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Leading the alliance Abadi: We will announce the largest mass after the feast directly

August 22, 2018

 

 
 
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Ali al-Sunaid, leader of the victory coalition headed by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, said Wednesday that the largest bloc will be announced immediately after the Eid al-Adha holiday, pointing out that the alliance nucleus of the largest bloc will meet a high delegation of Kurdish leaders in Baghdad in the coming days.

Al-Sunaid said in a statement that the alliance will meet in Baghdad high-level Kurdish delegation in the coming days to discuss the formation of the largest bloc and come out with a unified vision, “stressing that” the alliance of victory is open to all political blocs. “

He added that “the announcement of the formation of the largest bloc will be immediately after the Eid al-Adha,” pointing out that at the same time that his alliance “coherent and there is no splits within the ranks and Mithar every now and then about the withdrawal of figures from victory is a disgrace.”

“The United States and Saudi Arabia are pushing for the formation of a strong government in Iraq,” said Hassan al-Salem, leader of the Fatah alliance, in a statement to Al-Maaloumah on Wednesday, pointing out that these efforts stand against half of the popular crowd and aim to weaken it. Ending / 25 h

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Leading the alliance Abadi: We will announce the largest mass after the feast directly

August 22, 2018

 

 
 
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Information / Baghdad ..

Ali al-Sunaid, leader of the victory coalition headed by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, said Wednesday that the largest bloc will be announced immediately after the Eid al-Adha holiday, pointing out that the alliance nucleus of the largest bloc will meet a high delegation of Kurdish leaders in Baghdad in the coming days.

Al-Sunaid said in a statement that the alliance will meet in Baghdad high-level Kurdish delegation in the coming days to discuss the formation of the largest bloc and come out with a unified vision, “stressing that” the alliance of victory is open to all political blocs. “

He added that “the announcement of the formation of the largest bloc will be immediately after the Eid al-Adha,” pointing out that at the same time that his alliance “coherent and there is no splits within the ranks and Mithar every now and then about the withdrawal of figures from victory is a disgrace.”

“The United States and Saudi Arabia are pushing for the formation of a strong government in Iraq,” said Hassan al-Salem, leader of the Fatah alliance, in a statement to Al-Maaloumah on Wednesday, pointing out that these efforts stand against half of the popular crowd and aim to weaken it. Ending / 25 h

http://www.almaalomah.com/2018/08/22/337533/

 

Not being a jerk here - Anyone know how the Iraqis define the meaning of “ immediately “ ?

 

If it’s anything like “ in the near future “ or “ in the coming days “ I better lay on additional supplies of beer, peanuts & popcorn for this show.

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1 minute ago, WheresmyRV? said:

Is it just me but aren't they putting off the announcement of the largest block? Seems like it's going to be in a few days now its after their holiday feast.

 

I think so. We’v Been had again, this time with “ a few days “

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Friend: Members of Al-Nasr alliance will visit Erbil on the third day of Eid

August 22, 2018

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22 August 2018

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The leader of the Kurdistan Democratic Party Tareq Siddiq, that “a number of members of the alliance victory will visit Erbil on the third day of Eid al-Adha to negotiate the accession of the Kurdish component to form the largest bloc.

A friend said in a press statement, “All the large blocs have developed democratic programs conform to the Iraqi constitution, but that does not mean that their implementation on the ground will be identical to him, especially as the Kurdish component of previous experiences described with time with most of the Shiite blocs.
He added that the Kurds put a number of general principles before the political blocs wishing to form the largest bloc represents the strategy of the next government, and have no red line towards any bloc.

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Iraq's Maliki seeks long-shot political comeback by courting Kurds

The former prime minister is appealing to the same minority he once had.

Former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki. Reuters Former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki. Reuters

Former Iraqi leader Nouri Al Maliki is attempting a comeback, four years after leaving office in disgrace, by seeking a Kurdish alliance.

