DizzyDinar Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 After being overjoyed (and a bit cautious... this is Iraq) from the news yesterday, I stumbled upon this article this morning... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101108/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq_7;_ylt=A0wNcnZM7tdMuxABhAH5SpZ4 Could someone provide their thoughts/insight? Thanks! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbann Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Well it appears that these guys still cannot put their differences aside for the good of the people. I do not believe that we will see an RV until there is a government seated and working. Apparently there were no provisions put in place for a tie vote or run off election?? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoh1965 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 These guys are mess up in the head BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Being from Associated Press and Yahoo, this sucks!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrref Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 "]WHEN ARE WE GOING TO LEARN, THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH IRAQ, DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT YOU READ OR HEAR..NOT UNTIL ITS ETCHED IN STONE. [/b] 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard57 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Even the sources cited can be given smoke and mirrors. Don't get to wound up over this just yet. We have a long way to go til the end of the week. Maynard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM WEASEL!!! Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Even the sources cited can be given smoke and mirrors. Don't get to wound up over this just yet. We have a long way to go til the end of the week. Maynard Aint it the truth....aint it the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dweave69 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 same article on Fox News site. Come on guys. Go RV now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Mtn. Dinar Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 These guys are mess up in the head BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Probably got their head dress wrapped too tight! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sladrian Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Nothing to worry about, we are in good shape... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger-write Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Knock-knock Whose there? Dinar Dinar who? Your dinnar is going to get cold unless you HURRY UP AND FORM YOUR &&$:*^%# GOVERNMENT!!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circlewood Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I'm just afraid that Thursday is going to prove to be too far off to keep this thing sticking together till then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibo Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 sladrian, thanks for your confidence! We all need it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Well, perhaps Saddam did have it right. They cant/wont handle democracy. Perhaps a tyrannous dictator is all they understand...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdrtkm Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Well, perhaps Saddam did have it right. They cant/wont handle democracy. Perhaps a tyrannous dictator is all they understand...... Very true, and thee guys can hold a grudge also. I am afriad that nither will back down until one of them drives past a VBIED. I think they are going to have to have another election to settle this and that in itself could take months. If they get busy on it know that is. It's OK people it is Iraq we all know that. It has always been a long term investment, we all know that also. Take the good with the bad, and don't get too high or too low. It will happen whenever it happens and on day we can all look back and tell our grandkids the story of IQD when they ask " Grandpa where did all the money for my college come from?" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karen Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 sad to say, but i expected to see this type of article today. someday it has to come together....still am hopefull for a goi formation this week. we WAIT some more.....nothing new. i really cannot get excited just yet.. plus even if goi forms this week we still have no idea when the rv/ri will happen. i know everyone is saying that goi= rv but i must remain cautiously optomistic and so should we all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemanihi Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I have to agree with Karen. How many times have we been down this road. History of the last five years has made me overcautious. I too expected to see news like this. I don't worry about whether this will happen or when. I know it will happen and the when is up to God. I feel for the Iraqi people though. Once again, patience is a virtue. Don't anyone let this ruin your day. Live life today! The RV will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashdinar Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 This is Iraq. Some say it is already done. News says it is not. What can one believe?? I believe we will have an RV someday. I just hope it is what most say it will be. Everything has been wrong up to now with this investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrocks85 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 they were given 3 days to meet so they will take the 3 days that simple imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmawhite Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Even the sources cited can be given smoke and mirrors. Don't get to wound up over this just yet. We have a long way to go til the end of the week. Maynard I was wondering the same thing because the meeting for tomorrow is being moved to Baghdad. Could today be smoke and a formal announcement tomorrow in the capital? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 After being overjoyed (and a bit cautious... this is Iraq) from the news yesterday, I stumbled upon this article this morning... http://news.yahoo.co...tdMuxABhAH5SpZ4 Could someone provide their thoughts/insight? Thanks! NEW GOV STILL FAR>>>>>>>>>>AWAY!!!!!!!!!