WHAT HAPPENS IF...

[MAMARABBIT02]

JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS TO INTERNET, TV...ETC.....IS THERE A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL IN THE U.S.A TO CHECK TO SEE IF THE DINAR RV?

WE ARE ALL SO USE TO CLICKING ON THE INTERNET TO CHECK. BESIDES OUR BANKING SYSTEMS....ONLY SINCERE COMMENTS PLEASE!

[cbisinger]

JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS TO INTERNET, TV...ETC.....IS THERE A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL IN THE U.S.A TO CHECK TO SEE IF THE DINAR RV?

WE ARE ALL SO USE TO CLICKING ON THE INTERNET TO CHECK. BESIDES OUR BANKING SYSTEMS....ONLY SINCERE COMMENTS PLEASE!

the interNET was a network designed in such a way that it "can't" go down.

Relax chill, you'll know when it happens.

[MAMARABBIT02]

the interNET was a network designed in such a way that it "can't" go down.

Relax chill, you'll know when it happens.

THE TITANIC WASN'T SUSPOSE TO GO DOWN EITHER.......WELL, YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY

[bamagirl]

ROFL, what if the phones go down with everything else?? JK, I wanna know as bad as you!!

[MAMARABBIT02]

ROFL, what if the phones go down with everything else?? JK, I wanna know as bad as you!!

I KNOW...ITS KINDA FUNNY...BUT, WOULD DO WE DO THEN???

ADAM????????

[palung]

Who ever said a ship will never sink no matter what is fooling themselves and others. There is always a way to sink a ship!

p.s. Typing in all cap is kind of rude even if you are not trying to.

[WallyWeaver]

cbisinger is right, mamarabbit. The internet in the US is built with what's called a ring in ring architecture. It means, for example, you have a central hub site somewhere in a city that is located in the loop of a ring of fiber optic cable (if that makes sense).

Picture a circle, on the line of that circle place two dots on each side of the circle. The lines of the circle represent a fiber ring that carry both forward and return information. So, the dots are using the line(s) of the circle to transfer information. Now let's say there is a break in one line of the circle, on one side of the circle. It's okay because all of the information will just be transmitted on the other unbroken line of the circle.

Now, the good news is in cities all over the US there are many rings and there are rings running all over the country! So cbsinger is correct, it would be virtually impossible for the internet to go down. Unless, of course, the President hit the kill switch !

To use your analogy, it would be like the Titanic going out with 100 other Titanics. If one goes down, it's okay, everybody can just get on board one of the other 99.

[MAMARABBIT02]

cbisinger is right, mamarabbit. The internet in the US is built with what's called a ring in ring architecture. It means, for example, you have a central hub site somewhere in a city that is located in the loop of a ring of fiber optic cable (if that makes sense).

Picture a circle, on the line of that circle place two dots on each side of the circle. The lines of the circle represent a fiber ring that carry both forward and return information. So, the dots are using the line(s) of the circle to transfer information. Now let's say there is a break in one line of the circle, on one side of the circle. It's okay because all of the information will just be transmitted on the other unbroken line of the circle.

Now, the good news is in cities all over the US there are many rings and there are rings running all over the country! So cbsinger is correct, it would be virtually impossible for the internet to go down. Unless, of course, the President hit the kill switch !

To use your analogy, it would be like the Titanic going out with 100 other Titanics. If one goes down, it's okay, everybody can just get on board one of the other 99.

Thanks for you kindness!!!! Great way to explain it!!!!!!!!

[Jmcc]

We still have word of mouth. Just takes longer.

[truthful1]

You can always call the bank to see what the exchange rate is. No reason to worry.

[estewart]

The original Internet was a military project, intentionally designed to survive atomic bomb attacks.

THIS was one of the governments most brilliant achievements, and its most stupid. It has been trying to fashion a cut-off switch for years, and gain control of what it let lose.

The government of China does have control of the Internet there because it has control over the few portals the Internet uses to enter the country.