The former prime minister was ousted from his position in 2014 following the fall of Mosul to ISIS. Mr Al Maliki, who is Shia, was widely criticised for alienating Sunnis and Kurds by excluding them from key positions and undermining power-sharing in Iraq. He came to power in 2006 with the blessing of both the United States and Iran. 

More than three months after Iraq's general election, and as negotiations to form a coalition government continue, Mr Al Maliki is trying to strike a deal with the Kurdistan Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan. It is a move that smacks of desperation, some observers say. 

May's parliamentary elections saw electoral lists led by nationalist cleric Moqtada Al Sadr and Iranian-backed militia chief Hadi Al Amiri win the largest number of seats out of the 329 seat house. 

Mr Al Sadr, who is leading a quartet of major parties with 136 seats, needs to secure 28 more to form a parliamentary majority. 

But Kurdish parties, which collectively secured over 40 seats, have signaled their willingness to join Mr Al Maliki's State of Law bloc, which won 26 seats, along with Mr Al Amiri's Fateh bloc which won 47 seats. There is no word though on how close to an agreement the parties are.

The two proposed coalitions account for around 249 seats between them, meaning that 80 seats held by smaller parties and individuals would hold the balance of power.

Mr Al Maliki is a small player in the Iraqi parliament, with three or four seats out of his bloc who are loyal to him, said Michael Knights, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

"However, he’s a natural politician, so he can bring people together and make deals, and this is why you talk to him," Mr Knights said, adding that he would have a limited role if Mr Al Sadr formed a government.

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Mr Al Maliki and the Kurds have every reason to be talking, said Andrew Parasiliti, director of global policy think tank RAND Corporation.

"The question is whether Maliki could – or would – deliver on his expansive offer to the Kurds, which, if enacted, would allow a reset in Baghdad-Erbil relations," Mr Parasailiti said

The Kurdish parties have approached negotiations in an open fashion, talking with all parties in hopes of maximising their leverage.

They seek to "develop relationships no-matter who becomes the centre of the new government in Baghdad," Mr Knights said. "It’s a smart move, even if their preference is not to work with Maliki, due to historic grievances."

Iraq's Kurds have displayed a capacity to act together to represent their interests in Baghdad, even as they compete for influence over the Kurdish north. They've also displayed a capacity for pragmatism in working with erstwhile rivals.

"They had problems with Haider Al Abadi as well, and yet they speak with him," noted Joost Hiltermann, regional programme director for conflict monitoring organisation International Crisis Group. "They don't want to lose out in government formation, and therefore will speak with anyone, and align themselves with the eventual winner."

But even courting the Kurds, Mr Al Maliki, whose only current formal role in government is as one of three largely ceremonial vice-presidents, remains a long-shot and will likely remain a supporting actor in any new government, Mr Knights said.

 

https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/iraq-s-maliki-seeks-long-shot-political-comeback-by-courting-kurds-1.762817

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, newbieDA said:

 

It won't be that bad, its moving along and everyone is waiting around the world, not only Iraq

 

Right you are ..... just throwing sarcasm, optimistic cynicism & humor at this like a Gorilla flings his own poop.....it may be messy - I think I’ll stop before I dig myself into a hole. 😎

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Legal expert confirms delayed call of the House of Representatives to hold its first meeting in accordance with the Constitution

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The legal expert, Tariq Harb, said Wednesday that "three days ahead of the deadline for the issuance of the decree calling for the convening of the first session of the new House of Representatives, adding that the period of fifteen days is the date of the meeting and not the decree in accordance with Article (54) of the Constitution.

"Article (54) of the Constitution stipulates that" the President of the Republic shall call the House of Representatives to convene within fifteen days from the date of ratification of the election results, "he added in a post on his own account in the social networking site" Facebook "on 22 August 2018.

He explained that "since the ratification of the Supreme Court of the results obtained on Sunday, 19 August, so it was necessary to issue the decree of invitation on Monday, the twentieth of this month is a day of official time."

