Confessions of an Anonymous Pumper

[shuzammy]

Confessions of an Anonymous Pumper - Exposing the Elaborate Scheme

IF I were a pumper, how I would do it, why I would do it, and how you could stop me!

BEGIN CONFESSION --

A few months ago I began to acquire user accounts at various forums... a new one every couple days. I keep track of them on a Google spreadsheet. Each day I log into previously created accounts from various IP addresses which I access through third party services and/or a server I maintain with a big hosting company. This is to avoid suspicion and detection. Each day I add a post or two to each account, nothing special, often just agreeing with another user's comments, adding some blurb ending in "GO RV!!!", or thanking a fellow poster for their contribution, which essentially adds to my efforts.

The reason I add these innocuous posts is to let the accounts "cure". I learned early on that a newbie post is not taken as serious as a user who's been around and contributed to the forum for a while. After posting the day's red herrings, I log into one of the cured accounts on each forum and post an unverifiable rumor that I've worked out that morning or the night before. I've learned how to mix up random details with current news and articles along with previous user comments making the rumors sound more believable as time goes by.

I post a different rumor in each forum. Human nature takes over and other users cross-pollinate my rumors to other forums so the IP addresses and user names are even more varied. They even add their own color sometimes which is always fun to read. People also post to their private and group email lists, which invariably get forwarded to friends and family. I figure one good pump gets read by nearly a hundred thousand people within 24 hours resulting in tens to hundreds more speculators - depending on the quality of the rumor. The rumors typically consist of hearsay... he said, she said, a friend in the service or a family in the middle east said, and of course everyone's favorite... bank rumors. Whatever the case, I try to give it a little salt of truth but leave it completely unverifiable.

Since I've started doing this, its added hundreds of orders a day and created more sales in the last few months than all the years prior. Most people can't imagine how easy it is for one person to do all this pumping. I don't know if anyone noticed but the bulk of unverifiable rumors started about the same time reserve contracts showed up on the scene. Consider, people rarely pay off their contracts in 30 days, they just get a new one. People are sending hundreds of dollars daily and no Dinar is actually being traded. Yes, I know, technically speaking this is fraud..."intentional deception resulting in injury to another person".

So how do you stop me? Here's an idea... anytime an unverifiable rumor is posted, delete it and ban the user (without exception)! Make the rules clear. If the user is real and they made a mistake, they can always appeal to a moderator or admin. Any rumors should be sent to the moderator or admin and they can post it from there if they choose. Its this easy. Its probably the best way to protect forum members from pumping. All you have to worry about then is the mods and admins and I would say if you've heard them on the phone and think they sound sincere, they probably are, but that doesn't mean their sources are...

-- END CONFESSION

WARNING: THE ABOVE IS NOT AN ACTUAL CONFESSION. IT IS A FICTION FROM THIS WRITER'S PERSPECTIVE, THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE FAR FROM FACT. FORUM MODS AND ADMINS BEWARE.

NOTE: None of this is to say that speculation of the IQD RI/RV is a scam but I wanted people to consider just how easy they could be taken by someone who was nameless, tech savvy, and had much to gain. This is not to besmirch any particular trader of Dinar. Its just something to think about and I hope you will consider it the next time you read an unverifiable rumor. Mods and admins might consider protecting their users from these antics by adopting the suggested policy.

[Keipher]

Yup, I too have often thought how easy it would be. Unfortunately I have no one willing to pay me for my effort, so I wait for the RV just like everyone else.

Now if we can only use our cleverness for good, instead of evil...

[Soldier]

The only way a person can scam me is if I allow it. I have been on to you so call pumpers since the beginning. Rumors that are posted like the example above without a follow up puts a head light on your screen name. Trust me when I tell you that I have gotten about a thousand ( - ) when I call you guys out. There's the gullible people that are all thanking you and massaging your ego, but, when things don't work out, they are the same people that scream and hollar. If you don't mind me calling you a liar than I have no problem with what your doing. Basically trying to make yourself a buck.

Where my problem lies is with the american people who feel like following people like you instead of doing their own work. Those are the people who bring down this site. I can make my own decisions.

[detroitjazzman]

Waaaay tooooooooooo much time on your hands. just saying

[Dee1]

I think pumping is bad. It has heart me and now I think these Dinar cites are becoming useless. I come here to know what is going on not to be lied to. This is not very christian like.

Edited January 17, 2011 by Dee1

[amal]

Sorry but this post cracks me up. "anytime an unverifiable rumor is posted, delete it and ban the user" What is an unverifiable rumor? The very definition of a rumor is it is unverifiable. This board seems to be getting more and more negative towards those that share info. Is some of it either made up or so misconstrued by the time it is posted that is complete bs. Yes, of course but if all you want to read is the news then stick to the news section.

[vette6367]

GET A REAL JOB.....

[NotReallyTex]

Bumper Sticker For JesusFreak

But not everyone is as tough as you and I am

[dinardarius]

Yes Sir ! I thank you for all your wonderful fake rumors -- they bring me joy every day ---- they'er so clever sometimes I laugh out loud for minutes even. Keep up the good work and we will have our book ready in no time at all ! Titled "WE PUMPED YOU UP"

"LEGEND OF THE DINAR" By DARIUS

Edited January 17, 2011 by dinardarius

[dirtman_00]

Even the BULL$**T is BULL$**T

[Happy Man]

I am so tired of earing the word pumpers....

Imagine that I am a reputable Dinar trader and someone approches me saying I am going to boost ur sale by spreading false rumors.

will you give me a cut for all sales over xxxx Dinars each month?

