Parliamentary power: Kurds did not provide a convincing justification for non-commitment to pay oil money

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Barzani agrees in principle to postpone the referendum on the condition of approval of the Kurdish parties

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MacGork: We presented Barzani with the project he wanted as an alternative to the referendum

We have presented to the president of the Kurdistan region, Massoud Barzani, the project he wants as an alternative to the referendum," said the US representative in the international coalition against Da'ash, Brett McGurk, on Thursday.

And announced at a press conference held in Erbil on the evening of September 14, 2017 on the rejection of the international coalition to hold a referendum in the Kurdistan region and lack of support system" rel="">support. "The representative of the US president in the international coalition against Daash that" will not disclose at the moment the details of that project, Barzani, "adding," We are waiting for Barzani to discuss that project with the Kurdish leaders and respond to us. "
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Barzani receives alternative draft referendum from representatives of Washington, London and the United Nations

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Barzani meets with representatives of the superpowers and the United Nations

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Barzani satisfied with it .. Disclosure of the provisions of the international initiative to postpone the Kurdish referendum

 Friday, 15 September 2017

 

 

 

 

 

A closed meeting of representatives of the United States, Britain, France, Germany and the United Nations, with the President of the region Massoud Barzani to discuss the subject of the referendum to be held on the twenty-fifth of this month, although there is preliminary approval of this proposal. During the meeting, an alternative proposal for the referendum was presented, while sources close to the president of the region confirmed that there was preliminary approval to accept the proposal, which includes new concessions for the region and resolving the differences, in return for postponing the referendum at the present time.

A brief statement to the presidency of the region, "the representatives of the great powers have submitted a proposal alternative to the referendum." He added that "the President of the region will discuss the project with the Kurdish political leadership, and will respond to him soon." Meanwhile, a leader of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, led by Massoud Barzani, said that the alternative proposal includes a multi-phase solution to the disputed areas, within Article 140 of the Constitution, the oil file, salaries of regional government employees, as well as the Kirkuk crisis, guarantees Those countries, in return for the Territory to receive new concessions did not mention, as well as support from those States for the region, in exchange for postponement of the referendum until the appropriate environment for implementation and the consensus of all parties. He stressed that "Barzani seemed satisfied with the new proposal, but asked to return to the leaders of the parties involved with him in the project."

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Parliament of Kurdistan approve the holding of the referendum and raise its

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The Kurdistan Parliament unanimously votes on holding the referendum on 25 September

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URGENT Kurdistan parliament votes to hold referendum on September 25

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ftti: In short...

1) As I stated before, It is one thing to hold a referendum, quite another.. to be acknowledged/ recognized by world bodies. History, has shown.. many have attempted secession, becoming nothing more then failed states.. Kurdistan, does not differ... Their odds, of success,...remote, at best

2) Likely, a means..., to allow Barzani, an out... a means to save face.

3) Unknown... But, their other demands... fail in comparison, to... the economic boom,  enactment of HCL will bring forth...Both, Iraq and the Kurdistan region..

 

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Deputy intends to collect signatures to issue a decision to pursue the funds of Barzani and the governor of Kirkuk

 

Editor Ammar Tariq - Saturday 16 September

 

 

 

Alsumaria News / Baghdad  announced that the Committee on Economy and Investment Parliamentary member Abdul Salam al - Maliki on Saturday, his intention to collect signatures for a resolution obliging the government to approach the embassies and international bodies banking Marmh money President of the region of Kurdistan , Massoud Barzani and the President of the Kurdistan Regional Government Nechirvan Barzani and the governor of Kirkuk article Necmettin cream, and put the hand on .  Maliki said in an interview with Alsumaria News, "We intend to collect signatures in parliament today to submit to the presidency of the Council in order to issue a binding decision of the government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to pursue the money of Massoud Barzani and Najran Barzani and Najmuddin Karim," noting that "the wording of the resolution includes an official letter from the House of Representatives to the Ministry The Foreign Ministry to approach embassies and international banking bodies to inform Iraq about the funds of the three personalities in order to get hold of it. " Maliki said that "the three personalities have large funds outside the country and these amounts represent tattered resources of the people for deals and smuggling of Iraqi oil from the province and the province of Kirkuk over the previous period," pointing out that "the draft resolution will include the central bank's demand to audit all remittances issued by Erbil And the follow-up of funds because of suspicions that some of them went to finance terrorist groups and order the country and the purchase of weapons of unknown origin and purpose. Maliki said that "the House of Representatives in front of legal obligation and moral responsibility to pass this resolution and vote to defend the rights of the Iraqi people in general and Kurdistan in particular," blaming all domestic and foreign banks "responsibility to deal with these three characters that have been imposed on Iraq and its people since 2005 until today. The Kurdistan region's relationship with the federal government is strained as a result of the determination of the Kurdistan region President Massoud Barzani, September 25, a date for the referendum of the citizens of the region on the separation from Iraq and the establishment of an independent Kurdish state, while this issue is categorically rejected by all the poles of the federal government, especially the international community, Iraqi decision to reject the referendum, and the removal of Kirkuk Governor Najmuddin Karim.

