The Chinese Balloon

[md11fr8dawg]

3 hours ago, dinardiggerisme said:

The balloon is the perfect EMP delivery device from what I am hearing. There are plenty more balloons ready and waiting at the North Pole. A couple dozen of them could knock out every computer device in the US above ground...that is exactly why i keep my 1988 7.3 liter F-350  diesel truck. .no computer in that baby. Got a carbuerated dirt bike just in case. The  ChiComs ain't playing around people. lol

 

The answer to 1984 IS 1776!

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Got my 1984 F-150 at the ready also. Ditch the cell phones and where is he???

[Pitcher]

Nothing to see here.  Just a weather ballon!!

 

[Pitcher]

He’s a troublemaker. Or is he just a weather balloon?  
 

Woody got shot down too!! 😆 

[Pitcher]

Balloons are always a sign of trouble.  
 

 

I know, the Chinese Ballon is a serious breach of our air space and our President should have knocked it out of the air immediately. We don’t know all the particulars yet so allow me a little levity.   I apologize to those who don’t like this trio of tweets.  

[CSM (R) Thack]

[Synopsis]

47 minutes ago, md11fr8dawg said:

DAMN you NAILED it girl!! Good Job!!

WHOOPS!!!

 

 

Yeah, I made the gender mistake some time ago, too!!!

 

Some folks can best the best of us!!!

 

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SEMPER FI DO OR DIE!!!

[caddieman]

7 hours ago, Smokey Mtn. Dinar said:

It dropped in elevation to around 1,000 feet. Almost like China is saying they don't  care if we can see it now.   Daring us to do something. 😡 

 

IMPEACH Biden! 

1000 feet LMAO. Where ever you are getting your news from…………….STOP!

Edited February 5, 2023 by caddieman

[caddieman]

What an absolute dumb azz. Following the recommendations of the top brass of the military not to shoot the ballon down over populated areas of the US not knowing what the balloon might have on board. How dare he  take the American people lives as a priority. How dare he shoot down the balloon in the safest place possible. How dare he shoot a balloon down in a place where it’s the best place possible to recover intact the package it was carrying…………now if he nuked a hurricane……..that’s good stuff there! And really really smart!
Now Pitcher ……………..that’s what I call  agitating.😉

[Pitcher]

I'll bet that balloon would have never gotten close to American air space if President Trump was in office.  

 

Yes Biden is a dumb azz and a very dangerous person to be in charge.  

[Markinsa]

https://truthsocial.com/@Spiderflipflops/posts/109809525993049340

 

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Replying to @ChristopherVivona and @Kash

 

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[jg1]

10 minutes ago, Markinsa said:

https://truthsocial.com/@Spiderflipflops/posts/109809525993049340

 

spider flip flops

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Replying to @ChristopherVivona and @Kash

 

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Thats why they blew it out of the sky to distroy the evidence. Overkill!

[Pitcher]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11713667/Biden-knew-China-spy-balloon-airspace-nearly-WEEK.html
 

[Pitcher]

😄

[Pitcher]

Let’s try that again

 

https://twitter.com/egaraad_/status/1622000287824203777/mediaviewer

[bigwave]

Oh Good Grief. US Military Fears China May Reach Balloon Wreckage Before They Can Get There – Proper Salvage Vessel Won’t Be There For Days

Now the US military is concerned they may not reach the balloon wreckage before China can. The balloon was shot down 6 miles off the coast of Carolina. They can’t be serious, except that they are.

 

 

The US military will not have a proper salvage vessel at the scene for several days.

These clowns are making a mockery of the United States.

 

How to destroy a superpower in two years or less.

** Open Borders
** Wild inflation
** Excessive spending
** Arming the Taliban
** Turning your backs on Afghan allies
** Bow to Chinese
** Create a domestic energy crisis,
** Keep the same clowns in charge of military who just surrendered to 10th century barbarians
** Promote nuclear war with Russia

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/oh-good-grief-us-military-fears-china-may-reach-balloon-wreckage-can-get-proper-salvage-vessel-wont-days/

[yota691]

The first comment from Beijing regarding America's downing of the Chinese airship

2023.02.05 - 08:04

 

Baghdad - Nas   

Beijing on Sunday criticized the Pentagon's decision to shoot down a Chinese balloon that Washington suspects is for espionage purposes and was detected over North America, accusing the United States of "overreacting and seriously violating international practices."  

