detroitjazzman Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 [quote name=Wino' date='11 February 2011 - 08:4 0 PM' timestamp='1297474853' post='379970] This will only work in countries that recognize the U.S. authority ,and at the rate that our popularity is growing with our current administration, the number of recognizung countries could get smaller. I.ve been traveling the world over 40 years and up until the bush administration never had a problem being an american over seas. This dsparaging attitude about america is in no way a recent attitude. just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Iraq Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Learn more about offshore banking at http://www.panamalaw.org/ Thanks, good site! Need to work on a second passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Spike Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Wow! I had never thought about the chip being used on us!(My dogs are chipped, which I thought was a helpful thing!) I will do some more research on it! I am not prone to enjoy the conspiracy theories either, but I was shocked to find out, while doing research awhile back, that our birth certificates actually say "bank note" on them. Like you were suggesting , the Amercan taxpayer is actually human collateral. Thanks for the post! Another thing I don't understand is all the empty prisons around our country that were paid for by our tax dollars. Another YouTube search, but look up ' Fema camps', and 'American concentration camps'. Just more scary stuff and bad legislation... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chape Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 If you don't want to be "chipped" watch out for flu shots & immunizations....always read all find print from now on (if its even to be found there) but they have microscopic processors nano technology....capable of being injected as a liquid. Just sayin. OR, dont get any vaccines at all... At least be aware! http://vaccinesafetyfirst.com/Home.html Just sayin. Best Regards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomur Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Why aren't you happy that all those very rich people who have hiding their money in Foreign Banks for years are finally being forced to pay their share of taxes just like the rest of us? Just because you might join their ranks? If this goes like we would all like, it is a gift-pay your taxes and be happy to have enough that you may soon be in that high tax bracket! Oops-'been' hiding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thank You to all the concerned citizens who voted for change. How do You like him now. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV4LIFE Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Thank You to all the concerned citizens who voted for change. How do You like him now. LOL tell me about a politician that ever ever told the truth? the question real is, how you like all of them now. personally i only like the ones on that green paper we call money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dog Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Nice try, but Belize is on the list, top of the list is the Cayman islands, then Panama, and Belize. the U.S. will eventually get to Belize, on it's way to controling every single penny a U.S. citizen earns, just to insure Uncle Sam get's his cut Then why is Adam having us open accounts in Belize? Something is wrong with this picture and I would like to see links or references to back it up. Talk is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonmouse013 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Then why is Adam having us open accounts in Belize? Something is wrong with this picture and I would like to see links or references to back it up. Talk is cheap. [/quote Belize has not signed TIEA with USA...with Australia and several other countries...but not USA. Here is a link from the IRS website with a listing of countries that have TIEA agreements with USA...however, Panama is missing from this list (http://panamaadvisoryinternationalgroup.com/blog/news-from-panama/panama-signs-tax-information-exchange-agreement-with-the-us/) http://www.irs.gov/businesses/international/article/0,,id=96739,00.html United States Income Tax Treaties - A to Z The United States has tax treaties with a number of foreign countries. Under these treaties, residents (not necessarily citizens) of foreign countries are taxed at a reduced rate, or are exempt from U.S. taxes on certain items of income they receive from sources within the United States. These reduced rates and exemptions vary among countries and specific items of income. Under these same treaties, residents or citizens of the United States are taxed at a reduced rate, or are exempt from foreign taxes, on certain items of income they receive from sources within foreign countries. Most income tax treaties contain what is known as a "saving clause" which prevents a citizen or resident of the United States from using the provisions of a tax treaty in order to avoid taxation of U.S. source income. If the treaty does not cover a particular kind of income, or if there is no treaty between your country and the United States, you must pay tax on the income in the same way and at the same rates shown in the instructions for the applicable U.S. tax return. Many of the individual states of the United States tax income which is sourced in their states. Therefore, you should consult the tax authorities of the state from which you derive income to find out whether any state tax applies to any of your income. Some states of the United States do not honor the provisions of tax treaties. This page provides links to tax treaties between the United States and particular countries. For further information on tax treaties refer also to the Treasury Department's Tax Treaty Documents page. A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z A Armenia Australia Austria Azerbaijan Back To Top B Bangladesh Barbados Belarus Belgium Bulgaria Back To Top C Canada China Cyprus Czech Republic Back To Top D Denmark Back To Top E Egypt Estonia Back To Top F Finland France Back To Top G Georgia Germany Greece Back To Top H Hungary Back To Top I Iceland India Indonesia Ireland Israel Italy Back To Top J Jamaica Japan Back To Top K Kazakhstan Korea Kyrgyzstan Back To Top L Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Back To Top M Mexico Moldova Morocco Back To Top N Netherlands New Zealand Norway Back To Top O Back To Top P Pakistan Philippines Poland Portugal Back To Top Q Back To Top R Romania Russia Back To Top S Slovak Republic Slovenia South Africa Spain Sri Lanka Sweden Switzerland Back To Top T Tajikistan Thailand Trinidad Tunisia Turkey Turkmenistan Back To