Could a RV help Obama get a 2nd term?

[ilovesushi]

I agree with everything you said, except I believe that Obama will hold a second term. I always vote in case I'm wrong, but I don't believe our votes mean much. I think it's fixed. Soros owns the companies that own the voting machines in several key states, just for one example.

For another, when the IQD RVs, the US gov't owns lots of it, plus the taxes generated off of citizen holdings...is going to more than heal the economy. It will lull everyone to sleep, Obama will take credit, and will be the US hero.

Most American's don't know what we know, and aren't paying attention. I believe this RV may be the trigger that ushers in "The End of Days." I'm going to spend my money getting ready.

Plus 10!!!

Hey BrokeNoMore- I'm leaning towards some Bible prophecy making the RV happen. I heard that the UN is considering a move to Iraq and Iraq is predicted to be the commercial center of the world. Could you tell me more about what you know? Thanks.

If we RV as planned i am blaming Bush.....and Blame Bush will be the name of my new Yacht....lol

I hope to see yea on the waters too. I'm still looking for a name like that. Maybe "I TOLD YOU SO!"

[chocolate1]

Would an RV affect how we vote in the 2012 elections?

Is it possible that if Iraq revalues their currency that the millionaires (or billionaires) will go on a shopping spree that will "heal" the US economy?

If so (and if I was in Mr. Obama's shoes), I'd use this to my advantage.

I can see this helping him get re-elected.

...I did not vote for him the first time and would not vote for him in the next election.

'Funny How' so many flocked to vote for him the first time around without any real specifics about his mantra, "Change!"

[ilovesushi]

Of course!!!! The economy would get better with people buying cars, houses, more people retiring, making room for more jobs. And the adverage American who does'nt know about the dinar, will assume, he must have done something right. They will have no idea what caused the improvement, And really don't care how it happened, just as long as it did!!! Mr. Obama will not say "I did'nt do that "

I agree. It will be a time of prosperity in the US and other countries invested in the dinar. I've been telling my family but they think it's a scam and joke about it. I tell them that when it RV's I'm not sharing with them since I already told them to invest. They would rather play the lottery and fall for those door-to-door type sales schemes.

[bright]

The only way Obama, the worst President in American history, can get re-elected, is if he steals the election or if the preponderance of ignorance in America is such, in which I think not. I look at the 2010 elections as the precursor of the 2012 elections and therefore he cannot win.

"Our government is founded upon the intelligence of the people. I for one do not despair of the republic. I have great confidence in the virtue of the great majority of the people, and I cannot fear the result."

-Andrew Jackson

It would be nice if he could steal the election but GW Bush has probably been the only president that was able to hold that card......

[BrokeNoMore]

Hey BrokeNoMore- I'm leaning towards some Bible prophecy making the RV happen. I heard that the UN is considering a move to Iraq and Iraq is predicted to be the commercial center of the world. Could you tell me more about what you know? Thanks.

I'm honored that you would dignify my opinion by asking a question.

My opinions are "melting pot" kinds of ideas, gathered from a multitude of sources, and congealed by what they have in common. I have studied the December 21, 2012 expected cataclysm prophesied by the Hopi Indians, and the Mayan calendar ends on that date. The Web Bot has a data blackout from December 2012 to May 2013, which is very strange to say the very least. I don't remember how specific Nostradamus was about the end, but he also had things to say about it, more "physically cataclysmic" than specific about dates.

I know that the Scriptures say that "the riches of the wicked will be placed in the hands of the righteous" somewhere in the old testament, but with no real context, and I'm very loosely knowledgeable about other prophesies in the Bible. I know other people who are exclusively and deeply invested in understanding Biblical prophecy, and I just ask them questions and get to the bottom line--I could study the Bible for a year exclusively and still not know what these people know and understand about the end of time.

All the Biblical scholars I know agree that Iraq will be the center of the economic universe at the end. They further agree that the US is not noted in end times prophesies, and I believe the way our President is degrading our nation as a superpower and giving away our sovereignty to the UN is indicative of this starting to move in that direction, and fast.

I do believe that before things get brutally ugly on this earth, there will be an unspecified period of time with wealth upon the earth (according to Biblical prophecy), for long enough to lull everyone to "sleep" and let down their guard. I believe this RV could be it, to snowball something significant and worldwide. There is even talk of this RV bailing out the EU.

It has to be soon, for the period of wealth to occur and be long enough to satiate everyone if the ugly period is going to start or be in full swing by December of next year.