  

  

  

"China expresses strong indignation and protests against the use of force by the United States to attack the unmanned civilian airship," the Chinese Foreign Ministry said in a statement, stressing that it "reserves the right to make further necessary responses."  

  

Washington said it suspected it was a Chinese spy balloon, which was shot down by a US fighter jet off the coast of South Carolina on Saturday, a week after it entered US airspace.  

  

On Saturday, the US military, on orders from President Joe Biden, shot down the Chinese balloon that had flown for days over the United States, causing great tension between Washington and Beijing.  

  

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in a statement that an F-22 fighter jet shot down the balloon "in airspace over the coast of South Carolina."  

  

Austin added that the operation was in response to an "unacceptable violation of our sovereignty". The Pentagon assesses that the balloon is intended for "espionage" purposes.  

  

The minister confirmed that the airship was "used by the People's Republic of China in an effort to monitor strategic locations" in the United States.  

  

The President congratulated the army on its success in carrying out the accurate projection operation.  

  

Biden said he gave the order Wednesday to shoot down the balloon "as soon as possible," but the Pentagon wanted to wait "until it was in the safest place to do so" to avoid any possible damage from falling debris.  

  

Operations are underway to recover the wreckage of the airship, with the participation of divers, and a senior military official said that the wreckage fell into shallow waters, which "will make it very easy."  

  

At the time of its downing, the balloon was 18 km above sea level and 11 km from the coast, according to Pentagon officials.  

  

Prior to the operation, the US Civil Aviation Regulatory Authority announced the suspension of air traffic at three airports in the southeastern United States as part of a "national security" measure. Air traffic resumed soon after the end of the operation.  

  

Quoted from "Reuters"  

[yota691]

8 hours ago, bigwave said:

Oh Good Grief. US Military Fears China May Reach Balloon Wreckage Before They Can Get There – Proper Salvage Vessel Won’t Be There For Days

I doubt that, I literally watch this happen, between the multiple fighter jets in the air, they had remained in sight till it drop. So I'm gonna have to call this out as BS...

[DanP]

Trojan Horse.  

Joe failed. 

 

Edited February 5, 2023 by DanP

[caddieman]

14 hours ago, Pitcher said:

I'll bet that balloon would have never gotten close to American air space if President Trump was in office.  

 

Yes Biden is a dumb azz and a very dangerous person to be in charge.  

REVEALED: Three Chinese spy balloons infiltrated the US during Trump administration but he NEVER shot them down or told the public - as Republicans call for Biden to resign for putting Americans at risk

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714657/Three-Chinese-spy-balloons-infiltrated-Trump-administration.html

 

Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times during the Trump administration, officials say.

https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2

 

So I guess you could say Trump is three times as dangerous…….3 to 1. So one President let 3 go by and one President shot one down in a safe manner. Who’s more dangerous? We won’t even get into trying to illegal stay in power and over rule the constitution of the United States. 

[yota691]

 

 

[coorslite21]

15 minutes ago, caddieman said:

REVEALED: Three Chinese spy balloons infiltrated the US during Trump administration but he NEVER shot them down or told the public - as Republicans call for Biden to resign for putting Americans at risk

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714657/Three-Chinese-spy-balloons-infiltrated-Trump-administration.html

 

Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times during the Trump administration, officials say.

https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2

 

So I guess you could say Trump is three times as dangerous…….3 to 1. So one President let 3 go by and one President shot one down in a safe manner. Who’s more dangerous? We won’t even get into trying to illegal stay in power and over rule the constitution of the United States. 

 

One of the MSM reports I saw said there were 30 during Trumps 4 years....

(The MSM is huge in the internal issues the US faces)

 

At 60,000 ft  general aviation would easily see these and report them....over any course of time

 

The MSM would have never hidden this during the Trump years.

 

Everyone can form their own opinions. The bottom line is do American citizens believe it is acceptable to have a Chinese Balloon  violate the sovereign air space going cross country at 60,000 ft in altitude?

