Shabibilicious Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 New Zealand shootings: Racist gunman Brenton Tarrant was inspired by Anders Breivik and wanted 'revenge' Yahoo News Staff,Yahoo News UK 2 hours 18 minutes ago Brenton Tarrant is an Australian citizen. (AP) The gunman who killed more than 40 people in New Zealand is an Australian ‘racist eco-fascist’ who posted a 74-page manifesto online before the shootings. Brenton Tarrant, 28, said he was motivated by white supremacy and extremism he saw in the United States to carry out the attack at Al Noor Mosque. Video footage shows the username ‘Brenton Tarrant 9’ firing a gun 205 times and stopping only to reload his weapons. Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison confirmed the shooter was Australian and described him as an “extremist, right-wing, violent terrorist”. The gun Brenton Tarrant used to carry out the attack. (AP) The suspect posted a 74-page manifesto to Twitter and the online forum 8chan where he spoke of his hatred for Muslim immigrants in Europe. The manifesto included various questions and answers, one of which asked: “Who are you?” The reply said: “Just a ordinary White man, 28 years old. Born in Australia to working class,low income family. “My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock. I had a regular childhood, without any great issues. I had little interest in education during my schooling, barely achieving a passing grade.” Police stand outside a mosque after the shooting. (AP) He added: “I am just a regular White man, from a regular family. Who decided to take a stand to ensure a future for my people.” In the manifesto, the shooter declared he was inspired by gunmen including Anders Breivik who killed 77 people in Norway in 2011. The manifesto said he carried out the attack “to show the invaders that our lands will never be their lands, our homeland are our own and that, as long as a white man still lives, they will NEVER conquer our lands and they will never replace our people”. PM Jacinda Arden responds to mosque shootings He said he was in New Zealand temporarily while he “planned and trained” the attack. With regard to planning the attack, he wrote: “I begun planning an attack roughly two years in advance and an attack at the location in Christchurch three months in advance.” When asked whether he was a Donald Trump supporter, he said: “As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.” Map of where the shootings took place. (PA) Four suspects have been taken into custody following the shooting and the gunman has been charged with murder. New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Arden said: “This can only be described as a terrorist attack. While we do not have anything to believe at this stage that there were any other suspects, we are not assuming that at this stage.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/manifesto-posted-man-claiming-responsibility-112201032.html GO RV, then BV 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg1 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Im sure he wasn't a terrorist! Was just work place violence. Sound familiar. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 I'm sure he was psychotic B/A 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 49 shot dead in attack on two Christchurch mosques New Zealand PM says attack was terrorism Man in 20s charged with murder Police find explosives attached to cars Eleanor Ainge Roy in Christchurch and Lisa Martin Fri 15 Mar 2019 12.24 GMT 2 vids & pics https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/15/multiple-fatalities-gunman-christchurch-mosque-shooting This very sick individual declared that his hero is Anders Breivik ( the author of the biggest terror act in Europe operated by one single person: 77 dead in Norway) and also that he does like a lot Italian Luca Traini that in 2018 shot a few Africans ( men & women) at random in the streets of Macerata and called that " a personal vengeance" Edited March 15, 2019 by umbertino 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Wow......some in today's society have become cynical lifeless shells. This tragedy is grotesque....just as any senseless taking of innocent life is. GO RV, then BV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Wow......some in today's society have become cynical lifeless shells. This tragedy is grotesque....just as any senseless taking of innocent life is. GO RV, then BV But the human psyche is so crooked and complex.........This gentleman is convinced and more than sure of having done the greatest thing ever.... Far-right ideology detailed in Christchurch shooting 'manifesto' Document consists of rant about white genocide and desire to create atmosphere of fear for Muslims Lisa Martin Fri 15 Mar 2019 11.11 GMT First published on Fri 15 Mar 2019 08.46 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/15/rightwing-extremist-wrote-manifesto-before-livestreaming-christchurch-shooting Edited March 15, 2019 by umbertino 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Note: The Italian guy Luca Traini whom I mentioned above as one of the people the NZ shooting guy was inspired by, used to be a local ( not Nat'l) member of far-right party Lega ( League) which is currently at the Gov't in Italy ( in alliance with the Five Star Movement) The party kicked him out after he did shoot those 5 / 6 Africans ( they were only wounded, some seriously...but not killed, thank God) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Anti gun people already coming out in numbers. Cant stop crazy. If not a gun they would find another weapon . Very sad day 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, SocalDinar said: Anti gun people already coming out in numbers. Cant stop crazy. If not a gun they would find another weapon . Very sad day I agree... Crazy people will use whatever is available... B/A 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, SocalDinar said: Anti gun people already coming out in numbers. Cant stop crazy. If not a gun they would find another weapon . Very sad day Hello Socal...I do partly agree (which is good already...) The current wave of homicides in the UK and London especially is caused 80% or even more than that by stabbings..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg1 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Never hear mulims coming out condemning terrorist attacks till they are the victoms. Now President Trump will be the bad guy since the terrorist supported president Trump and his nationalism and anti open boarders/ mass immigration. I keep hearing on the news about the WHITE, racist, exteamist, trump supportin terrorist. When a muslim kills people in the states, it hard to find out any any information at all; what color, was he a muslum, terrorist, islam ties. 90% of the time we already knew the answers. They are afraid someone will hold something against them. