Chape Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Wednesday, May 4, 2011 “Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s” Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job. Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT. Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world. Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus. The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik. Read More: Go here.............http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/04/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/ 8 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candinar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Careful with Truth....you just get bashed, sheep style. Posted this the other day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajskj Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Uh huh. Then...how is it that the home videos just released show bin laden image and a then unknown President Obama on the screen?? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candinar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Uh huh. Then...how is it that the home videos just released show bin laden image and a then unknown President Obama on the screen?? My question is why is the "Bin Laden" character holding the remote in his Right hand, he was left handed!!. And he rubs his beard with his left hand..so it does work. And where is his dialysis machine? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPSprayduster Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) Earl, what do you think? I think is it a load of HSh*T. If this guy knew so much why all of a sudden jump up to the podium. Osama was chased out of tora bora in 2001 and rode off to pakistan on a horse. If he was dead so long then i guess the GOP lead adminstration pulled a doozie on us. If they did do this, then everyone would have known thanks to pumpers like Chape the stool piegon. Edited May 9, 2011 by TPSprayduster 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajskj Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 My question is why is the "Bin Laden" character holding the remote in his Right hand, he was left handed!!. And he rubs his beard with his left hand..so it does work. And where is his dialysis machine? Apparently...the statements he made that he was not on dialysis were right. And where did you get that he was left handed?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speculatorsRIDE Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Sadly, 9/11 was so horrendous that the American people will not want to or be able to comprehend this. No further comment at this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polecat85 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Wednesday, May 4, 2011 “Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s” Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job. Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT. Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world. Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus. The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik. Read More: Go here.............http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/04/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/ There's a reason he is only being taken seriously on conspiracy websites. Just because he worked in government, doesn't mean he isn't a kook. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.cliff Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Let's just look at this in this way --the world is rid of a mad man---it really doesn't matter if he was killed way back when [tora bora]even with the released tapes of him still stating al-quada's agenda and listening to his retoric--let's take it as a good sign that there are no new tapes released now that he is not only still alive but planing new ways to bring their war to the infidals Let's not give credit to his demise to any one person ---let's be proud when bin lauden declared war and started back in 911 that as americans we perservied to bring that mad man down --it was an AMERICAN TEAM EFFORT to rid the WORLD of this cancer! All AMERICANS from the politictians to the families of the 911 traegity, to our intellience poeple and our soldiers, to our citizens who would not allow this outrage to go unpunished, everyone contrubited to bin laudens fianal moments and should continue to do so--screw with one of us you screw with all of us ,we will take you down, we will rid the world of these cancers! Not sorry for the rant , more proud of the warning we should always stand tall ,be proud and take more interest in domestic events, world events and keep this country strong! Capt. Cliff Let's just look at this in this way --the world is rid of a mad man---it really doesn't matter if he was killed way back when [tora bora]even with the released tapes of him still stating al-quada's agenda and listening to his retoric--let's take it as a good sign that there are no new tapes released now that he is not only still alive but planing new ways to bring their war to the infidals Let's not give credit to his demise to any one person ---let's be proud when bin lauden declared war and started back in 911 that as americans we perservied to bring that mad man down --it was an AMERICAN TEAM EFFORT to rid the WORLD of this cancer! All AMERICANS from the politictians to the families of the 911 traegity, to our intellience poeple and our soldiers, to our citizens who would not allow this outrage to go unpunished, everyone contrubited to bin laudens fianal moments and should continue to do so--screw with one of us you screw with all of us ,we will take you down, we will rid the world of these cancers! Not sorry for the rant , more proud of the warning we should always stand tall ,be proud and take more interest in domestic events, world events and keep this country strong! Capt. Cliff 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candinar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Apparently...the statements he made that he was not on dialysis were right. And where did you get that he was left handed?? Oh like his first video where he claimed