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* Steve Post: 1/1/11 (Where We Are…) Posted on PD Note: I have many more points to insert and will update throughout this weekend. Let’s all sit back and ask our selves why we invested in this country? I will give you some of mine, but we all have our own reasons: 1. Why my wife and I purchased the new Iraqi Dinar: Iraq will change history and successfully bring its low currency to an internationally recognized in the whole world. 2. Iraq is Making all the Right Moves: Very soon, Iraq will be a full member of the WTO. According to article 6 of WTO terms and conditions for joining, an interested country will have to ensure that its currency is fully convertible. As at March 2008, the latest news report stipulates that Iraq is nearing completion of attaining a full WTO membership status. 3. Iraq Debt and the Growth of the Dinar: The country is devoid of debt according to the Paris club agreements. Over 80% of its debt owed under the Saddam-led government has been written off. 4. Iraq Business Opportunities: My partner and I have joint partnership in a business in Iraq. 5. Foreign Investment Law and Selling of the Iraq Dinar: The Iraqi Government passed the Foreign Investment Law on August 2007. According to the law, foreigners can own businesses, shares and others, in addition to the right to freely transfer funds in and out of Iraq. 6. Hydro Carbon Law Oil Law (Oil Law) Stabilization and Dinar Revaluation: This is the most vital legislation that the Iraqi Government will pass in the term of office. The law comprehensively covers all issues having to do with revenue sharing between various groups and regions in Iraq. 7. Central Bank of Iraq and Dinar Currency: The Central Bank of Iraq, CBI, an independent agency, is not affected by the various political parties and factions in Iraq. 8. Iraqi Dinar and the Iraqi Monetary System: The monetary system put in place by the new government gives room for foreign investment, which is paramount in developing a viable economy. 9. Great investments in the Iraqi Stock Market: My wife and I have every intention of making further investments in this new market. 10. Property Prices/ Real Estate Market Dinar Revaluation: The real estate sector in Iraq is witnessing boom, mostly due to the restrictive policies of the past regime. Because of large inflow of money into the country, Iraqis are now purchasing houses in locations meant for even government officials. Just look at the many articles I posted about new housing projects in this country. 11. Regional Agreements and Iraq is Moving Forward: In an effort to foster the exportation of its oil and gas reserves through pipelines established in nearby countries, Iraq has established fruitful relationships. Read my articles below and comments. 12. Oil Production, Stabilization & Dinar Revaluation: With the firm footing of the new government in the right place, infrastructure reconstruction, such as rebuilding many of the major oil fields, is achieving the much needed progress. Meanwhile, Iraq has entered into agreements with international oil companies for the exploitation of its huge oil reserves. Just read my comprehensive 5 part Iraq Oil Series. 13. Do You Think Iraq Has Already Reached Its Economic Potential? Perhaps, the answer is easier than it appears. Can you take your mind back to your young days on earth when your parents or teachers complained that you were not attaining your natural ability to perform? This is also true for countries and economists usually in charge of considering the economic potential of countries. In a few words, economists agree that Iraq has great economic potential but will need time to attain it. 14 Do you think the value of the Iraq Dinar will remain the same? No way, and CBI confirms it: Baghdad 26 November (aknews) – the Central Bank of Iraq, Friday, the success of his plans to maintain and strengthen the dinar issued in global stable monetary regulation States. Valid explained that “the monetary value of the Iraqi dinar has risen thanks to plans and actions taken by the Central Bank of Iraq’s financial currency liberalization of routine and administrative constraints. Enough of my thoughts, now some of the actual hard core printed facts: Maliki – Investments – STEVEI January 1, 2011 This is a perfect time to look at a few news articles over the past several days that are now connecting things together very nicely. First would be the December 31 article called: Economist: delay approving the budget would reduce the incentive for private sector investment <– PD Link Recap of that article: Financial expert warned Hamad Bashir Alwan of the delay in approving the budget for the financial Szbbh to reduce the incentive for private sector investment in the country. He warned of the delay in approving the budget more than that causing a reduced incentive for the private sector to invest in the country, which generates therefore prevail has the spirit of pessimism because the investor is always looking for opportunities for profitable and safe if not fired budgets they certainly will expect that there is nothing will reduce the motivation for investment, indicating that there is another negative aspect is the low levels of income for all segments of society because the budget allocation process is a way to enter the government as that government spending is part of the application which is a special and spend a year, which in turn is divided into consumer and government spending and investment in particular. *********************************************************************************************************** Secondly would be regarding need for re-evaluation of the Iraq currency. Back in February of last year, Maliki’s quote was “The Iraqi dinar has all the reasons to grow stronger thanks to an increase in revenues and development of the economy,” Recap of that article: The Iraqi dinar’s exchange rate is suffering from low value against foreign currencies as a result of decades of wars and economic embargo that brought the local currency’s exchange rate to the rock bottom from three dinars per dollar in the late 1970s and 1980s to 3,000 dinars per dollar after the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, followed by a 13-year crippling sanctions regime. *********************************************************************************************************** Lastly, we have this new article dated December 31 where Maliki is quoted “We have no restrictions on their [foreign investors] entry. We want them,” Maliki told The Wall Street Journal. “We need speed. We need money.” <– PD Link Recap of that article: Maliki last year gave the nod to a series of oil deals aimed at boosting the country’s oil production to more than 12 million barrels of crude oil per day in less than a decade. Exports and production, however, are limited in part by a lack of infrastructure at southern ports and a slow-moving political system. Oil production has lingered at around 2.5 million barrels per day from Iraqi fields for years. Maliki said four new oil-exporting terminals off the coast of Basra, however, could push Iraq’s export capacity past the 3 million barrel mark by September, a first since the U.S.-led invasion of 2003. http://www.iraq-busi…eign-investors/ *********************************************************************************************************** Here is a recap of what we know: 1. We know that when Saddaam was in power and took the IQD basically off the market and put in place his own currency. Two things happen, one – the IMF dropped the IQD’s rate of $1.00 IQD to $3.22 USD and gave a temporary program rate of $1,170.00 IQD to $1.00 USD. Also, Iraq was dropped from the international community financially and every other way. 2. We know that Iraq is a proud nation and desperately wants to regain its position as an upstanding member of the international community once again. They have worked diligently and made great strides to accomplish this. 3. We see Iraqi dignitaries traveling around the globe having investment conferences to showcase the new Iraq and trying to draw in as much investment opportunities and business help as possible. <– PD Link 4. We have even verified that Shabibi, the head of the Central Bank of Iraq, fly over here and meet with Ben Bernanke in New York. If nothing were going to happen with the IQD and it would remain a non international currency with a worthless value, what would Ben Bernanke and Shabibi have to talk about for a complete day here in New York. My opinion, what they spoke about is how the US is going to release its Trillions of IQD’s in Foreign Currency Reserves back to Iraq over time. 5. We have seen hundreds of contracts being signed for international companies to move into Iraq for everything from Oil production to rebuilding the infrastructure. 6. We know that they have all the final steps in place to trade Iraq stock on the international market through IXS. 7. We know the issues between Iraq and Kuwait sanctions have been resolved. 8. We saw the UNSC lift all but one sanction posed against Iraq a couple of weeks ago, bringing them out of chapter 7 protection. The only thing left to completely lift chapter 7 is the RV, the promise Iraq made in the back room deals. This is being held over them as collateral for the Paris Club agreement. 9. The 2011 Draft Budget was developed around the new rate. 10. Also fact is that until they, at a minimum reinstate there currency back to the $1.00 IQD to $3.22 USD as it was before Saddaam took over. The IQD is not internationally recognized, that means no other banks outside of Iraq recognize it as legal tender. Which means it cannot be deposited into an account nor can there be any electronic funds transfers into the international community outside of Iraq. Why is that important, well we know Iraq has been working hard to develop relationships globally. As it stands right now, if Iraq buy a ship load of Toyota’s, because of the low value of the IQD, Toyota would need that same ship to carry the tons of IQD back to their mainland and then find someone to convert the IQD to their YEN, then they could bank it. Another huge problem with this is Iraq does not have enough printed IQD to work this way, nor do they want to. 11. We have Dr. Sinan al-Shibibi in news interviews and articles, on more than one occasion throughout the year telling us they are going to raise the value of their currency this year. 12. We know that Maliki wants our troops to leave. 