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A draft alternative to the referendum and Barzani vows to discuss with Kurdish leaders

 

 

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The Kurdish regional president Massoud Barzani received an alternative project to hold the referendum from the representatives of the United States, Britain and the United Nations, expressing his welcome to conduct a 'constructive dialogue', while stressing his intention to discuss the subject of the project with the Kurdish political leadership to announce its position 'soon'.

Barzani received a high-level delegation from the international coalition, including representatives of US President Brett McGurk, UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Iraq's ambassador to Baghdad, Douglas Sillman, and British Ambassador Frank Baker.

Barzani said, according to the statement, that 'the referendum and the proposed alternative is not my personal decision will be discussed with the Kurdish political leadership and will soon address the situation.

It is noteworthy that the issue of referendum secession of the Kurdistan region, which seeks the Kurdish leadership, is widely rejected locally, Arab and international, the fact that the Kurdish project violates the Iraqi constitution, and fuel the conflict between Kurds and Arabs, especially in what analysts and experts believe that advocates of the referendum provoke sedition will lead to civil war in the country. 

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The White House issues a statement on the referendum of Kurdistan to be held by the provincial government

 

 

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The White House press secretary's office in the United States has confirmed a statement on a referendum to be held by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG).

The source said the United States did not support the intention of the Kurdistan Regional Government to hold a referendum later this month as it has repeatedly assured the leaders of the Kurdistan Regional Government that the referendum is distracted focus on efforts to defeat Badash and stabilize the liberated areas. The holding of the referendum in the disputed areas is particularly provocative and destabilizing. The United States therefore calls on the KRG to cancel the referendum and enter into a serious and ongoing dialogue with Baghdad, a dialogue it has repeatedly indicated is ready to facilitate.

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16-09-2017 10:11 AM

Disclosure of details of the proposal of the Great Powers to postpone the referendum ??

 

 

 

The Kurdistan Democratic Party (PUK) Secretary General Mohammad Haji Mahmoud, close to Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani, revealed on Saturday the proposal of Barzani's great powers to postpone the referendum, stressing that these countries will solve the problems between the region and the center. "The United States, Britain, France and the United Nations have offered to discuss the situation in the region, including the United Nations independence referendum, in return for the Kurdish leadership postponing the referendum for two years," Mahmoud told the newspaper al-Sharq al-Awsat. He added that the US envoy to the international coalition against the urging of Brit McGuck, and the ambassadors of the United States, Britain and France and the head of the United Nations Mission in Iraq, presented this offer to Barzani yesterday, pointing out that they confirmed that if rejected, the region bears the consequences. The Kurdistan Regional Parliament voted unanimously on Friday to hold the referendum on September 25.

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The United States issues a statement on the referendum of the Kurdistan region

 

 

 

The United States issued a brief statement on the referendum on the Kurdistan region, on Saturday, renewed its lack of support for him, while warning that it distracts focus on efforts to defeat the 'Daash' and 'a provocation and destabilization'. "The United States does not support the intention of the KRG to hold a referendum later this month," the US embassy in Baghdad said in a statement received by the news agency. "The United States has repeatedly assured the leaders of the Kurdistan Regional Government that the referendum is distracting focus on efforts to defeat Daas and stabilize the liberated areas." And stressed by saying, 'represents the holding of the referendum in the disputed areas, especially a provocation and destabilization', calling on the Kurdistan Regional Government to '

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I hope there was enough pressure to get Art 140 and the HCL not only moving but an end date.  

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Iran was subjected to Barzani renewal of his mandate in exchange for waiver of the referendum or engage in wars 16:58 Last updated The time now is 05:08 PM 1509 Watch BAGHDAD (Reuters) -  Iran has vowed to head the Kurdistan region, Massoud Barzani, to renew his term as president for another four years in return for giving up the independence referendum, a senior political source said Saturday. "General Qassem Soleimani met with Barzani for two hours and suggested that he give up the referendum in exchange for persuading the other Kurdish parties to renew his mandate for another four years to come until the political and security issues are settled in the region," the source told al-Ghad Press. Carried a threatening message from Iran's Revolutionary Guard that the region could become a prisoner of war instead of flourishing and developing for years to come. " The source said that "Barzani promised to study the option, before his statement yesterday in one of the Kurdish satellite channels, which renewed his insistence on holding the referendum on the scheduled date scheduled for 25 of this. The source said that "Iran is now pushing to persuade the Kurdish blocs opposed to the referendum to remove Barzani from the presidency of the region in the event of insistence on the referendum first, and gain the opinion of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan II, to announce his waiver of the referendum, and only one day after the vote of some members of parliament Kurdistan Party of Kurdistan to hold the referendum on schedule. " The source said that "Sulaimani met today with a number of Kurdish leaders, before heading to Baghdad this evening to meet with a number of Shiite leaders and Sunnis in this regard." Some media have indicated the existence of a serious movement to submit the Iraqi government a request to parliament to dismiss the President of the region Massoud Barzani, from his post, to block the negotiations led by international parties.