If the tribulation is a combination of physical cataclysms caused by the earth moving thru the plane of the Milky Way and the magnetic poles swapping, which incidentally NASA says will not happen...then it will indeed be a very difficult time.

So that's a summary of what I think. That's why I don't think the RV will be way off in the future, and why I think it will happen, as well as be significantly higher than 10c. I'm planning to use my wealth for a really nice vacation, and then preparation.

But it's just what I think. It's worth what you paid for it! Thanks for asking!

[mojack]

The only way Obama, the worst President in American history, can get re-elected, is if he steals the election or if the preponderance of ignorance in America is such, in which I think not. I look at the 2010 elections as the precursor of the 2012 elections and therefore he cannot win.

"Our government is founded upon the intelligence of the people. I for one do not despair of the republic. I have great confidence in the virtue of the great majority of the people, and I cannot fear the result."

-Andrew Jackson

You must believe GOP has the majority voters.

[Robinsnest]

Give me an RV and I will vote for ya!

[ilovesushi]

I'm honored that you would dignify my opinion by asking a question.

My opinions are "melting pot" kinds of ideas, gathered from a multitude of sources, and congealed by what they have in common. I have studied the December 21, 2012 expected cataclysm prophesied by the Hopi Indians, and the Mayan calendar ends on that date. The Web Bot has a data blackout from December 2012 to May 2013, which is very strange to say the very least. I don't remember how specific Nostradamus was about the end, but he also had things to say about it, more "physically cataclysmic" than specific about dates.

I know that the Scriptures say that "the riches of the wicked will be placed in the hands of the righteous" somewhere in the old testament, but with no real context, and I'm very loosely knowledgeable about other prophesies in the Bible. I know other people who are exclusively and deeply invested in understanding Biblical prophecy, and I just ask them questions and get to the bottom line--I could study the Bible for a year exclusively and still not know what these people know and understand about the end of time.

All the Biblical scholars I know agree that Iraq will be the center of the economic universe at the end. They further agree that the US is not noted in end times prophesies, and I believe the way our President is degrading our nation as a superpower and giving away our sovereignty to the UN is indicative of this starting to move in that direction, and fast.

I do believe that before things get brutally ugly on this earth, there will be an unspecified period of time with wealth upon the earth (according to Biblical prophecy), for long enough to lull everyone to "sleep" and let down their guard. I believe this RV could be it, to snowball something significant and worldwide. There is even talk of this RV bailing out the EU.

It has to be soon, for the period of wealth to occur and be long enough to satiate everyone if the ugly period is going to start or be in full swing by December of next year.

If the tribulation is a combination of physical cataclysms caused by the earth moving thru the plane of the Milky Way and the magnetic poles swapping, which incidentally NASA says will not happen...then it will indeed be a very difficult time.

So that's a summary of what I think. That's why I don't think the RV will be way off in the future, and why I think it will happen, as well as be significantly higher than 10c. I'm planning to use my wealth for a really nice vacation, and then preparation.

But it's just what I think. It's worth what you paid for it! Thanks for asking!

Thank you for sharing your research. I'm still putting all the pieces together and I think you're on to something. It's hard to see how we can get out of this bad economy but once the Dinar RV is factored into the equation, it looks like the time of prosperity is coming very soon.

[Captjohn]

Would an RV affect how we vote in the 2012 elections?

Is it possible that if Iraq revalues their currency that the millionaires (or billionaires) will go on a shopping spree that will "heal" the US economy?

If so (and if I was in Mr. Obama's shoes), I'd use this to my advantage.

I can see this helping him get re-elected.

I think there are far too few of us to really make an impact on the total economy. Most people in this country don't even know what a dinar is, let alone know it is the currency of Iraq. We are just too close and too absorbed in this ride to understand it's limited affect on the country.

I do, however, believe that if Ron Paul decides to run as an independant presidental candidate in the general election, he will essentially hand the presidency to Obama. Pray this doesn't happen, or that Ron Paul sees the light.

[BrokeNoMore]

Thank you for sharing your research. I'm still putting all the pieces together and I think you're on to something. It's hard to see how we can get out of this bad economy but once the Dinar RV is factored into the equation, it looks like the time of prosperity is coming very soon.

You're welcome.

[Shick]

MAN IS FALLIBLE AND NOT NECESSARIALLY BENEVOLENT GOD IS INFALLIBLE AND OBAMA IS MAN. GO RV!

