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1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Ya might wanna study into U.S. Armys section 305. 

Codenamed 

"KRAKEN"

 

U.S. Army Didn’t Seize Election Servers in Germany

By Saranac Hale Spencer

Posted on November 19, 2020


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A congressman and conservative news outlets are spreading the baseless claim that the U.S. Army seized an election software company’s server in Frankfurt, Germany, that could supposedly prove there was fraud in the 2020 election. There was no such seizure — and the company doesn’t even have a server in Frankfurt.


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Bogus claims about voter fraud in the U.S. election have gone international.

A falsehood that the U.S. Army seized a computer server in Frankfurt, Germany, has been circulating on social media. This server could supposedly prove that votes for President Donald Trump were switched in favor of President-elect Joe Biden.

But the Army has conducted no such raid, and the company supposedly involved doesn’t have offices in Frankfurt and wouldn’t have had that kind of information.

Still, the falsehood has been spread by Rep. Louie Gohmert, of Texas, and the two conservative TV news outlets recently promoted by President Donald Trump — Newsmax and One America News.

Gohmert first made the claim during a video call broadcast on Facebook on Nov. 12 entitled “Global Prayer For US Election Integrity.” The host of the call, conservative evangelical leader Jim Garlow, began by referencing at least two other election-related conspiracy theories. One is based on the idea that there is a secret supercomputer called “Hammer” that switched votes away from Trump. That’s total bunk, as we reported. The other theory claims the voting machine manufacturer Dominion was involved in switching votes. That’s not true either, although Trump has given the claim widespread attention by tweeting about it. We wrote about that, too.

Gohmert’s claim appears to be related to both of those debunked theories.

“I had information from some of our former intel people that there was extremely compelling evidence that could be gleaned from Scytl,” Gohmert said on the call, referring to the election software company. He claimed Scytl had offices in Frankfurt and “was responsible for aggregating all the information from all the [voting] machines and whatnot… that information as to how many votes were switched from Republican for Democrat would have been easily established from the information that Scytl gathered.”

But that’s not what Scytl does in the U.S. We’ll explain more on that later.

Gohmert went on to say, “It turns out, I don’t know the truth, I know that there was a German tweet in German saying that on Monday, U.S. Army forces went into Scytl and grabbed their server. There are some that believe this is the U.S. intelligence that manipulated all this in order to cover their own rear ends.”

There is no evidence to support that claim. The Army has said that it conducted no such raid, and Gohmert’s office didn’t respond to a request for more information. It’s worth noting that Gohmert didn’t include that claim in a letter he signed on Nov. 13 with eight other congressmen asking the attorney general to investigate Scytl.

Despite a lack of evidence, the suggestion that there was a raid and a seized server has appeared on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. Some of those posts also feature an electoral map shown on OAN that supposedly reflects the results on the seized server. OAN attributed the map to Manga Anantatmula, a defeated Republican congressional candidate in Virginia who didn’t respond to our request for comment. The map shows Trump winning 410 electoral votes, including California’s 55 electoral votes. Biden had a 29% lead over Trump in California as of Nov. 19, according to the secretary of state’s unofficial count.

Also, Scytl doesn’t have offices in Frankfurt. The company, which is based in Spain, has a U.S. subsidiary that handled all of its U.S. election work in 2020, according to a fact sheet it posted in response to the viral claims.

“We do not tabulate, tally or count votes in the US. We do not provide voting machines in the US. We did not provide online voting to US jurisdictions for the US elections. We do not have servers or offices in Frankfurt. The US army has not seized anything from Scytl in Barcelona, Frankfurt or anywhere else,” the fact sheet said.

The company also described the kind of work that it did conduct in the 2020 election. That work fell into four categories: visual displays of independently counted votes on election night, called election night reporting systems; electronic ballot delivery systems for overseas military voters; online training for election workers; and websites with information for voters on where and how they could vote and what kind of identification they may need to bring to the polls.

The first two categories may be the source of some of the false claims about Scytl’s role in the election.

The company explained that its election night reporting systems are online displays for vote tallies that have been counted by local election officials. The vote counting is done on equipment that’s unrelated to Scytl. Once election officials tabulate the votes, they upload the results to Scytl’s system, which then displays them online. The servers that run it are based in the U.S. “Scytl does NOT tabulate, tally or count any votes,” the company wrote.

Similarly, the electronic ballot delivery system offered by the company is an online platform tailored to the state that uses it. “Each state has different laws and regulations regarding who can request their ballot through this system, and how that ballot can be returned,” the company explained. The system does not allow online voting and it does not count votes. The servers that run it are in the U.S.

According to another release from the company, 95 of the 3,142 counties in the U.S. used its election night reporting system to display the results in their counties online and seven states used it to provide statewide results. Three states used Scytl’s electronic ballot delivery system in the 2020 election.

Scytl is also among the 25 original members of the Election Infrastructure Subsector Coordinating Council, which works with federal and state agencies to keep elections secure.

