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I listened the other day to a broadcast that revealed a strategy that had been compiled by a couple of socialist professor types on how to bring down the United States through debt accumulation and poor fiscal policies. The people presenting the documentation indicated that Obama is pretty much doing things according to their plan. Is it possible that Obama does not wish for the dinar to revalue and rescue the American economy (for a season anyway)? Lifting the debt ceiling would not have to be done in that eventuality - if the US truly has trillons of dinars. And raising the debt ceilng above the point where the govt can even make the interest payments on the debt seems to be the last nail in the coffin. Just thinking aloud here. From the peanut gallery, it does seem to me that a master scheme has been orchestrated to convert the US to socialism. The Trojan Horse has been pulled inside the gates of the city. Can even God stop it now? Watch the events unfold and be amazed. I sincerely hope one of them is the changing of the world economy through a dinar reval.

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I listened the other day to a broadcast that revealed a strategy that had been compiled by a couple of socialist professor types on how to bring down the United States through debt accumulation and poor fiscal policies. The people presenting the documentation indicated that Obama is pretty much doing things according to their plan. Is it possible that Obama does not wish for the dinar to revalue and rescue the American economy (for a season anyway)? Lifting the debt ceiling would not have to be done in that eventuality - if the US truly has trillons of dinars. And raising the debt ceilng above the point where the govt can even make the interest payments on the debt seems to be the last nail in the coffin. Just thinking aloud here. From the peanut gallery, it does seem to me that a master scheme has been orchestrated to convert the US to socialism. The Trojan Horse has been pulled inside the gates of the city. Can even God stop it now? Watch the events unfold and be amazed. I sincerely hope one of them is the changing of the world economy through a dinar reval.

You are more correct than you realize. Google the book "None Dare Call It Conspiracy". It's free to read online and it's only 100 pages. It lays out what's going on in this country.

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You are more correct than you realize. Google the book "None Dare Call It Conspiracy". It's free to read online and it's only 100 pages. It lays out what's going on in this country.

I don't have to Google it. I read the book 40 years ago when I was in college. A customer gave me a copy at the store where I worked. Interesting stuff - much of it hard to swallow - but I've seen plenty of evidence of the coming of a one-world government. It would be a Brave New World but wouldn't be a pretty world.

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I listened the other day to a broadcast that revealed a strategy that had been compiled by a couple of socialist professor types on how to bring down the United States through debt accumulation and poor fiscal policies. The people presenting the documentation indicated that Obama is pretty much doing things according to their plan. Is it possible that Obama does not wish for the dinar to revalue and rescue the American economy (for a season anyway)? Lifting the debt ceiling would not have to be done in that eventuality - if the US truly has trillons of dinars. And raising the debt ceilng above the point where the govt can even make the interest payments on the debt seems to be the last nail in the coffin. Just thinking aloud here. From the peanut gallery, it does seem to me that a master scheme has been orchestrated to convert the US to socialism. The Trojan Horse has been pulled inside the gates of the city. Can even God stop it now? Watch the events unfold and be amazed. I sincerely hope one of them is the changing of the world economy through a dinar reval.

ALL of the interesting conspiracies would be worth considering if there was any evidence that Obama is the one holding up the agreement on the budget deficit and debt ceiling, but if you follow the news, and listen to the debate, it's pretty clear that HE is actually furthest from being the holdup. It's not even a majority of the Republicans, but rather the new freshmen "Tea Party" members of Congress whom are steadfastly refusing to give ground. Obama seems open for nearly ANY resolution, with the exception of the slight increase in taxes on individuals making more than $250,000/year. This amounts to "at the most," $7,500 on those people, and mere "pennies" on multi-millionaires. He also reportedly refuses to cut funding for education, which would seem to be a no-brainer given the fact that our students have now fallen behind virtually every industrialized country in the world.