13. We know that a couple of months ago the US sent 20,000 heavy Armor troops back to Iraq at a time when we are supposed to be winding down our occupation in Iraq. We have seen pictures where they have been putting huge concrete barricades that appear to be 12’ tall around all the banks in Iraq. 14. We believe that all of the auctions in Iraq over the last several months was to move the lower denomination bills to the Iraqi banks preparing for the RI/RV, for the Iraqi citizens. This is so they don’t have to carry a $5,000.00 bill to go and buy a loaf of bread, and how do you make change for that when you lowest bill is a $1,000.00 or a $5,000.00 IQD note. The reverse of that is they pass out the lower denomination notes but don’t RI/RV. Now you need a wheelbarrow to carry enough cash to buy that same loaf of bread… By the way I have seen pictures of these new notes, so I know they do exist. 15. We heard Maliki in his address last week, tell the GOI to revalue the IQD as soon as they can. 16. We know the 2011 budget will be passed into law very soon. 17. We know that Baker Jaber AL Zubaidi states that the Iraqi Dinar Value should be Raised. <– This is a great article with solid government links. 18. We know that the CBI Adviser stated that “We have a government surplus of 29 trillion dinars ($25B)”. 19. We know that Iraq has the oil to backup the new elevated currency. 20: CBI confirms the success of his plans to preserve the Iraqi dinar. This is one of the most power news reports I have ever seen. Related Documents: Iraq: Paris Club Debt Relief – PDF Format So with all of these facts that are verified, it only leads to one conclusion. Iraq will, at a minimum reinstate their currency, they really have no other option if they are going to deal with the international community or deal with anyone outside of their borders… The unconfirmed word is that because this is the plan to relieve the Global Financial crises we are all faced with that the UN/IMF/UNSC will wait no longer because many of the world economies cannot go another moment without this. The IMF has the power to step in and revalue the IQD on their own and they will at last resort. Remember, this isn’t just Iraq’s ballgame, it is a carefully designed plan for the global economy… Blessings to all. Steve31 points
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Good morning all! I have read alot of things on this sight but, never posted a word. Today seems like a good day to start. This post is for the sons and daughters, of the Most High, who have invested in the dinar. Why did you invest in this currency? Was it based on a word you recieved? If so then why are you upset right now? All the posts i have read today seem to be so down. Yet most of you say you are saved. (which by the way i am not questioning) Here is my point. Please remember today of all days.... Dinar is not your source!!! Anymore than your job is! God is your source!!! So if you have acted in good faith and invested in this dinar based on a word, or a peace, or a green light, so to speak, in your spirit, then what is wrong with you today? Today is a funny day as all the headlines seem to read something like this "2010's biggest scams #1 dinar" but think back.... What do you think the headlines looked like during the years Noah was building the ark? HMMM how about biggest scam of 200 BC or so "Biggest scam of the year #1 The ark and the great flood!!!" or when Elijah has to face the prophets of bahl or when Jesus himself faced the pharacies (please forgive my spelling or when Jeremiah faced that king and prophecied anyway Just a few examples....why do we curl up in a corner and decide that we must have missed God bc it didnt happen on our time schedule? Or loose all of our backbone and become giant weenies and take bait of the enemy diquised as the worlds bad report? I have come today to exhort you!! Stand strong be of good cheer do not give up 5 minutes before your breakthrough! Trust the Lord and not the report of the world! We are the conduits for Gods Glory to come to yhe world. Stand and believe! Push back against the lies of the enemy! When God does this thing with the dinar it will be to his glory and no mans! When he opens this door in HIS TIME no man will be able to close it! Doesnt the word say to trust him and see that He is good! Well be of good cheer today and all who have ears to hear I hope you are blessed and encouraged by this post today Happy New Year To All Heathery23 points
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I talk to two of my sources on a regular basis. They are on my skype list and yes they are from iraq. They came in contact to me an year ago when I entered the iraqi dinar investment and since then taking their advise on a monthly basis as to how the situation is abt this investment. They have been telling me that their economy needs time up until 4 months back but last month when I asked them abt the dinar. They told me suddenly that a decision is under a review about the iraqi dinar with the new government and they are now looking to take a decision on the currency pretty soon. They're also saying that past few days there has been drastic changes in the construction, railway development, road ways many other things. Although he thinks that the rate maybe 1:1 for an exchange and on par with the USD, the rate going to 1:3 in favor of USD seems slim, but nothing can be said as the decision is impending with the government he feels. Just relaying the information he told me, no bashings please. Enjoy the info as I just wanted to pass to you guys!! Thank you, Michel!! :)17 points
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Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it. In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some. When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender. There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat—it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly. Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable. When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... And that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.. By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.) Any man or woman who may be asked in this century what they did to make life worthwhile in their lifetime....can respond with a great deal of pride and satisfaction, "I served a career in the United States Navy."16 points
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I have included a screen shot to make this official.. Shown BELOW. The CBI Website first posted Rate of 2011 at 1170.000 and 1168.000.... This means it is OFFICIAL... That: There was NO RV in the IQD in 2010.. and that is a fact! Which means with all the GURU information anyone could gather over the years of time that stated that the Paris Debt Reduction Program is null and void without an RV in 2010.......... Then I guess it is null and void and the FULL DEBT MUST BE PAID now that the RV officially did not happen in the designated time frame. And for all the experts that said the CBI would be closed today..... Apparently you were wrong as well... Because obviously they never update their indicative rate when the bank is closed.... IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.... By the way, today was never listed as an official holiday or that the CBI would be closed today... once again it was a rumor that went VIRAL.... Quickly like all the other wrong rumors around the web... So all the experts acting in the position of authority that keep spilling forth facts that continue to be proven wrong, please either admit your errors and give us your excuses why you were wrong... or start putting your new info and prerequisites out that the masses can then begin relying on for the year of 2011. These NEW prerequisites keep popping up daily lately.... We would all love to see the NEW info that everyone is to rely on for the next year while we all wait for the RV in 2011 (hopefully). Unbelievable misinformation presented constantly and it does wear on peoples nerves over time.... IMO... And if I am wrong..... please, some GURU, please, please tell me why I am so off the mark... So I won't have to think on my own anymore. I can see why the new advertisement for new gurus was posted recently.. http://toledo.craigs...2134436191.html I hope to see some MORE qualified GURUs that come to the forefront in 2011 that bring More factual information that can assist all of us less knowledgeable investors.... while we patiently wait. Thanks to those researchers on the WEB that DO not put forth anything but facts that can be backed up with GOOD hard DATA and avoid the Dates and Rates stuff (ie SCOOTER).. We appreciate you keeping it real.15 points