* WHO'D a Thought That's par for the course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyDinar Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) Who'd a thought is right Mongo... Thanks for the insight/opinions everyone! A couple more interesting articles... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-08/iraq-leaders-meet-in-erbil-in-bid-to-break-deadlock-over-new-government.html In typical Iraq fashion... "Once a speaker and deputies are elected, the constitution gives lawmakers 30 days to elect a president. The new president then has 15 days to ask the largest bloc in parliament to choose a prime minister, who has 30 days to form a Cabinet."....... I can see this lasting awhile longer, especially if they push these timelines to the max (which they have NEVER done in the past, right?). Another article... this time with Hilldog speaking her mind (or not)... Clinton: US hopes Iraq government deal is close (AP) – 8 hours ago MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillarious Rodham Clinton said Monday the U.S. hopes Iraq is finally close to forming a new government — eight months after elections. Speaking in Australia, Clinton would not confirm reports that the political factions in Iraq have reached a deal. She said she cannot comment until Iraq announces an agreement. But Clinton added that the U.S. hopes Iraq's political factions are near the end of their haggling. She said the U.S. wants Iraq's political blocs to form an inclusive government that represents all interests. The leaders of the main political factions planned to meet later Monday amid signs they are close to breaking the political deadlock. The two men vying for prime minister — incumbent Nouri al-Maliki and his rival Ayad Allawi — both plan to attend, officials from their respective parties said. It would be the first such face-to-face meeting of the bloc leaders since the March 7 polls. Allawi's Sunni-backed Iraqiya coalition won 91 seats in the elections — two more than al-Maliki's State of Law. But neither bloc secured an outright majority, which has led to a period to intense political negotiations as both groups try to cobble together enough support to head a new government. Recently, political momentum has swung in al-Maliki's direction. Edited November 8, 2010 by DizzyDinar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicovetter71 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Nothing to worry about, we are in good shape... Since you said it wasn't going to go past Monday....curious at to why you say we are in good shape? It's Monday....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlopus Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 IMO, this will go to at least the 15th of the month. As I posted a couple days ago, they're waiting for the knuckle heads to come back from the Hajj. They are going to drag their heals up until Eid Al-Adha....(16-20 NOV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMWman Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Who'd a thought is right Mongo... Thanks for the insight/opinions everyone! A couple more interesting articles... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-08/iraq-leaders-meet-in-erbil-in-bid-to-break-deadlock-over-new-government.html In typical Iraq fashion... "Once a speaker and deputies are elected, the constitution gives lawmakers 30 days to elect a president. The new president then has 15 days to ask the largest bloc in parliament to choose a prime minister, who has 30 days to form a Cabinet."....... I can see this lasting awhile longer, especially if they push these timelines to the max (which they have NEVER done in the past, right?). Another article... this time with Hilldog speaking her mind (or not)... Clinton: US hopes Iraq government deal is close (AP) – 8 hours ago MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillarious Rodham Clinton said Monday the U.S. hopes Iraq is finally close to forming a new government — eight months after elections. Speaking in Australia, Clinton would not confirm reports that the political factions in Iraq have reached a deal. She said she cannot comment until Iraq announces an agreement. But Clinton added that the U.S. hopes Iraq's political factions are near the end of their haggling. She said the U.S. wants Iraq's political blocs to form an inclusive government that represents all interests. The leaders of the main political factions planned to meet later Monday amid signs they are close to breaking the political deadlock. The two men vying for prime minister — incumbent Nouri al-Maliki and his rival Ayad Allawi — both plan to attend, officials from their respective parties said. It would be the first such face-to-face meeting of the bloc leaders since the March 7 polls. Allawi's Sunni-backed Iraqiya coalition won 91 seats in the elections — two more than al-Maliki's State of Law. But neither bloc secured an outright majority, which has led to a period to intense political negotiations as both groups try to cobble together enough support to head a new government. Recently, political momentum has swung in al-Maliki's direction. DizzyDinar, Thank you for posting this article. I have learned to read very carefully what a politician says. They say things without saying it. I know, sounds weird but it's the Satanic, uhhh, I mean political way of saying things. They can always come back and say you misinterpreted what I said. Any ways, what I see here is the POSSIBILITY that what Hillarious said, without saying it is this: She can't say anything until Iraq announces an agreement (emphasis above added by me), indicating the agreement is done and only waiting on the announcement. Notice she didn't say "until they come to an agreement." Read between the lines, so to speak. My personal opinion, and ONLY MY OPINION, is that this has been orchestrated by the IMF from the beginning. They gave guidelines and dates that the Iraqi's were to follow and if one of them didn't play their assigned role, they were warned. If they didn't comply after the warning then they would not be breathing for much longer. I believe it is playing out the way the IMF wants. And the IMF will make a boat load off of this deal, as they always do. It's their system and they are very good at what they do. Smart, but evil. Just like their daddy. But, The One True Living God is smarter, wiser and stronger. Not to mention in control of EVERYTHING. BMWman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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