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Barzani: Our dialogue with Abbadi is not for "trivial" gains and our rights are not to appoint our ministers

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Barzani: Our dialogue with Abbadi is not for "trivial" gains and our rights are not to appoint our ministers

 

16-09-2017 02:58 PM

 

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Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani said on Saturday that the government of the province will not impose on the inhabitants of the Nineveh Plain any formula other than what they want, indicating that the guarantees will be provided that determine their future if they decided to stay with the 'State of Kurdistan', as he put it. 

Barzani's remarks during his meeting with the components of the Nineveh Plain in Duhok today, where he stressed that the referendum does not mean the delineation and delineation of the border, nor does it mean imposing the will of one party on another component. He pointed out that the lack of co-existence and tolerance means that the country will face disasters and calamities. Pointing out that the referendum is a means, not an objective. We said that if there is a better alternative, it is easy, but time is too late to talk about an alternative. After the referendum, we are ready to hold serious meetings. 

Today, I have come to reform you, and you are all dear to us, and Kurdistan will not be a national state of the Kurds, but will be for all components, and no one can impose a formula on you, but you decide your fate. If you choose to stay within Kurdistan, we will provide you with all the guarantees required. 
Pointing out that the differences between Erbil and Baghdad should not be reflected on nationalities and religions, and we as Kurds and Arabs and Turkmen and Christians brothers and partners in everything, and certainly we respect the doctrines of the Kurds and Shabak brothers, 'he continued' I wish things did not reach what I have reached today, Some hide the decision to us, they want to bring us back to the Green Line, the line of contact between the Peshmerga and the Iraqi army. 

With regard to the current situation of the province of Nineveh after recovering from the organization of Dahed, Barzani reported that there was neglect of the political side and focus on the military side in Nineveh, and the agreement refers to the entry of military forces only to the province. 

As for his relationship with Abadi, Barzani stressed that "his relationship with him is good, but it is not permissible to limit the fate of the people to the relationship of two people. The dialogue is not for trivial gains. The rights of the people are not the appointment of a number of ministers. 

"We agreed that Iraq should be a democratic, federal, multi-national, multi-national, religious and doctrinal state, which we do not find today. There is a group that controls all the situations in Iraq and has violated partnership, harmony and balance. 

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America and Europe give Abadi the green light to liberate Kirkuk from the Peshmerga

 

The United States and European countries on Friday gave the green light to Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi to liberate the Kurdish province of Kirkuk from Kurdish Peshmerga forces and elements in Hawija, after Kurdish President Massoud Barzani persisted and rejected the proposal of the superpowers.

A source familiar with the Prime Minister told "News News", "The Prime Minister Haider Abadi, received a telephone call from US Secretary of State James Matisse, on Friday, during which they talked about the situation in Iraq in general, and the question of holding a referendum in the Kurdistan region In particular".

The source, who asked not to be identified, said that "the call was to give the green light by the superpowers to the slaves, using force if Barzani can not dissuade the referendum from dialogue," adding that "the military force will also include the liberation of Hawija from control Urging, and imposing the authority of the central government on the province of Kirkuk. "

Barzani had rejected a proposal made by the superpowers to the president of the Kurdistan region yesterday, in order to prevent the holding of the referendum in return for giving guarantees in the procedure after two years.

"All the parties that rejected the referendum did not give us a convincing alternative," Barzani said in a speech during a ceremony to support the referendum in the district of Amadiyah in Dohuk province, noting that "there is no alternative to the Kurdistan independence referendum and will not be postponed."

"Iraqi government officials are not satisfied with the partnership, and we will not accept to serve them," he said.

"There is no alternative to the referendum and it will not be postponed," he said.

On the Iraqi parliament's decision to reject the referendum of Kurdistan and the removal of the governor of Kirkuk, "Najmuddin Karim," Barzani said: "Do not tire yourselves .. Your decision will not reach Kurdistan."

The governor of Kirkuk, "voted on his dismissal," Necmettin Karim, that the strikes of the central government and the Iraqi parliament, the wall when he refused to take down the flag of Kurdistan from the government departments in the province.

Barzani is trying in various ways to annex Kirkuk in the province of Kurdistan, being one of the main components to support the establishment of a Kurdish state, because of the abundant oil contributes to the adjustment of the economy of the Kurds if they decided to secede really.

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Newspaper: efforts in Baghdad to reserve Barzani money ?.. What about infallible

The newspaper (the new Arab), that there is a trend in Baghdad to put the hands of the money of the President of the region Massoud Barzani and impose economic sanctions on Kurdish officials after the approval of the Kurdistan Parliament hold a referendum on .September 25.