The Tea Party candidates "talk" a good game, but I've yet to hear them offer SOLUTIONS to the $15 TRILLION Dollar deficit. Money to operate a country has to come from SOMEWHERE, and it would seem that MOST of our leaders understand this. It's only a relatively small group which is obstructionist. Is the Tea Party trying to bring down the U.S. Economy? I kinda doubt it. It would seem more likely that they're trying to make a name for themselves, and they've found a great way to get attention. I'm not a big fan of EITHER party right now, but it seems pretty clear that neither of the big two are as unwilling to negotiate as is the Tea Party.

It's time that some of the very wealthy speak up and state that they'd be willing to pay a little more in taxes to help bring the country out of debt and to raise the educational standards of the U.S. In 8 short years, GWB managed to increased the deficit by 33% - almost 3 times more than any President in U.S. History. George senior was next at 13%. Very few seem to realize theses facts. Google THAT. ;)

Finally, there is ZERO proof that the debt ceiling debate is holding up the RV, or for that matter that our RV even EXISTS for that matter, except in the minds of the gurus and pumpers, and more importantly, in those who have been brainwashed to believe them. I fear that in 10 days or so, the debt issue will finally be resolved, and we'll discover that this was yet ANOTHER in the hundreds of excuses we've heard over the past 5 years for why the RV has not occurred. It would seem likely that the reason all of these Senators and Congressmen have "HEARD" about the Dinar RV is due to the fact that they've received tens of thousands of calls and e-mails regarding it from crazed Dinar investors. Unfortunately, the fact that they're "aware" of it doesn't mean that it's holding up negotiations, or even that it's REAL for that matter. We'll just have to wait and see......as always.

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ALL of the interesting conspiracies would be worth considering if there was any evidence that Obama is the one holding up the agreement on the budget deficit and debt ceiling, but if you follow the news, and listen to the debate, it's pretty clear that HE is actually furthest from being the holdup. It's not even a majority of the Republicans, but rather the new freshmen "Tea Party" members of Congress whom are steadfastly refusing to give ground. Obama seems open for nearly ANY resolution, with the exception of the slight increase in taxes on individuals making more than $250,000/year. This amounts to "at the most," $7,500 on those people, and mere "pennies" on multi-millionaires. He also reportedly refuses to cut funding for education, which would seem to be a no-brainer given the fact that our students have now fallen behind virtually every industrialized country in the world.

The Tea Party candidates "talk" a good game, but I've yet to hear them offer SOLUTIONS to the $15 TRILLION Dollar deficit. Money to operate a country has to come from SOMEWHERE, and it would seem that MOST of our leaders understand this. It's only a relatively small group which is obstructionist. Is the Tea Party trying to bring down the U.S. Economy? I kinda doubt it. It would seem more likely that they're trying to make a name for themselves, and they've found a great way to get attention. I'm not a big fan of EITHER party right now, but it seems pretty clear that neither of the big two are as unwilling to negotiate as is the Tea Party.

It's time that some of the very wealthy speak up and state that they'd be willing to pay a little more in taxes to help bring the country out of debt and to raise the educational standards of the U.S. In 8 short years, GWB managed to increased the deficit by 33% - almost 3 times more than any President in U.S. History. George senior was next at 13%. Very few seem to realize theses facts. Google THAT. ;)

Finally, there is ZERO proof that the debt ceiling debate is holding up the RV, or for that matter that our RV even EXISTS for that matter, except in the minds of the gurus and pumpers, and more importantly, in those who have been brainwashed to believe them. I fear that in 10 days or so, the debt issue will finally be resolved, and we'll discover that this was yet ANOTHER in the hundreds of excuses we've heard over the past 5 years for why the RV has not occurred. It would seem likely that the reason all of these Senators and Congressmen have "HEARD" about the Dinar RV is due to the fact that they've received tens of thousands of calls and e-mails regarding it from crazed Dinar investors. Unfortunately, the fact that they're "aware" of it doesn't mean that it's holding up negotiations, or even that it's REAL for that matter. We'll just have to wait and see......as always.