Top U Ukraine Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) United Kingdom United States Model Uzbekistan Back To Top V Venezuela Back To Top W Back To Top X Back To Top Y Back To Top Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Original spike Hello a couple off years ago after reading about a company that was selling these chips you mentioned , used to keep track of cattle and how much they consume {feed, water ,etc] . i wasn't to concerned about it. THen a couple of days later while researching some tech company stocks to invest in the same company showed up. several million chips had been ordered by an agency for again to keep track of cattle. well like i said this was a copuple of years ago. Two weeks ago as i was driving to the store listening to the radio i heard a talk show host speaking of how some people have already had these chips put in them without knowing. Same company name came up again. sorry for not being much of a writer. company name verichip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Irish Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Nevis St. Kitts is the answer to all these problems. They don't care what the US says. As long as the bank you use in Nevis does not have branches in the US they don't have to do what the US says. They did not sign the UN treaty that was meant to stop money laundering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 I watched this video, its about an hour long, very scary and very informative but its not preachy. Mark of the Beast – Katherine Albrecht – Clip – NWO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 This is another reason to get rid of this 3k page monstrosity called(((The health care bill))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckh Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 The problem I'm finding is the people I try to talk to about this stuff either don't want to hear it or think I'm one of the crazy kooks! The way the PTB are able to take us all over is by making us want it. How many here have a rewards credit card? Got it for the rewards points, right, intending to pay it off every month (whether you do or not is irrelevant for my point) so now they can track what you are buying, where you are buying it. Got a rewards card for the grocery store discounts? gas discounts? hardware store? starbucks? How many of those stupid tags are hanging off your keychain? What about the browsers? Ever look at an item at an online store (or put it in the cart but not purchase) and now the same item is popping up in adverts anywhere you go on the web or in your email with specials on the exact item you were looking at? They are tracking where we go on the internet. What about that new smart phone? Got a gps for directions in it, they can also track your movements with it. They want to chip us? Just tell folks there's a flu or virus or something coming and people are calling asking, begging for the vaccines. (But tell them to eat right and take care of their immune system and they'd rather eat chips! sorry, wrong rant) I remember a story with the first family in the US to get chipped and they were thrilled because the dad had a medical problem (I think) and all his medical info was on the chip. I think they all got tattoos to draw attention to the chips for EMS since they were so new at the time.) Now most people I've spoken with are ok with all this because of the perceived benefits they are getting. Same thing with being a 'citizen' of the corp, birth cert, social security card, drivers lic, marriage lic, most of us have never read the underlying associated contracts and we just do as we are told ....... to just, "sign here" Get out a magnifying glass and look at the line where you sign your checks... did you know it is not just a line... there's words there... why make them microscopic? Just like a magician using misdirection they lead us thru the shoot like cattle, singing and smiling all the way, focused on that carrot so we are not looking when the floor beneath us disappears. God save the people of this great country. I pray we open our eyes before the doors are closed and locked behind us. Belize has not signed TIEA with USA...with Australia and several other countries...but not USA. Here is a link from the IRS website with a listing of countries that have TIEA agreements with USA...however, Panama is missing from this list (http://panamaadvisoryinternationalgroup.com/blog/news-from-panama/panama-signs-tax-information-exchange-agreement-with-the-us/) I read where Panama had recently signed this agreement, in the last year or so, I think?? Anyone else hear that? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonmouse013 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 The problem I'm finding is the people I try to talk to about this stuff either don't want to hear it or think I'm one of the crazy kooks! The way the PTB are able to take us all over is by making us want it. How many here have a rewards credit card? Got it for the rewards points, right, intending to pay it off every month (whether you do or not is irrelevant for my point) so now they can track what you are buying, where you are buying it. Got a rewards card for the grocery store discounts? gas discounts? hardware store? starbucks? How many of those stupid tags are hanging off your keychain? What about the browsers? Ever look at an item at an online store (or put it in the cart but not purchase) and now the same item is popping up in adverts anywhere you go on the web or in your email with specials on the exact item you were looking at? They are tracking where we go on the internet. What about that new smart phone? Got a gps for directions in it, they can also track your movements with it. They want to chip us? Just tell folks there's a flu or virus or something coming and people are calling asking, begging for the vaccines. (But tell them to eat right and take care of their immune system and they'd rather eat chips! sorry, wrong rant) I remember a story with the first family in the US to get chipped and they were thrilled because the dad had a medical problem (I think) and all his medical info was on the chip. I think they all got tattoos to draw attention to the chips for EMS since they were so new at the time.) Now most people I've spoken with are ok with all this because of the perceived benefits they are getting. Same thing with being a 'citizen' of the corp, birth cert, social security card, drivers lic, marriage lic, most of us have never read the underlying associated contracts and we just do as we are told ....... to just, "sign here" Get out a magnifying glass and look at the line where you sign your checks... did you know it is not just a line... there's words there... why make them microscopic? Just like a magician using