"The 15-day period is to determine the date of the session. This article of the constitution separated between the date of issuing the decree and the date of the session. The date of issuing the decree must be immediately after ratification, on Monday after the day of ratification Sunday in application of the constitution."

"However, the date of the hearing may be within 15 days, which means that the period of fifteen days from the date of ratification is one day, ten days or fifteen days during this period, which is calculated from the date of ratification.

"The decree is issued in the case of ratification of the Federal Court on Sunday and Monday, as it was necessary to issue the Republican decree on Monday, but the date of the hearing is within 15 days. The interpretation of advisers in the presidency so they did not promote the decree on Monday and until today end of  Wednesday moved away On the rule of the Constitution, which set the period of fifteen days for the date of the first session of the new parliament, either the decree should be issued on the day after the date of ratification, which was necessary to issue the decree on Monday because the Constitution required the issuance of the decree after ratification, but granted 15 days to the date of the session " .

"Therefore, the interpretation of 15 days for the issuance of the decree and delay so far, contrary to the provision contained in the Constitution in accordance with the text of Article (54) which we have listed above and we hope to read it again to observe the provision and the urgency of issuing the decree of invitation for the first meeting and set a date during the five Ten days starting on Sunday, the 18th of this month, which ends on the third of the month of September next month does not matter that the holiday holiday .

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After the year .. Two Shiite delegations to visit Erbil in the framework of the biggest bloc race

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Two Shiite delegations visit Erbil as part of the race for the largest bloc
The alliance, which Maliki seeks to establish to form the largest bloc, the leaders of the popular crowd, including Hadi al-Amiri and Qais al-Khazali (archive photo)
 

Arbil (Kurdistan 24) - Kurdish officials said that two Shiite delegations from the two rival alliances will visit Arbil next week as part of the race to form the largest bloc.

One of the two delegations represents the alliance that Vice President Nuri al-Maliki intends to set up at a time when he is trying to persuade the Kurds to join him to form the largest bloc. The second delegation represents the coalition that includes the winner of the elections Muqtada al-Sadr and his ally Haider al-Abadi and racing to win the Kurds.

The largest bloc was supposed to be announced before Eid, but Sunnis and Kurds contributed to delaying the announcement after demanding written terms and guarantees for partnership and not repeating past mistakes when they were sidelined by the Shi'ite-led government dominated by the Dawa Party.

Maliki and Abadi belong to the Dawa Party, but they are vying to form the largest bloc on a mission that may take some time because of the Shi'ite-Shiite divide.

The two main Kurdish parties in the Kurdistan region say they do not mind joining any Shiite alliance provided that it complies with Kurdish conditions.

Kurdish sources told Kurdistan 24 that the Shiite delegations would arrive in Arbil next week. The sources did not specify a specific date for the visit.

The delegations are expected to arrive alternately.

"In fact, we are with everyone, but we are not with any party without another party," said PUK spokesman Saadi Bira.

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A spokesman for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan Saadi Bira
 

"Our talk is about partnership," he said. "Partnership does not mean we're just with them, but we have to be with each other" in decisions.

Shiite and Sunni negotiators are discussing the Kurdish axis as representing the Kurdistan Democratic Party led by Massoud Barzani and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan.

The Sunni Axis Alliance held consultations with the Kurds and said it was waiting for Shi'ite alliances to come to an end before deciding its final decision.

"Now the political movement between the alliances has begun ... until the arrival of the Kurdish component" to Baghdad, said legal expert Tariq Harb of Kurdistan 24.

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Legal expert Tariq Harb in an interview with Kurdistan 24 in Baghdad (Photo: Kurdistan 24)
 

The largest bloc needs to gather alliances from different parties to reach 165 seats out of a total of 329 to ensure the formation of the new government.

"We can not go through the political process without the Kurdish component," Harb said.

If al-Sadr fails to reach the largest bloc, and this is also repeated with the coalition of Maliki and his close ally, Hadi al-Ameri, the adversaries may be reluctantly forced into the coalition, as in previous years when alliances were established on a sectarian and national basis.