to have nothing to do with 9/11 and him being left handed is old news...do some research, it can't hurt. Maybe google where the FBI admitted to making fake Bin Laden videos, again old news. I'll stop there, been here done it for years...there is a reason most of you people are referred to as sheep. Red button is below...baa baa 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezymoney Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 gotta raise the BS flag on this one...especially if Alex Jones is associated with it! you conspiracy theorists need to get a life 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candinar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) gotta raise the BS flag on this one...especially if Alex Jones is associated with it! you conspiracy theorists need to get a life Keep your head in the sand...truth is not conspiracy, look it up. Enjoy your Fema camp...oh maybe you say thats a conspiracy to? Pfft. No hope. Edited May 9, 2011 by Candinar 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutie Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Sadly, 9/11 was so horrendous that the American people will not want to or be able to comprehend this. No further comment at this time. Thank you for that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candinar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Last research for me...waiting for Forex at 3am to see the RV. But here it goes...: In July of 2001, Osama Bin Laden was flown to the American Hospital in Dubai for kidney treatment. According to French intelligence sources, he was there met by the local CIA attache. When the agent bragged about his encounter to friends later, he was promptly recalled to Washington. On the eve of September 11, Osama Bin Laden was staying in a Pakistani military hospital under the watchful eye of Pakistan’s ISI, the Pakistani equivalent of the CIA with deep ties to the American intelligence community. In October 2001, Bin Laden appeared in a videotape wearing army fatigues and Islamic headdress, looking visibly pale and gaunt. In December of 2001, another videotape was released, this time showing a seriously ill Bin Laden who was seemingly unable to move his left arm. Then on December 26, 2001, Fox News reported on a Pakistan Observer story that the Afghan Taliban had officially pronounced Osama Bin Laden dead earlier that month. According to the report, he was buried less than 24 hours later in an unmarked grave in accordance with Wahabbist Sunni practices. What followed was a string of pronouncements from officials affirming what was already obvious: supposedly living in caves and bunkers in the mountainous pass between Afghanistan and Pakistan, Osama would have been deprived of the dialysis equipment that he required to live. On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced quite bluntly: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.” On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that “I personally think he [bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore,” before carefully adding that “I have no evidence to support that.” In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [bin Laden] probably is dead.” In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year. In September 2006, French intelligence leaked a report suggesting Osama had died in Pakistan. On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-Jazeera’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden. In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.” In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.” Now in 2011, President Obama has added himself to the mix of people in positions of authority who have pronounced Osama Bin Laden dead. Some might charge that none of the previous reports had any credibility, but as it is now emerging that Osama’s body was buried at sea less than 12 hours after his death with no opportunity for any independent corroboration of his identity, the same question of credibility has to be leveled at this latest charge. To this point, the only evidence we have been provided that Osama Bin Laden was killed yesterday are some images on tv of a burning compound and the word of the man currently occupying the oval office. But given that an informed consensus has formed around the opinion that Bin Laden died long ago due to kidney failure, will the people of America hold their President to the highest standard in presenting evidence that the person killed was actually Osama Bin Laden, and that he actually died in the way described, or will this pronouncement go unquestioned like so many other deaths in the never ending war of terror? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deenar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 If osamas' death occured in 2001, Bush would have used it to further his agenda. Like when he was fighting for re-election in 2004. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanG Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 This is Hilarious! I can assure you that if SEAL Team 6 did the job IT IS OVER and HE IS DEAD. These people have an impeccable reputation of getting the job done. TEAM 6 is the best of the best in the SEAL community. Tell one of them their full of SH___T and see what they have to say about it. These are the folks were talking about. I had the privilege of serving with TEAM 5, Although I wanted TEAM 2 out of Little creek as my family was east coast based. Gotta do what ya Gotta do. http://www.americans...seal-team-5.php Below officially they do not exist. These are the rough boys. http://www.businessi...l-team-6-2011-5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randalln Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 This is Hilarious! I can assure you that if SEAL Team 6 did the job IT IS OVER and HE IS DEAD. These people have an impeccable reputation of getting the job done. TEAM 6 is the best of the best in the SEAL community. Tell one of them their full of SH___T and see what they have to say about it. These are the folks were talking about. I had the privilege of serving with TEAM 5, Although I wanted TEAM 2 out of Little creek as my family was east coast based. Gotta do what ya Gotta do. http://www.americans...seal-team-5.php Below officially they do not exist. These are the rough boys. http://www.businessi...l-team-6-2011-5 Amen bro middile of the night crash on the way in get the target make it back out and bring pic's I am not Q/A none of them if they say thats what was there thats nuff said buy them a beer . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajskj Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Photoshop like Obamanations watching the attack was photshopped DDDDUUUHHHH! Photoshop on a moving tv screen?? Adjust the tin foil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candinar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Update: http://www.prisonplanet.com/10-facts-that-prove-the-bin-laden-fable-is-a-contrived-hoax.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleasantvalleySunday Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Update: http://www.prisonpla...rived-hoax.html Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethecloser Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Wednesday, May 4, 2011 “Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s” Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job. Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT. Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world. Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus. The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik. Read More: Go here.............http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/04/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/ This story is fishy like why would americans would want to kill other americans for political reasons This story is false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candinar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) This story is fishy like why would americans would want to kill other americans for political reasons This story is false He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT. Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world. Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus. The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I tend to believe someone with his credentials over a Dinar chatroom post with no back-up to prove anything as false. Ask the thousands sick and dying in the Gulf region from all the Corexit spraying after the BP oil "accident" who are begging for help from your Government, but they don't care...or all the first responders at 9/11 who are sick and many dead because your EPA said the air was good to breathe, the 50 plus thousand who died in Vietnam because of a lie, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident who Robert S McNamara admitted to being a lie. Problem-Reaction-Solution....they provide all 3 for you and you cheer in the streets..hmm. Look up the Georgia Guidestones and see the plan, if you want to know truth, you can only research for yourself. If osamas' death occured in 2001, Bush would have used it to further his agenda. Like when he was fighting for re-election in 2004. Sorry, your Presidents are chosen for you, not elected. (Gore had more votes but..) Again old news. Edited May 9, 2011 by Candinar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhemp Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Photoshop on a moving tv screen?? Adjust the tin foil. Maybe not Photoshop, but certainly Adobe AfterEffects. Don't dismiss this stuff! The tin foil hat thing is so overused. With what you know about the Dinar and RV and how it will benefit multiple countries.. How could you not question this and previous administrations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chape Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 This story is fishy like why would americans would want to kill other americans for political reasons This story is false Steve, I applaud your curiosity! It is NOT Americans who wish to kill each other, for Americans are some of the most loving and caring human beings I know. But it is the other Shadow Gov. that is leading us to ruin. Remember! The elites, ie: Bilderburg Group, they are real.... And they want to cull humans to a 3rd of what we are in the world today. Don't believe me? Look it up. As the previous poster has mentioned, check out the GA stones. The Rothschilds, the Bilderbergs, Rockerfellers, I will leave it to you to do your own research. AND, please do not rely on just one source. Many of us have been aware of this for many years, and now the internet has started to wake people up to their evil deeds. That is why things seem to be moving at a faster pace. It is time to wake up, and help change things for the good of this country. Do you know about the Fema Camps? Again, look it up. Best Regards, And do keep searching for the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candinar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) Steve, I applaud your curiosity! It is NOT Americans who wish to kill each other, for Americans are some of the most loving and caring human beings I know. But it is the other Shadow Gov. that is leading us to ruin. Remember! The elites, ie: Bilderburg Group, they are real.... And they want to cull humans to a 3rd of what we are in the world today. Don't believe me? Look it up. As the previous poster has mentioned, check out the GA stones. The Rothschilds, the Bilderbergs, Rockerfellers, I will leave it to you to do your own research. AND, please do not rely on just one source. Many of us have been aware of this for many years, and now the internet has started to wake people up to their evil deeds. That is why things seem to be moving at a faster pace. It is time to wake up, and help change things for the good of this country. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Very well said, good to see people awake, as David Icke says..."We are many, they are few" The good thing is,once someone researches enough to become awake...they always will be..that's why I'm not worried about the RV..when it happens I know I can wake up many more people. Edited May 9, 2011 by Candinar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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