[Legolas]

Just watch for the "SMOKE" signals :lol: :lol:

[easyrider]

just watch for obama in the sky singing "A whole new world order"

It's a dazzling place youll wish you never knew.

Edited August 1, 2011 by easyrider

[Markinsa]

I think if Al Gore pulled the plug on his invention, then we'd have much bigger things to worry about than Dinar. The Financial Markets would crash, Banks would no longer be able to communicate with one another electronically... It would be BAAAD...

[BJinMontreal]

the interNET was a network designed in such a way that it "can't" go down.

Relax chill, you'll know when it happens.

The Internet 'Kill Switch' Bill: What It Is, and Why It Won't Die

by Amar Toor on February 1, 2011 at 03:00 PM

FILED UNDER: politics, security, web

On the very day that the Egyptian government shut down an overwhelming majority of the country's Internet servers, Republican Senator Susan Collins began floating a piece of legislation which, if passed, would grant the President the power to do essentially the same thing in the U.S.

The so-called 'kill switch' bill was approved by the Senate's Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee back in December, but expired once the new Congress assumed power a few weeks later. Collins, who serves as the Republican ranking member of the Committee, says the legislation wouldn't allow the President to actually "kill" the Internet, but would simply give him the ability to shut down "critical infrastructure" in the event of a serious cyberattack on the country.

"My legislation would provide a mechanism for the government to work with the private sector in the event of a true cyber emergency," Collins wrote in an e-mail to Wired. "It would give our nation the best tools available to swiftly respond to a significant threat." An aide to the Senate Committee provided Wired with the following example: if the U.S. detected a serious cyberthreat, Collins' legislation would enable the President to instantly shut down any infrastructure connected to "the system that controls the floodgates to the Hoover dam"

Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman, who co-sponsored the bill, hailed the kill switch as a necessary defense against "cyber warriors, cyber spies, cyber terrorists and cyber criminals." "For all its allure," Lieberman continued, "the Internet can be a dangerous place with electronic pipelines that run directly into everything from our personal bank accounts to key infrastructure to government and industrial secrets."

Not everyone, however, is so enthusiastic about the idea. Last year, the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Library Association, Electronic Frontier Foundation and Center for Democracy & Technology and several other groups wrote an open letter to Congress, expressing their collective concerns about the proposed legislation. If passed, they argue, the measure could easily allow the government to censor the Web. "It is imperative that cyber-security legislation not erode our rights," they wrote in the letter (PDF).

A congressional white paper (PDF) countered that the legislation clearly prohibits the government from censoring websites "based solely on activities protected by the First Amendment." But it's not just free speech advocates who are concerned. "This has implications not just for free speech," Business Insider's Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry writes, "but also for free markets, as zillions of businesses (including this one!) depend on the internet directly or indirectly." Steve DelBianco echoed Gobry's market-related concerns, pointing out that the legislation expressly prohibits targeted websites from contesting the shutdown in court.

"Judicial review is our main concern," said DelBianco, director of the NetChoice coalition, which includes eBay, Oracle and Yahoo!. "A designation of critical information infrastructure brings with it huge obligations for upgrades and compliance." Speaking to the Daily Mail, DelBianco added that any company should be able to settle a "good-faith disagreement" with the government in court, and that no law should deny businesses that right. "The country we're seeking to protect is a country that respects the right of any individual to have their day in court," he continued. "Yet this bill would deny that day in court to the owner of infrastructure."

PC Magazine's John C. Dvorak thinks the entire premise of the bill is misguided, and founded upon what he calls a "weird tautology." "The country can't function without the Net, so we need to secure [it], which includes having the ability to shut it down," he explains. "But with the Net down, how can the country function? You tell me."

The timing of the bill's resurgence is also curious, as the Obama administration continues to urge Egypt to open up the Web and online social networks. National Post's Matt Gurney acknowledges that Congress isn't "wrong" to take strong measures against cyberattacks, but argues that "the irony of the U.S. debating how to kill the Internet while we all rely on the very same technology to keep us up to date about how other people are using social media to change the world is inescapable, and groan-inducing."