 

(Co-covered by Aras Ahmed)

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Khazali calls for regime change from parliamentary to presidential in Iraq

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Khazali calls for regime change in Iraq
From the right of the picture National Security Adviser Faleh al-Fayadh, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and Qais al-Khazali as well as the leader of the conquest Hadi al-Amiri (archival photo)
 
 

Arbil (Kurdistan 24) - The leader of the Fatah Alliance Qais al-Khazali to change the regime in Iraq from parliamentary to presidential, saying that this step would save the country from quotas and corruption.

Khazali leads the Asaib Ahl al-Haq group, one of the most powerful militias involved in the Iranian-backed popular mobilization forces.

"There is no real solution with a parliamentary system that governs the country by quotas and the situation will continue to lead to corruption and corruption, because the regime is a quota system," Khazali wrote on his Twitter computer.

Under an unofficial tradition of power-sharing in Iraq, the prime minister must be Shia, while the president is a Kurd, while the speaker must be Sunni.

"We therefore call upon all to cooperate in changing this system to a presidential or semi-presidential system that will save the country," Khazali said.

A change of regime in Iraq needs to change the constitution, which stipulates that Iraq is a parliamentary state. Such calls seem almost impossible under the country's complexities.

Participants in drafting the constitution say the parliamentary system has been approved so as not to be as unique to power as it was under Saddam Hussein's former regime.

The list of Asaib Ahl al-Haq won 17 seats in the new parliament after its alliance with the Fatah coalition led by Hadi al-Amiri, who is a strong ally of the leader of the coalition of state law, Nuri al-Maliki.

Maliki plans to create the largest bloc to seek to form a government and pull the rug from under the feet of rival Haider Abadi, allied with the leader of the coalition pass the winner of the election Moqtada al-Sadr.

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30 seats separating the alliance of Sadr and Abadi to reach the "largest bloc"

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Political parties continue to race against time, and moves in several directions, some contradictory, to accelerate the announcement of the formation of the largest parliamentary bloc, which is entitled to form a new government. 
The alliance of "Save the homeland", which includes the mass of "Sauron" backed by the Sadrists leading the results of the elections, and the bloc "victory" led by the current Prime Minister Haider Abadi, and "stream of wisdom" led by Ammar al-Hakim and the bloc "patriotic" led by Vice President Eyad Allawi and the block, "Saleh al-Mutlaq," for 30 seats only to officially announce the largest parliamentary bloc with 164 seats, which will go towards the formation of a reformed government, according to the description of participants in this alliance. 
The other political front, led by Vice President Nuri al-Maliki and has so far about 77 seats in the deputies, the total seats of the "state of law" and "
For their part, did not specify the "Kurdish blocs," which has about 45 seats in the parliamentary, and "national axis," which represents the Sunni blocs, which has about 50 seats, and their destination so far in alliances, and said they are waiting for the resolution of the largest bloc to negotiate with those involved in them to achieve their demands. 
In this context, the leader of the "National Wisdom Current" Ammar al-Hakim 3 options for the future of the political process in Iraq, through a speech addressed to his followers on the occasion of Eid al-Adha. 
He pointed out that the first option is the option of a "national majority coalition" in which all parties participate (in the absence of opposition), noting that in such a case, one of the forces takes responsibility for services and fighting corruption, while other forces take it upon themselves to monitor the performance of these The government and its evaluation, within the "space of interest and national responsibility," as he described it.
The second option according to Hakim is "the formation of a partnership government in the national space without returning to the sectarian and national spaces," explaining that this requires "breaking the rules of the old line." 
He pointed out that the senior positions should be chosen within the framework of the "national equation" to participate in the selection of all three presidencies and everyone is responsible for this choice. 
Hakim's third proposal is that he will not participate in the next government and move to the ranks of the "constructive opposition" if the first and second options are not achieved.