So, there’s no evidence that the U.S. Army seized a server from Scytl that would prove election fraud. In fact, both the Army and Scytl have said that’s not true.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/u-s-army-didnt-seize-election-servers-in-germany/

 

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4 minutes ago, SocalDinar said:

Last I heard the 12th amendment is still a part of our constitution. No one has been elected President. That happens on 12/14/20

 

Yes it does....In the meantime, the state certifications of the 2020 election are piling up, as are the designated electors from said states.

 

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25 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Yes it does....In the meantime, the state certifications of the 2020 election are piling up, as are the designated electors from said states.

 

GO RV, then BV

And if President Trump loses the election you can pretty much expect no riots by Republicans 

I Can't say the same for democrats .  I would expect to see riots, especially from our brainwashed youth.

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3 minutes ago, SocalDinar said:

And if President Trump loses the election you can pretty much expect no riots by Republicans 

I Can't say the same for democrats .  I would expect to see riots, especially from our brainwashed youth.

 

Well, if the number of dismissed election lawsuits by Trump and company continue to mount and the election results hold true.......and Trump somehow convinces state Republican legislatures to thwart the will of their majority state voters and place Trump electors....then yes, that would be stealing and a complete breakdown of the democratic values that separate us from the rest of the world, and thus people will probably be upset and take to the streets in protest....and we all know, rioting is a nasty byproduct of peaceful protests, compliments of lawbreaking types....Left and Right.

 

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57 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Well, if the number of dismissed election lawsuits by Trump and company continue to mount and the election results hold true.......and Trump somehow convinces state Republican legislatures to thwart the will of their majority state voters and place Trump electors....then yes, that would be stealing and a complete breakdown of the democratic values that separate us from the rest of the world, and thus people will probably be upset and take to the streets in protest....and we all know, rioting is a nasty byproduct of peaceful protests, compliments of lawbreaking types....Left and Right.

 

GO RV, then BV

I cant remember any riots caused by the right. Please refresh my memory.

And this is part of the process for our representative democracy.  Kids are just not taught civics anymore. 

They just don't know. They would have rioted if Trump had the numbers to win. No doubt

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2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

So, there’s no evidence that the U.S. Army seized a server from Scytl that would prove election fraud. In fact, both the Army and Scytl have said that’s not true.

That depends on where you get your news and who you believe. 

Your biggest problem is and always has been your inability to accept that things in this world are rapidly changing  especially political issues and how they're played out. 

Sad when you consider the ridiculous year that the Democratic Communist party and their Comrades in the Propaganda department have just given us. 

One thing is certain we're all about to find out soon. 

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15 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Your biggest problem is and always has been your inability to accept that things in this world are rapidly changing  especially political issues and how they're played out. 

 

 

I have absolutely no problem accepting that things are changing politically, that crutch lies with you and all those Donald fans who can't accept loss.....I myself, am looking quite forward to the next administration taking over.  And maybe, just maybe the Republicans will put a candidate forward in 2024 who holds the values necessary to lead our country as a whole, not as us versus them.  God willing.

 

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3 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

 

I have absolutely no problem accepting that things are changing politically, that crutch lies with you and all those Donald fans who can't accept loss.....I myself, am looking quite forward to the next administration taking over.  And maybe, just maybe the Republicans will put a candidate forward in 2024 who holds the values necessary to lead our country as a whole, not as us versus them.  God willing.

 

GO RV, then BV

You mean, Accept loss, like you and the Democratic Communist party did over the last four years? Also there is no such thing as the Republican party, only SWAMP rats awaiting their sentencing. 

 

America has been under siege for nearly 100 years. And only recently has the military leadership decided to do something about it. This election and the pursuant legal battles will be the final phase after which Trump will still be President.  After that things get  physical. As always it will be the college indoctrinated idiot's burning down cities first, but I'm sure China, Iran, or Russia [the ringleaders of this latest coup attempt] will attempt something physical also. 

After all it's their Satanic Global Reset at stake here. 

Good thing we not only have more bombs but better ones too. 

Just keep yer head in the sand Brother  you won't feel a thing. :butt-kicking:

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28 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

You mean, Accept loss, like you and the Democratic Communist party did over the last four years? Also there is no such thing as the Republican party, only SWAMP rats awaiting their sentencing. 

 

America has been under siege for nearly 100 years. And only recently has the military leadership decided to do something about it. This election and the pursuant legal battles will be the final phase after which Trump will still be President.  After that things get  physical. As always it will be the college indoctrinated idiot's burning down cities first, but I'm sure China, Iran, or Russia [the ringleaders of this latest coup attempt] will attempt something physical also. 

After all it's their Satanic Global Reset at stake here. 

Good thing we not only have more bombs but better ones too. 

Just keep yer head in the sand Brother  you won't feel a thing. :butt-kicking:

 

Yikes....reality is not going to be your friend.  :mellow:

 

GO RV, then BV

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11 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

By Christmas day this will be over, thousands will be arrested , and BOBO along with his Camel will never be heard from again. 