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Mailman Chat: 1/1/11 Mailman chat 8:38 pm est 1/1/11 mailman17 says to (20:38:00): I WOULD LIKE THE FLOOR FOR A FEW MINUTES TO DISCUSS 2 THINGS THAT REALLY BOTHERED ME THE LAST FEW DAYS AND BY THE WAY…I WISH ALL OF YOU A HAPPY NEW YEAR ALSO TY 2 THINGS HAVE BOTHERED ME A LOT IN THE LAST FEW DAYS 1 OF THEM I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER BUT THE OTHER WE DO THE ONE WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IS THE RV WE TRY OUR BEST HERE TO GET INFO..REAL INFO…LOOK AT IT…AND GIVE YOU GUYS A WINDOW AS WHERE WE STAND WE ALSO HAVE VERY GOOD INTEL THE BEST ACTUALLY BUT I DONT HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS IRAQ ARE WE SIDESTEPPED A BIT? YES AM I DISGRUNTLED..YES DO I KNOW ITS AROUND THE CORNER..YOU BET YOUR ASS I DO UNFORESEEN STALLS…ARE PART OF THE GAME WE MUST ALL SUCK IT UP…AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD…THIS WILL END AND SOON SECOND THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS NOT SO MUCH THE RV NOT HAPPENING WHEN WE THOUGHT IT WOULD…BUT THE ACTIONS OF MEMBERS ON HERE TOWARDS MED ANYONE WANNA THROW DIRT…IM HERE I AM IN THIS AS MUCH AS MED IS….I KNOW MED VERY WELL AND I TESTIFY 100% TO HIS INTEGRITY REGARDING THIS INVESTMENT AND YOU ALL AS MEMBERS TO ALL THE MODS HERE AND ADMINS…BASHING IS NO LONGER AN OPTION I WANT ANYONE WITH A NEGATIVE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THIS INVESTMENT OR ANYONE REPRESENTING THIS SITE WHETHER ITS MED…OR YOU GONE NO QUESTIONS…GET RID OF THEM THE THING PEOPLE DONT REALIZE IS THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS ITS GOTTA BE THE HARDEST THING TO FIGURE OUT WE TRY…AND WE ARE THE BEST OUT THERE BUT SOMETIMES EVEN WE ARE THROW FOR A LOOP AS TO WHY THINGS DONT PAN OUT THE WAY WE THINK THEY WILL SO WHAT… SUCK IT UP THATS PART OF BEING A DINAR INVESTOR NO ONE EVER SAID THIS WAS EASY AND TRUST ME WHEN I SAY…MED, MYSELF, LANACHY BF AND THE OTHERS ARE MORE FRUSTRATED THAN YOU CAUSE WE GIVE YOU GUYS SIGHT TO THIS INVESTMENT NOT RUMORS FACTS SO WHAT IF IT DIDNT PLAY OUT DOESNT MEAN IT WONT DOESNT MEAN WE WERE THAT OFF WITH OUR INTEL I PERSONALLY THINK WE HAVE THE BEST THINKERS OF ANY SITE SO…IF YOUR DISCOURAGED..LOME EVEN ME SOMETIMES…VENT IT ELSWHERE DONT BRING IT HERE AND CERTAINLY RESPECT TO EVERYONE HERE INCLUDING ADMINS AND SITE ADMINS IS DESERVED… NOW I HAVE BEWN WATCHING THINGS QUITE CLOSELY ON THIS JUST CAUSE YOU DONT SEE ME TYPE…DOESNT MEAN I AINT WATCHING THE SMALL DENOMS ARE A PART…AND YES THE OTHER MINISTRIES ARE ANOTHER BUT THE FACT REMAINS BIDEN AND THE UN WOULD NOT HAVE LIFTED THOSE TRADING RESTRICTIONS IN DEC IF IRAQ WASNT ON THE CUSP OF AN RV KEEP THAT IN MIND NEXT TIME YOU GET DEJECTED FOLLOW THE NEWS…IT CHANGES HOURLY IN THIS OUR TIMES COMING…BE PATIENT…AND JUST CHILL THE HELL OUT15 points
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I know that you have seen alot on here but you don't always have to be a sarcastic jerk about it. Every one of your posts come off sarcastic and know-it-all so of course people just don't like that.15 points
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The biggest news of the day that I see ... is that there is NO Currency Auction. While I have quickly searched the site ... I don't see a holiday, a bank holiday, or a bank maintenance day. What I do see is that the site has been caught up to Dec 30th AND the pdf file has been caught up to TODAY and it is a "NO AUCTION" day ... and yes, there is supposed to be! The next scheduled holiday is January 6th ... Army day Obviously oil and gold markets aren't open at this hour but markets closed Friday at: Spot Oil~$92.35 ... an EOY rally not sell off Spot Gold $1421.60 ... a near record Zeroes ... well there wasn't a sale Friday, Sat, Sunday so we are holding Yesterday a couple of folks weren't happy with me for posting something funny in rumors ... the point was that as far as I'm concerned there was little (very little) to talk about ... at least in the morning when I posted it. For you conspiracy theorists ... here's your setup ... 72hrs of NO AUCTIONS ... no apparent reason for a NO AUCTION ... the Iraqis overdue to RI/RV (understatement of the year ... mark that down on your calendars), a chat post this morning of Okie reporting that the White House was involved in the delay ... I read it quickly but the jist of it is that the Bush tax cuts contained something regarding a $45K-$49K income cap ... but he lost me at "sheepherder" ... the Bush tax cuts? You mean the one prior to 9/11 ... if it contains something about the IQD or a foreign currency increasing ... well that is a HUGE revelation and tells us something of a real conspiracy nature ... but ... my better guess is what I've been questioning for some time now ... to enable 2011 tax law enacted with Obamacare to kick in. Anyway, it's a conspiracy theorist banquet this morning ... next to no info and a Zantac setup! ... you are on your own here. I'll pop in after church if I see something. Peace to all Doc3115 points
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hi all, to the man that said i was totally off and welcome to earth... READ SLOWER next time. I was saying i believe in the dinar just as Noah believed in the ark! hello i live on the earth and if you put as much energy into reading as you do complaining and being rude then you too would have understood what you were reading and that we are on the same page! Read more:13 points
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"WE ALSO HAVE VERY GOOD INTEL THE BEST ACTUALLY" Wait a min. Isn't this the same guy who had all the "intel" sayin he had it confirmed from his source that Maliki had ran for his life to London to avoid the rope and the UN was sending Peace Keeping forces to take over all of the security in Iraq? Not bashing, Just sayin10 points
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The Rollercoaster ride by Marcus Curtis on January 1, 2011 http://iraqcurrencyw...ercoaster-ride/ A friend of mine has invested heavily in the Iraqi dinar. He says that when this thing RV’s he is going to buy his very own amusement park. I told him he should build a roller coaster and call it the dinar Rollercoaster ride. Each car in the coaster could be in the shape of a 25,000 note, or a 10,000 note. I said this because he loves to ride this rollercoaster called The any minute RV theory. This is how it works. To enter the ride you must first buy a ticket in the form of dinar. So your minimum purchase is 100,000 dinar. Now you surf the internet and the many forums looking for information. You happen upon the many post by gurus. There is TK saying a day and a rate. You begin to calculate this new-found wealth in your head. You soon realize that there is no way you bought enough dinar to pay all debts and do the things you want to do. So in your haste you buy another 250,000. It is important to get this before the RV, and before the rate changes. You begin to imagine what you could do with your new-found wealth. Your excitement mounts as feelings of euphoria overcome you. You begin to imagine just what you will say to your boss and anyone at work that has abused you, or made fun of you. You are on top of the world. No one at work can explain your new great attitude. The day of the RV comes. You find a post by TK that says It is done, it happened! You check Forex and the CBI website, but there is no sign of an RV. You frantically look in the forums. Someone posts that the RV happened in country, and the ripple effect will soon be here. You hold out hope for a few more hours. Then you happen to come across a lop post with convincing information. Your whole world has just collapsed, and you now find yourself doubtful. As a new work week approaches you get even more depressed. Monday you go to work and you’re in a pretty bad mood. You feel taken and defeated. What are you going to do with this dinar you blew all your money on? The next day you read through the forums. The thought comes maybe I can find a sucker in here to buy this worthless stuff from me. You read a post that debunks everything about the lop, and now you realize that the lop theory is just a bunch of BS. This time you come across information from a different guru of a new rate and a new date. Since the lop has been debunked, you can now see the potential. You rationalize that this could possibly happen. Then you find the news article that confirms to you the RV is soon. OK so you were off by just a little. Once again you begin to imagine what you will spend your new-found wealth on, and how you will treat your boss. Feelings of excitement overwhelm you. You can’t help your self. You buy more dinar just to make sure you have enough after taxes. The big day of the RV comes and goes. TK announces that it is done. Forex and CBI confirms your worst fears. Once again it is Monday morning. It is a new day, but all the redenomination articles you read on Sunday still have you pretty upset. Now you even bought more of this stuff!! By this time, all your coworkers have classified you as moody. The boss will reflect this in his annual review of your performance. On Tuesday you read news articles that now say there will be no lop or redenomination. On Wednesday Someone presents new-found information for an RV real soon. You find similar posts in other forums. The gurus jump on this and set a date. You now begin to get excited once again. Great feelings of financial freedom come. You read in the forums that you can only lock in a rate if you purchased a million dinars. You also read that the rate will come out high and go down. Now you buy even more dinars because you want to get the best return on this investment. You want to lock in a rate. It seems that now the only posts you click on to read in the forums talk about when and how much, as this now becomes your only concern. Now you’re in for over a thousand US dollars. The excitement mounts. The day of the RV comes and goes, but there is no RV. Monday morning you go into work. A coworker has placed an ad on your desk for a trial sample of Prozac with a doctor’s prescription. Rumors of you being bipolar race through the office by the water cooler. They are just trying to be helpful. As the week goes on you look forward to the new RV date. You keep telling yourself this is going to happen this year! This has got to happen! It is going to happen soon! I just know it! All rational is thrown out the window. You begin to purchase even more dinar as the ride increases in speed. Before long, what started out as only 100,000 dinar now turns into millions. Now you anxiously await every new date that surfaces. By this time you made every religious coworkers prayer list in the special unspoken section. The company added a mental health section to it’s health benefits and your boss urges you to take advantage of it! Does this sound familiar? If it does you made my prayer list too. Why ride this rollercoaster Ride? Don’t get me wrong. I believe the dinar will RV, but I think it is better for your health if you focus on the facts instead of speculation. What you really need is a quest for truth. You must be honest with yourself and consider every aspect of this investment. Where ever the truth leads it leads. Don’t try to influence it!! Avoid speculation and avoid rumors! In your case “take this only as rumor” is like saying to an alcoholic have one drink, but don’t drink anymore. You need to focus on the parts of this investment that can be verified, and not be caught up with every wind of doctrine that blows your way tossing you about like a ship on the ocean. So how does one get off the roller coaster ride? I am writing this towards the end of the best rollercoaster ride. It is January 1st new years day 2011. The RV was supposed to happen by now and we were all suppose to be rich. The Paris club agreement along with other Intel suggested the RV would happen in 2010. I still believe in this investment. That has not changed. I have said this time and time again. NO ONE KNOWS THE RATE OR THE DATE! Everything involving this has been pure rumor from day one. So in part two of the roller coaster ride. I will address how to get off the roller coaster and how to be grounded in this investment. Don’t let your emotions rule you!10 points
