Parliamentary power: Kurds did not provide a convincing justification for non-commitment to pay oil money

[jcfrag]

They both need to get their houses in order to move forward, and they both know it. The Kurds are most likely waiting Maliki's reins to be put in place before they will  trust anything to do  Baghdad. The Nut Case just announced this past week he is looking to assassinate Abadi because of the way the elections might be handled. That loose canon has got to be dealt with in a very firm manor to let the other hard hitters know the money train is no longer running. Let them go running over to Saudi Arabia and try to milk them for some chump change. The Kurd's also know their arses aren't any cleaner then Baghdad's  when it comes to leeching off their own. Abadi needs to get back out there and motivate the country into working together with motivational speeches like " Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!" JFK,  or  "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."  Martin L King,  and  “I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the water to create many ripples.” —Mother Teresa.  He needs to move the country in a way it has never been prompted before and do it now!!!!  imho 

[Laid Back]

I beleive everything will be settled. HCL, profit sharing, Art140 and not referendum.

 

Go Iraq united

 Go HCL 

  Go art140

   Go RV

 

[ChuckFinley]

16 minutes ago, Laid Back said:

I beleive everything will be settled. HCL, profit sharing, Art140 and not referendum.

 

Go Iraq united

 Go HCL 

  Go art140

   Go RV

 

Bump that Laid Back. This is just a catalyst to get things going. 

[Scott McD]

21 minutes ago, Laid Back said:

I beleive everything will be settled. HCL, profit sharing, Art140 and not referendum.

 

Go Iraq united

 Go HCL 

  Go art140

   Go RV

 

Loving your thought process Laid Back....where do you think clearing out the final remnants of ISIS in Iraq, kicking the Iranian Militia out of Iraq and arresting Maliki and all his asset seized fits in? Before or after your list above?

 

I feel we are real close!!

 

 

[tigergorzow]

AL Secretary General visits Erbil, seeks Iraq-Kurdistan rapprochment

September 09 2017 07:26 PM

Ahmed Abul Gheit

Arab League Secretary General Ahmed Abul Gheit has arrived in Erbil coming from Baghdad in a visit that seeks more rapprochment between Iraqi central government and Kurdistan region

 

Abul Gheit arrived in Baghdad earleir on Saturday and met with PM Haider al-Abadi.

 

In Erbil, the former Egyptian diplomat is set to hold talks with senior Kurdish officials over the region's independence referendum scheduled for September 25.

 

Iraqi officials have expressed rejection of the referendum. Regional powers including Turkey and Iran also oppose the move.

 

But Kurdistan'a president Massoud Barzani said the referendum would be held regardless of Baghdad pressures.

 

http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/story/16726/AL-Secretary-General-visits-Erbil-seeks-Iraq-Kurdistan-rapprochment

[tigergorzow]

In Pictures: Thousands Rally in Erbil, Supporting Independence Referendum

 

Mohamad Dargalaye

09/09/2017 - 00:25

Photo Gallery

 

 

 

 

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/multimedia/photo-gallery/376413

[tigergorzow]

Barzani in Response to Hashd al-Shaabi: Kurds Ready to Defend Kirkuk

 

Basnews English

09/09/2017 - 10:18

Kurdistan

 

 

 

ERBIL — Kurdistan Region President Masoud Barzani has reiterated that Kirkuk is a Kurdish territory and they are ready to defend it whenever a threat is directed at the city.

President's remarks are seemingly made in response to the threats by the Shi’ite Arab militias of Hashd al-Shaabi who are attempting to increase their military presence across Kirkuk province.

Talking to BBC Persian service, Barzani also reaffirmed that the independence referendum will be held on time with no delay. He also stated that no negotiation on independence will be held with Baghdad prior to the referendum.

Kurdistan Region has set the independence vote for 25th September. Despite concerns made by the neighbouring countries over the timing of the referendum, Erbil has made it clear that there is no “turning back” on the plan.

Commenting on the possibility of a blockade of the borders by Iran and Turkey, the Kurdish president predicted that the neighbouring countries will not make such a decision due to their economic interests in trading with Kurdistan Region.

 

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/376463

[tigergorzow]

Moscow Will Assess Results of Kurdistan’s Referendum: Official

 

Basnews English

09/09/2017 - 11:48

Kurdistan

 

 

 

ERBIL — Russian deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov said on Friday that Moscow will assess the outcome of Kurdistan Region’s independence referendum after it happens.

Bogdanov said that Russia will assess the results of Kurdistan’s independence referendum slated to take place on September 25, adding that recognizing or rejecting the results is not currently on the table, according to RT news agency.

However, the Russian diplomat emphasized that his country supports the unity and safety of Iraqi territory, calling for “committing to the constitution.”

 

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/376504

[tigergorzow]

Kurdistan’s Independence Will Strengthen Stability of Turkey: HAK-PAR Leader

Basnews English

09/09/2017 - 14:11

Middle East

 

 

 

ERBIL — The Rights and Freedom Party (HAK-PAR), a Kurdish political party in Turkey emphasized that the independence of Kurdistan Region from Iraq will lead to the security in the wider region.