A member of the Iraqi parliament asked not to be mentioned according to the newspaper, "to proceed with the escalation against Kurdish officials in Baghdad and the Kurdistan region," revealing that "dozens of deputies will proceed in the process of collecting signatures to dismiss President Fuad Masum, because of his position in favor of the referendum of ".separation.

He explained that "the procedures will affect all the Kurdish ministers and officials working in Baghdad, against the backdrop of their support for the separation of the Kurdistan region, and lack of concern for the unity of the country," expected to "go beyond the removal procedures, as happened with the Governor of Kirkuk, Najmuddin Karim, to the extent of .imposing economic sanctions on Kurdish leaders who lead the disengagement plan from Iraq.
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The Iraqi parliament member for the "coalition of state law," Abdul Salam al-Maliki, on Saturday, his intention to collect signatures to issue a resolution obliging the Iraqi government, by approaching embassies and international banking bodies, to find out the volume of funds of Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani, , And the governor of Kirkuk .article Necmettin Karim, and put a hand on it.

We intend to collect signatures in parliament for submission to the presidency of the Council"in order to issue a binding resolution to the government and the Foreign Ministry to pursue Massoud Barzani, Najran Barzani and Najmuddin Karim," he said in a press statement that the wording of the resolution will be in the form of an official letter issued by the Parliament .in this regard
Maliki also pointed out that "the House of Representatives, in front of a legal obligation to vote on this resolution in order to defend the rights of the Iraqi people," asserting that "the decision will include the request of the Central Bank of Iraq to audit all remittances in Erbil.
 
And conspiring against Iraq, and the purchase of weapons of unknown origin and purpose, and hold local banks responsible for dealing with the three personalities (Massoud and Najran Barzani and Najmuddin Karim) that conspired on Iraq and its people since 2005 until today, ."he says.

The Kurdistan Regional Parliament voted on Friday to hold a referendum on secession by the end of this month. Kurdish President Massoud Barzani reiterated his commitment to this date, ".saying that "the Kurds will not accept to serve the Iraqi government in Baghdad The Iraqi government in Baghdad rejects the referendum on separation in the Kurdistan .region, as rejected by Turkey and the United States and other countries The White House announced on Friday that it opposes the plans to hold a referendum in the Kurdistan region this month, saying that this impedes the efforts of the war against the organization "Da'ash" terrorist, pointing out that Washington calls on the Kurdistan Regional Government to abandon the referendum and engage in dialogue with the government in . Baghdad.

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Secretary of the Socialist Party of Kurdistan reveals the proposal of the great powers of Barzani in return for postponing the referendum

September 16, 2017

A Kurdish leader close to the President of the Kurdistan region, "Massoud Barzani," on Saturday, the proposal of the great powers of Barzani in exchange for postponement of the referendum, noting that these countries will solve the problems between the region and the center.

"The United States, Britain, France and the United Nations offered to discuss the situation in the region, including the referendum on independence in the United Nations, in exchange for the Kurdish leadership to postpone the referendum two years," said the secretary of the Kurdistan Socialist Party.

He added that "the US envoy to the international coalition against the urging of Brit McGuck, and the ambassadors of the United States, Britain, France and the head of the United Nations Mission in Iraq, presented this offer to Barzani the day before yesterday," pointing out that "they stressed that if rejected, the region bear the consequences."

"The representatives of these countries pointed out that the meeting of the United Nations will discuss the file of Iraq, including the Kurdistan region and the referendum of independence, the three countries and the United Nations should try to resolve the problems existing between the region and the federal government."

The Kurdish regional parliament voted unanimously on Friday to hold a referendum on September 25.

And renewed the President of the Kurdistan region, "Massoud Barzani," rejecting "postponement" of the referendum as a means to achieve independence and not a goal, while calling for the people to "resistance" and to go to the referendum, confirmed that "has not received" alternative to today.

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Parliamentary movement to pursue Barzani's money in foreign banks

A member of the Committee on Economy and Investment parliamentary "Abdul Salam al-Maliki," on Saturday, the start of collecting signatures to issue a resolution obliging the government to approach embassies and international banking bodies to reveal the money of the President of the Kurdistan region "Massoud Barzani" and the Prime Minister,

"We intend to collect signatures in parliament today to submit to the presidency of the Council in order to issue a binding decision of the government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to pursue the money of Massoud Barzani, Najran Barzani and Najmuddin Karim," Maliki said in an interview with the press, Official from the House of Representatives to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to approach embassies and international banking bodies to inform Iraq about the funds of the three personalities in order to put a hand on it.

He added, "Al-Maliki," that "the personalities have large funds outside the country and these amounts represent the wealth of the people rotted deals and smuggling of Iraqi oil from the province and the province of Kirkuk over the previous period," pointing out that "the draft resolution will include the central bank's demand to audit all foreign transfers issued by Arbil and follow-up money because of suspicions that some of them went to finance terrorist groups and to order the country and the purchase of weapons of unknown origin and purpose.