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarDavo Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, jg1 said: Never hear mulims coming out condemning terrorist attacks till they are the victoms. Now President Trump will be the bad guy since the terrorist supported president Trump and his nationalism and anti open boarders/ mass immigration. I keep hearing on the news about the WHITE, racist, exteamist, trump supportin terrorist. When a muslim kills people in the states, it hard to find out any any information at all; what color, was he a muslum, terrorist, islam ties. 90% of the time we already knew the answers. They are afraid someone will hold something against them. The deep state and complicit MSM are getting desperate....sure more to follow. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 And sometimes truth can be a hard pill to swallow, so some will create alternative facts to numb the pain. GO RV, then BV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, umbertino said: Hello Socal...I do partly agree (which is good already...) The current wave of homicides in the UK and London especially is caused 80% or even more than that by stabbings..... Hello Umbertino, I try to avoid crowds. I dont let it rule my life but always feel uneasy standing in line to enter a sporting event or concert waiting to go through metal detectors. Bad guys know that no one is armed. Also my wife and I conceal carry. My kids both are familiar with and know how to use guns safely. We have several hidden handguns in our home. Stuff happens and best to be prepared 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: And sometimes truth can be a hard pill to swallow, so some will create alternative facts to numb the pain. GO RV, then BV You would have to define what "truth" it is you are mentioning. Truth can be seen as something different from both sides. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 A Good Guy and A Gun Stopped a Second Attack: An attack on a New Zealand mosque was reportedly stopped on Friday when a good guy with a gun fired at the attacker causing them to flee the scene, according to local media. The terrorist attack left 49 dead and dozens injured with at least 30 of the deaths coming from the Masjid Al Noor mosque and at least 10 more deaths coming from the Linwood Masjid Mosque. The lower number of deaths at the Linwood Masjid Mosque may in part be attributable to a good guy with a gun stopping the shooting. The New Zealand Herald reports: https://www.dailywire.com/news/44695/shooters-fled-second-mosque-attack-good-guy-gun-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said: You would have to define what "truth" it is you are mentioning. Truth can be seen as something different from both sides. That's why I left my statement purposely ambiguous.......for not everybody can handle having their rose colored glasses crushed. GO RV, then BV 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Not an answer to my question. I guess it is what it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said: Not an answer to my question. I guess it is what it is. You didn't ask a question. GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 I'm sorry. I thought you responded to it. It may not been in the form of a question so here it is. What "Truth" we're you referring to in your statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoviceInvestor Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 This tragedy almost defies understanding... My prayers and thoughts are with the victims and their family networks.. 🙏🙏🙏 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said: I'm sorry. I thought you responded to it. It may not been in the form of a question so here it is. What "Truth" we're you referring to in your statement. My truth in this instance is that an extremist with radical views, as stated in his manifesto, murdered innocent people at their place of worship because he viewed them as a threat......just like Pittsburgh, Orlando, the church in South Carolina and all the places across Europe and the world where hate and bigotry is inflamed by a weak set of core human values. GO RV, then BV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 O.k. He is innocent till proven guilty. That said he should be executed without a long waiting process when found guilty. "Innocent by reason of insanity" should not be a pass either. Some feelings could be fueled by a strong sense of human core values also. Depends on the mindset at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 hours ago, SocalDinar said: Hello Umbertino, I try to avoid crowds. I dont let it rule my life but always feel uneasy standing in line to enter a sporting event or concert waiting to go through metal detectors. Bad guys know that no one is armed. Also my wife and I conceal carry. My kids both are familiar with and know how to use guns safely. We have several hidden handguns in our home. Stuff happens and best to be prepared Thanks for your kind and balanced reply, Socal I did get your point....... I want to be totally honest with you (and other folks here on DV) and get to the point of stating ( as we all happen to be children of our own Nat'l culture and the way we got raised and stuff...Family, friends, environment, etc, which is normal) that I don't sincerely know if I'd be so adverse to firearms ( the way I currently am...and have always been ) was I born and living in the US.... I humbly and truly do accept the possibility that I might maybe think different on that very issue then and might even be a gun holder....Who knows......There...I said it..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 hours ago, NoviceInvestor said: This tragedy almost defies understanding... My prayers and thoughts are with the victims and their family networks.. 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks NoviceInvestor.......The relatives of those killed in NZ do deserve a lot of love and the feeling of real closeness by us all ( world community) in this very sad moment of their life... Just like the relatives of ALL the other massacre events inspired and operated by whomever for whatever crazy, criminal and twisted reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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