Luigi1 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Kuwait to remove Iraq from C7 next week. That's great news & a positive step forward. The 5 perminent members on the UN, especially the USA & UK will have the final say so in releasing Iraq from C7. Iraq is not playing ball. Maliki again threatens to call off elections, fails to seat the rest of GOI, won't power share & is linked to many bombing throughout Iraq. Corruption is out of control. Maliki supports Iran & Assad's civil war in Syria by alowing Iran to use it's land & airspace. The Kurds are again talking of three separate republics to get around Maliki's choke hold on power. All of this could keep Iraq on C7 indefinately. The RV can still happen under C7 but the CBI says a stable & fully seated GOI must happen before the RV can take place. It looks like we can forget about a RV at the moment. Events can however turn around & move forward very quickly. Just one person's view. What's your view on all this? Go RV. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandfly Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 WE ALL GOT TO WAIT AND SEE HOW IT ALL PLAYS OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl2nyc Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 It is meaningless, as with most of the articles, events, "intel" out there... The world will not let the RV happen unless there is a stable government in place that they can trust, at least by ME standards... No one wants another Syria/Iran, or a suddenly wealthy neophyte government who will smuggle arms to them... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmosis Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Totally agree with this! It would seem that everyone BUT Iraq is ready for an RV....... It is meaningless, as with most of the articles, events, "intel" out there... The world will not let the RV happen unless there is a stable government in place that they can trust, at least by ME standards... No one wants another Syria/Iran, or a suddenly wealthy neophyte government who will smuggle arms to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moultonn Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Only been waiting 6 years now,,, what is a few more years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiuraDude Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Kuwait to remove Iraq from C7 next week. That's great news & a positive step forward. The 5 perminent members on the UN, especially the USA & UK will have the final say so in releasing Iraq from C7. Iraq is not playing ball. Maliki again threatens to call off elections, fails to seat the rest of GOI, won't power share & is linked to many bombing throughout Iraq. Corruption is out of control. Maliki supports Iran & Assad's civil war in Syria by alowing Iran to use it's land & airspace. The Kurds are again talking of three separate republics to get around Maliki's choke hold on power. All of this could keep Iraq on C7 indefinately. The RV can still happen under C7 but the CBI says a stable & fully seated GOI must happen before the RV can take place. It looks like we can forget about a RV at the moment. Events can however turn around & move forward very quickly. Just one person's view. What's your view on all this? Go RV. I agree with you Luigi. Moon and Kobler have both made comments on the civil unrest and violence occurring, and I just can't see lifting the sanctions while that stuff is going on. I posed this question to Adam in yesterday's chat but it wasn't addressed. Adam, if you are reading this, it would be much appreciated to hear your two cents on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMULS31 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Watch, the RV will get pushed back all the way until next year sometime. Iraq will never have a stable government. I would be surprised if they ever did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi1 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Watch, the RV will get pushed back all the way until next year sometime. Iraq will never have a stable government. I would be surprised if they ever did. I agree. A stable & fully seated GOI is the key to this RV. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43strat Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Stable govn't? When did they ever? And they had a $3+ rate before. Their govn't will have their problems just like our govn't. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReVbo Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Stable govn't? When did they ever? And they had a $3+ rate before. Their govn't will have their problems just like our govn't. Agreed. Kobler just said, today, completion of border maintenance work will be a major milestone and will pave the way for Iraq to get out of Ch7. No mention of stable government. The UN talks about internal security sometimes, and of course, they want it, but their main objective is to get Iraq right with the international community, and Kuwait is the only country with outstanding issues with Iraq relevant to Ch7. Let's just hope they get their borders fixed and the squatters moved by the end of the month, as scheduled. It looks like they're on schedule from everything I've seen in the past week. http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/144312-completion-of-border-maintenance-work-will-be-major-milestone-in-normalizing-iraq-kuwait-relations-kobler/#entry1137404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinarmite Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Watch, the RV will get pushed back all the way until next year sometime. Iraq will never have a stable government. I would be surprised if they ever did. 2013+ years and counting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi1 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Stable govn't? When did they ever? And they had a $3+ rate before. Their govn't will have their problems just like our govn't. Shabibi's very own words...GOI seated, stable government or no RV. This is not so much a UN C7 issue as it is a world bank Basel III complyant issue. Correct me if i am wrong. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddprint22 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Shabibi's very own words...GOI seated, stable government or no RV. This is not so much a UN C7 issue as it is a world bank Basel III complyant issue. Correct me if i am wrong. Yep - Follow the money. The one(s) with the 'big bucks' make the rules. Since when do people in government have control. Everyone answers to someone(s). . . . datz all-eye gott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldorsilver Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I think it wont rv till Maliki is GONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43strat Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I don't think anyone is wrong, I just don't believe a stable govn't is possible anywhere, its like calling shrimp jumbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosetoes Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Gosh, all these posts make me depressed. I had a friend, who gets his info from another source, send me his new info that made me feel so much better! They seem to think that things are progressing in Iraq and a RV is possible in the next couple of weeks. Who should one believe? I think I will choose to be hopeful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43strat Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Ditto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justchecking123 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 If one sees the logic of the big picture, this theory is spot on. Many want the MONAY however, and become blinded by emotion, pumpers, and their own illusiions. When Shabibi comes back, Maliki's gone and/if Allawi ascends to power... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one2one Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 they are too stupid to even care about their own money : the USD is all they need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas1 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Gosh, all these posts make me depressed. I had a friend, who gets his info from another source, send me his new info that made me feel so much better! They seem to think that things are progressing in Iraq and a RV is possible in the next couple of weeks. Who should one believe? I think I will choose to be hopeful. Well the good news is the rv is always just around the corner, and has been for years. The bad news is.......we are are on a straightaway....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judo Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Well said Texas1 +1 Well the good news is the rv is always just around the corner, and has been for years.The bad news is.......we are are on a straightaway....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinarmite Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Well the good news is the rv is always just around the corner, and has been for years. The bad news is.......we are are on a straightaway....... More like bonneville salt flats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi1 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Well said Texas1 +1 Kerry's visit to Iraq was to warn Maliki of further UN & economic sactions if he continues to fund Iran & Syria. Maliki may squander away another window of opportunity to RV & get the economy going. He is also threatening to call off elections. Iraq is not getting out of C7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLHUBER Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 So much for a 10 year plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Shabibi's very own words...GOI seated, stable government or no RV. This is not so much a UN C7 issue as it is a world bank Basel III complyant issue. Correct me if i am wrong. What is this? A doom and gloom woe is me thread? I didn't know that Shabs was still running the CBI. If one sees the logic of the big picture, this theory is spot on. Many want the MONAY however, and become blinded by emotion, pumpers, and their own illusiions. When Shabibi comes back, Maliki's gone and/if Allawi ascends to power... You better hope that this doesn't happen. If it does you will see Iraq divided into three countries and Your dinar become worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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