He continued, "The House of Representatives to the legal obligation and moral responsibility to pass this resolution and vote to defend the rights of the Iraqi people in general and Kurdistan in particular," carrying all the internal and external banks, "the responsibility to deal with these three personalities, which have been on Iraq and its people since 2005 and even Today".

The Kurdistan Regional Parliament voted in a session held yesterday after a break of two years, to approve the holding of the referendum on independence from Iraq at the deadline set for the end of September, amid intense tension between the governments of the region and the center.

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Will the Iraqi parliament pursue Barzani's money in foreign banks?

An Iraqi deputy is looking to collect signatures to issue a resolution obliging the government to pursue the funds of the President of the Kurdistan region and the head of the provincial government and the governor of Kirkuk article.

BAGHDAD - The insistence of the Kurdistan region of Iraq to hold a referendum on the separation of many of the tensions with Baghdad are escalating daily as the deadline for its completion. These tensions exceeded the limits of rejection of the Kurdish move to movements in the Iraqi parliament to pursue the money of the President of the province Massoud Barzani in foreign banks.

The member of the Committee on Economy and Investment parliamentary parliament, Abdul Salam al-Maliki, Saturday, his intention to collect signatures to issue a resolution obliging the government to approach embassies and international banking bodies to find out the funds of the President of the Kurdistan region Massoud Barzani and the provincial government President Nigervan Barzani and the governor of Kirkuk, article Necmettin Karim, and put the hand.

Maliki said in statements quoted by Iraqi newspapers "We intend to collect signatures in parliament today to submit to the presidency of the Council in order to issue a binding decision of the government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to pursue the funds of Massoud Barzani and Najran Barzani and Najmuddin Karim," noting that "the wording of the resolution includes an official letter from the House of Representatives to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs To approach embassies and international banking bodies to inform Iraq about the funds of the three personalities in order to get hold of them. "

Al-Maliki said that "the three figures have large funds outside the country and these amounts represent tattered resources of the people for transactions and smuggling of Iraqi oil from the province and the province of Kirkuk throughout the previous period," pointing out that "the draft resolution will include the central bank's demand to audit all foreign transfers issued from April And the follow-up of funds because of suspicions that some of them went to finance terrorist groups and order the country and the purchase of weapons of unknown origin and purpose.

Some observers consider that the prospect of pursuing the money of the president of the region is in fact a new attempt by Baghdad to pressure Barzani to withdraw from the referendum after the other pressures on us in which the US failed to persuade him to organize the referendum.

Some are likely to support parliament the idea of chasing money because it would be a major embarrassment to Barzani accused by some quarters, including Kurdish corruption and exploitation of its family influence to steal government funds.

The Kurdistan region's relationship with the Baghdad government is growing tense as a result of the insistence of the president of the region Massoud Barzani to hold a referendum on secession from Iraq on September 25, despite the opposition of the federal government and the international community led by Washington.

But the Kurdish region rejected all internal, regional and foreign calls to postpone or cancel the referendum.

The parliament of the autonomous region since 1991, on Friday evening almost unanimously of the deputies present, to hold a referendum on the independence of the territory rejected by Baghdad, stressing that the organization of the referendum is unconstitutional.

The referendum is widely opposed at the level of the countries of the region and the West, where fears prevail that the door to the conflict between Baghdad and the Kurdish region, which may be reflected negatively on efforts to fight the Islamic State Organization terrorist.

The referendum, scheduled for September 25, is non-binding and is centered around a survey of the residents of the three provinces of Erbil, Sulaymaniyah, Dohuk and other disputed areas such as Kirkuk and some Diyala districts, whether or not they want to be separated from Iraq.

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A Kurdish delegation will meet with Iraqi officials in Baghdad on Monday to discuss the highly controversial referendum on Kurdish independence due to take place on September 25.

It comes after the Referendum High Council, headed by the Kurdistan region's president Masoud Barzani, met in Erbil on Saturday and agreed to send a delegation to the Iraqi capital to negotiate details of the upcoming vote.

The delegation will meet with Iraqi prime minister Haider Al Abadi among other officials.

“In our meetings, we will speak frankly with Baghdad and explain that the Kurdistan region has decided to hold the referendum on independence and there is no turning back on that,” said Majid Osman, a member of the delegation representing the Kurkish region's Turkmen population.

The referendum, however, is strongly opposed by the central Iraqi government.