[yippeekyae]

Millions will put 100's of billions into local banks and the big 4 as well if we get a high RV rate of 3-4 to 1. It will be hard to keep 6 million in your mattress at home. Most holders of dinar have told their friends to buy who told their friends etc. That much money is not safe in your home. Some will deposit overseas but that is risky as the Treasury goons are threatening all safe havens with horrible events if they don't turn over amercian account holders.The FED will gain huge and get 35 to 50% of the RV as some form of capital gains so the FED will benefit greatly. Fractional banking today is probably loaning 25 to 1 if not higher. Lending will start again and get small businesses improving in 2012. If RV happens before Xmas, retailers will have a boom where 3-4 million dinar investors (educated guess) will spend several more billion buying gifts from every retailer in the country. Obama will look like a savior of sorts and get reelected in 12. The electorate isnt smart enough to figure out the IQD RVd and caused instant wealth. The down side is the extra cash out there will cause inflation of 20-25% in 2012 and those who did not get in on the too good to be true iraqi dinar scam will see their dollars buy less and less. Gas will go to $200 a barrel and we will have $5 gas by years end with a hurricane to blame or some nonsense like that. The middle east hopefully will not be at war. This is how the elitists think IMO and this is how O could get another 4 years.

This will just prolong the economic collapse that fiat currencies have always brought mankind over the centuries. Bernanke will have you believe it is the gold backed money that causes economic armageddon.

The stimulus money never got into the economy over the past couple of years so inflation has been held at bay so to speak at about 12-14% overall which still sucks. If bail out money made it to businesses creating jobs, more money made and not entitled out (unemployment and more EBT) would have kicked inflation up to 20% for the year. (GOV would like us to believe it is below 6-7% when they take food and energy costs out of the inflation numbers since days of Clinton).

Well, there is my 2 cents worth or at least a 1/2 a cent with inflation counted in.

[DinarMillionaire]

You must believe GOP has the majority voters.

No, I believe in true Americans, whatever their political affiliation. The true Americans do not believe in Socialism or dictatorship and it was so evident in the 2010 elections that one can only surmise that the majority of true Americans will come to their senses and vote against Obama and his Marxist / socialism, because Obama is NOT the American way of life and he will be defeated even with the minority of people like you in the mix. You will be on the wrong side of history in the American revolution about to take place. The next election will be more historic than the 2010 elections. And anyone who thinks otherwise will be sorely disappointed when Obama loses big time.

Our government is founded upon the intelligence of the people. I for one do not despair of the republic. I have great confidence in the virtue of the great majority of the people, and I cannot fear the result.

-Andrew Jackson

[Mongo]

I would give up My dinar(all XX million) if that would keep Obama from a second term

Edited November 16, 2011 by Mongo

[gymrat76541]

The Republicans are a JOKE.

You only have to view just one of their debates and you will shake your head and wonder how any of them can win.

Obama is doing a poor job. Starting off by pissing off Big Business doomed his 1st term.

Nothing can or will be accomplished in America without the support of the people with $$$$$$$.

America is suffering now and will continue to suffer until after Obama is NOT re-elected. I say that because MOST Americans will blame him for our economy.

The record numbers of Americans coming out to vote for him will NOT be repeated due to the Republican Congress shutting everything down.

Business holding on to Trillions of dollars, paying lobbyist and politicians to bog down any and all legislation that will improve the economy will work.

Who cares if the middle class and poor suffer for an extended period of time.

Not the 1% who run the country.

Edited November 16, 2011 by gymrat76541

[Lutie]

It would be nice if he could steal the election but GW Bush has probably been the only president that was able to hold that card......

LOL you libs are such sore losers.

[Shinnidan]

regardless, he still not getting me vote next election.

[mojack]

No, I believe in true Americans, whatever their political affiliation. The true Americans do not believe in Socialism or dictatorship and it was so evident in the 2010 elections that one can only surmise that the majority of true Americans will come to their senses and vote against Obama and his Marxist / socialism, because Obama is NOT the American way of life and he will be defeated even with the minority of people like you in the mix. You will be on the wrong side of history in the American revolution about to take place. The next election will be more historic than the 2010 elections. And anyone who thinks otherwise will be sorely disappointed when Obama loses big time.

Our government is founded upon the intelligence of the people. I for one do not despair of the republic. I have great confidence in the virtue of the great majority of the people, and I cannot fear the result.

