3.68

[Priscilla]

If "...you don't understand how anyone can claim they know what the RV value will be...", why are you asking for "...facts and nothing else..." How do you know these claims did not come from someone that researched the "facts" (easily done) and they are putting forth their findings as their opinion, therefore, their claim? Some here obviously are just throwing up crap, others know their stuff. That is for you to decipher.

The speculating is debate, presentation of facts, opinions, hypothesis. Unless you are an avid researcher on this subject (which I am not) reading all of the opinions is very confusing, because you have no idea who is correct, or just pontificating, blowing hot air.

If you are just interested in the "...$$$ in my pocket...", but would still like to learn, I suggest you find a poster you feel is knowledgeable and follow them. You may start to see a trend of discussions that will give you a good education.

You are looking to be spoon fed "facts" from people you do not even know?????? We are noy purchasing $1 Lottery tickets. This is a bigger game. Stand up to the plate and take a swing, along with some responsibility.

I would put my time into reading and digesting, and quit with the whining.

Geeezzz..thanks for your oh so kind words.. sound like you really know the score here!!!!! good for you!

[Carrello]

Geeezzz..thanks for your oh so kind words.. sound like you really know the score here!!!!! good for you!

You wrote the score - I just put words to it. Reread your post. It's got a beat, but it's hard to dance to.

Edited August 31, 2011 by Carrello

[abutchbaker]

Oh boy more nonsence to read...........

[Atheist]

JMO, but if you really knew anything about this investment, you would know Keep is right in his statement. This is not about dreams, it is about facts.

First off Keep is always negative and second, he didn't state facts but his opinion. Since nobody knows what the rate will be, anyone that gives one is stating an opinion and not a fact.

[Carrello]

First off Keep is always negative and second, he didn't state facts but his opinion. Since nobody knows what the rate will be, anyone that gives one is stating an opinion and not a fact.

True. But do not misinterpret Keep's knowledge of facts for an opinion.

I am not going to get into a contest over this. Peace. Go RV and all that jazz.

[Rdy_Stdy_GO]

I will take .10 !!! I am not greedy.

Lemme know where yer goin to cash out at, I may meet you there... .10 is tempting!

[firefighter_218546]

So you want me to explain 3.68 ummmm let me see it looks like three numbers and two of them have a dot between them.. but it could also be a dot with three numbers but two of the numbers surrounding the dot.. I don't know I could be wrong but I can give you some numbers too. Take a look at this one .10 I kind of like this one 69.69 but if you don't like those numbers try this one .35 or .85 or 1.17 heck I have even seen 5.45 I am just pulling these numbers from my head just like the numbers people post out here, NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT A RATE OR WHEN THIS WILL BUST..

Go Rv

God Bless America

[Wahinekapu]

I'm not greedy either, but, there's a lot of people I can help. I suggest everyone make your list of what you're going to do because your brain will go crazy when this happens and you'll probably make some wrong choices.

Make your list now, go through it over and over again, you'll probably make adjustments to it and when it hits the fan, hopefully you'll be logical.

This is how I did my list:

God first contributing to several churches with ties to my family and friends

Family second children, grandchildren, family and friends; paying off creditors, etc. (this also includes learning a lot from Adam and his sources in order to accomplish these)

Others next youth groups

Then I went further into detail for each of the above.

My bags are packed and I'm ready to go . . . .

[umbertino]

Make it rain, make it rain, make it rain.

[marknet73]

Dreams don't pay the bills. I'd be happy with a slow gradual change in the right direction. Keep is right on the $.

[Retiredofficer]

Keep...keeps it real. I've been on this "slow train moving" for 7 years. I'll take .10 cents but I think it will be equal or little less than $1.00. This was a "penny stock" like investment. Get rich it is not, unless you have 25M plus invested. Not trying to be a downer but going with 7 years of listening to people who have a good bit more experience than me (i.e. Scooter).

[jg167_mkII]

I really don't understand how anyone can claim they know what the RV value will be..Nobody knows this..Not even Adam.....We all want to know..!..all this speculating just stirs up everyone and to the people that are just learning like me it gets confusing....Guess I'm just interested in facts and nothing else.. speculation is not going to put $$ in my pocket..

While no one knows just what will happen, I think we can say what won't happen. And alas a straight up RV at 1 IQD per $1 USD is something that can not happen. The value of a country's GDP and its money supply have to stay in some sort of sync. For most countries M2 is something like 80% of GDP. Exactly what are those limits? Who knows, but M2 getting to be 1000x GDP is clearly outside of them.