misdirection they lead us thru the shoot like cattle, singing and smiling all the way, focused on that carrot so we are not looking when the floor beneath us disappears. God save the people of this great country. I pray we open our eyes before the doors are closed and locked behind us. I read where Panama had recently signed this agreement, in the last year or so, I think?? Anyone else hear that? YEP - they did sign...that's why I included the link regarding it. Panama DID sign - no longer a "tax haven".....for US citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best president ever Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Hello, you keep saying Obama's law do you understand government because it doesn't sound like it. The congress has to pass the bill, for which, is controlled by the Republican party, and then it would have to go to the Senate, for which, is basically even with the parties and guest what then if passed it goes to the President who then sign it into LAW. So my point is that the Republican party is the party that is a fake when it come to spending and taxing I have learned that simple code so I will not support them again I will support the Obama Administration at least he is straight forward on his issues. Pay your taxes if people say they are religious fokes the taxes take of the needs of the poor and the country believe me God will take of everyone rich or poor as long as the serve him according to his laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havasumom Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I TOTALLY agree with you! I have been saying this for years! How about "they" know you have purchased guns or ammo with your card? "They" can track what you eat, drink, if you smoke... turn you down for your healthcare. It is very scary. Flu vaccines- no way!!! Even working in a store, an employee can track purchases, know when maybe there is a lapse in purchases, know your house is empty and have knowledge of what the contents are. It is so hard NOT to use a debit card- it's so much easier. I know -it's better to keep your thoughts to yourself unless you know someone thinks like you. Otherwise your considered paranoid! You've got 6 people in my house that think like you about this subject! knowquote name='ckh' date='13 March 2011 - 10:33 AM' timestamp='1300034024' post='412012'] The problem I'm finding is the people I try to talk to about this stuff either don't want to hear it or think I'm one of the crazy kooks! The way the PTB are able to take us all over is by making us want it. How many here have a rewards credit card? Got it for the rewards points, right, intending to pay it off every month (whether you do or not is irrelevant for my point) so now they can track what you are buying, where you are buying it. Got a rewards card for the grocery store discounts? gas discounts? hardware store? starbucks? How many of those stupid tags are hanging off your keychain? What about the browsers? Ever look at an item at an online store (or put it in the cart but not purchase) and now the same item is popping up in adverts anywhere you go on the web or in your email with specials on the exact item you were looking at? They are tracking where we go on the internet. What about that new smart phone? Got a gps for directions in it, they can also track your movements with it. They want to chip us? Just tell folks there's a flu or virus or something coming and people are calling asking, begging for the vaccines. (But tell them to eat right and take care of their immune system and they'd rather eat chips! sorry, wrong rant) I remember a story with the first family in the US to get chipped and they were thrilled because the dad had a medical problem (I think) and all his medical info was on the chip. I think they all got tattoos to draw attention to the chips for EMS since they were so new at the time.) Now most people I've spoken with are ok with all this because of the perceived benefits they are getting. Same thing with being a 'citizen' of the corp, birth cert, social security card, drivers lic, marriage lic, most of us have never read the underlying associated contracts and we just do as we are told ....... to just, "sign here" Get out a magnifying glass and look at the line where you sign your checks... did you know it is not just a line... there's words there... why make them microscopic? Just like a magician using misdirection they lead us thru the shoot like cattle, singing and smiling all the way, focused on that carrot so we are not looking when the floor beneath us disappears. God save the people of this great country. I pray we open our eyes before the doors are closed and locked behind us. I read where Panama had recently signed this agreement, in the last year or so, I think?? Anyone else hear that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto144 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Why aren't you happy that all those very rich people who have hiding their money in Foreign Banks for years are finally being forced to pay their share of taxes just like the rest of us? Just because you might join their ranks? If this goes like we would all like, it is a gift-pay your taxes and be happy to have enough that you may soon be in that high tax bracket! Oops-'been' hiding! Not about not paying taxes, it's about being free to move and invest as one pleases. Oh, and all those "rich" not paying their fair share, an average "rich" person with $1mil annual income will pay $350 -$400 thousand per year. Is that not "their fair share"? Are they using the roads more than the average Joe, schools (no most likely paying again for private schooling), more medical benefits, more police/fire protection..........and the list goes on! So just what is "Ones FAIR share"??????? This mentality is exactly what is wrong with our once great nation! You have, so you have to give to me. Not.... you work, so maybe I should work a little harder!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakunamatata80909 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I agree with you. There is no way in hell I would let my own country treat me like a dog and microchip me or my family. That is to much like end of times stuff. Imagine that. As far as the taxes go, I would rather pay the capital gains and be done with it. Then they can only get you for the interest you earn on your money or investments. Invest wisely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Maybe I'm wrong, but one post explains that this law has to be put to a vote, correct They would vote yes on something that will effect the $ in there own accounts Is this a smoke & mirrors example We must be getting close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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