Popular Post ronscarpa Posted February 6, 2011 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 SUMMARY: Nighthk11 Chat: (Private Site) - 2/6/2011 2-6-11 NIGHTHK11 CHAT-Highlights PLEASE IGNORE THIS IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO READ RUMORS 1. The budget is NOT needed to RV 2. The budget needed to be passed to pay for the “new dinar” ordered from De La Rue, which bears the Kurdish language 3. On 12/15, Iraq was released from Chapter 7 (sanctions related to trade) 4. If they are still deemed a threat, they will not be released from the Chapter 7 5. Monies to support the RV have already been designated ($50 bil) 6. They were supposed to RV on 12/15 in conjunction with the release of trade sanctions 7. Since they did not and Maliki attempted his “mess”, this prompted Biden to go back and activate the Barzani initiative 8. There will be NO MORE LOANS from the IMF or WB, and no inclusion to the WTEO unless they RV 10. The recent IMF loan of 4.5 billion was agreed because the RV is imminent 11. They are new loans to support the budget 12. The loans will come after RV 13. Contrary to what is printed, they did find WMD in Iraq–just not what we think. What they found was far more powerful 14. We are waiting for an announcement today. If all that has come in is true, Maliki will be on Iraqi TV with an announcement of the government, budget, and RV 15. All decisions pertaining to Chapter 7 and Iraq have been decided–just not announced 16. The budget passing is a bid deal from the perspective that it means the Kurds got another of their points handled–currency with Kurdish language 17. Parliament has ratified the budget and sent it forward to be published in the Gazette 18. If all news is correct, the Rv is next 19. Night isn’t sure why they want to borrow money since they adjusted their budget to account for the rise in oil prices 20. Word is that the government was done last Thursday 21. If dignitaries are on there way, it can mean nothing else 22. The situation in the ME lit a fire under them because they see they are NEXT 23. Borrowing from the WB and IMF always comes with strings 24. There will be a budget surplus. This is why the price of oil was raised 25. The incidents in Egypt were sparked in part to raise the price once again because a large amount of the world’s oil transits through the Suez Canal Posted by justwaitingforit at 5:14 PM 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vast Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Great info! Thanks Ron!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp49 Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Thanks Ron. I always appreciate your posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.cliff Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 best rumor I have heard yet and that's where it belongs--I want to believe but I am cautious as there are some things which do not follow other posts that have come true--tinture a falsehood with enough believeable disinformation and it becomes the truth to those who are easily led. I am not really bashing you and I hope this comes true but to me it is unbelieveable if you read it twice or more --you should post it in rumors or the very least as an opinion I am tired of seeing GO RV when we should be saying go IRAQI PEOPLE hopefully they will be the real winners of this and suck us right along with them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 ronscarpa - what are the WMD referenced found, but not identified - curious. Weapons of Mass Destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behaviorkat Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks for the rumors and specuation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinarius Rucker Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 capt.cliff, Do you own any dinar??? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkc Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks Ron I hope your rumor is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.cliff Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Yes I do own a substantial amount and I do believe that an Rv will happen but our western straight line logical thinking does not appy here --we do not think like the middle eastern mind just as it is alien thinking to the tribal mentality of them to understand the way we think they have come a long way in a short period of time and it will not change a thing---be patient ,help stop the hesteria and we will all arrive at the same point in time but it will be on their time line not ours---- any intel about the Island party local yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smee2 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Is it just me? ... or does this particular posting sound reasonable, and ... I hate to say it but ... sane? smee2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 smee2, there is a lot of truth to this post - and I'd surely like more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.cliff Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks Smee2 I would be interested also in the found WMD--why keep them secert ,it would legitimize the real reason we got involved in the whole region as Dad and Son told us- [other than the chemical warfare proven SH used on the kurds] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 capt.cliff - there is something ominous behind the reference to the wmd - more than what was expected to be found - however, given how darned long it took to get into Iraq when all this came down, SH could have moved anything he wanted - we waited on the UN far too long.........there is much more to this story and I for one would like to know as I took/taken a lot of cr_p and flak over believeing all was not right in Iraq and we needed to move on them - not that I'm stupid either an believe all the stories on bringing them to "democracy" like was touted in 'Nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypr2001 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 The reference to WMD should NOT have been put out. HOWEVER since it has been, there is ALOT more to the story. If people start talking and then everyone we "trust" to run our government wants to know WHERE they are and what it is, gets involved. That could be an issue. Right now they are safe and secured and out of reach. ALSO out of the reach of the people that want them for use against us. Not everything is a "need to know" and if thats the price our country and government pays to keep us safe, then so be it. If it is projected as an "unjustified" war to keep the people that are screaming this "safe". I am all in. Call it what you want but the people that know the TRUTH "get it". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.cliff Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Very true and I agree with much of that----and I also waivered on the fence why we were there BUT I can't draw a comparision to us being in "vietnam" to this when GB went in their the first time he detailed to the American people what our objectives were to be and why we were doing them he KEPT his word then withdrew then took all the flack for not finishing the job now that we were there-HE KEPT HIS WORD--Even though we had to go back later on --I respect this man when was the last time a politican kept his Word--It was reported that prior to us going into Iraq that they flew their airforce to Iran their mortal enemy who they had just finished I think a 20 years war[not positive on time] but this all is off the true purpose of all of us being here ---our speculation of the dinar , the RV of the iraqi dinar and helping our fellow speculators to weather the storm of anticipation with support and good information not just another "Manic Monday"--LOL! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraqi Queen Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Weapons of Mass Destruction? Yeah, right! The only weapon Saddam had was himself, his sons and his regime! President GW Bush Senior and GW Bush Jr. had to use a powerful reason to get us into Iraq. What better reason than the lie that Iraq was a threat to the U.S.? Iraq was never a threat to the U.S. They were a threat to their own people and maybe a tiny bit to Israel and the surrounding ME countries. Don't be fooled, this was pre-planned when GW Bush senior gave Saddam the green light to go into Kuwait. If all of a sudden the media decides to publicize they found WMD, you can bet that is also a cover-up. BTW, can someone guess how many other countries have WMD? I don't see us invading these countries. Our service men and women have payed a very high price, Bless them all. BTW, be prepared, because I'm sure Iran is next! This is all part of the plan. It's called OIL and the New World Order! 10 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt.cliff Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Interesting ,I hope it does not prove you right--we need to immediately focus on our own problems right here at home---I fear that there is a lot of slight of hand here at home as we are being undermined as citizens in our own country-being focused on other things and not paying attention to our own situation[bTW I am talking about both polical parties not one or the other}--it gives me a pain everywhere to maybe the world viewing us as a 3rd or 4th world country 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 capt.cliff, my comment on vietnam was that we were in 'nam to "bring democracy" to the vietnamese masses - yah, right.........when there was a whole lot more to why were there as well as there is a whole lot more to why we went into Iraq other than what the mainstream media tries to feed us - that's my point The reference to WMD should NOT have been put out. HOWEVER since it has been, there is ALOT more to the story. If people start talking and then everyone we "trust" to run our government wants to know WHERE they are and what it is, gets involved. That could be an issue. Right now they are safe and secured and out of reach. ALSO out of the reach of the people that want them for use against us. Not everything is a "need to know" and if thats the price our country and government pays to keep us safe, then so be it. If it is projected as an "unjustified" war to keep the people that are screaming this "safe". I am all in. Call it what you want but the people that know the TRUTH "get it". hypr2001 - and exactly what do you know about the WMD? And why shouldn't the reference be there - not that I believe that I need to know EVERYTHING that goes on - I do believe in protecting our president when he's gone underground etc. - I just don't get your cryptic message - particularly "......WHERE they are and what it is, gets involved. Right now they are safe & secured & out of reach" What the heck are you trying to say? This smacks of CIA type stuff and I'm not sure you're CIA.........or ? I don't know who you are or what you know - so I take your response with a grain of salt - go ahead - flame away - take your best shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerpager Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Great Post !!! Jump out there RV !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robnhood Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Very positive, let's hope some of this theory plays out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Is it just me? ... or does this particular posting sound reasonable, and ... I hate to say it but ... sane? smee2 Yes Smee, Sane, I totally agree, there is no other reason holding back the RV except having to pay Kuwait back 5% of the money incurred from Iraq's oil sales for EVER. Sanction 1956, I feel there are still some negotiations going on in respect to the length of time Iraq has to pay this debt. b. The anticipated revenue that the Federal Government will receive from the oil production of the Kurdistan Region during the coming five years from 2010 to 2014 will be: $2.75 billion (2010), $8.23 billion (2011), $12.45 billion (2012), $18.27 billion (2013), and $25.62 billion (2014). The total cost compensation of the companies contracted in the Region for the same period will be: $1.4 billion (2010), $0.9 billion (2011), $1.05 (2012), $1.2 (2013), and $1.4 (2014). This illustrates that the Federal Government (Ministry of Finance) will receive in total more than $67 billion as net revenue from the oil produced by companies contracted in the Region in the coming five years. In return, less than $6 billion in costs will be paid to these companies. c. By 2015 the total revenue will be more than $27 billion per year, with a cost compensation of $1.5 billion per year to the companies involved. http://www.krg.org/articles/detail.asp?anr=33405&lngnr=12 And that is just the Kurdistan region. 5% of 67,000,000,000 is a whole lotta money for eternity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeze101 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I was there during the time WMD stuff in question was found. Not righ there, but close. I don't know particulars, just know for a fact they found something that was not to be disclosed. I've heard rumors on what it was but I'm not certain. Supposedly, as was stated, something much worse than we (the public) expected, and people are probably better off not knowing such a thing exists. Take it for what it's worth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Hey, what happened to #9? Was that something about Donald Trump's hair and you decided to leave it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolin Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Yeah, why does Night's post go from #8 to #10? Where is #9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANE Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Seven ate nine....It's obvious! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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