I'll cast the first vote for "most ignorant post 2011"

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Inbedded, got my vote! The Tea Party hasn't put forth any ideas? Paul Ryan's budget plan come to mind? Cut, Cap and Balance? This coming from someone who believes "it's just pennies" to them? Holy crap, what a skull full of mush. The Democrats haven't even put forth a BUDGET yet! The plan O had got ZERO votes from the Senate, ZERO, and that's a majority of Dems! And the nerve to bring up GWB's debt contributions! The country was in two wars coming after the internet bubble burst because Clinton stuck a pin in it. Didn't hear anything about O outspending Bush's 8 years in just 38 MONTHS!

Legolas, go back to fairy world and hug an Ent.

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Inbedded HorseHead said:

I'll cast the first vote for "most ignorant post 2011"

I'll have to second that HorseHead. I never thought I would actually see a liberal who cannot read the writings on the wall on this site. I gave you a +1

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I'll cast the first vote for "most ignorant post 2011"

Rather than calling it ignorant, why don't you CONTRIBUTE to the discussion by providing some evidence which refutes it. I just LOVE when the Kool Aid drinkers come out swinging when anyone says anything they don't want to hear, yet provide no proof to support their attack. Why not say something intelligent, or at least wait 10 days to see if we're all instant millionaires before bashing? Obama is fighting for his political future in this debate. If he were out to destroy the country, wouldn't he be wiser to let the others fight it out, and then come back later and say "I told you so?" His own party is angry with him for making TOO MANY concessions to the opposition, but somehow HE is the bad guy here. People need to wake up and listen to what's actually happening instead of what they WANT to hear. If the RV was truly tied to this debt ceiling battle, would we really be seeing this tense battle over every single issue by both parties when the RV itself would clearly solve the entire problem with money left over. If the U.S. actually holds 4 TRILLION Dinars, a $3 RV and the resulting tax revenues would literally wipe out the national debt overnight, would it not? Even a $1 RV would eliminate all of the problems for the near term. Do we really believe that the rest of the world, equally desperate for an influx of this type of money would stand by quietly while a few U.S. Politicians argue over the U.S. budget. I doubt it.

The debt ceiling will likely prove to be just another in the never-ending stream of excuses for the RV not occurring. Ramadan will be next, just as it's been every year that I've been waiting for the RV.

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Inbedded, got my vote! The Tea Party hasn't put forth any ideas? Paul Ryan's budget plan come to mind? Cut, Cap and Balance? This coming from someone who believes "it's just pennies" to them? Holy crap, what a skull full of mush. The Democrats haven't even put forth a BUDGET yet! The plan O had got ZERO votes from the Senate, ZERO, and that's a majority of Dems! And the nerve to bring up GWB's debt contributions! The country was in two wars coming after the internet bubble burst because Clinton stuck a pin in it. Didn't hear anything about O outspending Bush's 8 years in just 38 MONTHS!

Legolas, go back to fairy world and hug an Ent.

Wow i just cant believe it , we all know Bush bankrupted this country, probably Obama isnt much better , but he inherited this mess , we didnt have to be in two wars , we started two wars for no reason at all .

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Legolsa, do you even live in the USA? There is no way that you are an American citizen and actually believe what you

just said. Have you had your head in the sand for the past 4 years? Since the Democrats took over the Congress in 2006 things have

gone downhill. Yes, Bush did increase the deficit during his terms in office. Not very happy about that, even with two wars and a world

economy to prop up, we just spent to much money we didn't have. PERIOD. So what does your man, O, do in his first two years: DOUBLES

THE NATIONAL DEBT. In two years. Google it. He has added more to the national debt in two years than any other presidents in history.

