Popular Post Mr T Posted October 28, 2011 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Date & Rate Predictions for the past 5 weeks: I have reviewed several online forums / chat rooms related to the IQD and have seen many date and rate predictions. I have also seen many statements that either support or reject these predictions. I have also noticed the predictions have become more aggressive over time and the opposition has become more aggressive as well. Since these predictions are most frequently placed in the “Rumors” forums, I don’t place a lot of weight on them, however, I wanted to see if there were any common themes or trends that stood out. A big part of my day-time job is related to statistical analysis and finding “the story” in a given dataset. There is a lot of data here to analyze and although I could have gone further back in history, I felt that it would just lead to diminishing returns and wanted to share what I have found with everyone. Feel free to repost this on your own preferred forum (in the rumors section please, since analysis of rumors should by definition be a rumor itself) so that others may benefit from my efforts. If you want to flag me or give me a negative, knock yourself out…. I have only been invested in the IQD for about 4 months (yes, a relative newbie to these sites), but I have learned a great deal about currency speculation (mostly from the same gurus that make these predictions. I am not a guru, I am an analyst. I have decided to continue reading the rumors for entertainment and the occasional nugget of worthwhile information and watch the news sections with more interest. I also track the CBI, Forex, and a couple of currency rate sites so that I have a real-time feed of actual rate information. So here is a list (not comprehensive by any stretch of the imagination) of the rates and dates predicted by several gurus, grouped by the guru in chronological order. Down below I have summarized my key take-aways from this data. I also summarized the rate prediction ranges that are shown here as well as the frequency that each guru made a rate prediction. Enjoy! Day of Week Date Predicted RV Date (No later than) Predicted RV Rate Guru Wednesday 10/5/2011 12/31/2011 8Ball Monday 10/17/2011 11/20/2011 8Ball Wednesday 9/21/2011 0.1 Adam Montana Wednesday 10/5/2011 11/24/2011 Adam Montana Wednesday 10/12/2011 12/31/2011 Adam Montana Wednesday 10/19/2011 11/30/2011 0.1 Adam Montana Wednesday 9/21/2011 Over 3.00 Bear5642 Tuesday 9/27/2011 9/30/2011 Bear5642 Monday 10/3/2011 11/24/2011 Bear5642 Wednesday 10/5/2011 11/4/2011 Bear5642 Thursday 10/6/2011 11/31/2011 Less than 4.00 Bear5642 Friday 10/7/2011 11/31/2011 Bear5642 Tuesday 10/11/2011 11/3/2011 Bear5642 Wednesday 10/12/2011 11/3/2011 3.62 Bear5642 Saturday 10/15/2011 11/30/2011 Bear5642 Wednesday 10/19/2011 10/27/2011 3.22 Bear5642 Friday 10/21/2011 11/7/2011 Bear5642 Sunday 10/23/2011 11/3/2011 Bear5642 Monday 10/24/2011 11/5/2011 Bear5642 Monday 9/26/2011 9/29/2011 BGG Thursday 9/29/2011 10/29/2011 BGG Wednesday 10/19/2011 10/25/2011 BGG Sunday 9/25/2011 9/28/2011 Bluwolf Sunday 10/16/2011 10/23/2011 Bluwolf Tuesday 10/25/2011 10/26/2011 Bluwolf Friday 10/21/2011 1/1/2012 -- Breitling Sunday 10/23/2011 12/31/2011 0.86 Breitling Saturday 10/1/2011 1 Brietling Wednesday 9/21/2011 9/23/2011 Bulldog75 Tuesday 9/27/2011 9/29/2011 Bulldog75 Wednesday 9/28/2011 9/29/2011 Bulldog75 Wednesday 9/28/2011 9/28/2011 Bulldog75 Thursday 9/29/2011 10/1/2011 Bulldog75 Friday 9/30/2011 10/1/2011 Bulldog75 Saturday 10/1/2011 10/2/2011 Bulldog75 Monday 10/3/2011 10/8/2011 Bulldog75 Thursday 10/6/2011 10/6/2011 Bulldog75 Saturday 10/8/2011 Over 4.40 Bulldog75 Monday 10/10/2011 Over 4.40 Bulldog75 Tuesday 10/11/2011 10/14/2011 Bulldog75 Tuesday 10/11/2011 10/14/2011 Bulldog75 Thursday 10/13/2011 10/15/2011 Bulldog75 Thursday 10/20/2011 10/31/2011 Bulldog75 Friday 10/21/2011 10/26/2011 Bulldog75 Saturday 10/22/2011 10/29/2011 Bulldog75 Wednesday 10/26/2011 11/4/2011 3 Bulldog75 Thursday 10/13/2011 10/16/2011 BWM Sunday 10/23/2011 10/29/2011 BWM Monday 10/24/2011 10/31/2011 BWM Tuesday 10/25/2011 10/29/2011 