-Andrew Jackson

Republicans launched an organized effort to assure a one term office for Obama as he took office. That seems to be part of the politicians job. However, they can't find an opponent to run against him.

Everyone doesn't follow the extreme right. Everyone doesn't share the views of Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly and the type. Everyone doesn't share your views or your version of the "truth".

2008 news articles will remind everyone of the humogous challenges for any incoming president.

I'm not predicting the 2012 election, I just don't share yours.

LOL you libs are such sore losers.

You should read the post by the non-liberals or listen to conservative media leaders. Or the birthers or krome, dillion, delta, trusty, mongo and so forth. Consistent whining. Everyday repeated posts of slime.

[Anti This Anti That]

I have heard some people state that they voted for Obama, but would not do so again, so I feel if Obama wiggles back into the whitehouse like the lying serpent he is, it will be because of voter fraud. I think Ron Paul will win, but they will some how steal that from him through the corrupt justice system. The reason I think Ron Paul will win, is because he is beating everybody hands down in the polls, and the corrupt media are hiding that fact. I also believe America wil have an internal war, and patriots will win out over the marxist communist criminals presently running things. I also believe that the Vision they say George Washington had was real, but the left wing fast check liberals, and other nay sayers state it's not. I believe they refuse to admit it is true because it rains on their evil parade of a communist world government.

[twilite]

I feel that Obama, talking about taxing the millionaires and billionaires, is referring to the RV. Yes, he will want to take the credit for something that was put together by President Bush, Sr.

"RESCUING a BROKEN AMERICA" by Michael Coffman, Ph.D. should be in our schools and in our homes.. Many Dems and some Reps are pushing us towards Jaques Rousseau's socialist model, away from John Locke's model of "Life, Liberty, and Property (pursuit of happiness,) that our country was founded upon. Dr. Coffman explains everything in such a way that anybody can understand what the heck is going on!! I surely hope and pray Obama does not have another term. Obama's ideology is totally focused on Rousseau's model and I see that, being the destruction of the America I have grown up in. If somebody wants to call that racist then I'll call that person ignorant. READ the BOOK! We are heading off a cliff and we need a Constitutionalist to pull us back.

[usndiver]

This post has really gotten off track. A lot of folks think this RV is going to set the U.S. back onto the path of prosperity, which is not the case, it will barely cause an up tick in the consumer spending stat's. Here is my case.

First, my analysis is not taking into account the taxes that the federal and state governments will be collecting. My analysis is strictly on consumer spending. My numbers are based off of consumer spending for 2010 as reported by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

In 2010 the following was reported

There were 121,107,000 Consumer Units (individuals or households)

The average spent per consumer unit was $48,109.00 (mortgage, rent, food, clothing, etc.)

Total Consumer Spending in 2010: 121,107,700 X $48,109.00 = $5,826,336,663,000.00

Let's take this hypothetical then

IQD RV's and 100,000 new and happy investers each spend $1,000,000,000.00 in 2011. 100,000 X $1,000,000.00 = $100,000,000,000.00

So what does an additional 100 billion dollars of spending look like statistically through the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics report?

For simplicity sake I am using the 2010 levels of spending (annual consumer spending has dropped since 2008)

TOTAL PENDING FOR 2011: $5,826,336,663,000.00 + $100,000,000,000.00 (new spending by IQD investers) = $5,926,336,663,000.00

AVERAGE SPENDING PER CONSUMER UNIT 2011: $5,926,336,663,000.00 / 121,107,00 = $48,934.00

DIFFERENCE IN CONSUMER SPENDING BETWEEN 2011 & 2011: $48,934.00 - $48,109.00 = $825.00

So according to my math each consumer unit has gained an additional $825.00 a year or put another way, $15.86 a week. Now ask yourself, will every consumer unit, that is household or individual, spending an additional $15.86 a week improve the economy? Will it improve their standard of living? I think we know the answer to that one.

In closing I will add that you would have to be a complete lunatic to spend 1 million in one year. Anyone that does that is destined to repeat the fate of all of the lottery winners that are now broke!

[caz1104]

regardless, he still not getting me vote next election.

I feel the same way.

Edited November 16, 2011 by caz1104

[Nelg]

The first step towards terrorism and tyranny is who is or isn't an American due to beliefs. He got elected, get over it. The republicans are prolonging our suffering through fear, lies, and you guys are eating it up as they drive the knife further into your backs. They don't give a damn about you. Once these guys get into office, say good-bye to your jobs and your way of life. If you want an example, look at hat the republicans did in Pennsylvania, you can't even drink water without getting sick, all because of the republicans protecting corporations. Those safeguards, al taken away by the republicans. So.., just like when you guy selected Bush and the Republican House, you deserve hat ever happens.

