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Proud Boys say they are 'standing down and standing by' after Trump's debate callout

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The Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group, pledged allegiance to President Donald Trump on Tuesday night after he told the group to "stand back and stand by" during the first presidential debate.

Many people on social media who identify with the group echoed that language, saying they were "standing down and standing by." One known social media account for the group made "Stand back. Stand by" part of its new logo.

Trump was asked by debate moderator Chris Wallace to disavow white supremacy during a part of the debate focused on race. Wallace asked whether Trump would urge white supremacist groups that inflamed violence at nationwide protests to "stand down."

Trump said to "give me a name" when asked to denounce a specific group, and former Vice President Joe Biden called out the Proud Boys.

But Trump did not denounce any far-right or white supremacist groups, and he then pivoted to talk about antifa.

"Proud Boys, stand back and stand by, but I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left, because this is not a right-wing problem. This is a left-wing problem," Trump said.

On the Proud Boys' account on the social media app Telegram, the group appeared to take the statement as marching orders.

"Standing down and standing by sir," the account wrote. The account then posted two videos of the answer, including one with the caption "God. Family. Brotherhood," in which a man howled at the TV in response to Trump's response.

Megan Squire, a computer science professor at Elon University in North Carolina who tracks online extremism, said Trump's giving the Proud Boys orders was their long-sought "fantasy."

"To say Proud Boys are energized by this is an understatement," Squire said. "They were pro-Trump before this shoutout, and they are absolutely over the moon now. Their fantasy is to fight antifa in his defense, and he apparently just asked them to do just that."

The Proud Boys, a self-described "Western chauvinist" organization, is considered a violent, nationalistic, Islamophobic, transphobic and misogynistic hate group, according to the Anti-Defamation League, a nonprofit organization that tracks extremist groups. Proud Boys members marched at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and have organized against Black Lives Matter protests in recent months.

The group recently staged a rally in Portland, Oregon, in support of Trump. About 200 people, some armed with guns, attended the rally, short of the expectations of thousands.

Proud Boys organizer Joe Biggs also posted after the debate that he was "standing by," and he said the president "basically said to go f--- them up."

"President Trump told the proud boys to stand by because someone needs to deal with ANTIFA... well sir! we're ready!!" Biggs wrote.

Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt said in a tweet that the president's answer was "astonishing."

"President Trump owes America an apology or an explanation," he said. "Now."

Trumps' comments drew widespread condemnation on social media.

Yamiche Alcindor, White House correspondent for "PBS NewsHour," tweeted that she quoted the refusal to condemn white supremacy multiple times on air.

"It was a remarkable moment for the commander in chief as white supremacy is seen by national security experts as a threat to national security," she wrote.

David French, a conservative commentator who has been critical of Trump, tweeted that Trump's comments were "a call to be ready."

"In a nation wracked by unrest, that was one of the most irresponsible and reprehensible statements I've ever seen from a president," French wrote.

Democratic politicians also weighed in.

"Let's be clear: The Proud Boys are white supremacists," tweeted Oregon Gov. Kate Brown. "Racism and hate are not forms of patriotism."

Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey tweeted: "Donald Trump was asked to condemn white supremacists tonight. He wouldn't. He must be defeated."

Biden commented on the Proud Boys reaction, responding to a journalist who tweeted out a screenshot of the group celebrating the mention.

"This. This is Donald Trump's America," Biden tweeted.

 

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7 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

“Antifa is an idea”. “Proud boys stand down and stand by”

 

Translation, both sides have their proxy fighters.  

 

Both sides are wrong.  Imo.

 

 

 

In a rare occurrence, similar to a total eclipse.......you and I are in complete agreement.   :D

 

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I have to say, at times I thought I was watching two petulant teenagers arguing over some petty thing. On the subject of The Proud Boys and AntiFa, I think that both Biden and Trump could have been better in their answers, but especially Biden with his almost complete avoidance of not only denouncing AntiFa, but even acknowledging that they exist.

 

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The Never Trumpers, Hate everything America Party been played again...4 More years....

 

 

Proud Boys Leader Refutes 'White Supremacist' Claims: 'I'm a Person of Color'

 

Prominent leaders in the Proud Boys group controversially linked to white supremacy by Fox News host Chris Wallace and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden are speaking out to disavow racism.

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Proud Boys chairman says group is misunderstood, doesn't stand for white supremacy

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Miami-Dade based Proud Boys chairman Enrique Tarrio says he didn’t take President Trump’s words of “stand back and stand by” as a call to action.

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Sorry Shabs....that White Supremacist group is headed up by a Cuban... 

