BMWman

PartyTime, Thanks for your response. I agree in part. You are missing the forming document of the united States of America, the Articles of Confederation. This is the document that formed the original 13 States into the united States of America. The title of this document says it all, "The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union". The union is perpetual. Period. Legally there is no getting around this. And no, the Articles were NOT done away with by the Constitution. The Constitution did nothing more than create the United States. The United States is the Federal system domiciled in the 10 square miles of the District of Columbia. It's purpose was to, according to the Preamble to the Constitution for the united States of America, form a MORE PERFECT UNION. It did NOT form a NEW union. Nowhere is there a legal document repealing the Articles of Confederation. So, it is the Articles of Confederation that legally prevent a State from seceding. You are correct that the Republic was 'put on hold' when the southern States representatives walked out of Congress on March 27th, 1861. You are 100% correct that the current "states" are nothing more than Administrative arms of the corporate United States, which according to USC 28, Section 3002 is a Federal corporation. I can prove this in Alabama, that the STATE OF ALABAMA is a Federal territory that is 'laid over top of' the Alabama State's land area. I believe that the other original States have had the same thing happen. I can pinpoint EXACTLY when that happened to the 11 southern States that were in rebellion. It was called the Reconstruction Acts along with the 14th Amendment, all occurring in 1867. That was the takeover of those 11 original States by the US Federal United States. In my opinion, there are only 34 States in the united States of America. Kansas was the last State to join properly by the original Congress' vote. In my opinion, since the original Republic ceased to be operational after 3/27/1861, all 'states' who joined after that are simply Federal territories that they call 'States'. None of them are the Sovereign States of the Union. I am impressed that you knew that the 'states' now are possessions of the corporate US. Well done, sir. Well done. Also, along these lines, are you aware that a US citizen is a corporate US created slave and that State Citizens are the only freemen? For more go to http://www.state-citizen.org/. GREAT stuff on that site. Very glad to hear of someone else who sees the truth! Blessings on you and yours, PartyTime.

staunch, Some people have the mental capability to understand simple things, some don't.

RVPleaseToday, I saw an article a long time ago where the CBI stated that they were going to be making the IQD a hard currency. So, if that is true, than most of the currency that is outside of Iraq will, after 'cash in', stay at the treasury of the different countries as foreign reserves to assist in the backing of their own currency. I don't know for sure, but I do recall that article. An RV will help the Iraqi citizen. Yes, a Dinar is a Dinar inside Iraq but after an RV its purchasing power would increase, benefiting the Iraqi by allowing them to purchase more with the same # of Dinar, effectively increasing their 'wealth'. Additionally, I believe the vast majority of the IQD is in-country and not out of it. So, in the grand scheme of things, pulling IQD off the streets in Iraq (if they have been doing that) is the most effective, IMHO. Thanks.

Danneedsrvnow, Actually, SteveI never said it would RV on or by the 10th. That was a rumor from the 'Mystery Lady' or whatever she calls herself. I am a member of both sites. Someone brought that 'Mystery Lady' info to the other site and clearly labeled what it was. So, I am assuming that you were not aware of the fact that you're actually spreading rumors and lies. I know you would never do that on purpose Dan. Thought I would let everyone know so that it can get cleared up and truth can prevail, as it should. Right everyone?

What were you trying to say? Maybe if you used the English language it would help us understand. BMWman

deenar, Seriously? You are bashing keepmwlknfny because he said he had some intel from a contact? He stood by that intel for MONTHS. He gave one date. It didn't come about, but he didn't whine about it or make excuses. He tried to help us out with some data he had. He hasn't come on here and predicted an RV every weekend or immaturely pumped everyone up with feel good only nonsense. He tries to keep everyone, including himself, level headed about this investment. And you bash him. What do you bring to the table? Knocking someone for bringing to the forum the info he had? You don't bring anything worthwhile then, do you? And keepmwlknfny didn't make a fool of himself for bringing that info to the forum. You just made a fool of yourself for the childish crap you just posted. BMWman

Mmmmmmm. BMW! BMWman

SOI, I didn't know this. I will be praying for you, my friend. In His love ... BMWman

SOI, What's your personal carry pistol? I am looking at getting a Springfield XD Sub Compact Pistol (.40 S&W). My home protection pistol is a Para Ordnance P16-40. I love the way it shoots. BMWman

Lori Mc, Welcome aboard. Thanks for the encouraging words. Just one note though. I believe you have misinterpreted Revelation 17. God says 'And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH' in Revelation 17:5. Then God tells you who "she" is. It's not a country, it's a city: "And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth." The answer to "who" that great city is that reigns over kings, is spelled out in Daniel 2 in Nebuchadnezzar's dream. And the answer to who, exactly, that is, is rather disturbing for the average person. Make that, VERY disturbing. BMWman

