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Thanks Thug & Breitling,  I like the part that says " One
of these days there is going to be a hard revaluation, go up one big
shot, even though we can handle it pipping up.  It's going to happen
and you guys are sitting on it.  For us there is nothing better.

 

Reminds me of Jackie Gleason, when he told Alice  " ONE OF THESE DAYS------POW, right in the Kisser " I'm gonna say it will happen just like that, I hope.....

 



 

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Well at least he got one thing right.  They like the fact that investors traded USD for IQD. 

  

Can anybody tell me one thing that Breitling ever got right concerning the dinar?

Wtf ? :blink:

Don't U Remember That YOU Confirmed That He Got Something Right Earlier In This Same Thread ? :o

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Can anybody tell me one thing that Breitling ever got right concerning the dinar?

Nope.. But he's sure been wrong a lot:

 

4-27-2011  I think we’re in a position between may 1st to june 30…my rate has been between .86-euro from day one…i am watching the laws being passed…the auctions at this point are for inflation and just in case they need dollars…so it is not in play too much for the rv…

 

 

 

5-4-2011  They need a full gov seated…. this is part of the agreement to have chapter 7 fully lifted , iraq has to lift themselves out by passing law and policy…Best guess sometime in june at .86 cents

 

 

 

5-18-2011  best guess–June,..rate .86 to euro…Still waiting on DFI and Security…at this point I do not see this going past June 30th.

 

 

 

5-24-2011  I have been focused on June of this year since last August…we are moving at light speed…From June 1st to June 30th be on the look out [for]: Iraq should be International on the WTO (World Trade Organization) list. Security Ministry seats should be voted on during this period of time. Pre DFI expiration maneuvering will be evident.

 

 

 

5-25-2011  the iraq’s sent imf a letter of intent, which is what we have been waiting for…its Iraq that is slowing things down….the RV can not happen unless the ministers are seated…no rv before June 1…odds are very good for an RV before July 1, 2011…it is all looking good…. I am pumped

 

 

 

6-1-2011  JUNE 1ST TO JUNE 30TH…99% sure… NEVER BEEN CLOSER AND YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY, BECAUSE THIS IS REAL….86 TO THE EURO I THINK THE EURO IS 1.34 RIGHT NOW…What’s left to do to RV? SEATING OF SECURITY , LAW PASSED ON THE CURRENCY , DFI TRANSFERED TO THE NEW ACCOUNTS

 

 

 

7-8-2011  What are we looking for in the future?

 **Seated Security Ministers

 **Complete, Full Government

 **Also, we need to watch laws being passed on currency or exchange laws They have talked about the banks changing how they will be functioning…Nothing but good news is coming out of Iraq, follow the money!!!!!! The world is setting up shop in Iraq and your sitting on the currency. Well played!

 

 

 

7-24-2011  We probably won’t see another revaluation like this, what we are going through right now, ever again. They will probably keep the story down. They didn’t plan on you and me getting into this investment.

 

 

8-16-2011   For those comparing Turkey to Iraq…Iraq does not have inflation problems, they are getting rid of physical notes so they can revalue. Iraq is gaining in value, they are going to RD so they can RV. I don’t think we will have access to smaller denoms, right off the bat, I think you will be forced to cash in the larger notes at whatever rate it comes in. CBI said they want to get the dinar equivalent to the U.S. dollar. They said their goal is to come out at a buck.

 

 

 

9-10-2011  Iraq is in play to help the Global community. This is the most exciting time, the closest time to the RV that we hae been. They have the law in Parlament to retire the larger notes. They are not going to take the 000's off the notes, they are going to retire the notes and introduces the new notes and it’s going to cause a revaluation. I am very very excited this ride may be over soon.

 

 

 

9-12-11  We are that close that I am heading to Vegas to talk to my advisors. There is going to be more than one currency to revalue. They are going to adjust currency amounts all over the world. It’s going to be a very controlled global revaluation. Some currencies will go up and some will go down. Watch Parlament in Iraq, it’s the biggest moves that we are seeing for our investment…They had a special meeting Sunday about changing the currencies out. You people are educated enough to figure out what the rate could be and stick with it, have confidence with yourself. CBI is pushing the momemtum…to get this job done…you should be excited, I am.