Refik Karakoç, the leader of HAK-PAR, said in a press conference on Saturday that the Kurdistan Region’s independence will serve as a security factor in the region.

Karakoç explained that Kurdistan Region is a strategic neighbor for Turkey and its independence will also further strengthen the stability of Turkey.

Turkey, therefore, should be the first country to recognize Kurdistan’s independence, he added.

Kurdistan Region is approaching the vote on independence which is set to take place on 25th of this month.

 

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/376550

[tigergorzow]

PUK and KIG Meet over Parliament Reactivation

 

Basnews English

09/09/2017 - 14:47

Kurdistan

 

 

 

ERBIL — The Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) met on Saturday with the Kurdistan Islamic Group (KIG) to discuss the issues pertaining to the suspended parliament of Kurdistan Region.

Following the meeting in a press conference, leading PUK member, Latif Sheikh Omer described the discussion as “fruitful”.

He told reporters that they talked about the efforts on calling the parliament back into session. “We certainly all together will reactivate the parliament,” the official said without elaborating on any concrete decisions if made.

Due to political disputes between the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and the Change Movement (Gorran) back in October 2015, parliament sessions were suspended.

Despite unconditional proposals by the KDP to reactivate the parliament, Gorran is yet to take a step forward and negotiations are ongoing.

The disputing sides are hoping to reach a consensus before the scheduled independence referendum on 25th September.

However, PUK has previously said that they may resume the parliamentary sessions without Gorran if the party continues to show reluctance to the proposed agreements.

 

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/376572

[ChuckFinley]

And the heat is on. 

[tigergorzow]

KDP and PUK to Meet, Discuss Reactivation of Parliament

 

Basnews English

09/09/2017 - 15:40

Kurdistan

 

 

 

ERBIL — The Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) are set to meet in the upcoming days for discussions over the reactivation of Kurdistan Region Parliament, and official said.

The two major parties will hold the meeting on Sunday or Monday this week, hoping to finally find the best mechanism to call the parliament back into sessions, said PUK Spokesperson Sa’di Ahmed Pira.

Concerning the Change Movement (Gorran) and its involvement in the efforts to reactivate the parliament, Pira reiterated that the party is welcome, but the other sides would make a decision if Gorran refuses to take a step forward in the process.

“We don't have time to wait any longer,” the spokesperson said.

The statement comes a day after a senior delegation from PUK met with Gorran to discuss the issue, but the discussion ended with no concrete decision at the end.

 

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/376584

[tigergorzow]

Masrour Barzani: Kurds Have Every Right to Self-determination

 

Basnews English

09/09/2017 - 15:46

Kurdistan

 

 

 

ERBIL — The Chancellor of Kurdistan Region Security Council, Masrour Barzani, has reiterated that Kurds as a nation “have every right to self-determination” and owning a country of their own.

“If you look at our history, we have been mistreated throughout history,” Barzani was quoted in an article published by the New York Times on Saturday.

The remarks are made ahead of a referendum on Kurdistan Region’s independence which is scheduled for 25th September.

Concerning the timing of the independence vote, the senior Kurdish official said, “We believe it is the right time”.

 

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/376586

[ChuckFinley]

Kurds really pushing it.  

[Laid Back]

1 hour ago, ChuckFinley said:

Bump that Laid Back. This is just a catalyst to get things going. 

CF

Lots of pressure from the Kurds over the federal government.

 

1 hour ago, Scott McD said:

Loving your thought process Laid Back....where do you think clearing out the final remnants of ISIS in Iraq, kicking the Iranian Militia out of Iraq and arresting Maliki and all his asset seized fits in? Before or after your list above?

 

I feel we are real close!!

 

 

SMB, I believe they will take the rest of the year to get everything in order

[tigergorzow]

Barzani Refuses Arab League's Request to Postpone Referendum

 

Basnews English

10/09/2017 - 01:01

Kurdistan

 

 

 

ERBIL — Meeting with the Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Abul Ghent in Erbil, Kurdistan Region President Masoud Barzani has made it clear that holding the independence referendum is a decision of the people and political parties of Kurdistan Region, and cannot be postponed by an individual.

According to a press release by Kurdistan Region Presidency, (KRP) the pair reviewed the prolonged disputes between Erbil and Baghdad, with the Kurdish president reminding his guest about Baghdad’s failure to remain committed to a genuine political partnership with Erbil.

“Mutual agreements and the constitution have been violate,” Barzani stated, noting that these violations have led the Kurdistan Region to hold an independence referendum as it is the best peaceful mean towards self-determination.

Commending the role of the Kurdish Peshmerga forces in the war against Islamic State (IS), Gheit said that the stability and strength of the Kurdistan Region is of significant importance to the Arab League.

He also requested Barzani to postpone the independence vote and give the Erbil-Baghdad negotiations another chance in hopes of finding common grounds to live together.

In response, Barzani said, “Referendum is not a personal decision to be delayed easily; but the decision of the people and political factions of Kurdistan”.