BWM Tuesday 9/27/2011 9/29/2011 zzzzzzzzz Wednesday 9/28/2011 9/30/2011 zzzzzzzzz Friday 9/30/2011 10/5/2011 zzzzzzzzz Saturday 10/1/2011 10/5/2011 3.50 to 4.00 zzzzzzzzz Friday 10/7/2011 Over 3.22 zzzzzzzzz Wednesday 10/26/2011 10/31/2011 3.22 zzzzzzzzz Friday 9/23/2011 3.63 Eagle Has Landed Tuesday 9/27/2011 12/31/2011 Frank26 Thursday 10/20/2011 11/24/2011 1 Frank26 Thursday 9/22/2011 9/30/2011 Freeway Bill Sunday 9/25/2011 9/26/2011 Freeway Bill Wednesday 9/28/2011 Over 1.00 Freeway Bill Friday 9/30/2011 8.47 Freeway Bill Monday 10/3/2011 11/17/2011 Freeway Bill Sunday 10/9/2011 10/14/2011 8.47 Freeway Bill Tuesday 10/11/2011 10/13/2011 Over 3.00 Freeway Bill Monday 10/17/2011 10/31/2011 Freeway Bill Saturday 10/22/2011 10/26/2011 Freeway Bill Tuesday 10/25/2011 10/25/2011 3 Freeway Bill Monday 10/3/2011 10/6/2011 Ghost Thursday 10/27/2011 10/27/2011 Ghost Friday 10/7/2011 10/7/2011 5.77 Jonnywg Saturday 10/8/2011 10/9/2011 5.77 Jonnywg Sunday 10/9/2011 5.77 Jonnywg Monday 10/10/2011 Probably has happened Jonnywg Tuesday 10/11/2011 5.96 (not an official rate) Jonnywg Wednesday 10/12/2011 10/14/2011 Jonnywg Thursday 10/13/2011 10/14/2011 1.00 to 8.00 Jonnywg Friday 10/14/2011 10/14/2011 Jonnywg Tuesday 10/18/2011 10/20/2011 Jonnywg Wednesday 10/19/2011 10/19/2011 Jonnywg Thursday 10/20/2011 10/22/2011 Jonnywg Friday 10/21/2011 10/22/2011 -- Jonnywg Saturday 10/22/2011 10/22/2011 2 Jonnywg Monday 10/24/2011 10/29/2011 Jonnywg Thursday 10/27/2011 10/27/2011 Jonnywg Tuesday 9/27/2011 12/31/2011 Kaperoni Sunday 10/23/2011 12/31/2011 Kaperoni Tuesday 10/25/2011 12/31/2011 0.86 Kaperoni Sunday 9/25/2011 1 Med Wednesday 9/28/2011 1 Med Thursday 9/29/2011 over 3.00 Med Tuesday 10/4/2011 11/30/2011 Med Tuesday 10/11/2011 12/31/2011 1 Med Tuesday 10/18/2011 11/24/2011 Med Friday 10/21/2011 1 Med Wednesday 9/21/2011 9/29/2011 OOM Monday 9/26/2011 9/29/2011 OOM Wednesday 9/28/2011 9/29/2011 OOM Thursday 9/29/2011 10/1/2011 OOM Friday 9/30/2011 10/1/2011 OOM Tuesday 10/4/2011 3.4 OOM Tuesday 10/11/2011 11/3/2011 OOM Thursday 10/13/2011 10/31/2011 OOM Saturday 10/15/2011 10/31/2011 3.43 OOM Monday 10/17/2011 10/31/2011 OOM Thursday 10/20/2011 10/23/2011 OOM Saturday 10/22/2011 11/3/2011 OOM Monday 10/24/2011 11/5/2011 OOM Thursday 9/22/2011 9/25/2011 1 Phoenix333 Monday 9/26/2011 10/1/2011 Phoenix333 Wednesday 9/28/2011 10/1/2011 Phoenix333 Wednesday 10/19/2011 10/20/2011 Phoenix333 Wednesday 9/21/2011 10/1/2011 Poppy2 Wednesday 10/12/2011 Done on 6/30/2011 Poppy3 Saturday 10/15/2011 Done on 6/30/2011 Poppy3 Thursday 10/20/2011 10/28/2011 Poppy3 Sunday 10/9/2011 10/16/2011 High Purplehelmet300 Monday 10/24/2011 10/29/2011 Purplehelmet300 Sunday 10/2/2011 3.45 Randy Koonce Thursday 10/27/2011 12/31/2011 Randy Koonce Monday 10/3/2011 3.4 Ray Thursday 9/22/2011 9/23/2011 3.50 - 4.40 ScottiG Sunday 9/25/2011 Probably has happened ScottiG Monday 9/26/2011 3.50 - 4.40 ScottiG Friday 9/30/2011 10/2/2011 3.60 - 4.50 ScottiG Monday 10/3/2011 10/8/2011 ~3.00 ScottiG Sunday 10/9/2011 10/31/2011 Low rate to High Rate ScottiG Friday 10/14/2011 12/3/2011 Low rate to High Rate ScottiG Monday 10/24/2011 11/5/2011 ScottiG Tuesday 10/4/2011 12/4/2011 Steve1 Wednesday 10/5/2011 3.50 to 4.50 Studley Friday 9/30/2011 10/8/2011 8 TerryK Saturday 10/8/2011 5.67 to 8.16 TerryK Thursday 10/20/2011 10/23/2011 TerryK Thursday 10/27/2011 10/27/2011 3.43 TerryK Thursday 9/29/2011 9/30/2011 8.47 Tmoney Wednesday 9/21/2011 10/1/2011 TonyTNT Friday 9/23/2011 9/26/2011 TonyTNT Saturday 9/24/2011 9/26/2011 TonyTNT Sunday 9/25/2011 9/26/2011 TonyTNT Monday 9/26/2011 10/1/2011 TonyTNT Tuesday 9/27/2011 9/30/2011 TonyTNT Wednesday 9/28/2011 9/30/2011 TonyTNT Friday 9/30/2011 10/1/2011 TonyTNT Sunday 10/2/2011 10/3/2011 TonyTNT Monday 10/3/2011 10/5/2011 3.65 to 8.00 TonyTNT Wednesday 10/5/2011 10/18/2011 TonyTNT Friday 10/7/2011 10/8/2011 over 3.00 TonyTNT Monday 10/10/2011 11/9/2011 TonyTNT Tuesday 10/11/2011 1.00 to 5.00 increasing to 8.00 TonyTNT Monday 10/17/2011 11/3/2011 1 to 8.47 TonyTNT Thursday 10/20/2011 10/25/2011 TonyTNT Friday 10/21/2011 10/23/2011 TonyTNT Tuesday 10/25/2011 10/29/2011 TonyTNT General