 

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My guess is that they intend to drag this drama out all the way to September 25th 

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 First VicePresident 

During a seminar on the legality of the referendum in Kurdistan .. Hammoud Hamoudi: insist on the referendum "provocation", and negotiate amid the threats "will not be accepted by anyone"

 September 16, 2017 23 Views

 

Considered a member of the Presidency of the House of Representatives Sheikh d. Humam Hamoudi insist on the referendum of the Kurdistan Region, a provocative move will enter the country into a tunnel that has no outlet, and that negotiation amid the threatening atmosphere and impose dictates "will not accept anyone," pointing out that "the stage of salvation from the duel has not yet ended, to go to something that also leads us to tear apart the unit Sons of the Iraqi people. "

Sheikh Hamoudi said in a statement during a scientific symposium held by the College of University hopes under the title of "referendum of the Kurdistan Region from a legal perspective," the importance of continuing dialogue and consultation with the central government in accordance with the constitutional and legal mechanisms to resolve the existing problems, noting that the issue of "referendum" This period is a "unified" decision within the constituents of the Kurdish people.

He went on d. Saying that the Kurdish referendum is not a "solution" but an "explosion" of internal Kurdish conflicts, as well as the challenges of the regional environment, adding that "our Kurdish people are required at this critical period to pay attention to the serious dangers coming."

 

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Turkey says northern Iraqi referendum an issue of national security

 

Reuters Staff

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ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said on Saturday that the planned independence referendum in northern Iraq is an issue of national security, and Turkey will take any necessary steps.

On Friday, Iraqi Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani said the vote would not be delayed, despite requests from the United States and other Western powers worried that tensions between Baghdad and Erbil would distract from the war on Islamic State militants who continue to occupy parts of Iraq and Syria.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said in an interview on Friday that Barzani’s decision not to postpone the referendum was “very wrong”.

 

Reporting by Tuvan Gumrukcu; Editing by Robin Pomeroy

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

 

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14 minutes ago, Half Crazy Runner said:

My guess is that they intend to drag this drama out all the way to September 25th 

 

I can only hope that is their intention...if they want to end it this month I am on board with that idea!!!!

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Abadi says he is prepared to intervene militarily if the Kurdistan referendum leads to violence

 

http://www.alsumaria.tv/news/2.....A%D8%A7/ar

Abadi: So we will intervene militarily to prevent the referendum

http://baghdadtoday.news/news/.....8%A7%D8%A1

Abadi threatens: ready to intervene "militarily" if the referendum of Kurdistan to chaos

http://aynaliraqnews.com/index.....id22=82319

 

 

Myself, I do not believe it will resort to that ...  Barzanis insistence of conducting the referendum, rhetoric of war (likely, to save face before the vote) is drawing these responses from Abadi... But, if by some remote chance... the referendum were to be approved by parliament.. Obviously, not recognized by any world body...Barzani, and the Kurdistan region would likely suffer the same fate as S and Iraq had in the past ... isolated from the outside world, at an accelerated pace.

A  number of articles have stated... Iran could close their borders, possibly cut their water supply.. Turkey, shut down the pipeline, their only real means of oil export, and a variety of other options... All countries, providing financial aid... would, cease immediately... Economic sanctions could be imposed against Barzani and his government, funds frozen...  Possible, sea embargo... U.S and EU have clearly stated they will cease any and all funding... Possible, sanctions against the government from the UN...

The list, goes on...These, but a few of the possible options stated in a number of articles, over the past few months ...  All this, leads to nothing more then another failed state..

With that, I believe it was his last- ditch effort to draw in the international bodies to enforce the enactment of agreements made... ie: HCL, Article 140 .. etc etc ... 

just, an opinion....

 

[Butifldrm]

o — and start an oil war

OPEC'S SECOND LARGEST OIL PRODUCER COULD POSSIBLY SPLIT INTO TWO- AND START AND OIL WAR

 

Sam Meredith | @smeredith19 

 Published 7:19 AM ET Fri, 15 Sept 2017 | Updated 14 Hours Ago

 

An oil-rich province in the north of Iraq plans to vote in a referendum on Kurdish independence later this month, prompting fears of regional conflict as tensions escalate over who owns a portion of the country's crude.

Kurdish forces have been in complete control of the province of Kirkuk — as well as other disputed areas — since the summer of 2014, when so-called Islamic State swept across parts of Iraq. In addition to being home to much of Iraq's oil, the northern part of the country forms part of Kurdistan, the unofficial but centuries-old home of the Kurdish people. The Kurds have long sought their own state and began to believe it was near their grasp after American troops overthrew Saddam Hussein's Iraqi government in 2003.

Both Iraqi government troops and Kurdish militia forces have fought to drive ISIS out from most of the country during the past two years, but now the long-running dispute between Baghdad and the Kurdish capital of Erbil over who should claim the spoils is sharpening.

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Iraqi Kurds celebrate while urging people to vote in the upcoming independence referendum in Arbil, the capital of the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq, on September 8, 2017.

The Sept. 25 referendum is vehemently opposed by Baghdad, with Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi describing the vote as "unconstitutional and illegitimate."

On Tuesday, Iraq's central government authorized the prime minister to "take all measures" to preserve the country's unity. Iraq's Kurdish leader, Massoud Barzani, rejected the notion that the vote endangered the nation's identity and vowed to press ahead with the referendum.