IN TWO YEARS, not 8. The TEA PARTY was elected by a land slide to keep this MONSTER SPENDER in check. Just in case you didn't know

this, our country is broke. There is no compromise with broke. Drastic measures must be taken, and the TEA PARTY is willing to do exactly

that. You should be praising them, not doging them. Just my humble, educated opinion. By the way, I am one of those top 1% money earners

in the country and we are SICK and TIRED of paying MOST of the tax burden. Read the book ATLAS SHRUGGED. It will educate your very limited

mind as to the reality of the burden put on us and what is already happening in our country.

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@ op God can do anything including stop it now if it is his will........

@ legolas... ummm I think you are sadly mistaken. I go to work 7 days a week to run my business and work hard to make it sucessfull. I put food on the table and a roof over my kids heads and NO NO NO I DO NOT do that so that I can pay for the worthless folks that want to sit at home all day and play video games or smoke all the while collecting food stamps, Medicaid and housing. Do you have any idea how much I already have to pay for food, mortgage, and medical insurance I can guarantee you that I do not want to support some low life as well.

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Rather than calling it ignorant, why don't you CONTRIBUTE to the discussion by providing some evidence which refutes it. I just LOVE when the Kool Aid drinkers come out swinging when anyone says anything they don't want to hear, yet provide no proof to support their attack. Why not say something intelligent, or at least wait 10 days to see if we're all instant millionaires before bashing? Obama is fighting for his political future in this debate. If he were out to destroy the country, wouldn't he be wiser to let the others fight it out, and then come back later and say "I told you so?" His own party is angry with him for making TOO MANY concessions to the opposition, but somehow HE is the bad guy here. People need to wake up and listen to what's actually happening instead of what they WANT to hear. If the RV was truly tied to this debt ceiling battle, would we really be seeing this tense battle over every single issue by both parties when the RV itself would clearly solve the entire problem with money left over. If the U.S. actually holds 4 TRILLION Dinars, a $3 RV and the resulting tax revenues would literally wipe out the national debt overnight, would it not? Even a $1 RV would eliminate all of the problems for the near term. Do we really believe that the rest of the world, equally desperate for an influx of this type of money would stand by quietly while a few U.S. Politicians argue over the U.S. budget. I doubt it.

The debt ceiling will likely prove to be just another in the never-ending stream of excuses for the RV not occurring. Ramadan will be next, just as it's been every year that I've been waiting for the RV.

I agree with you all you have to do is mention George , the piece of crap ,W BUsh and the negatives start flying . people need to wake up and see WHo actually started the process of how the USA got into this mess

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Wow i just cant believe it , we all know Bush bankrupted this country, probably Obama isnt much better , but he inherited this mess , we didnt have to be in two wars , we started two wars for no reason at all .

WAKE UP!! It dosent matter who u vote for pres. doesent run that country. No conspiracy , just reality. THINK FOR YOUR SELF! Have the balls to make a decision for yourself and lay in that bed!

Sheeple? Ha Ha...... Herm....Not laughing at that term any more,its not funny any more.MAN-UP!!See reality. decide for yourself and dont let others to think for you. College has BRAINWASHED you to be sheeple,meditate,TURN OFF YOUR TV! BE ACCOUNTABLE , MAN UP!!! PISSD ME OFF MY WHOLE LIFE !

Sorry for the rant but sheeple comments make me vomit

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Sacramouche: Very interesting post, and I have to say something like this is going on. Either it is a conspiracy or Obama is the dumbest president we have ever had.

Legolas: If ignorance is bliss, you are the happiest person on the planet. Obama is the part of, and a major player of, the problem.