 

 

 

9-14-2011  This last weekend was the biggest weekend of this investment…Shabibi going to parliament and telling them how the revaluation is going to work, the dedollarization and the re denomination and how their country is going to benefit…let’s watch and see what happens…

 

 

 

10-1-2011  Sooner or later it’s going to revalue. Shabibi has said they are going to revalue and they are going to try to peg it to the dollar, what time frame, I don’t know. Also, the time frame to turn in the large notes, I don’t know either, traditionally it has been 30 days up to 9 months, is what they have always done. Always been 1 to 1 exchange, the new rate. Alot of specutation it will start at the beginning of the year, but I don’t know how far they can go, the world is in trouble. Some countries will go up, some will go down, it’s a global event. Iraq is a major part of that. Iraq doesn’t get to choose when they get out of chapter 7, that is bogus, we will force them out of it, but when they do revalue there has to be a true supply and demand for the market to keep a true reflection of the currency so it stays that way or it will fall. No guarantee on the time or the rate, but I think it is coming down the road.

 

 

 

10-16-2011  It’s not going to revalue until the Erbil agreement and the Security seats are announced or about to be announced. It might be a one shot deal, keep watching that, it’s policy watch, we are not guessing here. Once it gets past that, they have an Erbil agreement, then you are in the status to where we can wake up any morning and the Security seat could be seated, the UN gets Iraq out of Chapter 7, it could all be done over night, but until the get the Erbil agreement is signed, we are just waiting.

 

 

 

10-21-2011  Last report I got was they are going to push really really hard for the beginning of the year to start this revaluation process. Let’s just hope they get there. They will go through a process, but the reality is it only takes one day. They open the books, they show everybody what they are really worth, they revalue the currency, they write a law, retire the large notes, send out the lower notes and compete against the US dollar with the new rate – it takes one day, one pop, but we need to get there first.

 

 

 

10-23-2011  Erbil Agreement, HCL, they are working on this now and then you will see the Security Seats formed and there is a good chance it will all be done before the beginning of the year, that’s what they are pushing for. they have always failed to meet their deadlines, but as far as a LOP, I just don’t see it. I only hope that they do what they said they are going to do and that is revalue at a buck, you see it in their budget, it is about $.86 to $1.17, which is what they always stated they would do and all we can do is watch and see what happens.

 

 

 

12-23-2011  The rate comes from CBI & the currency comes from Parlament, Maliki doesn’t have anything to do with this. All these countries have dinar, China, Great Britain, not just Americans, they just can’t shut it off & screw the world & then say come to Iraq & do business – does that make sense, no, it doesn’t. Tax code 8938 has nothing to do with the dinar you hold. Can they RV without getting out of Chapter 7, yes they can, but they can’t get out of Chapter 7 unless they RV. I believe they are going to revalue no matter how bad their turmoil gets, a civil war will not stop it, the value of the money is still there. I still don’t see anything holding it up. I think value wise, they made a mistake by not doing it already. I love that they are pumping dollars into the local economy because of the trillion or so dinar that they have taken off the streets – that should be fantastic news for you!!

 

 

 

12-2-2011  December 15th is the next window – the troops are leaving, Shabibi said when the troops leave. That’s why you are seeing alot of activity between politicians in Iraq and the U. S. They will have no excuses after the 15th. Rate is going to be about $.86 to $1.17. Reality is they can come in higher than that, but they have to take baby steps.

 

 

 

1-11-2012  the Central Bank came out in an article with the best statement ever…they are going to do a revaluation…they ended the preparations at the end of the year…this is straight from the CBI…you should be very excited right now…IMO they can go a long ways without revaluing, but eventually the UN will step in…I can’t see it lasting very long.

 

 

 

1-20-2012  The auctions moved from 1170 to 1166. It’s a dirty float, it’s not the real rate, there is no common sense about it. It’s not reflecting the market, it means absosutely nothing. Iraq can revalue at any time…they obviously have a plan. We can only go by what we know & we don’t know everything. They are getting rid of the money supply, that tells us that the dinars are worth something.