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Here is something that has been much needed and will right alot of wrongs being done to citizens by our goverment ! Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply *equally* to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply *equally* to the citizens of the United States .."10 points
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since this is the opinions, perspectives and your two cents forum i will post my two cents now.... As for the job i have in which i make money, i was told by God personally to be here. I had another opportunity to go somewhere else but God told me if i were to go there i would be relying on the hourly wage instead of staying where i was, which is a commission sales job, and relying on HIM. Ive been here for a year and a half now. In December i found out about dinar through my Pastor. He made very much aware the fact that this is a risk and it was to our own discretion of the amount we invested. On that day my wife put our last $20 in the offering because she felt God had told her to. This is where FAITH is so important. When i got home i had a phone call that someone was interested in my 1995 Nissan truck that wasn't running and hadn't in over a year. They came and looked at the truck and made me an offer to take it right on the spot. It was an offer i didn't refuse. We had enough money to invest into the dinar and get through to the next payday. So, yes in a way God did create this venture for Me personally and it may be the same way for several other people out there. There is a reason for everything happening and its not just consequences!! Thanks, cenlalsufan10 points
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Ok people......lets think realistic for a moment....and logically......we know for years they have been wanting to bring the dinar closer to on par with the USD.....this has been their own words for YEARS now....we know from all the articles and documents we have been reading for the longest that this has been their plan.....its just taken a long time to achieve this....please forgive me for any grammar mistakes because Ive had my fair share of drinks tonight celebrating the new year Im gonna apologize for that now ahead of time hahaha....ok back to the subject on hand....Shabs said it himself about the new budget, that it includes new policies and reforms to raise the value of the dinar in 2011.....they can do this now.....they just need to prove themselves and let the numbers do the talking.....let their economy do the walking.....they just need to get to work...plain and simple..... I have to say that alot of people have been banking on this going down for some time now....because of the hardships that have been placed in front of them....we are all in the same boat....so we need to stick together.....and I feel that we all should take a stand now....here and NOW.....people here at DV seem to be some of the smartest in the bunch because we think for ourselves....we dont take everything as fact and we question everything until we can prove it....and that needs to continue.....but now I ask all of you...all of us, to stop putting so much faith into the nonsensical BS that comes across this forum from these retards that swear they know whats happening because of special contacts they have or intel that they swear by......cause we can see at this point that it gets us NO WHERE.....everyone here is smart enough to think for ourselves....to take whats put in front of us and try to put the pieces together..... Lets stick together on this....we are a team remember....all here for the same reason.....we all have bought dinar so remember that when responding to eachother.....Iraq has made so much progress in the past couple months, more then probly any other time since the invasion to move them forward and put them that much closer to joining the international market as they once were.....but we have to be patient....hell it took them 8-9 months just to put a govt together....so we must remind ourselves they are slow....slow as f*&k to get anything accomplished.....but they do get it done sooner or later.....there isent much of anything left holding them back from raising the value of the dinar....I think its now just a matter of them getting to work and getting their GDP up to what they have projected and then the dinar shall be free to appreciate over the next couple of years.....I strongly feel that this is it....this is the year they can prove to the rest of the world that they can do the damn thing....that they can put their money where their mouth is.....we all know they can....the people are suffering and are tired of the delays....they also want their wealth restored.... We need to make it a point to stop listening to the garbage rumors and BS talk coming from these other gurus...so many of us are giving up hope because they speak of all these reasons why it must happen every monday and nothing ever happens....we need to stay grounded and level headed and it will make the ride easier to handle....(hold on, time for another shot)......... There really isent much research left to be done....Scooter has brought so much to the table the past year that I think we know everything we need to....we are in waiting mode to be blunt.....just waiting for everything to be put to action.....Iraq WILL raise the value of the dinar....thats not the question....the question is how.....because although you dont wanna hear this its a very real possibility that they could LOP and then raise the value....and thats mostly because of the amount of currency in circulation that they claim...if those numbers are correct they cannot raise the value unless they reduce the money supply (by lopping)..... ok back to business....lets all stick together this year...closer then ever to find the truth....we are all tired of the crap passed as fact that has no factual basis...so lets work together to debunk what we can to seperate whats real and whats not....it will make it easier to figure out when this could go down......forget these clowns that are posting chats everyday and making CC's full of "information" that NEVER pans out....it will be more beneficial to us all here.....if you like living in the clouds then this site is probly not for you..... The dinar WILL appreciate in value this year.....or at least start.....thats all we need to know......thats all we need to focus on......and lets be easier on the newbies coming in and posting questions.....we dont want the reputation of being mean ass people that dont look out for our fellow investors....if you can answer their questions then do so respectfully....if you cant, then let them know and maybe someone else can help them out ya dig?!? Ok you are probly tired of hearing me talk now.... but im drunk and thought that we could all use these words of encouragement....dont give up now....if you were told this was an overnight thing then you were lied too.....something like this takes time....plain and simple....regardless of what happens we will all make a profit and dont forget that......but I cannot see the dinar going into 2012 without having appreciated at all even just a little.....so lets just be patient and let it come to us ya dig!?!?!? STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!!!9 points
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Hello, I would like to share some reading material with you all. The type of things I thought I would read when I joined. My name is Paul, and I am a Forex trader. I love currencies of all types and how they each trade for their own given values. The Iraqi Dinar "IQD" Obviously has a value of more than 1170 IQD per 1 USD. But what is it? Well let's see. *First: What kind of country is Iraq? A country that exports it's reserves, Industrial say 5%, ( Oil, Gas ) mining say 95% and imports 90% that it consumes. How does this add up? Well it means that Iraq is a wealthy country that can support a healthy currency. When you pair a currency with another currency many fluctuations happen for several reasons but the over all movement of the pair is from the interest rates that each currency holds ie... if a currency is under valued and holds a low interest rate because the country has a need to export goods at a great price in order to continue to be strong. If a currency is over valued and has a high interest rate it is because the country has too high of inflation from imports due to it being rich. *Second: How does Iraqs' interest rate pair against other currencies? [post=http://www.cbi.iq/index.php?pid=Home]http://www.cbi.iq/index.php?pid=Home[/post] IQD interest rate is at 6% this may not fair well with going up against the New Zealand KIWI NZD but it will do fine with Japans' JPY or the USD. *Third: Gross Domestic Product ( GDP ) If Iraq can reach 12,500,000BBL of oil per day along with natural gas ( NPG ) and an industrial sector. They would achieve 1/3 GDP of the United States. *Forth and final: with the population being 10 times that of Kuwait and the forecast of GDP being 10 times that of Kuwait also then one would believe that the Iraq dinar would be that of the Kuwaiti Dinar in 10 years. The time frame that Iraq has given to reach this 12.5 million barrel a day production. So ready for the answer??? .74 USD per IQD but keep in mind speculation and you will see that the Iraqi's have already accounted for what I have not so believe it when they posted [post=http://www.cbi.iq/index.php?pid=Home]http://www.mop.gov.iq/mop/index.jsp?sid=1&id=308&pid=295&lng=en[/post] 1.134 Iraqi dinar per 1USD is the actual value.8 points