Sounds like something that tells the Almighty God that He can go take a flying leap and that He is not in control; you are. I would have to disagree with your post. Just my opinion. And opinions are like butt holes - everybody has one and they all stink. BMWman

ThankAVet, Very well said. Solutions, kudos to you also. If it's a liability issue, why can't the mods listen to the cc and make the decision to remove it or not? They have that authority in the chat and rumors sections, where there would be the same liability for "originating on this site", as they termed it. Why do they not have this same authority with the posting of a cc? The excuses/reasons given by the mods just do not make any logical sense. There is no consistency in them. If there was consistency, then Adam would need to review EVERYTHING posted before it could be allowed on the site; every single post. Again, I see through the inconsistency, warped logic and bs, and I know others have as well. I've posted it before; if you are going to do something, do it across the board and logically. It's Adam' s site and he can do what he wants. But I will say this: If zzzzzzzzz and SteveI, etc. start another site, I will be there and never visit this site again. They brought the VAST MAJORITY of data anyways, IMHO. I did not join the VIP here because I didn't feel it was worth it. But I will pay to help zzzzzzzzz, SteveI, et al start a new site, if they so desire. Poorly done Adam, poorly done. BMWman

35foxtrot, Welcome to the site. I see you joined a long time ago but have just now posted. Good to have your contribution on this and I look forward to hearing more from you. I have to agree with you about Okie. A bunch of claims are made and never backed up. After a little while you have to realize: "you will know them by their fruits." I especially like the old 'I have pics of lower denoms but don't know how to post them' bit. Yeh. Like you couldn't send them to someone elses phone so they can post them or have someone walk you through it. It's really easy. Please people. Let's call black, black. And call white, white. BMWman

financeminister, Reread his post. He never said he was selling his Dinar and/or quitting the investment. He said he would be back after Thanksgiving. Failed reading comprehension in school, right? Don't accuse someone of something they didn't say ... It will come back on you: Gal 6:7; Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. And uncs, take a break and relax man. Gather your thoughts and come back when you are ready. We'll be here to welcome you back! BMWman

hopefullbk, You are welcome. It's always good to discuss something with someone who is willing to learn. And wbg52 is someone I now have a lot of respect for. I always try to be open to gain knowledge from anyone. Believe me, I have been taught a lot by 18 month old children and by 90 year olds. Lessons in life are all around us if we will but ask God to teach us. As I have done before, I would recommend 'The Creature From Jekyll Island' by G. Edward Griffin. His website is: www.gedwardgriffin.com. That's a good start. After that you could read 'Credit . . . Is . . . Debt . . . Is $lavery ' by Bruce G. McCarthy. You can find it here: http://home.earthlink.net/~cadman777/credit_debt_slavery.htm. There is a lot of info out there to read. I have a reading list a mile long that I want to get to...if I just didn't have to work everyday ... BMWman

wgb52, You rock, man!!!! Seriously. Do you know how many of the people that I have recommended that book to have actually read it? VERY FEW. You show a lot of class and character by going toward the truth. Putting aside what you have been taught is 'correct' and digging to find what is really going on. I commend you sir! Most people are too damn lazy to do some research on their own. I have had a very spiritually challenging day and you have encouraged me a lot. Thank you, and may God bless you. BMWman commtrd, I agree 100%. The Creature is a great read. BMWman

Roger that one Viper! God give Steve three angels to travel with him at all times, to protect and guide him. In Jesus' name, amen. BMWman

RichNick123, If the Dinar is backed by Dollars (amount doesn't matter), and the Dollar is a fiat currency, then what backs the Dinar? Nothing. Because the Dollar is nothing (fiat). You can't back something (IQD) with something (USD) that is backed by nothing. It is pegged to the Dollar now only because the Dollar is currently the world's "standard currency". For a currency NOT to be fiat it doesn't just have to be backed by something, it needs to be convertible. ie, We used to have silver certificates. You could take that silver certificate to the bank and ask for the silver and they would legally have to give it to you. The certificate simply represented the silver that was stored somewhere and you could convert it at anytime. It was easier to carry than the actual silver. That's the only good reason to have "paper money"; easier to carry/use. The reason that Iraq's currency's value hasn't moved is because the IMF has determined it to be so. The IMF pegged it there and, I believe, will soon peg it at a much higher value! All currencies in the world right now are fiat, since the Swiss pulled the Franc off of the gold standard in 2000. That was the last hope but, that is now gone too. BMWman