 

CL

 

 

[coorslite21]

An international publication:

 

https://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/?p=223719

 

 

 

 

  

February 5, 2023 2:16 Pm

BOMBSHELL – U.S. MADE A WORLD LAUGHING STOCK – BY A HI-TECH CHINESE BALLOON TRAVELLING ACROSS ITS ‘SOVEREIGN LAND’ – AND BIDEN & CO DIDN’T HAVE THE KNOW-HOW OR GUTS TO BRING IN DOWN – AWW, SHUCKS… XI EXACTS MAGNIFICENT ‘REVENGE’ ON BIDEN & THE RABID ANTI-CHINA GANG IN U.S. FOR NANCY PELOSI VISIT BUT WITH A POTENTIALLY ‘LETHAL’ EDGE – THE BALLOON IS NOT ONLY SO ADVANCED THE U.S. CAN’T REPLICATE ONE – & FOR SURE, IT LOOKS VERY CAPABLE OF CARRYING MUCH MORE ‘DAMAGING’ MATERIAL THAN 82-YEAR-OLD NANCY PELOSI – SO TO ARROGANT BUT ALL MIXED-UP-IN-THE-BRAIN AMERICANS, DON’T GO CHALLENGING CHINA’S SOVEREIGNTY OVER TAIWAN IF YOU DON’T WANT YOURS TO BE SIMILARLY TESTED

When Spymaster Being Spied – U.S. Furious After A Chinese Spy Balloon Invades American Sovereignty

For as long as one can remember, the United States has been sending surveillance planes to spy on China. In the past, the Chinese were powerless against the mighty U.S. Air Force. As China’s military technology improves tremendously, it becomes increasingly harder for the U.S. spy planes to violate, let alone penetrate the Chinese airspace without being chased away.

In fact, a Chinese fighter jet flew within six metres (20 feet) of a U.S. Air Force surveillance plane over the hotly contested South China Sea in December 2022, leading to complaints by the U.S. that the Chinese J-11 fighter was performing an “unsafe” manoeuvre. As usual, the U.S. claimed its spy plane was flying “lawfully” while conducting routine operations in international airspace.

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The playbook is such that whenever American surveillance planes are intercepted spying on China, the Chinese warplanes are always accused of flying “dangerously” close to the U.S. plane. On the other hand, the U.S. spy planes will always be portrayed as doing its jobs legally and professionally. Somehow, the U.S. is always the victim while China is always the aggressor.

So, when a huge balloon, which the Pentagon believed to be a Chinese surveillance balloon entered American airspace, it immediately triggered alarm. Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said – “The U.S. government has detected and is tracking a high-altitude surveillance balloon that is flying over the continental United States right now. NORAD continues to track and monitor it closely”.

http://www.financetwitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Malmstrom-Air-Force-Base-Montana.jpg

The fact that NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command), Pentagon and President Joe Biden were scrambled to decide what to do with a balloon flying across the continental United States speaks volumes about the level of panic in Washington. Even The Canadian Department of National Defence and the Canadian Armed Forces are working with the U.S. to assess the situation.

First spotted over Montana on Thursday (Feb 2), US officials have said the flight path of the balloon suggests it could potentially fly over a “number of sensitive sites”, forcing the U.S. to take steps to “protect against foreign intelligence collection”. Montana Republican Rep. Ryan Zinke tweeted – “The Chinese spy balloon is clear provocation. In Montana we do not bow. Shoot it down.”

Matt Rosendale, another Montana Republican representative, furiously wrote – “It’s unacceptable to allow communist China to invade our airspace – this is another clear example of Chinese aggression. President Biden must start putting the American people first and recognize that China is a threat to our freedom, values and way of life.”

Likewise, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy requested a “Gang of Eight” briefing on the Chinese balloon. The so-called “Gang of Eight” refers to the top House and Senate leaders, as well as the heads of the intelligence committees in each chamber. Others top Republican and Democrat politicians have cried that the balloon represented a “violation of American sovereignty.”

But Biden has refused to give the order to shoot down the balloon, despite the fact that Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana is home to one of only three nuclear missile silo fields in the country. While the balloon was probably collecting information over sensitive sites, military leaders have advised against shooting it down because of the danger that falling debris might pose to people on the ground.

http://www.financetwitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/US-President-Joe-Biden-Clueless.jpg

Apparently, the defence department claims that the balloon – the size of three buses – does not pose “significant threat” to the U.S. or compromise U.S. intelligence because American officials “know exactly where this balloon is and exactly where it’s passing over”. Pentagon also said the balloon was unlikely to give much more information than China can already collect using satellites.

Initially, Beijing has not directly acknowledged or denied that the balloon belongs to China. Its foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning merely said Beijing is currently attempting to verify the reports of the surveillance balloon, saying – “China is a responsible country and always abides strictly by international law. We have no intention of violating the territory or airspace of any sovereign country.”