Trends with Date Predictions: Guru # of Date Predictions Summary of Predictions TonyTNT 16 Generally within days, lately moved to weeks Bulldog75 15 Generally an End of Week RV Prediction each week Jonnywg 12 Within 48 hours or already happened Bear5642 11 Thought end of Sept. now consistently end of Oct / early Nov OOM 11 Generally predicts end of current month / early next month Freeway Bill 8 Generally an End of Week RV Prediction ScottiG 7 Already happened at end of Sept, now into December Med 6 Thanksgiving to End of year predictions zzzzzzzzz 5 Generally an End of Week RV Prediction Adam Montana 4 Generally an End of Week RV Prediction Phoenix333 4 Generally an End of Week RV Prediction BGG 3 Predicts end of month Poppy3 4 End of month predictions or already done TerryK 3 End of week 8Ball 2 Thanksgiving to End of year predictions Bluwolf 2 Predicts by end of the week Breitling 2 End of year Frank26 2 Thanksgiving to End of year predictions Ghost 1 Days away Kaperoni 1 End of year Purplehelmet300 1 End of week Steve1 1 Thanksgiving to End of year predictions Tmoney 1 Tomorrow Prediction Day of Week Summary: Day of Prediction # of Predictions among all gurus Monday 19 Tuesday 19 Wednesday 28 Thursday 21 Friday 18 Saturday 10 Sunday 12 I don’t see any huge trend here other than a spike mid-week (Wed, Th.) and decline on the weekend. Sort of coincides with the “must RV on Tues., Wed., Thurs. “ school of thought… GURU RATE PREDICTION RANGES Guru Times a Rate Was Predicted Range (USD / IQD) Adam Montana 2 0.1 Bear5642 4 3.00 - 4.00 Brietling 2 0.86 - 1 Bulldog75 3 3.00 - 4.00 zzzzzzzzz 3 3.22 - 4.00 Eagle Has Landed 1 3.63 Frank 1 1 Freeway Bill 5 1.00 - 8.47 Jonnywg 6 1.00 - 8.00 Kaperoni 1 0.86 Med 4 1.00 - over 3.00 OOM 2 3.43 Phoenix333 1 1 Purplehelmet300 1 High Randy Koonce 1 3.45 Ray 1 3.4 ScottiG 6 3.00 - 4.50 Studley 1 3.50 - 4.50 TerryK 3 3.43 - 8.16 Tmoney 1 8.47 TonyTNT 4 1.00 - 8.00 Draw your own conclusion about the rate predictions. I think you will probably find a range and corresponding guru that you personally are aligned with. That is just human nature, but my take-away is that there are a couple of realists shown here, they don’t predict rates often and have at least put some analysis behind their prediction. Some are all over the place and typically don’t have any supporting data to back their prediction up, and others just bump what they hear from someone they are aligned with and put it in their own words. In summary, there are a couple of gurus that are so vague with their predictions (dates and / or rates) that I couldn’t pin it down, so I did not include them here. If date ranges were predicted, I only included the date that was the furthest into the future to keep this as conservative as I could for the guru. Needless to say, most of the gurus have been consistently incorrect with their date predictions (some of the predictions are yet to occur, so we’ll see how those turn out) and only time will tell if any of the rate predictions are accurate. While I hope for the $3 - $5 rate range, I am prepared for break-even. While I hope that the RV has already happened (as a couple of gurus have stated), I am prepared for months or even years to happen. Hang in there everyone, remember this is only money. Don’t sweat the small stuff, and believe me this is the small stuff in life. Don’t forget to live your life to its fullest while you wait for the RV. Peace 52 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IchDien Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Extremely impressive analysis here, very well done! I'm glad to be your first +1 You did not indicate what YOUR rate/date predictions were, based on your own analysis...I'd be interested in your thoughts on that. I didn't see Okie or several others here, was that because it was too obviously full of manure to include? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex38 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Thanks IchDien, appreciate the feedback 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IchDien Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Thanks IchDien, appreciate the feedback You bet! Us analytical minds need to stick together...at least you get pos for yours, lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberlye Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Wow, what a lot of work that was. I wish I was an analyst so I could analyze your analysis and come up with some sort of analogy that would help me figure out which guru to analyze so I would finally know the date and rate. I could only come up with: It was Bulldog, on a Wednesday, at end of the year, with the candlestick. Seriously, thanks for the post. I'm not sure what it means. I'd love to see your analysis for an entire year. Although, I have a feeling that may render the same results; as in all over the board and nobody knows nothing --- yet. Have a great weekend, Mr. T, and welcome to DV Kimberlye 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 IchDien: I'm not brave enough to make a prediction on this, but I'll share my instincts and thoughts. Based on my personal feelings, I would tend to agree with Adam and Frank26 the most. It looks like the Iraqi government does not have a sense of urgency for the RV (they are not the ones feeling the pain, the citizens and to some extent, the IQD investors are). If this happens by year end, I will be pleasantly surprised but not shocked. As for a rate, my analytical side says that we would be lucky with $0.10 (still a roughly 1,000% increase in our investment which is incredible in anyone's investment dreams). I do believe that over time, the IQD will increase in value (post-RV), but that will take years and will only occur if Iraq remains a stable country. My bank account and retirement fund is screaming for $1 plus, but I try to keep that fantasy contained IchDien: I know that this is not a comprehensive list, but I do have a fulltime job and thought that spending anymore time on this would not result in a significant change in my take-aways. Also, due to my ignorance on who these gurus are, I actually combined OkieOilMan into the OOM guru group. I thought they were one and the same person since so many people use acronyms / abbreviations for their name. I apologize to all if this is incorrect. This won't change my summary, but I'm sorry if I misrepresented OkieOilMan and/or OOM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarThug Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I didn't see Okie or several others here, was that because it was too obviously full of manure to include? His Listing for OOM is Probably Okie Oil Man. Thx for the Post and the Research Mr T ! If Anybody Believes TerryK's $ 8.00 Rate then "I Pity The Fool" ! :D 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Kimberlye: Thanks for the note. If I were to attempt taking this back a year, I'd probably be committed to a nuthouse. I tend to agree that it probably wouldn't change the key findings though. I also get the feeling that the names may change but the characters remain the same. There is some great analysis coming from some of these gurus and it gives me new perspective on the investment. If you want to analyze a guru, it is best to just read as many of their posts as you can find and listen to your instincts. Most of the time, your gut will tell you whether it is based in reality or fantasy. The fantasy is fun to dream about, but the reality will keep you grounded. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberlye Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Kimberlye: Thanks for the note. If I were to attempt taking this back a year, I'd probably be committed to a nuthouse. I tend to agree that it probably wouldn't change the key findings though. I also get the feeling that the names may change but the characters remain the same. There is some great analysis coming from some of these gurus and it gives me new perspective on the investment. If you want to analyze a guru, it is best to just read as many of their posts as you can find and listen to your instincts. Most of the time, your gut will tell you whether it is based in reality or fantasy. The fantasy is fun to dream