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Republican candidate’s plan would allow veterans to bring identification cards to any doctor or facility that accepts Medicare and receive immediate treatment

 

 

Associated Press in Norfolk, Virginia

 

Sunday 1 November 2015 16.40 GMT

 

 

 

 

Donald Trump on Saturday released a plan aimed at overhauling the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) and improving veterans’ healthcare and employment services.

 

The real estate billionaire and Republican presidential candidate, who has faced criticism for failing to provide policy specifics, is adjusting to the changing dynamics of a race in which several of his challengers are garnering new attention from voters and donors.

 

Under Trump’s plan, eligible veterans would be able to bring their identification cards to any private doctor or facility that accepts Medicare and receive immediate treatment. The change, he said, would help improve wait times and services by adding competition.

 

“The plan will ensure our veterans get the care they need whenever and wherever they need it,” said Trump, who previewed the plan at a rally that drew thousands to the battleship USS Wisconsin in Norfolk, Virginia, where 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney chose to announce Wisconsin Representative Paul Ryan as his vice-presidential pick.

 

The VA has been a frequent target of both Republicans and Democrats, having been plagued by scandal over long wait times for veterans seeking medical care and falsified records by VA employees to cover up such delays. Congress approved a sweeping overhaul of the department last year, but the VA continues to draw scrutiny for management and budget troubles.

 

The department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Trump’s plan, which would increase funding for treating post-traumatic stress disorder and suicide prevention and provide additional job training and placement. Trump also focused on providing better support for female veterans, including improved health services.

 

“Politicians in Washington have tried to fix the VA by holding hearings and blindly throwing money at the problem. None of it has worked,” the plan states. “It’s time we stop trusting Washington politicians to fix the problems and empower our veterans to vote with their feet.”

 

Trump’s plan did not include any details about how much it would cost to implement or how he would pay for it. He said in Virginia that the changes would cost less than the system now in place because he would stamp out waste. A campaign spokeswoman did not respond to a request for additional details.

 

Trump has made a point of criticizing the way veterans in the country are treated ever since he faced criticism early in his campaign for questioning Senator John McCain’s status as a war hero, after being a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.

 

Pete Hegseth, who heads the group Concerned Veterans for America, which criticized Trump’s comments then, said in a statement that the plan was disappointing in its lack of detail.

 

“While Donald Trump rightly proposes more healthcare choices for veterans and long-overdue accountability for bad VA employees, his ‘plan’ is painfully thin on specifics about how he would implement those principles,” Hegseth said, adding that the proposals offered “are very similar to the same old song and dance of dumping more money into the VA to build more clinics and expand VA mandates – something that has been tried repeatedly and failed.”

 

Hegseth noted that the Veterans Choice program, a centerpiece of the VA overhaul approved last year, already provides veterans access to federally paid medical care from local, non-VA doctors.

 

Veterans groups have criticized another Republican presidential contender, the retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, for proposing to eliminate the VA entirely. The campaign of the Democratic front-runner, Hillar-y Clinton, has said she intends to lay out her VA plans in November.

 

Trump has also released policy papers on immigration, gun rights and tax reform.

 

 

 

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Donald Trump gives the thumbs-up to a US veteran after his rally in front of the USS Wisconsin on Saturday in Virginia.
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and long-overdue accountability for bad VA employees> KEY.    LONG OVERDUE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL.   

 

GO TRUMP.   

 

You should learn how to open up and let everyone know how you feel... :tiphat:

 

Anyone that has had to spend a full day at the VA will agree with the absurd waste and abuse.

In Washington State they have an email system, where we can log in, then send a note to the clinic concerning any issues.

But that's as far as they have progressed.

Any treatment recommendation requires hours and hours of wasted time.

I appreciate the "holistic" approach, but a person may have to wait days, weeks or months for a procedure that needs to be done within hours.

It took them 4 years to figure out I'm diabetic, and only after it almost killed me.

Now, they just mail the supplies and I send an email with the monthly readings.

If they could just figure out how to get to the end and skip all the BS in the middle....

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and long-overdue accountability for bad VA employees> KEY.    LONG OVERDUE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL.   

 

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What he said !  :bump: I high time we take care of our vets ! No excuses just do it ! 

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You should learn how to open up and let everyone know how you feel... :tiphat:

 

Anyone that has had to spend a full day at the VA will agree with the absurd waste and abuse.

In Washington State they have an email system, where we can log in, then send a note to the clinic concerning any issues.

But that's as far as they have progressed.

Any treatment recommendation requires hours and hours of wasted time.

I appreciate the "holistic" approach, but a person may have to wait days, weeks or months for a procedure that needs to be done within hours.