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It is good to hear from Steve1 again. I have never heard him state anything that wasn't true and he IMO has never pomped anything. Just the facts man. Thanks for the post, here's your sign +++8 points
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It's a done deal and will be announce by next Tuesday. And rate is $3.89! It's party time believers!!!! Get drunk and celebrate!8 points
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SteveI put a lot of hard work into this, and I for one hugely appreciated it. I hope DV members do, too. Maynard8 points
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Wow again with the Beleif bashing . I agree with a few statements .God did not make descisions for any one.They had to make their own choices weather led to the well of knowledge or they stumbbled onto it. How ever bashing others for their beleif system is wrong! I frankly get tired of Atheistic veiw point's that are predominatly negative or boasting about ones knowledge on the subject as if they were A god. I meditate on things in prayer quite often .Their have been plenty of times when something should be in place and for some reason ive felt a strong gut check against doing it only to later be glad because of the out come.The same is true in the reverse .Ive not wanted to get involved with some thing but felt drawn to do so.But a descision will always have to be made.Ignore it cennalfulsan. Some will never know god ,some will hate those who follow after him.Some will deny his existance until death .These are men with a seared concience.Their fate is as they have stated in their own hands8 points
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NIGHTHK11 CHAT 1/1/11 1PM est Nighthk11 says to (12:49:35): Good Day DS- As it would appear- our asperations with Iraq have been dashed again- But after reading and some acessment it would seem that once again it boils down to a number of issues that were overlooked concerning the RV I believe that they were NOT ready to follow thru because for one their gov’t is not fully formed- and also not declared Critical soverign ministries are NOT filled- Security and Ministery Of Interior are vital ministries that make up the cabinet IMF has indicated that “Security” must be in place for the RV- the additional smaller denoms are really not that much of a problem as either US/UK/UN/IMF could very easly garuntee the payment to De La Rue So we were looking for something else other that Shibibi waffelling on the RV- We believe it is Non- Formation of the complete government while very frustrating for us- we had to accept the fact that this is really about Iraq and not us getting rich- so they will do things in their time and not ours tew23 says to (12:57:08): don’t we really have until sun\mon to see if dec 31 was a bust or not? frudie says to (12:57:18): hi nighthk11 and ds! I do agree that this is not about us, but I thought the IMF was wanting this done to help out the EU and some of those countries? Nighthk11 says to (12:57:20): After some heated discussion with some very knowledgeable people on middle eastern affairs…..I asked about the Non-Paris club countries and a deadline on 1 Jan concerning a tradeable currency on the market Would those countries demand payment- I was told NO- because the UN is driving the train to insure that Iraq reaches it’s trade potential and is brought back into the world body mawbell says to (12:59:57): Do the changing of the smart cards come into play? Or has that been postpned too? Nighthk11 says to (13:01:22): we talked about several things that could hold up the RV- and kept comming back to Gov’t Formation- I argued that the gov’t is formed as parliment has approved Maliki’s cabinet- I was reminded about critical soverign ministries and that there has been “No Formal Declaration of the New Gov’t- there fore Gov’t not fully formed until an official announcement That would indicate that Shibibi is correct in his actions- If true bummer for us but still on track for what we desire frudie says to (13:02:45): so the question is how long is the UN willing to wait for the new gov to be official? surfsidedan says to (13:03:16): Is there a time line for Maliki to have a complete government Nighthk11 says to (13:03:39): Many- and I mean many knowledgeable people have tried to crack this nut and have been correct in their accessment and wrong also- but it’s ok- because they all tried Frudie- UN is on the ground and have been attending all their meetings along with the US assisting them- Maliki’s time here is not an issue as the Parliment has approved his cabinet- The ministries which are awaiting ministers have proxy’s filling them at this moment- That is how he got around the deadline- and it’s legal- that is why parliment “Approved his cabinet” frudie says to (13:07:38): Thank you N11 for the explanation and sharing today! Nighthk11 says to (13:08:03): Now Med had three sources from different places to confirm information he was given- Monies are or will be leaving the UK shortly for iraq from upper heyford- lakenheath RAF fields- so that is NOT a rumor- these flights contain “Lower denoms” Ed Abbott says to (13:08:35): nightk11 do you think they will get all of the gov set this year or are the proxy’s going to stay in place tdk says to (13:09:46): so we need to see gov. formed and offically stated and proxy positions filled with ministers and budget read before we are closer to rv? Nighthk11 says to (13:10:20): There is great concern at this moment within Iraq politics about the placement of these sensitive positions because Maliki has rejected the names submitted for security and interior in lieu of persons who are impartial in this instance he is correct in requiring persons who are not bias towards any one party or bloc- after a lot of discussion- some of us- me included believe that this is a major reason for the hold-up After so many many dissappointments- It is important for us to understand the reasons why we are still waiting for this windfall- No matter what we have thought in the past- there always seemed to be something else holding up our payday- making us feel that Iraq was draggings it’s feet- This is NOT the case- there were and are issues that must be done before they can proceed with such a huge venture Now as Med stated in his chat- we are most likely looking at sometime on the front of Jan 2011 after parliment returns Although they have indicated a break- work is still ongoing with the different facets of the gov’t and I feel they will enter parliment ready to complete business in gov’t formation The world has not blinked- and the powers have far more info about what is exactly happenning within Iraq then we do- so they have”Acted” in helping Iraq get thru these administrative actions which will lead to a soverign gov’t and revaluation of their money 402raptor says to Night it seems we could have a long road ahead of us still. what do you think?? Nighthk11 says to (13:20:17): Raptor- given the fact as we doknow them to be verified and true-I believe we are looking at the RV- They will accomplish this and get it done What distresses me is all the bashing on Med from some of the people- this is totally counterproductive to why he formed this site and at this time NOT NEEDED I have gone back to Shibibi’s statement of RV directly after gov’t formed and this was the gist of our discussion- some believed as I did that it was done and after careful heated debate- I had to concede that alas until those positions were filled and an “Official Declaration” was made public- it is formed but not completed-So Shibibi is with-in his rights I fully understand the frustration of people when they are told that we believe the RV should be at this time or that time- and it does NOT happen- with the ramifications of this event- No one single person or persons can acurately predict the RV because “We are NOT Driving This Train” and although we are privy to certain information that may point to this happening- we still do not have all the facts- Only the IRAQI’s DO Given all that we have observed within Iraqi politics during this ride- I have the utmost confidence that they will complete this business and RV- As I along with others and the Iraqi’s themselves know there is no other choice The waiting for something good is not really bad as long as you know the ultimate outcome- and that is the largest transfer of wealth in US History and we are some of the recipiants Now we know that the Kurds are meeting to complete their portion of the budget- I recall Shibibi stating that the RV was tied to the “General Budget”- Then learned later that he had ordered new smaller denoms and the payment was comming from the 2011 budget So it is all tied together in a loose sort of way- But as we can all see with the surplus and wanting to borrow monies they really did not need to complete their budget they still have a ways to go- They ARE moving- but not by western standards- This forward movement althought slow will culminate in our desires to get paid So we do what we have been doing- exercise patience- demonstrate love for each other and have faith that a “Higher Power” led all of us to this site and this moment in time because it is our destiny to be RICH Ed Abbott says to (13:38:36): do they need the new shipment of small Denoms before they can RV nighthk11 says No Ed they do not IMO- The “Smart Card” will take a long time to be used and accepted because