 

CL

 

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The Proud Boys are a far-right,[1][2] neo-fascist[3][4][5][6] male-only[7][8] organization with ties to white supremacists[9] that promotes and engages in political violence.[10][11][12][13]

 

 It is based in the United States and also has a presence in Canada.[14] The group was started as a joke in the far-right Taki's Magazine[15] in 2016 by Vice Media co-founder and former commentator Gavin McInnes, taking its name from the song "Proud of Your Boy" from the Disney musical Aladdin.[16][17] 

 

The Proud Boys emerged as part of the alt-right, but McInnes began distancing himself from the alt-right in early 2017, saying the alt-right's focus is race while his focus is what he defines as "Western values." This re-branding effort intensified after the Unite the Right rally.[18][19]

Proud Boys
Proud Boys flag.png
Leader(s) Enrique Tarrio
Foundation 2016; 4 years ago
Motives Opposition against socialist and progressive political groups
Active regions United States and Canada
Ideology
Political position Far-right
Major actions Vandalism
Harassment
Political violence
Picketing
Aggravated assault

The group believes men—especially white men—and Western culture are under siege; their views have elements of the white genocide conspiracy theory.[20][21][22] Officially, the group rejects white supremacy, although it has significant ties with white supremacist groups.[1][2][9] Members have participated in multiple racist events and events centered around anti-left violence, with a former member organizing the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.[23] The organization glorifies violence[24][25][26][27] and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has called it an "alt-right fight club."[23][28][29]

In late November 2018, it was reported the FBI had classified the Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism.[12][30] Two weeks later at an FBI briefing in Clark County, Washington, law enforcement officials denied that it was their intent to classify the entire group in this manner and ascribed the mistake to a misunderstanding. During the briefing, FBI agents suggested using websites for more information, including the SPLC resource.[30][31] The official said that their intent was to characterize the possible threat from certain members of the group.[32]

 

The organization has been described as a hate group by NPR's The Takeaway[33] and the SPLC.[34] 

In February 2019, despite having said that he broke his ties with the group in November 2018,[35][36] McInnes filed a federal defamation suit against the SPLC over their "hate group" designation, saying that it was untrue and had damaged his career.[37] In 2019, two Proud Boys were sentenced to four years in prison for attempted gang assault, attempted assault, and other charges for a 2018 New York incident where they attacked individuals who prosecutors said were members of antifa.[38] 

 

The Proud Boys have been banned by Facebook/Instagram, Twitter and YouTube.[39]

 

 
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10 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

Sorry Shabs....that White Supremacist group is headed up by a Cuban... 

 

CL

 

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70px-Wiki_Loves_Monuments_Logo_notext.sv
 

Proud Boys

dit
 

The Proud Boys are a far-right,[1][2] neo-fascist[3][4][5][6] male-only[7][8] organization with ties to white supremacists[9] that promotes and engages in political violence.[10][11][12][13]

 

 It is based in the United States and also has a presence in Canada.[14] The group was started as a joke in the far-right Taki's Magazine[15] in 2016 by Vice Media co-founder and former commentator Gavin McInnes, taking its name from the song "Proud of Your Boy" from the Disney musical Aladdin.[16][17] 

 

The Proud Boys emerged as part of the alt-right, but McInnes began distancing himself from the alt-right in early 2017, saying the alt-right's focus is race while his focus is what he defines as "Western values." This re-branding effort intensified after the Unite the Right rally.[18][19]

Proud Boys
Proud Boys flag.png
Leader(s) Enrique Tarrio
Foundation 2016; 4 years ago
Motives Opposition against socialist and progressive political groups
Active regions United States and Canada
Ideology
Political position Far-right
Major actions Vandalism
Harassment
Political violence
Picketing
Aggravated assault

The group believes men—especially white men—and Western culture are under siege; their views have elements of the white genocide conspiracy theory.[20][21][22] Officially, the group rejects white supremacy, although it has significant ties with white supremacist groups.[1][2][9] Members have participated in multiple racist events and events centered around anti-left violence, with a former member organizing the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.[23] The organization glorifies violence[24][25][26][27] and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has called it an "alt-right fight club."[23][28][29]

In late November 2018, it was reported the FBI had classified the Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism.[12][30] Two weeks later at an FBI briefing in Clark County, Washington, law enforcement officials denied that it was their intent to classify the entire group in this manner and ascribed the mistake to a misunderstanding. During the briefing, FBI agents suggested using websites for more information, including the SPLC resource.[30][31] The official said that their intent was to characterize the possible threat from certain members of the group.[32]

 

The organization has been described as a hate group by NPR's The Takeaway[33] and the SPLC.[34] 

In February 2019, despite having said that he broke his ties with the group in November 2018,[35][36] McInnes filed a federal defamation suit against the SPLC over their "hate group" designation, saying that it was untrue and had damaged his career.[37] In 2019, two Proud Boys were sentenced to four years in prison for attempted gang assault, attempted assault, and other charges for a 2018 New York incident where they attacked individuals who prosecutors said were members of antifa.[38] 

 

The Proud Boys have been banned by Facebook/Instagram, Twitter and YouTube.[39]

 

 
History and organization

 

 
Activities and events

 

 
2020 presidential debate

 

 
Lawsuits

 

 
Subgroups

 

 
Symbolism

 

 
See also

 

 
References
 
 

Wikipedia

Content is available under CC BY-SA 3.0 unless otherwise noted.

