caught up in the dream of being rich we call the RV.

A sense of fairness, while applaudable, isn't the issue here. Dozens of people on these websites over the course of the past 3-4 years have claimed to have knowledge, contacts, and "intel" which clearly they did not, and DO NOT have. This fact has been demonstrated repeatedly, and yet people flock to them for more. What proof is there that Ali, or any other dealer has any so-called "contacts" with knowledge of an RV? Ali has said that he has none, and that would seem logical. It's readily apparent . Dinar dealers are not the FOREX market, and in theory at least, it seems logical that they would have more motivation than any other potential source, with the possible exception of the G.O.I. for disseminating false information about a potential RV. This never-ending stream of outright lies and "false" information is not developing from thin air. It's obviously well organized and has been extremely effective in the sale of dinars. We don't yet know the source, but clearly there HAS to be one. My point about the insider trading regulations was simply that I don't believe that they currently apply to Dinar dealers. Perhaps they should, but statements that Ali would be guilty of a violation of insider trading regulations were he to tell someone something he has heard is simply not valid. It also implies that he "knows something" which seems highly unlikely given the evidence we've seen over the past few years. What this belief effectively does is spur additional Dinar sales, and nothing more.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markazaliraq.net%2F%3Fstate%3Dnews%26viewId%3D6488 We will see.

lol if shes wrong her stomach will rupture due to 50 pounds of tomatoes flowing into her. If shes right I will be her hero baby, I can kiss away the pain....lol.

I have to say that I normally pass by these kind of posts very rapidly but on this ocasion there is something kinda plausible in what she is saying. I REALLY hope this is the real deal.......but if not Bondlady said herself we can throw tomatos at her so I bought a box just incase

I cant stand when people start arguing about religion. This Is a Forum for Information on the Iraqi Dinar. Please take that elsewhere. On a better note. Thank you for sharing. Night Is always great to hear from. Go RV

Capike, Here is the way I see things. If you are right and God, heaven, hell, miracles are not real, what have I lost as a believer in Jesus Christ? But, if I am right and God does exist, there is a heaven, a hell, miracles, etc. what have you lost? God bless you, my friend.

Well Slade, you're about as cold as a set of duck nuts on ice. But at the rate you're going you're gonna get hot real soon. He's coming back. BurgerKing lets you have your way. The Real King set the sun, the moon,the stars.He let you set your mind. He takes care of babies and fools. you dont seem to niether . Try being a son you might like it.....Just sayin'

My an old army buddy of mine where just talking about this since this did happen during the Clinton years and we remember a few weeks there were we didn't get paid while on active duty allot of complaining but we still did our job, I imagine the same would be for our troops today.

No need to be ashamed smee. It's an investment, nothing more. However, sometimes you read posts about how we should think about the Iraqi people more. More often than not, I give a cursory view of these posts then move on to more nonsense rumors and news. When I saw this video, it really hit home. We just have to take a step back from this craziness once and a while and realize what's important. We Americans have a life that 80% of the rest of the world could only dream of. The Iraqi's don't have much of a life at all. Haven't for many years and won't for a few years to come. That's all....just count your blessings.

I guess it does no good to say I am speechless. I did have a whole long paragraph that I originally typed out, full of hate and disgust. I decided, what good does that do? I am not being part of the solution that way....There are more productive things I can do than sit on my arse and complain on our forums about how terrible the governments of the world are. And it does not stop the lose of innocent life. I will keep praying to God, and come up with more productive ways to make change and inspire others to make change!

Most persons of faith consider choices and opportunities before them and events that affect their lives through their faith. Persons of similar faiths discuss this dynamic among themselves in an attempt to understand or to recognize an attribute or function of their faith as having been confirmed. It is obvious there are Christians who hold the Dinar as an investment. The Dinar is a currency steeped in Middle East history and that history cannot be told without considering the two main faiths in the region; Judaism and Islam. Christians and Jews share a belief in the same God and the origins of man but not of the Savior and end of history. The core of the original ‘Christian’ posts was a dialogue between Christians regarding ‘what ifs’ and ‘maybes’ in relationship to their responsibilities and understanding of Biblical prophecy; tithe, not to tithe, take care of others, be held accountable for the blessing etc. I have not yet read where any Christian has said to buy or sell nor had a dream of stacks of Dollars bowing down to the Dinar based upon Biblical interpretation. Some persons who have freely entered the conversation and challenged the Christian’s faith have been provided answers but that can hardly be called propaganda, particularly, when the discussion was primarily intended for Christian investors of the Dinar. And, some persons are just generally annoyed by anyone or thing that is Christian; they troll, they taunt and they tease sometimes to the extent of using offensive slurs such as ‘Sheeple’. I have found these types of persons usually refer to Muslim’s as ‘Rag Heads’ or ‘Camel Jockeys’ and Jews as ‘Kykes’ or ‘Money grubbers’ and yet, this intolerance and bigotry is presented without humility and with great pride and pseudo-intellectualism. Facing a wall of doctrine that invites them to examine on their own, they simply throw stones and order the person of faith to go away, be out of sight, and be silent… just like every other boring tyrant the world has known. George

--(In BLACKS-LAW---Religion means-a system of faith and worship usu.involving a belief in a supreme being and usu.containing a moral and ethical code:esp.,such a system recognized and practiced by a particular church,sect,or denomination.In construing the protections under the establishment clause and free excercise clause ,courts have interpreted the term religion quite broadly to include a wide variety of theistic and nontheistic beliefs.)---RELIGION -religious beliefs-good information - Biblical viewpoints -------------------------------All these words are good- THERE IS NO RELIGION-----What it is --is a RELATIONSHIP with a man called JESUS- If you want religion then you go get it--What GOD,s word is alll about Relationships- That my friend is the only ship that wont sink. I to grew up on that word and i wondered about and finally one day it hit me when i was reading and praying. I was also very sick. I have come thru Renal Failure Blood Clots collapsed veins and 2 stage 4 cancers in 8 years. So when your stuck in bed you read and plead. What happened was this - When reading the word GOD,s word you replace the names of the people with your own and it will not take you long to figure out that it is all about RELATIONSHIP. Thats it. When you come to understand that then you will see taht all things in this world are really for not. However GOD wants you to enjoy all He has for you in CHRIST JESUS. Prophetics is good because GOD tells it and shows you when where and how it will happen - sometimes. But He will be involved. What the word says is true. GOD is GOD and nothing will persuade me from saying otherwise. Yes that is being dogmatic but you stand for truth and the truth will set you free. We put words together to show what we know - So we use a word everyone knows and that is the word Religion. It doesnt hurt but it doenst do justice sometimes when talking about a GOD that never fails.The whols BIBLE hinges on 1(one) verse and that is JOHN 3:16-17-- For GOD so love the world that HE gave His only begotten SON that whoever believes on HIS name shall have everlasting life---- For GOD sent His SON into the world not to condem the world but that the world thru HIM might be SAVED------end of story---- everything else pales compared to this statement. Praise the name of JESUS-----Blessings Vern