The next thing I would do is call the police.

because most reputable traders will do more money after the RV than they are doing now by selling them.

anyway I think I am getting burned out not from owning dinars but reading some the stuff.

[masterdinar]

The philosophy that seems to work best for scammers and pumpers is to just ignore their posting...no one respond at all. "That which you feed grows."

I was thinking as I was reading the OP in this thread of the book by O. J. Simpson it was written on how he would have done the murder if he actually did it. Many think it was an actual confession.

"If I Did It, Confessions of a Killer"

[E. 1999]

I believe Alot of you'd people have wahehay to much time on talks hands. Girls love smiley faces

[elv780]

Yes we do love smiley faces.

[havasumom]

Pumpers make the world go round love or hate it i guess lol . GO RV

[Basilthyme]

Genius post imo.

Has anyone considered that Iraqi's may be doing to pumping to keep IQD demand, and therefore the exchange rate, high?

[Incountry]

Nice.

When Cookie finishes his book that he is writing… you will see the same info. He has screen names in some cases real names. He has the dealers that they are linked to and in some cases the “Per Time Period Cut” (THE MONEY$$$$).

Cookie’s brother at one time quit his job and was very well off just working these dealers pumping on just about every site that is involved with the dinar for the dealers.

SO IT IS REAL… I HAVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND…

Cookie now is fact finding old information from his brother’s ledger/diary and documenting new pumpers. I am sure it is going to be a fun read. Cookies brother is no longer with us but shared this with cookie days before his passing.

Cookie took over for his brother (without the dealers knowing) and pretty much is getting first hand proof of the dealers fun and games to make money… and they are making a lot of it. Cookie has even put out that he took over on the forums in place of his brother… and the dealers still can’t figure out who is their rouge friend is… ha ha ha.

I don’t think that pumpers should be banned… I just think they should be “labeled” and the “No Bashing Rule” should not apply to them.

I also think that someone that posts information that they aren't sure is real... should be allowed to be bashed too. Why post crap if you don't even believe it yourself?

Edited January 18, 2011 by Incountry

[Realdinar]

surely no one actually, well i really hope no one actually believes the "my cousin from syria just got off the phone with a fedex driver in moscow, who is related to a high up board member of the imf.." type intel. This is just entertainment. I Dont take these type of posts seriously.

However I did enjoy the confession, very creative! Four stars!

[G Zam]

good post

[quadraph0nic]

I agree with everyone on this post, if your too lazy to research stuff on your own and make up your own mind then the pumpers are there for you.

[paj1985]

The pumpers work for the dealers,so go to a bank, youdont see our banks dragging you in to buy some dinar. In fact quite the opposite,the pumpers tell me that nobody really knows anything worth knowing about the rv its pure speculation and could go either way at this point.the difference is that there making ££s either way.

[pureau79]

Genius post imo.

Has anyone considered that Iraqi's may be doing to pumping to keep IQD demand, and therefore the exchange rate, high?

So, if 1170 is "high", what would you suppose low would be otherwise, 3000?

Confessions of an Anonymous Pumper - Exposing the Elaborate Scheme

IF I were a pumper, how I would do it, why I would do it, and how you could stop me!

BEGIN CONFESSION --

...So how do you stop me? Here's an idea... anytime an unverifiable rumor is posted, delete it and ban the user (without exception)! Make the rules clear. If the user is real and they made a mistake, they can always appeal to a moderator or admin. Any rumors should be sent to the moderator or admin and they can post it from there if they choose. Its this easy. Its probably the best way to protect forum members from pumping.

It is clear that your critical thinking skills are intact. So why can't you figure out how harmful the "nanny-state" is to free commerce? We don't need to be protected. What we need has been stated here many times already, and that is to excercise discernment and discretion. You know, practice the same skills you used to come up with this elaborate scheme. Besides, the moderators probably all feel as though they have enough to do without approving rumours...

[BanG]

WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK WE NEED PROTECTION FROM SOMETHING OR OTHER? IF YOU BOUGHT DINAR THEN IT IS YOUR DECISION AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, SCAM ME LIKE THAT ANY DAY. MOST OF US KNOW HOW THIS WILL TURN OUT AND THOSE WHO DID BY WILL NOT BE SORRY.

I DONT KNOW ABOUT OTHERS BUT I AM A BIG BOY NOW AND I CAN PRETTY MUCH TAKE CARE OF MYSELF.

Agreed. When I purchased my Dinars years ago I wrote a "Hypothetical" Budget / plan and based that on an RV of 3.00. I went so far as to speak with my attorney and CPA. After that me just sits and watch....lol. Who knows.

[wbuse984]

Bumper Sticker For JesusFreak

But not everyone is as tough as you and I am

LOVE YOUR POST!!!

No matter what you do, there is the truth of P.T. Barnum "there is a sucker born everyday", everyone needs to do their own research and invest what they think is right. If someone use funds they don't really have (i.e. needed for necessities) to spend on this investment, they shouldn't do it and are responsible for their OWN actions. Personally, I am tired of the victim mentality that permeates society these days...JMHO (sorry for the vented spleen)...

[virginialadybug]

shuzammy,

You can forget the mods, admins, or owners of dinar sites ever doing anything about pumpers because many of them are getting kickbacks when people order more dinar . It's the new people I feel sorry for who don't know any better. It is the way of the world we live in - each person will have to reap what they sow.

wbuse984,

Perhaps not everyone is as smart and worldly as you. Even weak minded people would like to improve their lot in life.