Then, of course, there's always the concern that the 'kill switch' could just make it easier for the U.S. government to do exactly what Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak did. Pragmatic as the measure may be in combating cyber-terrorists, Dvorak argues that Collins' bill speaks to a reactionary mentality from another era. "There's a banana republic mentality at work here with this Internet kill switch nonsense," Dvorak writes. "Nobody is taking it over to deliver a victory message any time soon. But the idea is clear. Control the Internet, and you control the masses."

Tags: congress, constitution, court, CyberAttack, egypt, free speech, FreeSpeech, Hosni Mubarak, HosniMubarak, Internet, Joe Lieberman, JoeLieberman, kill switch, KillSwitch, law, obama, politics, security, terrorism, top, Web

•via: BusinessInsider, PCMag, The Week•source: Wired, DailyMail

[Priscilla]

Listen for the screams! we all will be making a whole lot of noise! go RV

[dog53]

Who ever said a ship will never sink no matter what is fooling themselves and others. There is always a way to sink a ship!

p.s. Typing in all cap is kind of rude even if you are not trying to.

TYPING IN CAPS IS KINDA RUDE IS THE MOST RIDICULUS THING I EVER HEARD. IT`S STUPID STATEMENTS LIKE THAT THAT MAKES ME WORRY AS TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED AS A SPEICES. DUDE ITS JUST LETTERS . CAP`S . SMALL CAPS. WHATS RUDE ABOUT IT. NOW IF SHE HAD SAID BLA !!!!!! BLA !!!!! BLA!!!!

YES THATS SHOUTING AND BEING RUDE BUT JUST TYPING IN CAPS DOES NOT MEAN RUDNESS THATS IN YOUR HEAD

Just my opinion

[RodandStaff]

Just watch for the "SMOKE" signals :lol: :lol:

You may be closer to the truth than anyone Legolas... one thing this "internet discussion" seems to be missing... what if there is no electricity??? ... I am not trying to scare anybody, and it certainly is chasing a rabbit trail in regards to the original question. But these internet experts, no offense intended, seem to forget without power either the internet goes down, or the computers... or both. Then Legolas is right... it's back to the "old fashioned way"... line of sight, string and a tin can, or "smoke signals"! Pray that don't happen is all I can say!

[Polecat85]

JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS TO INTERNET, TV...ETC.....IS THERE A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL IN THE U.S.A TO CHECK TO SEE IF THE DINAR RV?

WE ARE ALL SO USE TO CLICKING ON THE INTERNET TO CHECK. BESIDES OUR BANKING SYSTEMS....ONLY SINCERE COMMENTS PLEASE!

Each major city will have a blimp that will broadcast the message to the people below.

[hbrill61]

TYPING IN CAPS IS KINDA RUDE IS THE MOST RIDICULUS THING I EVER HEARD. IT`S STUPID STATEMENTS LIKE THAT THAT MAKES ME WORRY AS TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED AS A SPEICES. DUDE ITS JUST LETTERS . CAP`S . SMALL CAPS. WHATS RUDE ABOUT IT. NOW IF SHE HAD SAID BLA !!!!!! BLA !!!!! BLA!!!!

YES THATS SHOUTING AND BEING RUDE BUT JUST TYPING IN CAPS DOES NOT MEAN RUDNESS THATS IN YOUR HEAD

Just my opinion

THANK YOU !

[palung]

TYPING IN CAPS IS KINDA RUDE IS THE MOST RIDICULUS THING I EVER HEARD. IT`S STUPID STATEMENTS LIKE THAT THAT MAKES ME WORRY AS TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED AS A SPEICES. DUDE ITS JUST LETTERS . CAP`S . SMALL CAPS. WHATS RUDE ABOUT IT. NOW IF SHE HAD SAID BLA !!!!!! BLA !!!!! BLA!!!!

YES THATS SHOUTING AND BEING RUDE BUT JUST TYPING IN CAPS DOES NOT MEAN RUDNESS THATS IN YOUR HEAD

Just my opinion

Maybe if you take college classes then you would learn that!

And....that's not just my opinion.