 

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/376693

[Scott McD]

10 minutes ago, Laid Back said:

CF

Lots of pressure from the Kurds over the federal government.

 

SMB, I believe they will take the rest of the year to get everything in order

 Exactly....early 2018 could be a fantastic time!!

[ChuckFinley]

They are trying to Glenn Frey them.  

Edited September 9, 2017 by ChuckFinley

[ChuckFinley]

 

[tigergorzow]

As long as Kurdistan in Iraq its problems won't be solved – official

September 09 2017 02:21 PM

As long as Kurdistan in Iraq its problems won't be solved

Kurdistan Socialist Democratic Party leader Muhammad Haji Mahmud asserted on Saturday that Kurdistan's problems won't be solved as long as it stays in Iraq.

He added that Kurdistan's officials are convinced that the region's existence in Iraq is only complicating their problems.

Mahmud further added that the referendum is a legitimate right to Kurdistan, as nobody said that region must stay in Iraq forever, noting that the country itself was formed by The Sykes-Picot Agreement.

He stressed that the referendum is the only way to unite the Kurds to solve the problems and issues that they face.

This comes as Kurdistan will carry

 

http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/story/16718/As-long-as-Kurdistan-in-Iraq-its-problems-won-t-be-solved-official

[yota691]

Abul-Gheit chooses Barzani to postpone the referendum or canceled .. The region is writing a statement in the coming hours

Readers

 

Abul-Gheit chooses Barzani to postpone the referendum or canceled .. The region is writing a statement in the coming hours

 

09-09-2017 11:21 PM

The Euphrates -

 

The Secretary-General of the League of Arab States has raised the question of postponement or cancellation of the referendum, as well as the emphasis on the unity of Iraqi territory and what was discussed with the central government in the capital Baghdad today.

 

The source, who asked not to be named, said in a statement that the Secretary-General of the League of Arab States arrived in the city of Erbil through its international airport from Baghdad, adding that the head of the Kurdistan Regional Government Office Fouad Hussein, and the Department of Public Relations Falah Mustafa were greeted Aboul Gheit at the airport . Adding that Aboul Gheit arrived at the place of meeting with the Kurdish parties in the presidency of the region specifically at (6:34) of the evening, stressing that Massoud Barzani was received by Aboul Gheit during his arrival at the presidency of the region, which is where Aboul Gheit meets with Supreme Council for Referendum.

[mr.unlikely]

On 6/22/2017 at 0:29 PM, tigergorzow said:

Islamic Scientists' Top Official Describes Voting in Referendum a Religious Obligation

 

Basnews English

22/06/2017 - 21:53

Kurdistan

 

 

 

 

ERBIL—The head of the Union of Kurdistan Islamic Scientists stated on Thursday that the Islamic scientists in the Kurdistan Region support system" rel="">support any strides towards the independence of the Kurdistan Region as a religious obligation.

Speaking to BasNews, Abdulla Saeed said voting to the referendum on independence of the Kurdistan Region from Iraq is a religious national duty for the entire people of Kurdistan.

Regarding the position of Islamic scientists and preachers to the referendum, Saeed stated they back the decision by Kurdistan Region political leadership for holding the referendum on September 25 this year and will do their best for encouraging the public to vote in the process.

"The Islamic scientists have a dynamic role in interpretation of religious terms for the public and I'm sure that in the coming three months they will play an active role by explaining the concept and importance of statehood for the citizens," Saeed added.   

  

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/kurdistan/359665

 Tell me this guy doesn't look like an Arab Bruce Springsteen?

[10 YEARS LATER]

7 hours ago, mr.unlikely said:

 Tell me this guy doesn't look like an Arab Bruce Springsteen?

 

 

THAT IS BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN ! ! !  

 

Being He's an Obama supporter and a Muslim sympathizer, it's not a stretch he would make his way over there and pass himself off as a " Scientist "

 

DAVIS for " Scientist " ! ! ! !

[10 YEARS LATER]

One more thing -  -  - My Grandma had the same kind of dish towels in her kitchen as Bar-ZANEY wears on his head. 

[yota691]

Rejection of the referendum .. Iraqi international Arab message to the region

11/9/2017 12:00 am  Baghdad / Cairo / Sabah  Under the position of Iraqi Arab international unified rejects categorically the move of the Kurdistan region of Iraq to hold a referendum  Separation. With the continued warnings launched by the federal government of this step and announced to keep the door open dialogue with the brothers in the region, a spokesman for the prime minister that «Kirkuk belongs to the federal government and can not be  annexed by Kurdistan  ».  While the decision circles in Erbil announced their intention to hold the referendum on schedule on September 25, Kurdish leaders revealed the possibility of postponing the referendum in response to the request of the Secretary General of the Arab League, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, but required "  international guarantees  ."  In the repercussions of the scene swept the hand of Mandali in the province of Diyala spontaneous demonstrations dropped the Kurdish flag from the state departments and raised the Iraqi flag over the buildings in protest against the step of the director of the district (which was frozen) Mandali inclusive within the referendum areas.