Global Times, an English-language Chinese newspaper which is the mouthpiece of the Chinese government, took the opportunity to mock and ridicule the U.S. – “If balloons from other countries could really enter continental US smoothly, or even enter the sky over certain states, it only proves that the US’s air defence system is completely a decoration and cannot be trusted.”

 

 

On Friday, however, China’s Foreign Ministry said the balloon, which flew over the Aleutian Islands and through Canada before moving into U.S. airspace, is indeed belongs to China. Its website says – “The airship is from China. It is a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes. Affected by the Westerlies and with limited self-steering capability, the airship deviated far from its planned course.”

The Beijing foreign ministry further said – “The Chinese side regrets the unintended entry of the airship into US airspace due to ‘force majeure’. The Chinese side will continue communicating with the US side and properly handle this unexpected situation caused by force majeure.” For the weather research balloon to be blown off course some 6,000 miles away from China is quite hilarious.

http://www.financetwitter.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/China-Spy-Balloon-Invades-US-Airspace-Possible-Route.jpg

 But there’s nothing Washington can do even if the Chinese story does not make any sense. The U.S. military similarly has used high-altitude balloons to conduct wide-area surveillance tests. In 2019, the U.S. unleashed 25 solar-powered balloons equipped with hi-tech radars designed to simultaneously track many individual vehicles day or night, through any kind of weather.

Modern satellite technology might have made spying using surveillance balloon obsolete. But with advances in the miniaturization of electronics, it also means balloon payloads can now weigh less – enabling the balloons to be smaller, cheaper and easier to launch compared to satellite. Despite their slow speeds, balloons aren’t always easy to spot or detect.

And because balloons have a very low signature and low-to-zero emission, they are hard to pick up with sensors or other surveillance technology. Unlike satellites, which are more predictable in their orbital routes, balloons could go off course depending on wind direction and can be steered using computers to loiter “innocently” across an area of surveillance.

It’s absolutely possible for the Chinese balloon to collect information on U.S. communication systems and radars. Retired US Air Force Col. Cedric Leighton said – “They could be scooping up signals intelligence, in other words, they’re looking at our cell phone traffic, our radio traffic.” Intelligence data collected could then be relayed in real time via a satellite link back to China.

Despite the U.S. officials’ claim that the balloon cannot collect any sensitive data, it’s unknown if the statement was designed to save face and to prevent humiliation that data had been compromised. The only way is to be sure is to bring down the balloon without destroying it so that its payload can be examined. Still, China can insist those data collection tools were for weather research.

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There’s no guarantee that Beijing would stop launching more high-altitude balloons because they are cheaper than spy satellites, harder to spot by radar, difficult to shoot down and more importantly – an excellent toy to create alarms and tensions in Washington based on the Pentagon and the White House’s reactions. It sends a message that the Chinese too can create troubles for the U.S.

Not only the balloon – insignificant as compared to U.S. spy planes – was sent to demonstrate that China has a sophisticated technological capability to penetrate the U.S. airspace, but it also was a provocation to see how the Americans would react. Beijing wanted to send a message that it could retaliate if the U.S. keeps crossing the red line.

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U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who was scheduled to depart for Beijing on Friday evening on his first visit to China, has been forced to postpone his trip following the spy balloon drama. This suggests that the damage from the Chinese surveillance could be more serious than Washington would like to admit, contrary to the Pentagon’s claims that no data had been breached.

However, there’s something more serious than potential breach of data. The uproar and anger demonstrated by member of Congress clearly show the violation of American sovereignty was a slap in the face of the U.S. – humiliation equivalent to the serious violation of the one-China principle when U.S. politicians like Nancy Pelosi deliberately visited Taiwan.

 

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[coorslite21]

Not sure what they will recover....CL

 

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[bigwave]

1 hour ago, caddieman said:

Three Chinese spy balloons infiltrated the US during Trump administration but he NEVER shot them down or told the public

“It’s NOT True. I Can Refute It” – Former DNI Ratcliffe Is Latest Official to Confirm NO Spy Balloons Over Continental US During Trump Years! – MEDIA LIED (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/not-true-can-refute-former-dni-ratcliffe-latest-confirm-no-spy-balloons-us-us-history-media-lied-video/

[coorslite21]

 Not sure we'll ever learn any truth on any of this...

 

The Government wants us all kept in the dark....and the puppet media is under their control....so no luck on that end either....

 

So, guess I'll check out of this thread for now....   CL