[WallyWeaver]

You may be closer to the truth than anyone Legolas... one thing this "internet discussion" seems to be missing... what if there is no electricity??? ... I am not trying to scare anybody, and it certainly is chasing a rabbit trail in regards to the original question. But these internet experts, no offense intended, seem to forget without power either the internet goes down, or the computers... or both. Then Legolas is right... it's back to the "old fashioned way"... line of sight, string and a tin can, or "smoke signals"! Pray that don't happen is all I can say!

No offense taken R&S. But as far as the ISPs (Internet Service Providers) are concerned, this has been thought of. You wouldn't believe the amount of built-in generators and batteries for back-up DC power that are in place for this type of scenario. Not only that, but all ISPs I am familiar with also have many, many portable generators on hand for deployment. You do not have to worry if the power goes out, the internet will still be there.

The only place where a lot of people might get stuck is having AC for their PCs. This could be a problem.... my recomondation is buy a portable generator for emergency purposes. This is a good idea whether you want internet in a power outage or not. You could, for instance, plug your refrigerator into it to keep your food from going bad until electricity is restored.

The only thing I can think of that would deter you from having internet access would be the "Presidential kill switch" and I am not even sure if that is in place at this time.

But now I am even further down the rabbit hole on this topic and need to start walking back.

[estewart]

TYPING IN CAPS IS KINDA RUDE IS THE MOST RIDICULUS THING I EVER HEARD. IT`S STUPID STATEMENTS LIKE THAT THAT MAKES ME WORRY AS TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED AS A SPEICES. DUDE ITS JUST LETTERS . CAP`S . SMALL CAPS. WHATS RUDE ABOUT IT. NOW IF SHE HAD SAID BLA !!!!!! BLA !!!!! BLA!!!!

YES THATS SHOUTING AND BEING RUDE BUT JUST TYPING IN CAPS DOES NOT MEAN RUDNESS THATS IN YOUR HEAD

Just my opinion

RIGHT!

And shouting isn't rude either.

Some people!

[RodandStaff]

No offense taken R&S. But as far as the ISPs (Internet Service Providers) are concerned, this has been thought of. You wouldn't believe the amount of built-in generators and batteries for back-up DC power that are in place for this type of scenario. Not only that, but all ISPs I am familiar with also have many, many portable generators on hand for deployment. You do not have to worry if the power goes out, the internet will still be there.

The only place where a lot of people might get stuck is having AC for their PCs. This could be a problem.... my recomondation is buy a portable generator for emergency purposes. This is a good idea whether you want internet in a power outage or not. You could, for instance, plug your refrigerator into it to keep your food from going bad until electricity is restored.

The only thing I can think of that would deter you from having internet access would be the "Presidential kill switch" and I am not even sure if that is in place at this time.

But now I am even further down the rabbit hole on this topic and need to start walking back.

Ah yes... we digress, but thanks for the info.... I was strictly speaking from a "worst case scenario" vantage point for civilians and not on track from the original statement... me a very bad boy!

Generators are great for temporary back up in that situation though ... good point. Don't wanna take this topic any farther off track than I already have! Would need to open up a "survival post" for that one! Thanks for the feedback... good to know! And again.... GO RV Already Baby!!!

RIGHT!

And shouting isn't rude either.

Some people!

"What's that sonny... speak up, I can't hear you!"

Edited August 2, 2011 by RodandStaff

[matlok12]

TYPING IN CAPS IS KINDA RUDE IS THE MOST RIDICULUS THING I EVER HEARD. IT`S STUPID STATEMENTS LIKE THAT THAT MAKES ME WORRY AS TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED AS A SPEICES. DUDE ITS JUST LETTERS . CAP`S . SMALL CAPS. WHATS RUDE ABOUT IT. NOW IF SHE HAD SAID BLA !!!!!! BLA !!!!! BLA!!!!

YES THATS SHOUTING AND BEING RUDE BUT JUST TYPING IN CAPS DOES NOT MEAN RUDNESS THATS IN YOUR HEAD

Just my opinion

Stirring the pot I see.......