Editorial: Obama is the reason for the hold up and all his decisions are based on his political aspirations for re-election and not for the good of the country (same for the Pelosi/Reed faction in congress). The rank and file democrats and independents are coming to realize that the party leader elites direction for this country are out of touch (believing that government can solve all our problems). Quite frankly, so are many so called moderate republicans (see Mitt Romney, John McCain, et al). It is time for the common citizen and for Washington to put aside what is only important to them whether what can the government do for me (entitlements) and political aspirations (keeping their jobs), but rather do what is good for the country as a whole. The worst thing that can happen is for citizens whether democrats, republicans, and independents to check out of the political process as this would leave the country at the mercy of the current idiot leadership in Washington. We as citizens of this great country do need to make sure that we vote out anyone in Washington that is not doing what is for the good of the country. The problem is no longer democrat or republican, but the personages that are in Washington making compromises that are good for them politically, but damaging to this country.

All of us as citizens of this great country need to reassess, recommit and reenergize to set this country on a correct course. What is the correct course? Returning to what made this country great in the first place, that being, Constitutional government that does not burdent the citizenry, but facilitates free-market economy which will give all citizens what the Constitution of these United States guarantees and that is the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...the Constitution was not designed to make this happen for the individual, but rather for the individual tto live and have the freedom to pursue happiness (whether in riches or in life style or whatever) to the extent it does not harm someone (i.e. if someone is happy robbing people that person is not protected by the Constitution to pursue this).

Government cannot save this country, but the citizens can, and I believe will...

Wayne

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Legolas, you want a CONTRIBUTION. STOP SPENDING MONEY WE DON"T HAVE. PERIOD. Balance our budget every year.

If you do not have the money in your checking account to pay for a program, don't commit to the program. Simple as that. It is NOT the responsibility

of our government to provide for all of the wants of every person in our country. Recognize how I didn't say citizen. You don't even have to be a

citizen to get "free stuff" in our country. The madness stops now. Why is it simple for us as citizens to balance our budget, but not our government

leaders?

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Legolsa, do you even live in the USA? There is no way that you are an American citizen and actually believe what you

just said. Have you had your head in the sand for the past 4 years? Since the Democrats took over the Congress in 2006 things have

gone downhill. Yes, Bush did increase the deficit during his terms in office. Not very happy about that, even with two wars and a world

economy to prop up, we just spent to much money we didn't have. PERIOD. So what does your man, O, do in his first two years: DOUBLES

THE NATIONAL DEBT. In two years. Google it. He has added more to the national debt in two years than any other presidents in history.

IN TWO YEARS, not 8. The TEA PARTY was elected by a land slide to keep this MONSTER SPENDER in check. Just in case you didn't know

this, our country is broke. There is no compromise with broke. Drastic measures must be taken, and the TEA PARTY is willing to do exactly

that. You should be praising them, not doging them. Just my humble, educated opinion. By the way, I am one of those top 1% money earners

in the country and we are SICK and TIRED of paying MOST of the tax burden. Read the book ATLAS SHRUGGED. It will educate your very limited

mind as to the reality of the burden put on us and what is already happening in our country.

The debt has increased 9% under the Obama administration - big numbers, no doubt. But the stimulus package was approved by Congress, not "imposed" by Obama, and where might we be today had they not passed that bill. Is there doubt that this country was on the verge of a depression larger than that of 1929 when he took office ? Maybe they should have sat back and waited to see what would have happened, but that wouldn't seem to be the prudent decision. And where is the evidence that the top 1% of the money earners pay MOST of the tax burden? While the top bracket "in theory" is supposed to pay proportionately higher taxes, and some probably do, but in practice, due to loopholes and deductions, many of the wealthy pay very little in terms oft final percentages of income.

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ALL of the interesting conspiracies would be worth considering if there was any evidence that Obama is the one holding up the agreement on the budget deficit and debt ceiling, but if you follow the news, and listen to the debate, it's pretty clear that HE is actually furthest from being the holdup. It's not even a majority of the Republicans, but rather the new freshmen "Tea Party" members of Congress whom are steadfastly refusing to give ground. Obama seems open for nearly ANY resolution, with the exception of the slight increase in taxes on individuals making more than $250,000/year. This amounts to "at the most," $7,500 on those people, and mere "pennies" on multi-millionaires. He also reportedly refuses to cut funding for education, which would seem to be a no-brainer given the fact that our students have now fallen behind virtually every industrialized country in the world.