about, but the reality will keep you grounded. Mr. T, you are a very wise newbie. I've been in this since 2006, so, although I read the guru posts, it is entirely for entertainment. I look forward to reading your future posts. Kimberlye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billio0 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Excellent work my friend. I just love the down-and-dirty facts. They never lie! Keep up the good work,and don't be so shy in the future. Speak your mind no matter what. We ARE all in this together, and I share your patience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volqluest Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 only God know and he aint telling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppermike Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Well done. Kinda puts things in perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWGUY Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Great job on the post!! I like you watch the news also, and read the rumors for entertainment, to release stress from the constant craziness of this investment. This section is always fun to read! Keep up the good work, and Go RV!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClermontThinker Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Mr T... You, my brother, ROCK!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So.Cal Dinar Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Could we have Links please, yep for all of it Mr T Jk,jk,jk LMAO Really good work +1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyKreme Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 WOW Mr. T Would you have some time to look at my retirement portfolio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 So.Cal Dinar: I speak fluent sarcasm as well.... - Links? We don't need no stinkin' links. - Silly wabbit, Links are for kids. - To err is human, to Link is divine - In God we trust, all others must provide Links - Chuck Norris has the Links, whatcha gonna do now??? - I am the weakest Link in the chain - and my personal favorite "I pity the fool that questions my Links" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrispyKreme Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 WOW Mr. T keep the analysis coming. Would you have some time to look at my retirement portfolio. Mr. T == you could open up a VIP site or write a book about this investment and make .............!!! Boy am i going to catch it for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 KrispyKreme: First of all, I am currently eating celery for lunch because of you. Only 15lbs more to lose, but man are those donuts incredible (worth every pound). Secondly, if I was smart enough to plan a retirement portfolio, do you think I would have invested in the IQD? Just kiddin'... I have bought my lottery ticket and am waiting for them to draw the winning numbers. Now, I plan to finish paying off my debt, then put away 6 mths of expenses, then start saving 15% of my income and pay off my mortgage. No magic bullet, just requires discipline and delayed gratification. If you want details, I would recommend you look into Dave Ramsey's program. It ain't sexy, but it has teeth and I only wish I had started following it years ago. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glo Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Thx for the Post and the Research Mr T ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learning all i can Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 who is this masked man????? btw thx for the post...very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payout Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 kimberlye now thats funny stuff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abarvets Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Welcome aboard. Thanks for the post. That was some great research Mr. T! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Mr. T.... Thanks.Appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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