 

 

 

 

 

No need to be sorry for a Cuban starting the PB's, CL.....You should read the Wikipedia you posted as fact though.  Not saying you will, but try not to cherry pick parts that only support your narrative.

 

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Just now, Shabibilicious said:

 

No need to be sorry for a Cuban starting the PB's, CL.....You should read the Wikipedia you posted as fact though.  Not saying you will, but try not to cherry pick parts that only support your narrative.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Cuban wasn't the founder....just the head guy now.....imagine.....a Cuban leading a white supremacy group....😁    CL

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Just now, coorslite21 said:

 

Cuban wasn't the founder....just the head guy now.....imagine.....a Cuban leading a white supremacy group....😁    CL

 

Just imagine, A Cuban leading a Western Chauvinist men only group....who believes there's an assault being perpetrated against white men.  :blink:

 

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Fox News’ John Roberts Rips Trump Defenders: ‘Stop Deflecting’ On White Supremacy Remarks

 
 
Hayley Miller
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Thu, October 1, 2020, 2:38 PM EDT
 
 

Fox News reporter John Roberts on Thursday tore into Twitter users berating him for asking White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany during a press briefing whether President Donald Trump denounces white supremacy.

“For all of you on Twitter who are hammering me for ... asking that question: I don’t care,” Roberts told Fox News’ Melissa Francis on-air after the briefing. “Because it’s a question that needs to be asked. And clearly, the president’s Republican colleagues ... are looking for an answer, too.”

“So stop deflecting,” he added, visibly frustrated. “Stop blaming the media. I’m tired of it.”

 

Trump has faced bipartisan backlash for refusing to forcefully condemn white supremacy during the first 2020 presidential debate Tuesday.

Debate moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News asked Trump if he was willing to denounce “white supremacists and militia groups” and tell them to “stand down” in places like Kenosha, Wisconsin, and Portland, Oregon — cities where heavily armed far-right extremists have shown up to anti-racism demonstrations as counterprotesters.

“Sure, I’m willing to do that,” Trump responded, “but I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing.”

Moments later, Trump instructed Proud Boys, a violent neo-fascist street gang, to “stand back and stand by” before pivoting back to the dangers posed by “antifa and the left.” Proud Boys leadership reportedly viewed the statement as both an endorsement and a call to violence.

On Wednesday, Trump attempted to walk back his comments by claiming he isn’t familiar with the Proud Boys.

“I don’t know who Proud Boys are,” Trump told reporters. “But whoever they are, they have to stand down and let law enforcement do their work.”

Roberts on Thursday called Trump’s claim of ignorance “puzzling.”

“If he didn’t know who they were, why did he denounce them?” Roberts said. “Why didn’t he say, ‘Well, I don’t know who they are. Can you give me a little bit more information about them?’ And then make a decision about it. So this all remains very puzzling.”

During the briefing Thursday, Roberts had asked McEnanay for a “definitive and declarative statement” about whether Trump denounces white supremacy and all groups that espouse it.

McEnanay appeared to shrug off the controversy surrounding Trump’s remarks during the debate earlier in the week, listing a few past statements the president has made condemning bigotry.

“The president was asked this. He said ‘sure’ three times,” McEnany said. She later stated that Trump “has condemned white supremacy more than any president in modern history.”

But Roberts continued to press her: “Can you right now denounce white supremacy and the group that espouses it?”

“I just did,” McEnany said. “The president has denounced white supremacy, the KKK and hate groups in all forms. ... His record on this is unmistakable.”

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-john-roberts-trump-white-supremacy-183812673.html

 

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Dinar said:

 

Sound familiar???

 

Stand Back and Stand By' Already Selling on Extremist Proud Boys T-Shirts,  Thanks to Trump

Maybe new shirts should be printed up for Antifa and BLM saying STOP BURNING BUILDINGS ,LOOTING AND DESTROYING PEOPLES LIVELIHOOD

so PB shirts won’t have to say STAND BY

 

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2 hours ago, Shelley said:

Maybe new shirts should be printed up for Antifa and BLM saying STOP BURNING BUILDINGS ,LOOTING AND DESTROYING PEOPLES LIVELIHOOD

so PB shirts won’t have to say STAND BY

 

 

I'm not concerned with those fools... We know where they stand, my concern is that during the debate, our president used their motto... That should concern any American who hopes to create a united country... I can say the protesters/rioters are wrong in their approach, can you say the same thing about PB?

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35 minutes ago, Johnny Dinar said:

 

I'm not concerned with those fools... We know where they stand, my concern is that during the debate, our president used their motto... That should concern any American who hopes to create a united country... I can say the protesters/rioters are wrong in their approach, can you say the same thing about PB?

What concerns me more is Biden saying Antifa is an idea , at that same debate 

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