dontlop Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 You seem to be worried Rockfla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Will anyone with the real truth about the dinar please speak up Enough of this I we don't know crap then saying ya can't prove it so I'm going to wait another decade or two what ever it takes One can spend their entire life waiting for something that has no date on it Like when God will return , no one knows the date so stay in touch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocono Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 bump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Rockfish, You buffoons(LOPsters) & no one else run yourselves off with your continuous lies, never ending same negative babble, & your massive self proclaimed egos. Quit crying so much & man up. I'm vested...............you..........not so much, so why you whinning like a spoiled little kid. No one keeps you from conversing with other LOPsters, sorry don't have that kind of power. LOPsters/Gurus seem to think they have cornered the market on how & when this venture will turn out. Both groups are just blowhards looking for attention and spewing "I'm here to help others" BS. The rest of us are just here for the ride. Rockfish, If your so worried about your brothers(LOPsters) that have left (most return-lol), why not start a support group? Or here's a novice idea, why not start up your own LOPster web site where you & your kind can babble to your hearts content & save the WORLD all in one motion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Will anyone with the real truth about the dinar please speak up Enough of this I we don't know crap then saying ya can't prove it so I'm going to wait another decade or two what ever it takes One can spend their entire life waiting for something that has no date on it Like when God will return , no one knows the date so stay in touch DL ::: I've tried. The TRUTH is the dinar is going NOWHERE. NO RV/RI/LOP. But I think you have already realized that. Good ole 1166. IF you're lucky.. There is a possibility the could DEVALUE the dinar to save the budget, a disaster for dinarians! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Dinarians ? You sound more and more like ewingm every day You sound like pudge too What gives Are you all just robots ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 DL ::: I've tried. The TRUTH is the dinar is going NOWHERE. NO RV/RI/LOP. But I think you have already realized that. Good ole 1166. IF you're lucky.. There is a possibility the could DEVALUE the dinar to save the budget, a disaster for dinarians! You're starting to hit your LOPster stride.......display your badge proudly, while you're still around. GO RV, and NO BV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 You're starting to hit your LOPster stride.......display your badge proudly, while you're still around. GO RV, and NO BV NO LOP. They dont need more confusion with the economy cratering. Also don't think the CBI can afford it now .... NO RV/RI Til someone can explain WHERE the money will come from. Could they DEVALUE? Possibly . Since the dinar only has a value inside of Iraq It would not change anything internationally. So I dont think the IMF would care. If they upped the rate to 1300 they would get 12% more dinar per dollar at auction. It would also slow down the dollars leaving the country. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Lol where the money comes from Ah ha ha ha Where does all money come from ? A freaking printing press where do ya think it comes from Where did everyones money come from There govt printed it They are debt notes There is no money that is your imagination So you ask where is Iraqs debt going to come from ? The 33 million people in iraq , that's where How will iraq pay its debts ? By selling oil for the most part The dinar they have now is already paid for 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 DL :::BUT Dinarians want to get dollars for their dinar. Iraq cant print dollars!. If Iraq prints more dinar without backing it thats INFLATION. The value of the dinar will go DOWN. Tell me how they will be able to EXCHANGE dinar for dollars??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Your goofy No country with a local currency has to give foriegn currency for their local currency especially since they fall under IMF article 14 They can get goods and services in iraq for their dinars Or from anyone else that accepts them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Electronic..............no actual physical dollars will be presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 No one has to give any one anything they don't want to All iraq is required to do is exchange the iraqi dinar for goods and services It's a local currency that's backed by fiat currency and maybe 2% is backed by gold But any way it's no different than the usa or any other country China has over two trillion U.S. dollars they cannot demand the usa exchanges them for chinese yaun The USA does not print up chinese yaun Now if China wants to sell their dollars on the forex they can as long as they have a buyer Or if China wants to buy goods and services in the USA the dollar s excepted everywhere in the USA And there's lots of places around the world that excepts dollars for goods and services Same goes for iraq you can try to sell your dinar for dollars but you got to find a buyer, iraq doesn't issue dollars They do sell dollars on the cbi auction every day so wait your turn, the auctions are limited each day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Once you got someone else's currency your kinda stuck with it Unless you find someone who needs it All China can really do is sell dollars to the chinese people who want to buy something from the USA or the Chinese govt can buy things like ships or Boeing 787s Or mining equipment or catapiller excavation equipment or trucks or building materials or grain or anything like a couple car lots full of brand new cars and trucks That's how China can get rid of the trillions of dollars they have And sooner or later everyone will see how they can get rid of their dinars in iraq I don't see a bunch of cash out centers springing up to gather up the iraqi dinars for dollars , that's going to be a limited market That dream that iraq isn't going to be able to cash out trillions of dollars worth of dinars is bogus They will take your orders for sulfer or dates or figs or what ever they got to sell to the world How about oil , does the USA turn down currency for petro dollars ? If so which currency isn't legitimate to purchase for petro dollars since all oil is sold in dollars , all currencies are exchangable for petrodollars So oil importers may be interested in buying dinar to exchange into petro dollars to import oil Oh the cash in centers is in my opinion a farse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Electronic..............no actual physical dollars will be presented. HUH Dollars are dollars in any form.. If I move electronic dollars from one account to another . There must be REAL dollars in the account. "electronic dollars" are just the movement of "real" dollars from one account to another. NO NEW dollars are created. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) If I had some Colombian pesos can I convert them into petro dollars and buy oil ? How about if I had any currency and wanted to buy oil could I convert it into petro dollars if I wanted to buy some oil? PETRODOLLAR DEFINITION | The money that oil exporting nations receive from selling their oil which is then deposited into Western banks. Two years later, in an effort to maintain global demand for U.S. dollars, another system was created called the petrodollar system. In 1973, a deal was struck between Saudi Arabia and the United States in which every barrel of oil purchased from the Saudis would be denominated in U.S. dollars. Under this new arrangement, "any country "that sought to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia would be required to first exchange their own national currency for U.S. dollars. In exchange for Saudi Arabia's willingness to denominate their oil sales exclusively in U.S. dollars, the United States offered weapons and protection of their oil fields from neighboring nations, including Israel. By 1975, "all of the OPEC nations "had agreed to price their own oil supplies exclusively in U.S. dollars in exchange for weapons and military protection. This petrodollar system, or more simply known as an "oil for dollars" system, created an immediate artificial demand for U.S. dollars around the globe. And of course, as global oil demand increased, so did the demand for U.S. dollars Edited January 9, 2015 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 WHEN do you expect to transfer dinars for dollars to buy anything unless you are in Iraq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 The artificial demand for dollars Who ever buys them from us will Just convert them to petrodollars It wouldn't be an impossibility for an oil importer to buy dinar at a discounted rate to increase the profits on buying oil Who says it has to be a bank buying our dinar or a currency dealer Why not find an oil importer and make a deal Why anyone thinks iraq has to provide dollars is beyond me , they can just provide oil for dinars by way of the petrodollar They convert them into petro dollars then after the sale goes thru they buy the dinar back with the dollars they got from the oil sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) HUH Dollars are dollars in any form.. If I move electronic dollars from one account to another . There must be REAL dollars in the account. "electronic dollars" are just the movement of "real" dollars from one account to another. NO NEW dollars are created. yea ok... tell the FED reserve that, they keep printing out of thin air.. gotta love that fiat system http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/DXY:CUR what a joke. Edited January 9, 2015 by easyrider 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 You would think iraq would be buying up dinar like crazy if they were getting ready to rv If you were iraq and you needed to buy up the dinar wouldn't you want to buy it while the rate is 1166 instead of rving to a dollar and trying to buy up 50 trillion dinar at a dollar each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 You would think iraq would be buying up dinar like crazy if they were getting ready to rv If you were iraq and you needed to buy up the dinar wouldn't you want to buy it while the rate is 1166 instead of rving to a dollar and trying to buy up 50 trillion dinar at a dollar each You would think iraq would be buying up dinar like crazy if they were getting ready to rv If you were iraq and you needed to buy up the dinar wouldn't you want to buy it while the rate is 1166 instead of rving to a dollar and trying to buy up 50 trillion dinar at a dollar each Shhhhhh! It's a secret. Noone is supposed to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 maybe they are going to pull a rabbit out of their hat And all those polititions are going to come clean and give their money to the cbi for a rv Hey Maliki has 50 billion dollars in cash He can build a thousand macdonalds for a couple billion and build a thousand Kentucky fried chicken restaurants and build a thousand Home Depots and build a thousand walmarts Why doesn't that moron unleash the private sector and put some people to work to get that gdp up where it needs to be and that goes for barzani too What's wrong with those idiots over there Where's the beef ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 With obama fascist health care law in place The fact that everyone is required to buy health insurance significantly increases the gdp for years to come It gives the govt the icing on the cake to borrow this country into total destruction of the dollar using its debt to GDP analysis Wonder what's is going to be next on the govt list You have to rent an apartment land move off the streets? They will get rid of freedom in one way or another Sure if everyone is entitled to health care they surely must be entitled to proper housing , how else can you maintain good health sleeping outside in the rain with bugs and spiders We will have law and order some day where your good tray will be delivered to your room And if your outside of your room you must be breaking the law in some way or you wouldn't be out of your room If you miss a meal it will be some sort of violation and if you miss two meals in a row you will be arrested and force fed these meals are Taylor made for each individual with the proper amount of medication to make sure you comply with your daily routine Work and sleep First we got to get you under govt control It's got to be gradual say over a fifty or one hundred year process The women will be artificially installed with baby's for future generations Now vote for free health care obama style Liar style what ever ya call it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Once the govt got everyone paying bills and eating properly they will release them again to be free around 150 years or so they should by habit do things in a correct way But being free means the dumb people will make dumb decisions and raise their offspring to be dumb So if your smart , join the smart people and take your share of the money and live good and just let the dumb people be as dumb as they choose to be Let the dumb people eat like hogs till they just fall down and can't get up Edited January 10, 2015 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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