The Tea Party candidates "talk" a good game, but I've yet to hear them offer SOLUTIONS to the $15 TRILLION Dollar deficit. Money to operate a country has to come from SOMEWHERE, and it would seem that MOST of our leaders understand this. It's only a relatively small group which is obstructionist. Is the Tea Party trying to bring down the U.S. Economy? I kinda doubt it. It would seem more likely that they're trying to make a name for themselves, and they've found a great way to get attention. I'm not a big fan of EITHER party right now, but it seems pretty clear that neither of the big two are as unwilling to negotiate as is the Tea Party.

It's time that some of the very wealthy speak up and state that they'd be willing to pay a little more in taxes to help bring the country out of debt and to raise the educational standards of the U.S. In 8 short years, GWB managed to increased the deficit by 33% - almost 3 times more than any President in U.S. History. George senior was next at 13%. Very few seem to realize theses facts. Google THAT. ;)

Finally, there is ZERO proof that the debt ceiling debate is holding up the RV, or for that matter that our RV even EXISTS for that matter, except in the minds of the gurus and pumpers, and more importantly, in those who have been brainwashed to believe them. I fear that in 10 days or so, the debt issue will finally be resolved, and we'll discover that this was yet ANOTHER in the hundreds of excuses we've heard over the past 5 years for why the RV has not occurred. It would seem likely that the reason all of these Senators and Congressmen have "HEARD" about the Dinar RV is due to the fact that they've received tens of thousands of calls and e-mails regarding it from crazed Dinar investors. Unfortunately, the fact that they're "aware" of it doesn't mean that it's holding up negotiations, or even that it's REAL for that matter. We'll just have to wait and see......as always.

Some very good points above. You can't blame this on Obama alone. This is politics at its finest (worst!). Both sides have to agree to move forward. Just like the mess we are in. Both parties are to blame. They just got us here with different approaches. The whole notion of conspiracy is just a label. If you are Christian you know that we are headed for a one world system. If you are not it is nonetheless obvious. It is a conspiracy only in the sense that the proponents to a one world system at the highest levels tend to let others do their bidding while remaining in the background. The challenge with getting the very richest to agree to helping out is that many of them are involved in global business and their allegiance is more to themselves than to their country. There is a spirit of greed that is not going away.

In regards to the last paragraph, if any proof is ever offered it will be after the fact. Gurus aside, there is, however, plenty of circumstantial evidence that makes such thinking VERY plausible. After all our country has been through with Iraq, it would be harder for me to believe that we aren't sitting on a bunch of dinar than that we are.

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Legolas, you are right it was actually imposed by Congress, a democratically controlled congress ... it is the elite multimillionaire democratic party leaders (congressment, senators and president) who are responsible for this mess...they caused it by spending spending spending, rather that cutting and slashing and fixing the problem. The problem has been a long time coming, but without a doubt the democratically controlled legislature and executive branches spent 2 years making it worse.

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Legolas, you want a CONTRIBUTION. STOP SPENDING MONEY WE DON"T HAVE. PERIOD. Balance our budget every year.

If you do not have the money in your checking account to pay for a program, don't commit to the program. Simple as that. It is NOT the responsibility

of our government to provide for all of the wants of every person in our country. Recognize how I didn't say citizen. You don't even have to be a

citizen to get "free stuff" in our country. The madness stops now. Why is it simple for us as citizens to balance our budget, but not our government

leaders?

I agree with you JKSA, but WHERE would you make those cuts? Wouldn't it seem logical that if it were feasible, it would have been accomplished by now? The largest expenditures are inarguably in Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security? How do you make those cuts, and how many people are going to stand for it? HUGE mistakes have been made by allowing the deficit to increase both gradually and in large increments. Those mistakes aren't going to be repaired in a period of 4 years. Unfortunately it's much easier for you and I to balance our checkbooks than it is for the U.S. Government - especially now, but there was in fact a budget surplus in 2000.