most ME countries are Cash Based lawlesslucy says to (13:40:38): Night in your opinion do u think it will be in Jan.? Nighthk11 says to (13:42:13): YES Lucy- I think they are still meeting and hasinng out the little details- when parliment re-convenes- these issues will be addressed and delt with Given accurate facts and the education we have all received concerning this investment- there is only one final outcome and that is RV If any of you recall- we have been here before on several instances when there was a major issue- it was always resolved in the 11th hour and often after that hour had expired- this is one of those instances- Shibibi was and apparently has been ready- GOI was not So if it was the lower denoms- gov’t not fully formed- ect- it will be resolved thepainman says (13:46:20): i, for one, just want them to do this right, for their and everyones sake if it takes a little longer but allows them to succeed the first time, then i am ok with that Nighthk11 says to (13:47:22): Correct Pain- They will never have another chance with this- It is a one time event Now the rate- I was told that there is heated discussion among the hierachey in Iraq about the rate and what they want vs what is reality in what they can afford- So we will not know until they come out with it moonbeam says to (13:48:35): So it really comes down to the two critical ministry positions to be filled? Nighthk11 says to (13:49:54): Moonbeam- We believe that is the main issue and the denoms are another They have ignored the IMF before and did as they pleased to their detriment so we shall see if their arrogance overshadows their common sense again 22222 says to (13:51:52): would additional small denoms indicated anything to us on how they are leaning with the rate? Nighthk11 says to (13:52:52): I really do not believe it matters if they have a paridine concerning what they themselves think their rate should be At any length- I believe now is the time more than ever to support MED and this site with positive thoughts because we are all on this ride and together we will all be here when it ends- and contrary to what many may believe- The end is in sight- thanks and all of you stay well- stay positive and keep the faith7 points
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YES MAN WAS MADE FOR GODS GLORY.....NOT OUR OWN. OUR LORD DOES ALL THINGS IN HIS TIME FOR MANS OWN GOOD.....IF WE TRIED TO TAKE THESE THINGS UPON OURSELVES, JUST THINK OF THE MESS(NOT THAT WE CAN) LATELY WITH ALL THE HYPE, I TOO HAVE BEEN GUILTY OF DEPENDING ON MY OWN THOUGHTS AND DESIRES......THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME THAT OUR LORD IS SOVEREIGN AND AS LONG AS WE TRUST IN HIM,WE'VE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT........ALL IN HIS TIME....ALL GLORY TO OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR , JESUS7 points
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All, In one of my posts a few days ago, I said the following: Yes, I have no doubt something will happen when this all rolls out that none of us will expect. My assumption is that it will not be to our advantage. Many of you have asked what I meant by those words. From the very moment that I heard of this investment, I told my wife the following two things below. As such, this post is my explanation of the above comment, with the two thoughts below as the basis for my explanation. <P style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"> I am confident we will make money on it, but I just don’t know how much. I am sure, that despite what we’re being told, we won’t make as much money as we think we will. I went on to tell her that I felt there would be something, right before this goes down, that would change the game, and we’d get screwed out of what could have been, either partially or completely. There you have it, my raw, truthful, paranoia and skepticism abou the greedy and scheming minds of those in power who control this outcome. My thoughts are not based on fact, intel, or some sort of secret knowledge I have that you don’t. They are strictly based on my own concern that something will be different than what I hope to have happen. What could that be? Here are the speculations I have come up with in my paranoid mind over the years. Maybe many of you have had the same thoughts… Massive taxes on our investment by our own U.S. Government that take a larger-than-fair amount from the gain. IRS Audits for the whole bunch of us that will share some super-secret, hidden-in-the-fine-print description of how to deal with the IQD revaluation… If we’ve got it… then they’ll want it. Instead of Iraq doing an outright “RV” wherein we receive 1000%+ on our investment, we receive maybe a 100% or 300% return on our investment (i.e. “LOP/RV”). These are just a few examples of my own personal skepticism and paranoia about the scheming minds of those in power who don’t wish the same fate for us that they enjoy. As such, on occasion, you will read something coming from me that is a bit negative. I don’t post these particular thoughts to create panic in the minds of investors, but I am realistic, and am always open to any possible outcome, regardless of whether I personally will like it or not. This is the personally-responsible, self-sufficient, accountable side of me that OWNS what I do when I invest, thereby, not passing the “buck” to someone else for MY DECISIONS to invest in the Iraqi Dinar. You see, I don’t blame others and their words for my choices. I don’t blame the “gurus”. I don’t blame Dinar Trade or any other dealer. I don’t blame the guy who has a random fly-by post saying it will “RV tomorrow”. I assess MY finances, MY reasons, and MY goals. IF I feel comfortable that I both WANT to and CAN invest more, then I do, so long as all the other financial and goal reasons match my actions. IF they don’t, then I pass on the opportunity. You see, I too try to live by what I have preached for as long as I’ve had this site…. “Pigs get fat… Hogs get slaughtered”. I have a feeling there have been many here who chose the latter through such horrific gambles as the “Dinars on Reserve” program, wherein they’ve turned an already speculative investment into a complete, time-sensitive gamble. So, take all the above as nothing more than my honest ramblings about my own personal fears/paranoia about our investment. I’ve never pretended to be all-knowing about what will happen in the end. Though I own and run this massive site, there are many of you who are far more connected, educated, and experienced than me. As such, I am subject to the concerns and worries of any of you who read my sites’ pages. Regardless of my ramblings, lest this should cause panic in some of you, I am still holding onto what has been shared with me, that none of the above will happen, and that we’ll be blessed beyond our wildest dreams.6 points
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Okie Info Emailed to DD: 1/1/11 OKIE OIL MAN : I HAVE SOMETHING JUST GIVEN ME BY AN ECONOMIST THAT IT AM FLABBERGASTED–THIS IS NOT MY INTEL BUT INFO FROM A GENIUS IN TAXES–THE IMF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE USA HAS PURPOSEFULLY HELD BACK THE R/B BECAUSE IMBEDDED IN THE BUSH TAX CODES WHERE THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD NOT FIND IT IS THIS—THIS IS HIS WORDS-NOT MINE—UP TO 2011 ANYBODY MAKING EITHER 45 OR 49,000 DOLLARS OR LESS WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY CAPITOL GAINS–KNOWING THAT THE VAST NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE OVER THAT CATEGORY BECAUSE OF THE R/V THE USA WOULD RECEIVE MUCH MORE IN TAXES IN 2011 BECAUSE OF THAT LAW–I DON’T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT BUT I GUESS THIS IS AS GOOD A REASON AS SOMEONE ELSE STATING THE LOWER DENOMS WERE NOT PAID FOR–I KNOW–I KNOW–IT’S SOUNDS NUTS BUT THERE IT IS AS FAR AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME OKIE OIL MAN : THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME I DID NOT FULLY COMPREHEND THE CONSQUENCE–SOUNDED FISHY TO ME–BUT I’M NO TAX GURU— @ nadinelaw : This column was written by William R. Bischoff, a certified public accountant in Colorado Springs, Colorado for PPC, which is part of the tax and accounting business at Thomson Reuters. Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2010/07/30/expect-bush-tax-cuts-expire/#ixzz19oylcZrW @ nadinelaw : My take: The Administration has repeatedly said the current 0% and 15% rates on long-term capital gains and qualified dividends will be left in place except for married couples with income above $250,000 and unmarried individuals with income above $200,000. Read more:http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2010/07/30/expect-bush-tax-cuts-expire/#ixzz19oyv6ev8 TurboDonnie : http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/22/expiring-bush-cuts-affect-personal-finance-taxes.html TurboDonnie : Capital Gains/Qualified Dividends OKIE OIL MAN : TURBO–EXCELLENT ARTICLE @ nadinelaw : OKIE OIL MAN If you think it’s fishy…it probably is OKIE OIL MAN : SOUNDS LIKE UNCLE SAMMY MAY HAVE MORE TO DO WITH THIS THAN ANYONE OF US EXPECTED—WHEW OKIE OIL MAN : TURBODONNIE–KINDA VERIFYS WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME IN TERMS I WAS UN-FAMILIAR WITH waveman : SO NOW WHAT? ARE WE STILL LOOKING FOR IT TO R/V BY MONDAY? OKIE OIL MAN : SINCE IRAQ BANKS CLOSED TOMMOROW LOOKS LIKE MONDAY WOULD BE THE FIRST AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR US–IF LOGIC AND REASONING PREVAILS OKIE OIL MAN : THE SCENARIO I LAID OUT STILL SOUNDS PRETTY FAR-FETCHED TO ME—- zed : Correct me if i am wrong but is not uncle sammy how we are able to do this in the first place???? OKIE OIL MAN : ZED–THE USA-IMF-WORLD BANK–THERE ALL RELATED hopefully : Hey Okie… I just found an article under the money section in the local Salt Lake City tribune that made me sick!!! Will someone please take a look at this… Its saying that the dinar is a scam…. I am sure the interview was from a naysayer or what ever but it really bothers me that it is in Utah’s biggest newspaper!@!!!@@@!