[Shick]

it will be 1.17 dinar per 1 us dollar

1170 <~~~~remove three zeros ~~~~~~>1.17

rounded up is 1.20 to 1 usd

1200 dinar divided by 1.20 = 1000 USD

the article below is why i say this

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Babylon University Study: Proposal to Raise Zeros From Iraqi Dinar

Posted: May 31, 2011 Iraqi Dinar/Politics

May 27, 2011

Proposal to raise zeros from Iraqi dinar

A. M. D. Jawad Kadhim al-Bakri

Usually Matqom financial authorities of b (Ministry of Finance) by using the (fiscal policy) in order to maintain the general level of prices, in addition to the use of all productive resources available in the local economy to reach a state of full employment, as well as supporting the march of economic development, and this is done through the use of power financial instruments of fiscal policy b (government spending, and taxes).

The Authority uses financial instruments to address these problems (inflation, recession, unemployment), which is usually self-styled (the gap inflationary and deflationary gap), which might be exposed to the local economy, in addition to their use is targeted to raise the level of growth in the country.

Thus, the fiscal authority has no right to influence money supply and demand as they are the powers of the monetary authority of the Central Bank.

History tells us modern economy that many of the countries of the world (which went through wars large Kaharpin Wars I and II or the collapse of their totalitarian as States of the former socialist camp) has proceeded to one of two things, either you change the national currency or remove a group zeroes them to return to the square of economic stability.

In the U.S. experience in Iraq after the fall of the previous dictatorial regime has the Coalition Provisional Authority to change the currency of the new Iraqi currency, but equal in value, which would not intentionally CPA to raise the purchasing power of the Iraqi currency against the U.S. dollar or other currencies.

This situation led to keep the Iraqi dinar is equivalent to (0.067) U.S. cents, which indicates a significant decrease in the purchasing power of the Iraqi dinar.

If what has lift (three zeros) from the Iraqi dinar, it will lead to increase its value to the (1000) once calculated value Almertbip to the number of zeros that have been filed, any box of cigarettes that were sold (1000) dinars possible purchase after the lifting of the zeroes dinar and one, a thousand dinars and modern can be obtained by the A pack of cigarettes.

In theory and when lifting (three zeros from Iraqi dinar), the purchasing power will rise to the U.S. dollar significantly to become one U.S. dollar equals (JD and a half) just so that the goods imported from abroad, worth before the lifting of the zeroes (1.2 million) Iraqi dinars, equivalent to ( 1000) U.S. dollars, will be worth after the lifting of the three zeroes (1200) Iraqi dinars, equivalent to (1000) dollars as well, and this will Igelb to remember any negative effects on the Iraqi citizen of the theory.

Positives raise zeros from the Iraqi dinar: The process of removing three zeros from Iraqi dinar deliberate, according to a tight monetary policy will lead to the following pros:

1. raise the purchasing power of the Iraqi dinar.

2. revalue the Iraqi dinar against other currencies.

3. increase the confidence of the Iraqi economy to foreign investors.

4. increase the confidence of the Iraqi citizen Bammelth National, which has become comparable to other currencies such as the U.S. dollar and the Jordanian dinar and the Kuwaiti dinar … etc..

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Thanks Aqua Dude this too is good news you've done your homework my friend, I will checking out the link as well.

I really don't understand how anyone can claim they know what the RV value will be..Nobody knows this..Not even Adam.....We all want to know..!..all this speculating just stirs up everyone and to the people that are just learning like me it gets confusing....Guess I'm just interested in facts and nothing else.. speculation is not going to put $$ in my pocket..

You're correct Priscilla, no one really knows or do they? Research is very important, a lot has been printed and a lot more will be printed concerning the dinars and where it's going to be once it has RV'd. I can tell you this whoever is right will forever be the hero in my eyes. I've researched this thing myself and the pros of the pros gives a different answer and these folk are no different, they're just shooting at the stars, and I think it's better then watching them.

Peace!

[keepmwlknfny]

Why are you HERE!.......you have nothing possitive to say about this investment........do you just like to flush peoples dreams down the drain??........give us a break and go play with your xbox.......we understand you believe this is a waist of time and money,we get the point!!

LOL did I hurt your feelings by not saying it we will wake up to a 5 dollar rate? LOL.....does reality hurt that bad??

I wasent even being negative.....just stating that if they choose to RV that it would most likely be low at first and then slowly rise....if you believe that overnight the dinar will go from 1170 to even a 2 or 3 dollar rate, then please pass that stuff over here cause I need a little of that!!! LOL The reality of the situation is that their GDP needs to go up, and the currency in circulation needs to go down.....