GO RV!!, Thanks for the info. I never had any experience at the data center in the wire transfer arena. Too busy making sure each check sorting job got through to the Fed so that I kept my job! BMWman

blueskygal, Good post. Just wanted to let you know that in 2000 the Swiss Franc was officially pulled off the gold standard. That year marked the end of ANY gold backed currency in the world, that i know about. 1 May, 2000 was the day it officially occurred, I believe. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/swiss-alter-gold-standard-for-franc BMWman

Solutions, Yes, my experience was in the checks end of things. I was pointing out how there is a separate wholesale side of things that people only on the retail end don't see and usually don't know about. The wire transfer end would run across the same wholesale market system but would obviously be different software that instigated the funds movement. I do not know, specifically, how the wire transfer software system works. Most often the business cut-off is at 2PM and all transactions after that are processed the next business day. The reason for that is internal accounting and auditing at the banks though, not because of a systems limitation. A bank HAS to have the books balance each day. So they use 2PM as the cut-off time so they can start balancing the books and have them zeroed out by midnight. Checks are gathered together at exactly 2PM at each branch, bagged, and either flown or driven to the data processing center. It may be different now on how the checks are transported but this was true in the mid nineties when I was at the data processing center. Second shift (4-midnight) at the banks' data processing center is wide open freakin' throttle to make it happen. If there is ANY discrepancy anywhere in an account, they have to research it to solve it before midnight or run an exception. This is not fun and is bad news for the bank. It's really amazing to see what goes on. Vast majority of discrepancies were tellers keying things in incorrectly. $50.10 deposit instead of $501.00 deposit. Stuff like that. Anyways, the 2PM cut-off is for internal accounting purposes only, as far as I know. BMWman uncs, Yes, IF (a BIG IF) the rate is $5.27 on the wholesale market then: They would sell you Dinar at that rate plus the spread that they decide to charge (ie $5.35). This means they would make $0.08 per Dinar on the transaction in this example. If they were buying Dinar from you (you were cashing in), they would pay you the wholesale rate minus the spread that they decide to charge (ie $5.19). Again, this means they would make $0.08 per Dinar on the transaction in this example. Just hypothetical numbers everyone to show the way it works. BMWman

GO RV!!, It's all good. Just sharing info/data. The more we share the more we learn. No one person knows it all but if we all share what we know ... we all learn a lot! God Bless my friend! BMWman

Wholesale only. You would have to be a licensed bank by the US Treasury/Federal Reserve (BofA, Wells Fargo, Regions, BB&T, etc.) and set up in the system. But it would be the bank buying it, not the person. The Fed has rules as to how this is done and they control everything very tightly. So, no. No men could cash in. Only banks buying and selling on the wholesale market. A bank would only buy enough to prepare for expected cash-in, or be able to buy quickly from another bank on the wholesale market to cover someone cashing in at the teller (when that time comes). Again, I'm not saying it's true or false. Just saying there is a wholesale, bank to bank, system that we do not have access to. Think about banks clearing (processing) checks every night. They give the jobs to the Fed each night with the name (routing #) of the banks and total of how much each owes to them. The Fed then processes that and electronically "moves" the funds appropriately between the banks over this wholesale system (bank to bank). I worked in this area of a bank for about 4 years. Believe me, if something holds up that job from getting to the Fed at the nightly deadline (was 1AM when i was there) then the bank misses out on it's interest payment on those funds for the day. It's a lot of money and heads would roll (figuratively) if something kept the deadline from being met. Been there, done that. BMWman

GO RV!!, Not bashing here, just stating some info that has been posted many, many times. 1) Who is in charge of "insider trading" policing? The SEC. 2) Are currencies an SEC controlled instrument? No. As far as I know, no one has ever been convicted of insider trading with currencies. Insider trading is only for SEC controlled instruments (like stocks). Currencies are NOT controlled in any manner by the SEC. Can you imagine the SEC trying to track all currency transactions like they do all stock transactions? Again, a little common sense and thinking things through will go a long ways. BMWman

pluMmet, WW Banking system is the 'World Wide Banking System'. The idea of this rumor is that there are two separate systems; basically a wholesale (bank to bank) system and a retail system. The IQD is not available on the retail system yet, but the rumor is that it has started to trade on the wholesale system @ the mentioned rate. Now, I don't personally know if this is true or not but, with my study of the monetary system over the last 15 or so years, I can say this is a distinct POSSIBILITY. Not fact, but possible. There is a completely different wholesale (bank to bank) world that the general public never sees or hears about. Not confirming or denying the rumor, just my 2 cents. BMWman