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ALL of the interesting conspiracies would be worth considering if there was any evidence that Obama is the one holding up the agreement on the budget deficit and debt ceiling, but if you follow the news, and listen to the debate, it's pretty clear that HE is actually furthest from being the holdup. It's not even a majority of the Republicans, but rather the new freshmen "Tea Party" members of Congress whom are steadfastly refusing to give ground. Obama seems open for nearly ANY resolution, with the exception of the slight increase in taxes on individuals making more than $250,000/year. This amounts to "at the most," $7,500 on those people, and mere "pennies" on multi-millionaires. He also reportedly refuses to cut funding for education, which would seem to be a no-brainer given the fact that our students have now fallen behind virtually every industrialized country in the world.

The Tea Party candidates "talk" a good game, but I've yet to hear them offer SOLUTIONS to the $15 TRILLION Dollar deficit. Money to operate a country has to come from SOMEWHERE, and it would seem that MOST of our leaders understand this. It's only a relatively small group which is obstructionist. Is the Tea Party trying to bring down the U.S. Economy? I kinda doubt it. It would seem more likely that they're trying to make a name for themselves, and they've found a great way to get attention. I'm not a big fan of EITHER party right now, but it seems pretty clear that neither of the big two are as unwilling to negotiate as is the Tea Party.

It's time that some of the very wealthy speak up and state that they'd be willing to pay a little more in taxes to help bring the country out of debt and to raise the educational standards of the U.S. In 8 short years, GWB managed to increased the deficit by 33% - almost 3 times more than any President in U.S. History. George senior was next at 13%. Very few seem to realize theses facts. Google THAT. ;)

Finally, there is ZERO proof that the debt ceiling debate is holding up the RV, or for that matter that our RV even EXISTS for that matter, except in the minds of the gurus and pumpers, and more importantly, in those who have been brainwashed to believe them. I fear that in 10 days or so, the debt issue will finally be resolved, and we'll discover that this was yet ANOTHER in the hundreds of excuses we've heard over the past 5 years for why the RV has not occurred. It would seem likely that the reason all of these Senators and Congressmen have "HEARD" about the Dinar RV is due to the fact that they've received tens of thousands of calls and e-mails regarding it from crazed Dinar investors. Unfortunately, the fact that they're "aware" of it doesn't mean that it's holding up negotiations, or even that it's REAL for that matter. We'll just have to wait and see......as always.

Legolas, please ilustrate yourself before you come with this ridiculous analysis, you deserve to be in the same party as "O". I will second Inbedded HorseHead motion of the most ignorant post (person).

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I listened the other day to a broadcast that revealed a strategy that had been compiled by a couple of socialist professor types on how to bring down the United States through debt accumulation and poor fiscal policies. The people presenting the documentation indicated that Obama is pretty much doing things according to their plan. Is it possible that Obama does not wish for the dinar to revalue and rescue the American economy (for a season anyway)? Lifting the debt ceiling would not have to be done in that eventuality - if the US truly has trillons of dinars. And raising the debt ceilng above the point where the govt can even make the interest payments on the debt seems to be the last nail in the coffin. Just thinking aloud here. From the peanut gallery, it does seem to me that a master scheme has been orchestrated to convert the US to socialism. The Trojan Horse has been pulled inside the gates of the city. Can even God stop it now? Watch the events unfold and be amazed. I sincerely hope one of them is the changing of the world economy through a dinar reval.

IMO, this has been the plan with O from the beginning. Soros and his league of America haters have been pulling O's strings to bring this country down aided by a GOP that needs to get a spine! And we, in our complacency, are letting it happen...... At what point do current actions by the WH become treason?

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