Gave myself a negative to get the ball rolling.

Didn't give you a negative. You would enjoy that too much. People tend to believe what they want to believe, especially when it comes to politics and religion. That doesn't verify or negate validity of what you believe or speak. What does are the facts of the situation. You just expressed your opinion and what you believe but without stating some specifics. You just sound angry with conservative politics and vented. Hope you feel better.

[Sal0525]

No, just irritated that people are not holding others accountable for their actions and blaming another because of it. Look at what the house has done, vilified every attempt this administration has done to correct the mistakes from the last. All without any substance or alternatives, just more cookie cutter statements that can't apply to anything being presented. Nor any alternatives of any kind, all because on is a Democrat. Go ahead, make it a one term, keep the people in office that won't help the economy for the middle class.

As far as a negative goes, I see that it is common for those with moderate opinions to get them, especially when it is rational. Facts? Look at your candidates that are running? The ones that are moderate, in which I would vote for, are sidelined for presenting facts, concrete positions. Instead the ones that are ridiculous are your front runners. Facts is not what is wanted.

[Sal0525]

"You don't have to refer to anything that Bush did or did not accomplish in his administration due to the fact that the main stream media did a very good job of pointing out every negative thing they could towards President Bush and his administration...even if they had to make it up. You even had elected Officials talking crap about our standing President on foreign soil no less. No uproar about that from you liberals! Yet this guy we have in office now is running around the world apologizing for us being the greatest nation this world has ever known."

First of all, not a liberal. However I do believe in fairness, accountability and respect to the President, which I did while I was in the military. Something that many of my colleagues forgot to do when Bill Clinton was in office. Those with the same mindset ignored Bush while he performed acts that were contrary to common sense. The situation we are now in is because of his policies and Obama's deficit is in response to it. Do you really think that it is possible to wage two wars and lower taxes and then walk away with a booming economy? Where was Bush when all of the jobs went to other countries? Who is flourishing while others are suffering, you, your family? You can't tell me that you don't know anyone without a job? What did Obama try to do, get you health care so that you wouldn't suffer while you are out of a job, tried to pass legislation that would provide jobs, oh, killed Osama Bin Laden. Yes, I am giving him credit for that since Bush got credit for capturing Saddam. Oh, did I mention Ghaddafi? Tell me, what did the Republicans do? Oh, reaffirmed that In God We Trust is the national motto, and ensured that Corporations still got their tax cuts while refusing to hire anyone... Yeah, maybe I should become a democrat... Yet...

I think that being an American is under attack within our own country when non-Americans seem to have more rights than I, to include breaking the law. So that would count me out wouldn't it?

"Your attitude will really bring about change. Maybe you should find somewhere else to call home if it is soo bad here. I don't necessarily agree with all that our conservative elected officials stand for, but I choose who best represents my beliefs."

My attitude is all American, but since I don't share your beliefs of attacking a President with baseless facts? Wow. If you don't like your President then perhaps you should leave. You choose who you want to represent your beliefs. I am over here helping you to have to freely have and say those beliefs, Kuwait with trips into Afghanistan and occasionally in the past Iraq. Yet part of that privilege is for other Americans do differ with you as well as defend those that I think is unfairly being categorized.

"Good job, saved me from having to give you one!"

Like it really means anything??????? When I am watching the sunset from Belize should I be concerned with all of the negatives that I get on this site for stating the truth? Wow...

"I know the authenticity of who authored the below statement is in question but I believe it applies to our situation today.

The Fall Of Democracy"

The fall of democracy can also occur when the Corporations take over the means of government and destroy the ability of the represented to govern. When votes for politicians turn into stock holdings you would have a new form of government in which instead of laws, there would be company policies. The corporations had no problem with taking our money to save their cushy irresponsible lives, yet they refuse to hire and get the economy running or contribute to the government that allowed them to prosper in the first place. The fall of democracy, let me think... Who cried out when Hitler took control of Germany? Changed a democracy into a dictatorship? Didnt Bush say he wished he was a dictator? We need our conservatives, our liberals and most of all, our moderates, in which your party is throwing to the sidelines. Keep your beliefs, just don't expect myself or anyone else to agree or to keep silent, it is not the American way to stay silent.