It took them 4 years to figure out I'm diabetic, and only after it almost killed me.

Now, they just mail the supplies and I send an email with the monthly readings.

If they could just figure out how to get to the end and skip all the BS in the middle....

Lots of issues including accountability with the hospital staff also. My father was admitted to the VA. Problems such as having an inexperienced nurse trying a catheter for the first time and puncturing him and suffered from it till the day he died. He was in pain from the injury and would not give him any pain killer til they heard from the doctor, I told them take care of it or I would. The nurse calmly got up and gave him a shot of morfine.  He also, had pain in his knee and they thought it was a clot. They sent him home and he had a stroke that night. When we returned a nurse mentioned that they were suppose to give him blood thinners and they didn't.  Also, my dad was writing about problems he encountered during the stay, such as dropping the cotton ball to wipe his needle hole and still using it, nurse with cold treating him, ect. When he woke up the paper was gone. Of course some bad apples in the bunch, but these issues seem small but need to be addressed. 

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It took them 4 years to figure out I'm diabetic, and only after it almost killed me.

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 Sorry to hear that, DM...Wishing you the best in regard to everything


Lots of issues including accountability with the hospital staff also. My father was admitted to the VA. Problems such as having an inexperienced nurse trying a catheter for the first time and puncturing him and suffered from it till the day he died. He was in pain from the injury and would not give him any pain killer til they heard from the doctor, I told them take care of it or I would. The nurse calmly got up and gave him a shot of morfine.  He also, had pain in his knee and they thought it was a clot. They sent him home and he had a stroke that night. When we returned a nurse mentioned that they were suppose to give him blood thinners and they didn't.  Also, my dad was writing about problems he encountered during the stay, such as dropping the cotton ball to wipe his needle hole and still using it, nurse with cold treating him, ect. When he woke up the paper was gone. Of course some bad apples in the bunch, but these issues seem small but need to be addressed. 

 Sorry to hear,jg1

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This sounds like a really good plan, expensive but good.  Think about how many veterans don't even bother to go to the doctor because of the extended waits.  The medical field will have veterans coming out of its ears and that's a good thing.  Vets shouldn't have to suffer because of budget concerns.  Good job, Mr. Trump. 

 

GO RV, then BV

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and long-overdue accountability for bad VA employees> KEY.    LONG OVERDUE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL.   

 

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I see your 792 " GO TRUMP"

and raise you  800 more.  

 

Well done  jg

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You should learn how to open up and let everyone know how you feel... :tiphat:

 

Anyone that has had to spend a full day at the VA will agree with the absurd waste and abuse.

In Washington State they have an email system, where we can log in, then send a note to the clinic concerning any issues.

But that's as far as they have progressed.

Any treatment recommendation requires hours and hours of wasted time.

I appreciate the "holistic" approach, but a person may have to wait days, weeks or months for a procedure that needs to be done within hours.

It took them 4 years to figure out I'm diabetic, and only after it almost killed me.

Now, they just mail the supplies and I send an email with the monthly readings.

If they could just figure out how to get to the end and skip all the BS in the middle....

Divemaster, off topic. I was a diabetic for 15 years, I took all the meds, watched what I ate and still had high A1c numbers, I finally started eating a ketogenic diet and was able to get off all meds and keep an A1c of 6,3.  Just a little info from a insulin resistance former diabetic, 

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This sounds like a really good plan, expensive but good.  Think about how many veterans don't even bother to go to the doctor because of the extended waits.  The medical field will have veterans coming out of its ears and that's a good thing.  Vets shouldn't have to suffer because of budget concerns.  Good job, Mr. Trump. 

 

 

 

Oh no, this is twice, IN THE SAME DECADE, that I have agreed with you and even greened a post.

 

The End is truly near....

 

Oh wait!! All is NOT lost... Vets do not need to suffer from budget worries, but the VA budget must be examined often, otherwise we will continue to have runaway cost associated with incompetence, redundancy, waste, greed, and outright corruption.

 

The whole problem is these programs need to be privatized, government bureaucrats seem to fall into the same rut convicts do, they are only there to "put in their time" until their release, either into full retirement, or back into the general public.

Just like a convict waiting for parole hearings or security reductions, gov employees are only interested in what their evening commute will be, when they can take their next vacation, how many grades can they climb, and how much OT they can manage in their last year to pad their lifetime retirement "benefit".

And that's only the ones that haven't managed to pull a full disability retirement by 27 years old, then start another "career" in a different government agency for a double retirement income.

There are people today that make over $500,000 a year in retirement when they never earned more than $120,00 any year they actually "worked".