"In Kirkuk especially, Baghdad will not accept a scenario in which all of the territories are annexed," Ayham Kamel, director for Middle East and North Africa at consulting firm Eurasia Group, told CNBC via phone interview.

 

Regional tension could 'ignite conflict'

More than 6 million Kurds are estimated to live in Iraq — amounting to around 20 percent of the total population — with most situated in the landlocked northern region.

With the 5 million Kurds who are eligible to vote largely united by dreams of self-determination, the outcome appears in little doubt.

The Kurds have been pursuing an independent state since at least the end of World War I, when colonial powers divided up the Middle East, leaving Kurds largely in Iraq, Iran, Turkey and northeastern Syria.

Western governments, including Germany, oppose the referendum, arguing the vote will undermine the fight against ISIS and escalate tensions with Baghdad. But it does have the support of Israel, which regards the Kurds as a buffer against Iran and Arab nations. The United States also opposes the referendum, though the Kurds have been a critical ally for the U.S. going back at least to the Iraq War.

"Regional interference could serve to raise tensions and potentially ignite conflict, rather than dampen down the chances."-Michael Stephens, Research Fellow at RUSI

Opposition to the vote from Iraq's central government in Baghdad has been accentuated by its regional neighbors. Turkey, Syria and Iran are all staunchly against the referendum as they fear a potential contagion effect from their own Kurdish populations.

Michael Stephens, a research fellow at think tank the Royal United Services Institute, argued that Iraq's relationship with its neighboring countries would be complicated "enormously" in the immediate aftermath of the contested referendum.

"I think the instability of this dynamic is particularly worrying, and regional interference could serve to raise tensions and potentially ignite conflict, rather than dampen down the chances," he said.

 

'Biggest challenge to oil'

Turkish officials have described Kirkuk's decision to hold a referendum as "dangerous" and a violation of Iraq's constitution. Ankara holds close political and economic ties with the Kurdistan Regional Government and appears to have considerable leverage over the area as it remains the only major outlet for Kurdish oil exports.

The decision to hold a vote is a potential powder keg to an already long-running dispute between Baghdad and Erbil over Kurdish oil exports and revenue sharing.

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A security guard is seen at the Tawke oil refinery near the village of Zacho, in the autonomous Iraqi region of Kurdistan, on May 31, 2009.

"The relationship between Baghdad and Erbil is the biggest challenge to oil, with the Kurds using this upcoming referendum as a bargaining chip," Renad Mansour, an Iraq expert at London-based think tank Chatham House, told CNBC via phone interview.

"Do I foresee all out conflict? Probably not. The referendum is a bit of a bluff in that sense because the Kurds need the U.S. and the U.K. and a conflict would mean losing this lifeline. I wouldn't rule out skirmishes, but an all-out war is in no-one's best interests," Mansour added.

Iraq is the second largest OPEC producer and currently pumps 4.32 million barrels of oil a day, according to Iraqi Oil Minister Jabar Al-Luaibi.

However, he conceded the government does not have reliable figures for shipments from the country's Kurdish region, which reportedly accounts for around a 10th of the nation's total production.

"In the current oil price environment, the economic foundations for independence look shaky."-Torbjorn Soltvedt, Principal Analyst for MENA at Verisk Maplecroft

"Independent Kurdish oil exports are still a long way off covering what is a very large and expensive public sector. In the current oil price environment, the economic foundations for independence look shaky," Torbjorn Soltvedt, principal analyst for the Middle East and Northern Africa at risk consulting firm Verisk Maplecroft, told CNBC via email.

"It would be wrong to assume, however, that the issue of independence will be governed by economics alone. … In particular, legal challenges from Iraqi courts against independent (Kurdistan Regional Government) crude are still a significant restraint under the Kurdistan Region's current semi-autonomous status," he added.

U.S. oil giant Chevron has been operating in the Kurdistan region of Iraq since it signed an oil agreement with the semiautonomous government in 2012. Baghdad criticized the decision, suggesting any oil firm operating in the northern region of the country without the approval of the central government could be blacklisted.

A Chevron spokesperson told CNBC that it "seeks to work constructively with all stakeholders in any country in which it operates (and) with regards to any referendum, it is a decision to be made by those directly involved."

CNBC contacted several other oil companies operating in Iraq — including Norwegian gas and oil operator DNO, Austria's OMV group and the U.K.'s Gulf Keystone Petroleum company — regarding the extent to which business operations are likely be impacted by the referendum. However, each oil company either declined to comment or were not immediately available.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/15/kurdistan-referendum-iraq-could-be-about-to-split-in-two-but-its-oil-riches-may-spark-a-war.html

[Butifldrm]

Iraq could use force if Kurdish referendum leads to violence

 

 

 

 

Iraq’s Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi speaks during an interview with The Associated Press in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, Sept. 16, 2017. Al-Abadi says he is prepared to intervene militarily if the Kurdish region’s planned referendum results in violence. (Khalid Mohammed/Associated Press)

By Susannah George and Qassim Abdul-Zahra | AP September 16 at 2:09 PM

BAGHDAD — Iraq is prepared to intervene militarily if the Kurdish region’s planned independence referendum results in violence, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi told The Associated Press in an exclusive interview Saturday.