I have NEVER stated this is a waste of time or money......dont ever put words in my mouth again......

Use a little common sense next time you want to post a comment, if I really thought this was a waste of time or money I WOULDNT BE HERE!!! How hard of a concept is that to grasp?? Im here just like everyone else is.....TO MAKE MONEY.....but Im sooooooo sorry if I dont believe Okie anymore LOL (as if I ever did) But after being here for a little bit, reading, and researching, I think I have a better comprehension of what is possible and what is not....thats what happens when you learn.....and when you do your own homework rather then just being spoon fed what sounds great......

First off Keep is always negative and second, he didn't state facts but his opinion. Since nobody knows what the rate will be, anyone that gives one is stating an opinion and not a fact.

3.86 or 3.68 will NOT happen as a RV......that IS fact......

I would bet my life on it.....

BTW, Im not always negative......Im just not a people pleaser and I dont tell you what you wanna hear......but no worries, you got plenty of other people around here to do that for you right? LOL

[WILLB]

I'm curious,

it's been said that the people of Iraq are using the US dollar for the most part to purchase goods and what not, Why, because they trust it. My understanding in the short time I've been a part of this, is that they don't trust the Dinar, their own currency. This makes perfect sense because it's been severely devalued. What then must the GOI and CBI do to make the people want to trust and use the dinar over the us dollar. Even at a 1:1 RV, why would they switch, doesn't make any sense for them to since they already have the "trusted" us dollar. I think it is not "an impossibility" for the Dinar to revalue at something more like it was worth before Sudaam at 3.22 to the US dollar, or something higher than a 1:1 RV anyway. It was stated that Iraq would once again be the richest Nation in the middle east if not the entire world. So in my opinion, this is all feasible and for Keep and others to say "this is fact" or "that is fact" is just immature and without thought, it's all just speculation, they don't know, no one does, except the ones doing it.

Respectfully,

Will

[keepmwlknfny]

I'm curious,

it's been said that the people of Iraq are using the US dollar for the most part to purchase goods and what not, Why, because they trust it. My understanding in the short time I've been a part of this, is that they don't trust the Dinar, their own currency. This makes perfect sense because it's been severely devalued. What then must the GOI and CBI do to make the people want to trust and use the dinar over the us dollar. Even at a 1:1 RV, why would they switch, doesn't make any sense for them to since they already have the "trusted" us dollar. I think it is not "an impossibility" for the Dinar to revalue at something more like it was worth before Sudaam at 3.22 to the US dollar, or something higher than a 1:1 RV anyway. It was stated that Iraq would once again be the richest Nation in the middle east if not the entire world. So in my opinion, this is all feasible and for Keep and others to say "this is fact" or "that is fact" is just immature and without thought, it's all just speculation, they don't know, no one does, except the ones doing it.

Respectfully,

Will

To the contrary its actually with a lot of thought, research and logic that I say that....if you have only been here a shortt time then I will give you the benefit of the doubt because when I was new to this I thought the same thing....

But I kept reading and digging into this investment and currency in itself and looking into the numbers which I suggest you do as well....iraqs currency is severely inflated because of the years of hyperinflation they went through....one of the basic principles of having too much of something and it being worth less applies here.....they simply cannot jump back into the rates they once had 20 years ago and justify it and be able to back it up.....

When they had a 3 dollar rate they only had like 25 billion or so dinar in circulation....they now have over 24 trillion in circulation.....its too much....they need to reduce the money supply and increase their GDP.....

No immature thoughts here my friend.....that statement is without validity....

[umbertino]

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I am just pulling these numbers from my head

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That's what I call elegant

[firefighter_218546]

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I am just pulling these numbers from my head

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That's what I call elegant

Yup just pulling numbers from my head unlike the Guru's who pull the numbers from their arzzz

[jgreene]

Everyone needs to have a coke and a smile and let it revalue at what it will....no one really knows jack SHIOT about a date and rate....or if this is even going to happen period....if anyone had a clue they would not be on here jabbering....i am more stoked about Labor Day Weekend than the RV right now...football season starts, the weather is cooling off, and the smoker is cranked up....life is good

[umbertino]

Yup just pulling numbers from my head unlike the Guru's who pull the numbers from their arzzz

My point exactly...A plus for ya.

[MarqMarzz]

And the band played on

And I still do

[HappyVegas]

Nice!

Oh Alex (HappyVegas shakes her head).