We need to institute rigorous checks and balances, performance mandates, with active third party monitoring and reporting. 

 

There are people coming back that are disfigured for life, permanently disabled, missing not just physical limbs, but struggling to assimilate back into a society with no rules, a shallow, twisted,, over sensitive sense of entitlement, and a hair trigger "circus queen" ego, fueled by their anonymity they elect themselves judge, jury, and executioner to condemn anyone they can possibly "justify" hating.

 

Far more traumatic than anything experienced during active service was the insanity of everyday life after the structured environment and support from fellow solders.

And that was a long time ago. 

In today's false pretense of political correctness the beady eye hate glaring out from certain civilians is identical to the look they were trained to notice as a warning sign of embedded insurgents.

There are already pictures of the same individuals wearing ISL gear as an active fighter, then a few months later, wearing some "I love NY" T shirt, posing as a refugee.

It was so easy back in the 70's, everyone hated you except for your mama and cops.

Guys coming back today need a lot more help learning to adjust as well as is possible.

 

Lots of issues including accountability with the hospital staff also. My father was admitted to the VA. Problems such as having an inexperienced nurse trying a catheter for the first time and puncturing him and suffered from it till the day he died. He was in pain from the injury and would not give him any pain killer til they heard from the doctor, I told them take care of it or I would. The nurse calmly got up and gave him a shot of morfine.  He also, had pain in his knee and they thought it was a clot. They sent him home and he had a stroke that night. When we returned a nurse mentioned that they were suppose to give him blood thinners and they didn't.  Also, my dad was writing about problems he encountered during the stay, such as dropping the cotton ball to wipe his needle hole and still using it, nurse with cold treating him, ect. When he woke up the paper was gone. Of course some bad apples in the bunch, but these issues seem small but need to be addressed. 

 

It's all those "small" issues that when combined make the one big issue of abject failure.

There are some genuine healers, doctors, nurses, and support, but even they are forced to "break the rules" to provide essential care.

As already mentioned, we need to get the government out of the process.

I can't think of even one program started or taken over by the feds they they haven't managed to completely screw up and corrupt.

***///

 

any illegal "immigrant" can walk into any hospital in The USA and US Taxpayers have to foot the bill.... <_<

 

Why should those criminals get this option and NOT our US MILITARY VETERANS :angry:

 

How do you do that?

Pack so much meaning into so few words.

It's a gift. Thanks for sharing.

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This sounds like a really good plan, expensive but good.  Think about how many veterans don't even bother to go to the doctor because of the extended waits.  The medical field will have veterans coming out of its ears and that's a good thing.  Vets shouldn't have to suffer because of budget concerns.  Good job, Mr. Trump. 

 

GO RV, then BV

And I have my eye on YOU... on another thread you said "Mr. Cruz" and now this? Did you have a Halloween epiphany what with all the little democrats demanding handouts? Were you overcome with joy that the Royals won the World Series last night? Did you Wake and Bake this morning? ;)

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And I have my eye on YOU... on another thread you said "Mr. Cruz" and now this? Did you have a Halloween epiphany what with all the little democrats demanding handouts? Were you overcome with joy that the Royals won the World Series last night? Did you Wake and Bake this morning? ;)

 

 

All Amercan's need to come together for our Vets. (left, right and independents)  There are a number of agencies that need to go, including the Veterans Administration.  

 

The Wounded need to get care from the main stream medical world.  They shouldn't have to wait for inferior care.  Big Government needs to be down sized. They screw most everything they touch up. 

 

I see the ads for wounded warriors and these really frost my ass.  I am thankful for what WW does, but no one should have to beg for donations so the vets in need can get the help they need.  If the Government is going to put our men in harms way, sometimes for reasons that leave me scratching my head, then they damn well better see that they are taken care of when they come home in need!

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And I have my eye on YOU... on another thread you said "Mr. Cruz" and now this? Did you have a Halloween epiphany what with all the little democrats demanding handouts? Were you overcome with joy that the Royals won the World Series last night? Did you Wake and Bake this morning? ;)

 

This is why I ride the fence.  I prefer to measure each issue on it's own merits, not be a dolt for any particular political party......it just so happens that many of my views fall to the left.  And wake and bake....seriously?  It's not legal here.......YET.   :eyebrows: 

 

GO RV, then BV

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This sounds like a really good plan, expensive but good.  Think about how many veterans don't even bother to go to the doctor because of the extended waits.  The medical field will have veterans coming out of its ears and that's a good thing.  Vets shouldn't have to suffer because of budget concerns.  Good job, Mr. Trump. 