If the Iraqi population is “threatened by the use of force outside the law, then we will intervene militarily,” he said.

Iraq’s Kurdish region plans to hold the referendum on support for independence from Iraq on Sept. 25 in three governorates that make up their autonomous region, and in disputed areas controlled by Kurdish forces but which are claimed by Baghdad.

“If you challenge the constitution and if you challenge the borders of Iraq and the borders of the region, this is a public invitation to the countries in the region to violate Iraqi borders as well, which is a very dangerous escalation,” al-Abadi said.

The leaders of Iraq’s Kurdish region have said they hope the referendum will push Baghdad to come to the negotiating table and create a path for independence. However, al-Abadi said such negotiations would likely be complicated by the referendum vote.

 

“It will make it harder and more difficult,” he said, but added: “I will never close the door to negotiations. Negotiations are always possible.”

Iraq’s Kurds have come under increasing pressure to call off the vote from regional powers and the United States, a key ally, as well as Baghdad.

In a statement released late Friday night the White House called for the Kurdish region to call off the referendum “and enter into serious and sustained dialogue with Baghdad.”

“Holding the referendum in disputed areas is particularly provocative and destabilizing,” the statement read.

Tensions between Irbil and Baghdad have flared in the lead-up to the Sept. 25 vote.

Masoud Barzani, the president of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region, has repeatedly threatened violence if Iraqi military or Shiite militias attempt to move into disputed territories that are now under the control of Kurdish fighters known as Peshmerga, specifically the oil-rich city of Kirkuk.

“It’s chaotic there,” Muhammad Mahdi al-Bayati, a senior leader of Iraq’s mostly Shiite fighters known as the popular mobilization forces, said earlier this week, describing Kirkuk in the lead up to the vote.

 

Al-Bayati’s forces — sanctioned by Baghdad, but many with close ties to Iran — are deployed around Kirkuk as well as other disputed territories in Iraq’s north.

“Everyone is under pressure,” he said, explaining that he feared a rogue group of fighters could trigger larger clashes. “Anything could be the spark that burns it all down.”

Al-Abadi said he is focused on legal responses to the Kurdish referendum on independence. Earlier this week Iraq’s parliament rejected the referendum in a vote boycotted by Kurdish lawmakers.

Iraq’s Kurds have long held a dream of statehood. Brutally oppressed under Saddam Hussein, whose military in the 1980s killed at least 50,000 of them, many with chemical weapons, Iraq’s Kurds established a regional government in 1992 after the U.S. enforced a no-fly zone across the north following the Gulf War.

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After the 2003 U.S.-led invasion ousted Saddam, the region secured constitutional recognition of its autonomy, but remained part of the Iraqi state.

When asked if he would ever accept an independent Kurdistan, Al-Abadi said: “It’s not up to me, this is a constitutional” matter.

“If (Iraq’s Kurds) want to go along that road, they should work toward amending the constitution,” al-Abadi said. “In that case we have to go all the way through parliament and a referendum to the whole Iraqi people.

“For them to call for only the Kurds to vote, I think this is a hostile move toward the whole of the Iraqi population,” he said.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iraq-could-use-force-if-kurdish-referendum-leads-to-violence/2017/09/16/29d9a152-9afd-11e7-af6a-6555caaeb8dc_story.html?utm_term=.cd2284d05561

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Abadi: Kurdistan's independence referendum is 'play with fire'

September 16 2017 08:54 PM

Kurdistan's independence referendum is 'play with fire'

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi asserted on Saturday that Kurdistan authorities "play with fire" with their insistence to carry out the independence referendum.

Abadi also noted that this referendum opens the door for foreign country to undermine Iraq's sovereignty.

He added that Kurdistan does not respect Iraq's laws and constitution and have made major disputes with all Iraqi factions.

He then called on Kurdistan's leadership to revise their stance on the referendum issue, as it will endanger all Iraqi Kurds past achievements.

Kurdistan will hold an independence

 

http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/story/17017/Abadi-Kurdistan-s-independence-referendum-is-play-with-fire

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Kurdish blocs hold urgent meeting to discuss boycotting parl't sessions

September 16 2017 03:33 PM

Kurdish blocs hold emergency meeting to discuss boycotting sessions

Iraqi Kurdish blocs have held an emergency meeting at the office of the Parliament's Deputy Speaker Aram Sheikh to discuss boycotting parliamentary sessions, a parliamentary source told The Baghdad Post Saturday. 

 

He added that these blocs have not resolved yet whether to participate in the sessions or not.

 

Kurdistan will hold an independence on 25th of September that will include Kirkuk governorate.

 

http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/story/17005/Kurdish-blocs-hold-urgent-meeting-to-discuss-boycotting-parl-t-sessions