@!! hopefully : PLEASE SOMEONE READ THAT ARTICLE!!! I AM SICK TO MY STOMACH!!!! panhead : hopefully…..that article comes around every once in a while….for several years now…..no biggie OKIE OIL MAN : HOPEFULLY–DONT FRET–SOME FOLKS STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT BDC : Buying snake oil from the salesman that walks up and down the neighbourhood that claims it’ll sprout hair on your bald head is a scam. OKIE OIL MAN : IF IT IS A SCAM–LOOK OUT U S BANKS FOR LAWSUITS UP THE KAZOO BDC : It is speculation of a legitimate country’s currency. There is no Ponzi scheme. There is no scam. Other than the fact that only the currency dealers have made any significant money at this and the fact that the program rate has changed a few times to profit existing investors by over 3x… TurboDonnie : The difference in a scam and not a scam, a scam you can’t get your money back. If you sold your dinar, you would get the biggest part if it back. OKIE OIL MAN : STOP LISTENING TO THAT KIND OF CRAP–GO READ PRESIDENTIAL ORDER 13303–SAYS ENOUGH–STAY AWAY FROM RUMORS AND BELIEVEING WHAT SOME NUT SAYS OKIE OIL MAN : IF THIS A SCAM—HOW ARE OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL YOUR DINARS AT NEARLY OR SOMETIMES DEPENDING ON HOW LONG YOU HAVE HELD THEM FOR MORE THAN THEY COST? BDC : No, this isn’t a scam, it’s legitimate currency speculation, and because so, it can wind up turning out to be a loss.. panhead : if it was a scam BoA wouldn’t have supplied it to Banks throughout the country who themselves sold it….like Chase and 5th and 3rd OKIE OIL MAN : BDC–NO LOSS–BUY BACK RATE NOW EXCEEDS WHAT SOME PAID FOR DINAR WHEN IT FIRST WAS AVAILABLE portocuban : okie. whats your take on shabibi’s claim to release the lower denom before the end of the year OKIE OIL MAN : PORTOCUBAN–THAT WAS WHAT SHABBI STATED–LOOKS LIKE HE IS FORCED TO HONOR HIS WORD blessing7 : OKIE OIL MAN have the other basket currencys moved yet? I heard the dong had OKIE OIL MAN : BLESSING–DONT KNOW BDC : The other element to most scams is the promise of a quick return. Folks have been in this for 7 years and most understand that it’s a long-term speculative investment OKIE OIL MAN : BDC-CORRECTO AGAIN BDC : But not a single dealer is pawning off the idea of a QUICK and massive return like what’s evident in real scams. OKIE OIL MAN : BDC-THAT REPRESENTS A 4 TO 1 RETURN papajack : I used to ride bulls until I found out that a bull rider was nothing but a sheepherder with his brains kicked out. OKIE OIL MAN : LOL PAPAJACK-OR A DINAR INVESTOR papajack : No offence to any sheepherders. OKIE OIL MAN : I TALKED WITH THE TOOTH FAIRY AND THE 6 FOOT RABBIT LAST NITE AND THEY SAID TO HOLD ON TO OUR DINARS portocuban : sooo wasn’t there a shabibi article that said the dinar would be stronger than the dollar by the end of 2011? OKIE OIL MAN : PORTOCUBAN–STATEMENT READ DINAR WILL BE RAISED IN VALUE bigrudy : OKIE OIL MAN what do u think about people who said that they will RV in feb? OKIE OIL MAN : BIGRUDY–IN FEB FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU AND I WILL BE AHEAD OF THEM MON AND SLOW THEM DOWN- portocuban : so im a little confused okie..on DD posted something about what you have heard..you have 2 sources saying that it did rv and that it didn’t..but both of the sources agree that it will happen Monday? OKIE OIL MAN : PORTOCUBAN–NOT DIFINITIVE STATEMENT–MONDAY IS IN PLAY THO BDC : Afghanistan isn’t doing anything particularly noteworthy nor do they have much (as far as I know) pjsherer : doesn’t afg. have lithium OKIE OIL MAN : PISHERER–YOUR THE ONLY ONE THAT TRUELY REALIZES WHAT OUT PURPOSE IN BEING IN AFGHANISTAN REALLY EVENTUALLY BE bigrudy : OKIE OIL MAN so monday might be the day? OKIE OIL MAN : RUDY-COULD BEING THE KEY WORD HERE papajack : I would think it would scare Shabbibi to go international at 1170 OKIE OIL MAN : PAPAJACK–1170 IS NOT INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED RATE AS PER TRADING WITH OTHER NATIONS AS PER SEC 661—-WHO WOULD TRADE WITH PARTNERS WITH WORTHLESS CURRENCY??? papajack : Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! jhertel : so I thought that there couldn’t be an RV unless it is official, so is that what we are waiting on? BDC : Are there other currency dealers that are not American that travel there, purchase IQD, and travel back to their native countries to resell it? OKIE OIL MAN : BDC–WHEN A CURRENCY IS A INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED CURRENCY—-ANYONE CAN OWN IT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD–THUSLY–INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED CURRENCY—REMEMBER? aceman : how do you explain Vietnam? @ Dale : They have no oil ace BDC : One of the speculative theories here on why a high reval is necessary has to do with how the rest of the world would treat an 1170:1 exchange rate being so cheap and therefore “buy all of it up” once it goes public OKIE OIL MAN : BDC–THE VOLUME OF A LOT OF THEIR CURRENCY PROHIBITS TRADING AT 1170 DINAR—- Zen : Okie – do you think you will have any source confirmations today or tomorrow on whether RV is happening this week? OKIE OIL MAN : ZEN-HOPE SO BY MON Zen : sorry okie…i know we’re inundating you again. sorry about that! and i appreciate you being so generous with your time and patience! ————- bigrudy : OKIE OIL MAN is it possible that they rv on the 15 of jan OKIE OIL MAN : BIGRUDY–ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE BUT ALL INDICATIONS WOULD BE OPTIUM ON JAN 1 OKIE OIL MAN : I CAN SIT ON HERE FOR 2 SOLID HOURS REPEATING OVER AND OVER WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE LEARNED ABOUT THE TIME CONSTRAINTS AND MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS AND DEBTS AND SHABBI-ALLAWAI-MAILIL STATEMENTS ALL POINTING TO JAN 1–WHY HAVE YOU NOT RETAINED IN YOUR MEMORY ALL THE POSITIVE THINGS THAT HAS GONE ON THIS MONTH?–GO BACK–RESEARCH–READ–DON’T JUST BLINDLY FOLLOW–USE YOUR MEMORY AND GOOD SENSE TO REALIZE WHAT A FORTUNATE POSITION WE ARE IN AND STOP ASKING FOOLISH QUESTIONS THAT HAS BEEN ANSWERED A HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE—IF YOU CAN’T FOLLOW WHAT IS GOING ON–HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE ALL YOUR MONEY WHEN THIS HAPPENS? OKIE OIL MAN : EVERYTHING IS IN THE BEST SHAPE IT HAS EVER BEEN IN FOR 7 YEARS–I CAN’T UNDERSTAND ALL THE GLOOM AND DESPAIR WHEN OUR BLESSING IS CLOSER THAT A BAND-AID ON YOUR SKIN OKIE OIL MAN : IF YOU KEEP LOOKING FOR TROUBLE OR PROBLEMS—I’M SURE YOU WILL FIND THEM OKIE OIL MAN : SURELY BY NOW MOST OF YOU HAVE CAME TO REALIZE THAT IRAQ DOES NOT RUN ON OUR TIME TABLE–BUT THERES–THERES A REASON FOR THIS TAKING THIS LONG TO HAPPEN–YOU CAN NOT CONTROL ANYTHING–SIT BACK–RELAX–GO WATCH TV–DO SOMETHING BUT FOR GOD’S SAKE STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK–GET A LIFE–6 points
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what is there to debate over? you are a church going person and God does not speak to you?? and i said God didnt tell the guy to buy but it was no coincidence the way it happened. He honors our obedience. that is all there is to it. and i was not bashing anyone who does not believe..just to clear up what someone said earlier..we are all grown ups here and make our own decisions on the way we choose to live our life.6 points
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no, God didnt tell him to come buy it from me and no he didnt pay $1,000 more for the truck..mock me if you want cause i will just turn my check..but you shouldnt knock other peoples beliefs. i dont know why you say i should change my name to Pinocchio because what i am telling you is truth...i pray for God to lead me in the directions He wants me to go and when he doesnt answer me i wait on Him..if I dont get an answer i take it as a no...im not bashing anyone for their own belief but dont come on here bashing us who do believe in God and know that this has happened for a reason. and to leola...why?? i just dont understand why someone would be like that.6 points
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Your opinion is just that and in case you haven't heard everybody has one!!!!! What makes your opinion right and everybody else's wrong??? Just wondering. One thing I hope you figure out in the next say 20 years is that you really didn't know as much as you thought you did. It might be a good idea to listen to and respect those that have a few more years of common sense and research than you have. The key word in this sentence is RESPECT. Your arrogance is disgusting, but I must say I expect it every time you post!!!!6 points
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This is not a rumor, nor is it posted as such...it is an OPINION and posted properly AS an opinion: The late Mahatma Ghandi is reported to have said , "if I ever met a Christian who ACTED like Christ, then I would become a Christian..." In the angst of no-rv for such a long period of time (to some-not me) there is so very much invective and negative that I often shake my head and especially from "some" who "profess" to be Christians... people THINK : the "world" and especially the people of the ME are watching on this thing called the world-wide-web what opinion will they form of YOU based on what you say here...remember to many of them you are Christian or Jewish simply because you live in the US... what will they think of all the hateful things often posted in this forum.... HEATHERY MAY THE LORD RICHLY BLESS YOUR WORDS OF FAITH AND ENCOURAGEMENT FOR A NEWBIE YOU HAVE SHOWN WISDOM AND COURAGE IMO THAT MANY WOULD DO WELL TO HEED...WELL SAID !!!6 points