 

GO RV, then BV

I am just wondering if it would be more expensive. I doubt it shabs, but it would be nice to see the price tag of both, the present VA waste is huge I am sure. Any time there is government involved there's corruption. 

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and long-overdue accountability for bad VA employees> KEY.    LONG OVERDUE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL.   

 

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:bump::salute:  You have to be Brain dead not to like this guy. Will the Democrat /Socialist machine disenfranchise all those military votes again this time around? I can almost bet on it, along with allowing millions of illegal alien voters!

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I am just wondering if it would be more expensive. I doubt it shabs, but it would be nice to see the price tag of both, the present VA waste is huge I am sure. Any time there is government involved there's corruption. 

 

I understand what you're saying and you may be right.  Actually I hope you're right.  I just think the number of veterans who aren't actively seeking medical care will skyrocket, which is a great thing.  I just think those numbers will outweigh the excessive VA waste.  As always, just my opinion.   :peace: 

 

GO RV, then BV

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All Amercan's need to come together for our Vets. (left, right and independents)  There are a number of agencies that need to go, including the Veterans Administration.  

 

The Wounded need to get care from the main stream medical world.  They shouldn't have to wait for inferior care.  Big Government needs to be down sized. They screw most everything they touch up. 

 

I see the ads for wounded warriors and these really frost my ass.  I am thankful for what WW does, but no one should have to beg for donations so the vets in need can get the help they need.  If the Government is going to put our men in harms way, sometimes for reasons that leave me scratching my head, then they damn well better see that they are taken care of when they come home in need!

Hi Coors! Very well said. My comment was more of a playful jab at Shabs for his recent clarity! :eyebrows:

It should go without saying that our veterans deserve nothing but the best. We all pay into SS and Medicare and are 'entitled' to those benefits. A Veteran Is someone who, at one point, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America’ for an amount of ‘up to and including their life.’ Yet the VA treats them worse than an illegal who has contributed nothing.

You're right, Trump is right and Shabs is right... it's a good plan. Our vets need a little less talk and a LOT more action!

  

This is why I ride the fence.  I prefer to measure each issue on it's own merits, not be a dolt for any particular political party......it just so happens that many of my views fall to the left.  And wake and bake....seriously?  It's not legal here.......YET.   :eyebrows: 

 

GO RV, then BV

I'm sure we agree about more than we disagree about. I give you kudos for giving Trump kudos on his plan of action to break through the government bureaucracy and get our veterans the help they need. Teasing you is easy, fun, habit-forming and legal! I call it Wake and BURN! :eyebrows: You're a pretty good flamethrower yourself! Just one of the things I like about you. :)

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Hi Coors! Very well said. My comment was more of a playful jab at Shabs for his recent clarity! :eyebrows:

You're right, Trump is right and Shabs is right... it's a good plan. Our vets need a little less talk and a LOT more action!

  I'm sure we agree about more than we disagree about. I give you kudos for giving Trump kudos on his plan of action to break through the government bureaucracy and get our veterans the help they need. Teasing you is easy, fun, habit-forming and legal! I call it Wake and BURN! :eyebrows: You're a pretty good flamethrower yourself! Just one of the things I like about you. :)

 

If you go back to the beginning of this thread and start panning down, I actually agree with Trump before you, Sooooooo.......semantics suggests you are actually agreeing with me......therefore the clarity belongs to you.  Welcome out of your haze.   :P  Simple deduction, Watson.   :eyebrows: 

 

GO RV, then BV

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Hi Coors! Very well said. My comment was more of a playful jab at Shabs for his recent clarity! :eyebrows:

It should go without saying that our veterans deserve nothing but the best. We all pay into SS and Medicare and are 'entitled' to those benefits. A Veteran Is someone who, at one point, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America’ for an amount of ‘up to and including their life.’ Yet the VA treats them worse than an illegal who has contributed nothing.

You're right, Trump is right and Shabs is right... it's a good plan. Our vets need a little less talk and a LOT more action!

  

I'm sure we agree about more than we disagree about. I give you kudos for giving Trump kudos on his plan of action to break through the government bureaucracy and get our veterans the help they need. Teasing you is easy, fun, habit-forming and legal! I call it Wake and BURN! :eyebrows: You're a pretty good flamethrower yourself! Just one of the things I like about you. :)

 

 

If you go back to the beginning of this thread and start panning down, I actually agree with Trump before you, Sooooooo.......semantics suggests you are actually agreeing with me......therefore the clarity belongs to you.  Welcome out of your haze.   :P  Simple deduction, Watson.   :eyebrows: 

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

 

OMG.. do you realize what just happened?

 

There  was a snowball fight in hell yesterday...

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