 

 

 

2-6-2012  It’s got to be a 1 – 1 exchange, that’s the law, that’s the way they have to do it. They have to reduce the money supply and then count everything that is out there. They have to give the people a legal notice that it changed & then give them a time frame to cash out. They will get it done & they will get it done by the end of 2012. They are going to reduce the money supply & that is what will trigger the value of our currency going up. Watching the currency supply is the most important thing, I don’t think it is Chapter 7. You should be watching Parliament, the CBI, the laws being passsed & the money supply & this should help you get off of the roller coaster ride. There is nothing but positive info coming out. Nothing but good news.

 

 

 

2-14-2012  We should see the RV prior to June because they have said this phase, Phase II, ends in June, but they have never kept a target date on anything. If it doesn’t happen, don’t be discouraged, it will happen one way or another, hope for the best.

 

 

 

2-16-2012  They need to get out of Article 8. Article 8 is the article that means they are actually internationally recognized through the IMF in conjunction with the UN, that’s it and what laws they are passing to get the currency out, other than that, it’s up to the CBI for them to finish that process. They are going to revalue, there’s a reason why the CBI has described a process here where the dinar will be worth more money. Why even go through a process if no value is going to be added. I never gave a rate, I can only go by what the CBI has stated, the Minister of Planning, it was $1.17, how can you misquote that.

 

 

 

3-1-2012  Iraqi’s are still using dinar, you can’t pull all of it off, it would cause harm. They have to maintain some type of liquidity within the country until they pass the law. Shabibi and Saleh keep talking about getting rid of the 3 [0 notes?] notes. The whole process is to raise the value of the currency. In Iraq, it is going to be an even swap, it’s going to be $1.17 for the old currency & they will have a certain amount of time to get in the new currency & it’s going to be $1.17.

 

 

 

3-9-2012  It’s not going to be an RI, it will RV & they are not going to lop it. They are not going to come out and try & match the Kuwait rate. It would create an imbalance in the region and that’s why it will be a managed float. Iraq will go through a growth spurt & then guess what – then Iraq will be worth more than Kuwait. I am willing to bet they will come out at a buck & then grow into the $3 rate. I’ve talked to the top economist around & this is where we disagree, they think they will come out at 3 bucks – lets hope these guys are right.

 

 

 

3-13-2012  I read an article that said the deletion of the zeroes would have a negative effect of the currency…this is ridiculous. Shabibi went to Parliament and told them how they would benefit, how the country would benefit and has started executing it. They told everyone what they were doing, so there is no turning back now. Be careful about reading articles about timing…we are in the season. Shabibi said it will be in the second phase, Phase II, so it will be in June sometime or just before. It is an area on the calendar, not a confirmed date. Shabibi is going to revalue the currency one way or another.

 

 

 

3-15-2012  They have told everyone what they are going to do…watch to see what Shabibi says. The plan that he put together is top notch, but everyone under him is screwing it up plus there are political agendas. Is there anyway they can revalue in 3-& April? No, I don’t think they can, I believe there is still alot to be done before they can pull the trigger. They put a committee together to educate everyone. Now it’s the educational process & then just getting it done…it’s going to start in Sept., from his words, but legally it will begin in June. It’s a process… everything will be in place by then. I keep saying a buck, but there’s no guarantee for that, they can mess around with that because it’s going to be a managed float. But the target rate is a buck.

 

 

 

3-29-2012  Everybody is just waiting. IMO, I think that it’s going to be in the second half of this year based on what these guys are saying. I think it all has to do with getting out of Chapter 7…the summit and all these meetings are setting them up, positioning themselves. They have put all this info on the table & let everyone know they are going to raise the value of their currency. Our #1 focus is when are they going to revalue their currency & second, the value of it. I’m still looking past June for it to revalue, if their going to do it this year. Shabibi put these guys in a corner & they can’t get out of it, they can push it down the road a bit, but they can’t get out of it. I’m not going to change my mind on the timeframe & the rate, there is too much info out there, too many articles with evidence.

 

 

 

4-2-2012  They’re going to do it…There are still dominoes that have to fall in order, correctly, to be internationally recognized, correctly. Basically, I feel it’s the second half of this year. I don’t depend on Iraq, they have missed too many dates.