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California vs Arizona The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out bites the Governor and attacks his dog. 1. The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi", then realizes he should stop, the coyote is only doing what's natural. 2. He calls Animal Control. Animal Control captures the coyote and bills the state $200 for testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it. 3. He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the state $200 for testing it for disease. 4. The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for disease from the coyote and for getting his bite wound bandaged. 5. The running trail is shut down for 6 months, while Fish & Game conducts their $100,000 survey to make sure the area is free of dangerous animals. 6. The Governor next spends $50,000 in state funds, implementing a "Coyote Awareness" program for residents of the area. 7. The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease, throughout the world. 8. The Governor's security agent is fired for not somehow stopping the attack and for letting the Governor attempt to intervene. 9. Additional cost to State of California : $75,000 to hire and train a new security agent with additional special training re: The Nature of Coyotes. 10. PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files suit against the state. Arizona The Governor of Arizona is jogging, with her dog, along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks her dog. 1. The Governor shoots the coyote with her state-issued pistol and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP hollow-point cartridge. 2. Arizona buzzards eat the dead coyote. And that, my friends, is why California is broke.5 points
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Here is something no one has really pursued as far as the probability of the RV happening at a given time and rate: That the Iraqi Central Bank is in fact owned (like the Federal Reserve in the U.S.) by the Rothschilds and so the question to be asked (that no one has asked yet) is, When will it be most beneficial to the international banking cabal [who control everything] to have the Iraqi dinar revalue? How would it benefit them most to effect the manner in which this occurs? There are clouds of mystery surrounding this event over and beyond the obvious friction between inhabitants of the country who never have co-existed peacefully (Kurds, Shiite, Sunni) but then there are the shadow controllers who really do control what happens so it must be asked Just what is in the best interests of the Rothschilds, as it can be safely guaranteed that whatever happens will be closely orchestrated to yield the greatest benefit to them as has been so obvious in the last few centuries worth of mayhem and suffering by all mankind due to their machinations...and the CBI is directly owned by them so it does make sense to research and inquire as to the true intent relative to this revaluation?5 points
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And you are? Exactly....You know no more than ANYBODY else. And a self-proclaimed drunken typist. Sad, very sad.5 points
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great article--thanks: " formulating monetary policy; and establishing and administering a central bank." read it--then make your canadian smart- a##s--no nothing comments5 points
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Well I agree that it will happen to a degree in 2011, but there is some wrong info there in your post. 1st off Obama didnt extend anything at all, quite the opposite of what he wanted to do. The Republicans took back the house so the vote went their direction. Obama wants to tax your ass 40%+, republicans are the ones trying to keep your investment in YOUR pocket. I look at it like this. Obama WANTING to tax up is a good sign. He see's dollar signs. A lot of the rush is really a push from China, Japan, Korea and America really. Those are some pretty heavy swingers in the UN. They want results, or at least the illusion of some. But mark my words....there is going to be at least 6 months of up's and downs ahead. I hope I'm wrong....but you have to think logically.5 points
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Amen and Amen. God is our source and I do believe the Word is True. Iraq will become one of the leading countries in the World. It is because of prophecies about rebuilt Babylon and the Word of God that I invested in the dinar and believe with my whole heart it will be a way for the Lord to bless us, but remember God blesses us TO BE A BLESSING.5 points
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yes i too can not wait to use this dinar to begin iradicating poverty in our country and all over. i am so excited that God is giving us all a chance to be a giver in a whole new way.5 points
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I think I LOVE YOU!! God has put peace in me knowing this WILL HAPPEN soon! Everyone is uptight, even the Believers. I know that I know it is going to happen soon! It came from the spirit of God awhile back. Great post! All that read this and "keeps", and anyone else; just continue to have faith!5 points
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So I received this on my profile: djgabrielie Yesterday, 08:32 PMHad a complaint about your avatar and was asked if you would consider changing it? not bashing the mods they do a good job even though we get on their back sometimes they have good tough skin... Now with all of the talk of Libs jumping on this site I have to wonder how my profile pic effected anyone when there are way worse ones out there. I picked 3 that I would love the DV family to vote on not good at the poll thing and it doesn't have a place to add the pics so here goes... I kinda like this one b/c of all the birth certificate stuff coming out right now. This one shows Obama when he is griping about Bush when he should be the one to Own the economy he created. Someone got a pic of Obama in his native form LOL (gonna get bashed and prolly kicked for this one) you can simply bash away or just add a 1. 2. or 3. in your comment Thank you to all who get a chance to vote on this before it is closed or trashed4 points
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"Which means with all the GURU information anyone could gather over the years of time that stated that the Paris Debt Reduction Program is null and void without an RV in 2010.......... Then I guess it is null and void and the FULL DEBT MUST BE PAID now that the RV officially did not happen in the designated time frame." I am not sure where the gurus got this idea.....I have perused every paper related to the Paris Club and nowhere does it state this..nowhere. I agree with you. We all need to do our own research to verify or debunk any information we get from these forums and make our own conclusions. The best thing to do is just wait! We can read blogs till our eyes are red and it really means nothing until the "announcement" is made....IF the announcement is ever made. When it boils down to it, Iraq does not HAVE to RV...ever. They do need a recognized currency to trade worldwide and that will come with government formation, budget, agreements with Kuwait and then UN sanctions lifted. After that , because of the rich oil fields they possess, the dinar will gain strength on it's own....and that is where I see our investment coming to fruition. Of course I ,like everyone else here, would love to see it just "pop" and become rich...it is possible but I am not holding my breath. I thank all of you that do research and share your findings with us all...I hope it pays off........and to the gurus...I do hope you are right one day!4 points
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the best intel is my own i just dont share ''it has to happen'' if we look at all the facts it has too,and SOME gurus have helped me in my assumptions scooter being one,im jus fed up and bored of the pumping muppets who pray on new investors to spend more on this. SCOOTER DOC31 A.M. all deal with facts. hope this happens soon coz were all gettin frustrated4 points
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“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. Matthew 5:11-12 cenlalsufan, God bless you...take comfort in His word and pray for those who persecute you (Matt 5:44) God bless us all and I pray this RV happens soon for all of our sakes! Today is my first day on this site, was very sad to see ppl being judged by their beliefs.... Happy New Year to ALL of you!4 points
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With the reasons highlighted in red and smart cards being loaded on the 10th of January. I really like the 10th for an RV!4 points
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I have vowed never to read a Terryk post again since June 2010. My New Years Resolution is to never read a Medic post ever again. Personally if it were my web site I would ban any information from the pair of them4 points
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It would seem that way, and it's been blatantly obvious for a long time that these people are inexperienced, unprofessional and corrupt. That being said, the simple truth is that we don't "really" know who is in charge of the RV, or for that matter, if it even "exists" in any reality except that which we've created ourselves by piecing together official information and inaccurate opinions of so-called gurus. There are so many different opinions and excuses at this point that there's no way to be sure of anything. They've accomplished more in the past month than they have in the last 2 years, so we just have to remain patient until it becomes obvious that every reasonable obstacle to the RV has been removed, after which we'll have to make a decision as to what the reality might actually be. Meanwhile, try to remain sane and hopeful.4 points
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You say that no one will know the rate yet you state that the rate won't be over 2. Stop contradicting yourself please.4 points
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Very well put. We need to wait upon the Lord to direct our steps and HE shall supply all our needs. Should HE choose to do this thru the dinar RV then praise the Lord. Just remember we should attempt to help those in need as God leads. It truly is more blessed to give than to receive however it sure would be great for this RV to go ahead and happen so that we might be in a better position to share with those in need around us. GO RV and Happy New Year!!4 points