And you will owe me a Coke. :lmao:

 

Did we bet?....I thought it was established a while back by some Donald followers on this board that gambling is a SIN.   :o

 

  US presidential campaign: Trump's casino war | Financial Times

 

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7 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

:lmao:You mean, "A Jamaican Transvestite". That's why I can't call it Camel toe anymore. 

 

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On 12/1/2020 at 12:28 PM, Shabibilicious said:

Did we bet?

I didn't bet you but I got 1 guy for 100 bucks, another for 200 and 2 guys for 

1 big burrito monthly for a year.

 

I figure I am going to be gaining a few pounds and will have money for new jeans too. LOLOL

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11 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

:lmao:You mean, "A Jamaican Transvestite". That's why I can't call it Camel toe anymore. 

I'm no fan of her by any means. But for someone who is such a religious oriented person and moderator you say some jacked up stuff.  

 

My opinion. 

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6 hours ago, cranman said:

I'm no fan of her by any means. But for someone who is such a religious oriented person and moderator you say some jacked up stuff.  

 

My opinion. 

Actually there's  an article posted on DV that claims Harris is exactly what I just said. 

Of  course there's others that  claim Mrs. Obama is a man too. So my " comment"  tong in cheek as 

it was, was just playing off of what I read right here. 

Funny thing about you liberals though, I have NEVER once read a post of yours where you told Shabbs or Johnny boy that their  comments about Trump were "jacked up". Do you really think that your people  are going to steal an election and the rest of us are just going to sit down and shut up in awe inspiring reverence of your thieves in the white house? 

 

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44 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Actually there's  an article posted on DV that claims Harris is exactly what I just said. 

Of  course there's others that  claim Mrs. Obama is a man too. So my " comment"  tong in cheek as 

it was, was just playing off of what I read right here. 

Funny thing about you liberals though, I have NEVER once read a post of yours where you told Shabbs or Johnny boy that their  comments about Trump were "jacked up". Do you really think that your people  are going to steal an election and the rest of us are just going to sit down and shut up in awe inspiring reverence of your thieves in the white house? 

 

Are you saying I'm a liberal because I dont agree with what you said in your last post? Or because I feel sometimes what Shabs says is funny? Or because I don't jump on here and post massive amounts of articles about one side or the other say bad or good things about Trump or Biden?  A lot of what people say on here is filled  with so much emotion and anger towards each other that it makes me wonder what you/ they think are actually accomplishing by pushing each others buttons. I find it humorous at times and I read the comments to see what BS comes from both  sides.

 

A little more class from a moderator is expected  in order to set the example. But again that is my opinion.  

 

I find it amusing you think I'm a liberal though.  

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2 hours ago, cranman said:

Are you saying I'm a liberal because I dont agree with what you said in your last post? Or because I feel sometimes what Shabs says is funny? Or because I don't jump on here and post massive amounts of articles about one side or the other say bad or good things about Trump or Biden?  A lot of what people say on here is filled  with so much emotion and anger towards each other that it makes me wonder what you/ they think are actually accomplishing by pushing each others buttons. I find it humorous at times and I read the comments to see what BS comes from both  sides.

 

A little more class from a moderator is expected  in order to set the example. But again that is my opinion.  

 

I find it amusing you think I'm a liberal though.  

 

Basically, to much of Trump's devoted fan base, if people don't walk in lockstep with all things Trump, they are presumed to be Liberals, or Communists, or evil, or ingrained with evil, or possessed by evil.....or all of the above.  It's just an nonsensical emotional mechanism that Trump followers can't seem to shake or control.  As always, just my opinion.

 

For what it's worth, and though you didn't ask, I feel it's important to let you know that I've never thought of you as a Liberal....to me you're middle of the road, leaning mostly right, yet open minded....which is refreshing.

 

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47 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Basically, to much of Trump's devoted fan base, if people don't walk in lockstep with all things Trump, they are presumed to be Liberals, or Communists, or evil, or ingrained with evil, or possessed by evil.....or all of the above.  It's just an nonsensical emotional mechanism that Trump followers can't seem to shake or control.  As always, just my opinion.

 

For what it's worth, and though you didn't ask, I feel it's important to let you know that I've never thought of you as a Liberal....to me you're middle of the road, leaning mostly right, yet open minded....which is refreshing.

 

GO RV, then BV

Very refreshing!

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On 11/30/2020 at 2:55 PM, Shabibilicious said:

 

Yes it does....In the meantime, the state certifications of the 2020 election are piling up, as are the designated electors from said states.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

12-14-2020 does not determine the election.....

 

The new congress will determine the outcome of the election on Jan 6th 2021.....nothing is "official" until then....   CL

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9 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Are you proposing that congress should ignore the electoral college results?

 

GO RV, then BV

Never know what might come up in that 3 weeks of time......

 

courts....

decertifications.....rock solid evidence of corruption....so perhaps some flexibility comes into play......

 

An inauguration doesn't have to happen on Jan 20th.....

I've floated it before.....if things aren't settled the Speaker would take over as "acting President".....until everything was settled...

 

Those founders......they really were insightful... 

CL

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