 

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i loved it. he shouldve been able to give himself two pluses. what a great reminder of the countless wrong information thats tonys used. Its good for the newbies to see these people track records.

everyone has been wrong i mean how could you possibly be right every time with a  country like Iraq but to make bold statements as this man will end up in prison is obviously an extreme accusation.  

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Being wrong is one thing.  Being a scammer is another. 

Exactly....easy likes living in a delusional world filled with nonsense and conspiracy.

Tony "Breitling" Elder has been pumping for Roger Dorman at another site for some time although it wasn't clear that he was pumping for Roger because he was pumping The Currency Vault which later became known as The Treasury Vault which is owned by Angela Dorman who is married to Roger Dorman which is kind of like Bill Clinton campaigning for Hillarious because he wants to get back in the White House only the Clintons make it clear that they're related but the Dormans don't.  (I hope you're taking notes because this WILL BE on the test!)  Tony lives in Las Vegas but is from Lake Havasu City, Arizona.  Do a search on Lake Havasu City and dinar and you'll see that a lot of dinar is sold on ebay from there.  Hmmmm .... Anyway, Breitling has been pumping the lower denoms for some time now, and it's no coincidence that lower denom sales have increased exponentially this year, at a considerable markup I might add. 

I think a lot of people are familiar with Breitling pumping the lower denoms but they might not be as aware of his recent pumping of the ISX report.  The ISX is the Iraqi Stock Exchange, and the ISX report gives investors valuable information on how to get set up with an account to invest on the ISX.  Now of course there's nothing wrong with making this information available to the public, and there's nothing wrong with making a profit.  But the way that you do it should be ethical, and the way that Tony and Roger have gone about this is anything but.

First of all, all of this information is readily available for free on the internet at www.iraqstockx.com and www.isxwatch.com.  No need to pay $49.95 to these guys.  Okay, that's not so bad.  I mean if we start hanging everybody who has sold something that was available for free on the internet there wouldn't be enough left to bury the dead, right?  But here's the really bad part.  Roger says of the ISX Report "The guys at The ISX Report have put together the most amazing report about the Country of Iraq and more specifically the Iraqi Stock Exchange (ISX)."  And who are the guys at the ISX Report, Rog?  Could it be you and Tony "Breitling" Elder?  Just like you guys compiled this report from what others had written, you could have easily compiled the ISX report from what was already posted on the internet.  That would explain why Tony's company "Select Play Media" (the name he uses on his YouTube page) is mentioned on the PayPal page for the ISX Report when you order it. 

When I discovered Tony "Breitling" Elder's Facebook page he stated that he was CEO of Gameroxx Entertainment. The address for Gameroxx on Manta shows Lake Havasu City, AZ. The principal is lested as Ted Elder who I believe is Tony's dad.

http://www.manta.com/g/mr40j14/ted-elder

http://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory/gameroxxentertainmentinc-lakehavasucity-az-33251259.html

In searching through the results for Gameroxx in Google I found this page.

http://www.dailymotion.com/gameroxx#video=xbb7ae

If you watch the video it displays the following URL.

http://digitalppm.webs.com/contact.htm

In The Breitling Catalog I mentioned that B talked about how he used to write PPMs, or Private Placement Memorandums to raise venture capital. No big surprise then that a PPM company is showing on a site for Gameroxx, huh? But what is interesting is that the email on that contact page can also be found on a couple of ISX Report sites.

http://isxreport.com/contact-us/

http://theisxreport.webs.com/contactus.htm

I did a WhoIs search for ISX Report's domain name and as I expected it has a private listing. But being the curious bugger that I am I decided to snoop around on their website and I discovered that their web design company is The Active Media. I did a search in WhoIs and wouldn't you know it? Their registrant is located in Bullhead City, Arizona about an hour away from Lake Havasu City. Better yet, their Facebook page lists them in .... you guessed it .. Lake Havasu City.

Both Breitling and Roger Dorman have talked about this great report compiled by "the guys at the ISX Report". B has even stated that Jeff got mad at him because he told people not to buy until it goes on sale. It just so happens that the guy who owns The Active Media is named Jeff. Very interesting. It would appear from the above links that Gameroxx, The ISX Report, and DigitalPPM are all connected so exactly who are "these guys"?