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Expectations of the birth of a difficult government of the sixth Iraqi .. The different programs and directions delay the announcement of "the largest bloc"

The Constitution applies the Kurds' standard to their coalitions in Baghdad

 

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Expectations of the birth of a difficult government of the sixth Iraqi .. The difference in programs and trends delayed the announcement of the largest mass & quot;
 

Iraqi officials and members of Iraqi political parties can not reach an objective agreement among themselves to form the so-called "largest bloc", the first step in the formation of the new government in the country, due to the reasons and many reasons.

Among these reasons, each party insists on its own conditions and does not refrain from going to the opposition and insisting on participating in the new government. This can not be considered new. The reasons for the delay of previous governments in Iraq in the post-2003 period are repeated this time in the talks on the birth of the Sixth Government.

The facts indicate that the political blocs winning the parliamentary elections held in May, such as the alliance, "the conquest" led by Hadi al-Ameri, the front of the militias, "the popular crowd," and the alliance, "Sosron" led by Moqtada al-Sadr, adhering to the conditions that do not give up, The parties "Kurdish" to reach a final agreement and come to Baghdad in a coalition "national comprehensive," as well as the parties, "Sunni" whose direction is not clear, after the emergence of two different visions of the vision, represented on Thursday dagger and his party "decision" and the remainder of the "Union of Forces" Jubouri.

The Shiite parties, most notably the Virtue Party, are trying to push the two poles of Fatah and Sultoun to sit and understand and revive the National Alliance to enter parliament as the largest sectarian political force.

 On Tuesday, the Virtue Party called for a roundtable meeting of the electoral blocs, leaving the split to two axes. "We still believe that the solution at a round table of the winning blocs to set the conditions and specifications of the Prime Minister, and the vote is on the candidates within it," the party said in a press conference in Baghdad.

He added that "there is no objection to the declaration of the second axis (the conquest - the rule of law) to another nucleus of the Great Bloc and then meet the two nuclei on the round table, but fragmentation and division is not in the interest of Iraq and its people, exhausted by the problems and wars.

He attributed the alliance "open" the reason for the delay of the arrival of parties to a conclusion on the establishment of the "largest bloc" to the pressures of the US and Saudi Arabia.

"The goal of America and Saudi Arabia is to seek the formation of a strong Iraqi government that does not allow external intervention and the American presence," said Hassan Salem, a member of the coalition, in a press statement. And the ambitions of Saudi Arabia There are pressures from the Sabban and America is practiced on the Sunnis, "he said.

In a related context, a member of the "coalition of state law" and a close to Nuri al-Maliki, Saad Mutlabi, in a press statement that "meetings between the parties are still continuing so far, and the committees are still working to write the government programs of these parties, but so far did not result in these meetings To any result with us, not even with others, "explaining that" the rule of law will move after the completion of writing its electoral program, and will be in the next few days, and we will announce what we will reach. "

"The insistence of the Sunnis and Kurds to reject the draft of the political majority (Maliki's project) and the sectarian or national confinement will force the Shiite parties to return to sectarian strife again, and we may witness the return of the National Alliance again."

"The last meeting we held at the Babel Hotel in downtown Baghdad proved our position and those who believe in our program," said Raed Fahmi, a member of the Sason Alliance and Iraqi Communist Party Secretary. "We did not communicate with the political parties All now. "

"The large Kurdish parties (the Kurdistan Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union) are preparing to prepare a joint delegation to visit Baghdad," Fahmi said. "We have not contacted them yet, and so far we have not reached a decisive decision on the alliance together. Kurdish ".

He pointed out that "political parties seek to revive sectarian alliances, such as the return of Shiites to the National Alliance, and the year to the coalition of forces, and we reject the sectarian blocs, and if this is achieved, we will follow the path of political opposition, but we are still fighting to prevent alliances on the basis of doctrines Sects ".

3 Options for a service government

It is noteworthy that the head of the "stream of wisdom" Ammar al-Hakim, an ally of the leader of the Sadrist movement Moqtada al-Sadr in the political program, put forward three three options to form a new government service serving Iraqis, while refusing to return to sectarian blocs.