If Tony didn't compile this report then he's business partners with the people who did.  Business ethics requires what we call "full disclosure" which means that if you have a business interest in something then you let people know that up front, like when ABC News discloses that they're owned by Disney every time they do a story on Disney.  Pretending to just mention a product that somebody else is producing and profiting from when it's really your product and your profit is a sleazy douchebag business tactic.  It's the same thing Roger Dorman did when he introduced Angela from The Currency Vault and "interviewed" her about their business without telling his listening audience that Angela's last name is Dorman too.  (What a coincidence, huh?) But enough about Roger Dorman.  Let's get back to Breitling.

Now I know that a lot of you out there are saying "I like Breitling.  He doesn't give bogus rates and dates like Okie and TerryK.  And he explains this investment to me in a reasonable way."  Exactly.  That's his hook.  Just like Adam Montana built the largest dinar forum on the net by capitalizing on the disgruntled investors who got tired of being played by the pumpers only to pump his own products, Tony "Breitling" Elder also figured out that people would get tired of the rate and date game and there was a market for "real" information.  And now he's cashing in bigtime.  Only not all of the information he gives you is real.

In his 10/6/2011 afternoon YouTube video he said that you could buy the IQD with one or two zeros and put them into a Warka account and that would protect you against a lop.  Really B?  Really?  Do you not understand that a lop is a redenomination wherein all of the bills will be replaced and all of the electronic currency will reflect that?

Also, according to Breitling they have removed 70% of the large bills from circulation in Iraq.  First of all that makes no sense.  How could they function?  It would be like removing all of our currency except for the coins.  You'd have to load up bags full of coins every time you go to the grocery store.  (Remember, Iraqis don't use electronic banking like we do.  Their society is cash oriented.)  And secondly, just ask anybody in Iraq if the larger denoms are rare.  They'll tell you that they're everywhere, and that the people of Iraq depend on them for their daily transactions.

Another piece of really bad information from Breitling is that the average Iraqi is living off of 2 dinar a day.  That translates to less than 1/5 of a penny.  Does that make sense?  Well it shouldn't.  According to Aswat al-Iraq the average Iraqi's income is closer to $2300 (about 2.7 million dinar) a year or $6 (7020 dinar) a day, so Mr. B was only off by 7018 dinar a day or $2225 a year. 

In researching Tony Elder I came upon this post on www.scam.com.  It seems he was involved in some internet startup venture that is now defunct, but caught the eyes of scam watchers.  While this doesn't prove that he's a scammer, this and his Facebook listing as CEO of GameRoxx Entertainment shed some light on his internet entrepreneurial aspirations which I think adds context to what he's doing today.

In closing I'd like for you to just ask yourselves, "would a guy go to all the trouble to record two YouTube videos a day, run a dinar blog, do God knows how many conference calls and interviews, and spend countless hours 'researching' the dinar just to be a nice guy and inform people about their investment?"  I think the answer is obvious.  Breitling is a pumper.  He pumps lower denoms, he pumps the Currency/Treasury Vault and other another site crap, and he pumps the ISX report.  He is also known for his usage of the line "while you wait ... accumulate" which reminds one of another douchebag named Johnny Cochran who, in defending O.J. Simpson said "If it doesn't fit you must acquit".  (Douchebags love to make rhymes.  Remember when Vanilla Ice said "drop the zero and get with the hero" or when Jesse Jackson said "down with dope, up with hope"?)  The smoking gun for me is when I saw Angela (alongside of Roger) Dorman from the Treasury Vault listed as one of his friends on Facebook.  He's in bed with Roger on plenty, and they're both raking it in at the investors' expense.

http://twitter.com/#!/AgentBreitling (Closed since he was ID'd)

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1257223126 (Edited since he was ID'd)

http://www.breitlingcurrency.blogspot.com/

http://www.youtube.com/user/SelectPlayMedia#p/u (Closed since he was ID'd)

http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/84171-isx-report-is-a-scam-by-breitling/

 

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