"The return of sectarian and national alignments and alliances of regional and international interests intersecting Iraq will bring Iraq back to square one," Hakim said in a statement.

"There are three options for forming a service government, the first option, the national majority coalition, in which everyone is not absent from participation and opposition at the same time, participating forces and opposing forces within the space of national interest and responsibility. National space without returning to the confessional and national spaces, and the third option is not to participate in the next government and move to the constructive opposition in the event of the choice of the first and second options.

Attempts to reunite the Kurdish parties

The former deputy of the Democratic Party of Kurdistan Ashwaq dry, that "her party has an important priority, which is the reunification of Kurdish parties through invitations to the Union, and the Union again, and visit Baghdad," noting that "the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, But the opposition Kurdish parties so far have not responded to our invitations officially. "

"We will join forces with parties that implement the constitution in full, legal and strict, and not to apply it according to the personal desires of political leaders and rulers, we are waiting for the official response from the opposition Kurdish parties, then move from the stage of understandings to the stage of alliances and then start the government program, In the coming days, that is, after Eid al-Adha, we will know the secret of the delay of Kurdish opposition parties and to know the content of their demands or conditions or their point of view. "

In turn, saw the Iraqi political analyst Mohammed Shafiq, "The issue of the largest bloc must be reached, no matter how long or shortened duration, especially that the convening of the first session of parliament will give a great incentive and motivation," noting that "the delay in political parties is because of Lack of flexibility in the conditions set by each party. "

Shafiq also explained that "the meeting of the Hotel Babylon, which brought together the rest of the parties to announce the formation of the mass bloc, came very hasty to hit the other axis, the conquest and the rule of law, but the leaders did not take into account the sharp division and the dispute in the party Haider Abadi, , So it failed. "

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/ar/news/iraq/460700

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For their part, did not specify the "Kurdish blocs," which has about 45 seats in the parliamentary, and "national axis," which represents the Sunni blocs, which has about 50 seats, and their destination so far in alliances, and said they are waiting for the resolution of the largest bloc to negotiate with those involved in them to achieve their demands. 

 

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Suron sets out reasons why Sunni leaders did not attend the Babylon Hotel Meeting

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Do not rule out the threat of some of them to uncover files of corruption

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The Alliance of Suron, on Thursday, the exposure of some Sunni leaders to the pressures and threats, prevented them from attending the meeting of the leaders of blocs in the Hotel Babylon last Sunday, while the coalition of state law that is in the process of announcing the largest parliamentary bloc in the coming hours .

"Some Sunni leaders have been invited to attend the meeting of the Babylon Hotel, but differences and divisions within the national axis have prevented the presence of some leaders in the meeting," the leader of Sajron Ayman al-Shammari told a news briefing on August 23, 2018.

He revealed "pressure exerted on Sunni leaders not to attend the meeting, and it is not excluded the threat of some disclosure of files of corruption in the presence of certain Sunni figures to the meeting of leaders of blocs ."

The leader of the National Coalition, Saleh al-Mutlaq, said in a televised interview that "the National Axis Alliance represents the affected provinces, and its components must unite in each other and reject external pressures," referring to "the pressure exerted on some components of the Axis alliance, And made it two axes at the same time . "

The member of the Fath Alliance, Falah Hassan al-Jazairi, pointed out that after the ratification of the Federal Court on the results of the elections and the entry of political forces in the period required by the Constitution to hold the first meeting of the parliament no later than 15 days from the date of ratification, began the political blocs to fill their papers and intensify meetings in order to form The largest mass .

He explained that "Fatah (48 deputies) and the rule of law (27 deputies), and with them more than 27 deputies from the coalition of victory, and the national axis (53 deputies), and Kurds (between 45 and 50 deputies), worked to fill the papers to reach points of understanding leading to Formation of the largest bloc ".

He stressed that the Algerian "the largest bloc should include outputs," pointing out that "the recent meetings resulted in an agreement on the near announcement during the next two days," and expected that "the number of deputies to between 180 and 200 deputies."

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